I'm an active campaign staffer for Gary Johnson's presidential race. I intend to remain anonymous. Ask me anything.
>>74675552
Who's Gary johnson? Is that some sort of sex term the kids are using nowadays?
>>74675552
how does it feel to work for the Ross Perot of this generation
>>74675632
Gary Johnson was the two term governor of New Mexico. He's currently running for the LP nomination for President.
>>74675657
Actually pretty inspiring. He's a down to earth guy, more than you'd expect.
>>74675552
Why do you want open borders?
>>74675552
Will Gary Johnson hop on the Trump train?
>>74675775
Because our economy can directly benefit from open immigration. It's illogical to keep hard working people from coming to work. Business benefits from it.
>>74675552
Johnson believes in Open Borders. He is anathema to the American Nation State. Anyone who supports that idiot is either a shill, or criminally ignorant.
>>74675552
Screw him, he stole the spotlight from ron paul and expects people to support him. I've never liked him and I do not consider him a true libertarian. We finally have the chance to have a redpilled president; and now you globalist koch cock suckers think you can steal it.
Laughable!
>>74675973
Will Donald Trump chill out with the openly statist policies?
>>74676251
double edged sword there, you get hard workers and you also get scum coming over
>>74676251
if you hate america so much then fucking get out. cuck traitors will be gassed in the maga-camps.
>>74675552
Why are you a leftist enabling anarchist? People like you are partly responsible for the insanity of the left go to hell.
>>74676389
Governor Johnson actually dropped out of the Republican nomination in '12 to defer to Dr. Paul, and only pushed his campaign in the LP when the Republican's screwed Dr. Paul at the RNC.
>>74676251
Translation, "being a corporate slave is good"
>>74675552
What was it like to join the Communist party?
>>74676251
>Business benefits from it
And I suffer from increased crime rates and lowered educational standards. But I forgot, I should just make more money so I can live away from them. Then America can truly be like Brazil, with walled off favelas and everything.
>>74675552
DUDE WEED LMAO?
>>74676475
There's definitely negative people that come over. I just don't think that blocking out the good is ok just to prevent that. Punishing the whole class for a few student's bad behavior is foolish.
Fucking kike shill sold out the party to the neocohens to spoil Trumps campaign, off yourself you faggot
>>74675552
>>74675775
>>74676251
>>74675973
Austin Petersen is the better option between him and Johnson, Johnson is too liberal for my tastes.
>>74676393
What is the logical response to the civilizational suicide of the left? I'm all ears for genuine solutions not anarchist/libertarian nonsense.
>>74676595
The Socialist Party is that way >>>>>
>>74676693
>taco niggers
>people
damn they got to you good.
This is fake but hell I'll bite. I'm pretty Libertarian but I'm voting for Trump.
One thing, why is Gary seemingly so pro-immigration? Not even being a "racist xD" but Libertarianism will never work if we allow mass amounts of immigration. Brown people love voting Democrat.
DUDE
>>74675552
Trump or civil war.
>>74675552
Why did he pick a blatantly Anti-Gun VP?
>>74676731
AP's behavior on social media and lack of popular media recognition will put the LP back to the vote numbers it was at in '08.
>>74675552
Yeah, Gary Johnson is a poser. He's an open borders guy and admitted he would force more homo cake issues via the government.
I know many Sanders supporters who would be willing to "settle" for a libertarian such as Johnson. What do you think of this? Is it odd that they'd go from socialism to libertarianism like that?
>>74676693
No one says immigration will completely stop. No one says even low income workers wouldn't be allowed in, albeit on work visas and not handed citizenship as soon as they birth a child on our soil.
>Punishing the whole class for a few student's bad behavior is foolish
And making over simplified comparisons is foolish as well. These people are culturally different, visually distinct, and often don't speak English. An increase in "diversity" outside of some ridiculous talking point at a college class, is by almost every metric a decrease in quality of life for everyone.
Is Gary Johnson high all the time as he seems?
>>74676251
How do you reconcile open immigration with our current welfare system?
>>74675552
Whats the story with MacAffee?
Is he like the "trump" of the libertarian party?
>>74676899
Bill Welds facebook page actually addressed this in a post today. Go check it out!
>>74675552
Where are you going to hide when my crew hunts down libertarians for handing the election to Hillary by taking votes from Republicans like they did during the Senate election in Virginia?
>>74676957
Not at all. One thing I've found with many Sanders and Trump supporters is that they don't support them for polices, but for the fact that seem to be against the establishment. Johnson can appeal to that.
>>74677117
In all formally conducted polls, Johnson takes more votes from Clinton than Trump friend.
>>74677032
Dramatic reductions in our current welfare system as well as directly addressing the automatic increase in mandatory spending for it each fiscal year would go a long way.
>>74677188
Yeah, it's a real coin flip for voters to choose between a Clinton and Johnson
>>74677035
John McAfee is an interesting character. I actually like the man, he's got some real merit to how he does things. But he's not my first choice.
>>74676693
So it's okay to force Jews to bake gay Nazi cakes because a few whiny leftests cried when a religious couple refused to bake for a gay wedding but it's okay to just let loose the poor, undereducated, unskilled workers to come to our nation, who will eventually vote for "gimmedats" as citizens, if not their children who will be granted citizenship by virtue of being born here.
This isn't the 20th century. We don't need as human labor now that robots can think for themselves and work with little human interaction. Where are these underemployed people supposed to do to provide for themselves and their families? They will vote for more welfare if they can't find jobs. They will vote for education subsidize because they can't afford higher education. These people, like most people in the United States, citizen or permanent resident, can not afford to accumulate capital because of immediate expenses. They don't have the money to not only pay the bills and feed their children and "pick themselves from their bootstraps" to start that business, invest in financial markets, or go attend higher education.
>>74677243
obviously you know that will never happen though. I'm libertarian, I voted for ron paul in 2012. It's not like my vote matters much here in Minnesota but I'll be voting trump come election time.
Unlike 2012, will Gary Johnson be able to crack 1% in November 2016?
>>74677663
I believe so, should he get his choice of VP. Unfortunately the LP doesn't let their nominee pick his own, they need to also be selected by delegates. Weld can bring a lot to the table, but there's some pushback on him.
>>74677822
What's the Libertarian party doing for House and Senate elections, as well as State legislative elections?
Surely y'all know that Johnson has a snowball's chance in hell even this year, but smaller parties could pick up seats in Congress and in States. And yet I so rarely hear anything about libertarian candidates there.
>Gary Johnson
Who?
>>74675552
I wanted McAfee. Why didn't he win?
Why don't you libertarians get that less government and less welfare is never gonna happen especially when more jobs are doomed to be replaced by AI and machines?
>>74675552
Um...two white males on the same ticket? Hello, it's 2016!
>>74677965
The LP regularly fields candidates for these positions. They actually hold some state level positions. But anything federal is a horribly uphill battle for ballot access. In PA for example, someone running for a congressional district as an R or D needs 500 signatures from registered voters to appear on the ballot. Any third party or independent needs 3500. All of this needs to happen in a short amount of time. Most candidates don't have the manpower or resources to pull that off, plus the signatures are typically challenged in court.
>>74678297
>CURRENT YEAR
>>74678093
John McAfee still has a fair chance. Our nomination is next week!
>>74675552
Why do you want to divide the republican vote and get Hillary the nomination? Do you want a war with Russia? Do you want freedoms removed?
>>74678307
Do you know anything about Jason Lewis who is running for congress here in Minnesota? He used to be a radio host for a number of years and I would listen to him everyday. He is a libertarian but he's running for the republican spot
Who?
>>74675552
Why are you faggots trying to ruin America by helping Hillary get elected?
>>74678535
I don't, but I wish him the best!
>>74678454
>>74678689
In formal polling, Johnson takes more votes from Clinton than Trump!
>>74677188
Libertarians actually believe polls!
Protip: These polls that put Gary Johnson at 11% is only a sign of the dissatisfaction of the candidates in both parties and it is a way for these voters to signal that dissatisfaction. This does not mean that (a) these voters would actually go out and vote for Gary Johnson or (b) these people wouldn't suck it up and vote for either Trump or Clinton to vote against the greater evil. It would make more sense to predict on voting behavior based on demographics: race/ethnicity/, religious affiliation/lack thereof, and, more important, socioeconomic status.
Take Kansas for example. Trump was set to win Kansas but he lost ever county but one.
According to our final polls-plus forecast, Donald Trump had a 51% chance of winning the Kansas caucuses.
http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-2016/primary-forecast/kansas-republican/
Trafalgar Group (R) | 3/2 - 3/3 | Trump +6
Fort Hays St. University | 2/19 | Trump +12
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/ks/kansas_republican_presidential_caucus-4322.html
Final Results
Cruz +24.9
Cruz: 48.2
Trump: 23.3
Rubio: 16.7
Kasich: 10.7
Carson: 0.7
Kansas has a White Evangelical majority, is economically tied to agricultural, and, despite the free market rhetoric, is dependent on government subsidies to sustain the agricultural industry, and has a large population reliant on social security and medicaid. Rick Santorum won in the 2012 Republican presidential primary election. He was the Christian candidate who understood the hardships of rural life and appealed to the needs of the elderly.
United States presidential election in Kansas, 2012
Republican caucuses
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election_in_Kansas,_2012#Republican_caucuses
Rick Santorum: 15,290 votes (51.2%)
Mitt Romney: 6,250 votes (20.9%)
Look, the whole endgame of uniting the human race under one banner and creed is fine and all but we are not at a point in history to FORCE globalism.
The libertarian, by definition, believes in free-market economics, private property, national independence and the absence of spoliation from governments or foreign entities.
Those who favor massive immigration don't support private property since they don't recognize the US territory as the property of the American people.
AMERICA. FIRST.
>>74678711
He "quit" while on the air. It was obviously staged but it was pretty funny. He was the only conservative radio host I listened to, I'm still pissed that he quit.
I haven't looked it up before but actually it looks like the incumbent republican chose not to run this year, so it looks like he might actually have a shot. If he wins keep an eye out for this guy!
>>74675552
Gary Johnson is a weed smoking hippie degenerate. If I'm voting third party it's not going to be them.
On his issues page, Gary Johnson claims he is going to balance America's awful budget without increasing tax, but he doesn't say where the money is coming from. If tax is going to be lowered (as he indicates on that page) where is the money coming from?
Also, if businesses are pretty much completely free, won't healthcare get even more expensive? With so many Americans lacking coverage (not just dindus) won't this wind up being really bad for a lot of people? I'm sure that free healthcare for the poor will be up on the chopping block, and with so little regulation, surely companies will scale back on offering expensive healthcare with their jobs.
This whole thing just seems to hinge on the hope that everyone left to their own devices will be fair and work to the betterment of the country.
>>74679372
I'm sure the Green Party could your help to try to catch up in ballot access!
>>74675773
You don't need a trip. This board has IDs.
What is morale like? I can't imagine it is fun to run in a race that you are guaranteed to not win, essentially throwing away campaign money.
>>74676639
She could have been really cute if she lost all that weight.
Ugh feminism is an enabling device for fat people to cling on to to justify their own bad habits.
>>74679484
Gary's tax plan involves removing income tax and placing a federal consumption tax on goods. This not only grants people freedom to spend their money as they see fit without it being taken from them, but it's likely to bring in more revenue than less.
A competitive job market works both ways. A company needs to offer appealing incentives for good workers to join and stay with them. Those who don't will lose the better workers.
>>74679579
It's been a long time since I posted here. Once long ago I shitposted for Paul.
Everyone's actually extremely positive. Any LP campaign's core job besides winning is raising awareness for the party and growing it as much as possible for next election. We've gotten more positive press prenomination this round than pretty much every other LP election combined.
Also, the idea that a lot of Americans are libertarians is false. Sure, Americans, both on the left and right, are fed up with the bloated federal government. But don't make the mistake to believe that a smaller, more efficient federal government is the same as a libertarian government. Further, don't think that dissatisfaction with the federal government is exclusively libertarian.
Most people do want government programs slashed but this is usually limited to the bare minimum. So, yes, entitlement programs should be reformed and able bodied workers should be forced to find work, attend higher education, or volunteer while on welfare but completely eliminating welfare, whether at the federal or, and this is important, at the state level. You see, a lot people are "libertarian" when it comes to the federal government but there is a significant acceptance of programs policies what libertarians consider anti-free market. Federal taxes are bad, state taxes are alright if they go to think I like: roads, agricultural subsidies, higher education grants, social security, etc.
The Libertarian Party will certainly get more votes this year. I'm guessing a solid 2% if not 3%. But these votes will all in likelihood be protest votes and not a vote for the free market, taxes are theft, minarchist ideology.
>>74679579
Like Cruz, Kasich, and Bernie - anyone still in the nomination or presidential race despite having the math clearly against them is in it to pocket campaign donations.
Up until 1989 you couldn't do that. The Ethics Reform Act covers personal usage.
>>74676251
Businesses benefit & work force get's anally raped.
Yes goy, let's open up those borders.
>>74679863
That's fair, but with open borders they are surely going to just hire much cheaper foreigners who are willing to work for a wage that wouldn't be comfortably livable for an American.
>>74680055
Bernie is almost broke at this point. His campaign has 6 million left.
>>74680100
Exactly. Libertarianism is an anti-white ideology. It is the ideology of the globalist elite. It is in favour of opening up borders and letting low-wage shitskins in that can be easily exploited. It is in favour of taking away the labor rights and labor protections of honest, hardworking white folks, fucking them over for life, only to make more profits for wealthy elites.
>>74680417
That's some 'logical' leap you made there friend.
>>74675552
McAfee is better
>>74680575
How so? Libertarians are ok with a minimum wage of 0.00 dollars, and are ok with flooding nations with limitless labor. Those two stances combined are doom for everyone but the oligarchs.
>>74680575
No, it's not. Libertarianism serves corporate interests. It is anti-white because importing shitskins is most profitable for corporations atm. To add to this, any ideology that takes away hardworking folks' labor rights is cancerous. Protect your citizens. Don't exploit them.
>>74676925
He also wants to make our taxes more progressive.
>>74676251
Open immigration will bring in more non-Whites who are notorious for voting Democratic, which is the party of ever growing entitlement programs. Again, if it's not the parents who will vote it will be their children who, by virtue of the current understanding of the Fourteenth Amendment, will be citizens and later vote to sustain and enlarge federal government programs.
>>74675552
Why aren't you supporting the superior Austin Petersen?
>>74676693
But the educated and productive ones are more than capable of going through the legal process right?
>>74676251
This is a lie. Immigrants do not improve the economy. it is know that the IQ of nations is extremely important. immigrants ruin that.
>>74680968
But muh GDP!!!
>>74680812
>It is anti-white because importing shitskins is most profitable for corporations atm.
incorrect. take another step back and realize bullshit regulation and taxes is the whole reason they move the jobs away
taxes are anti white because they empower people who weren't even born here, as well as niggers and anchor babies
>I'm an active campaign staffer
Have you meet Gary Johnson?
>>74675552
>I intend to remain anonymous.
He has more than one staffer?
>>74681064
I have. Coordinated his efforts at my state convention.
>>74675552
You're supporting a guy that will make the jew's job in destroying humanity exponentially easier. If Trump doesn't win you can kiss your ass goodbye, you are fucked and humans will never have freedom again. We already beat the establishment, no one needs your shitty third party candidate.
>>74676251
Found the globalist kike.
>>74677243
why would you advocate open borders before that goal?
putting the cart before the horse
>>74676693
Why do immigrants need to be shitskins? Why not let legal immigrants from Europe come here? The open borders nonesense is about the most retarded thing anybody has ever said. You're on par with saying if we fight them they win.
>>74681042
How are taxes related to open borders and labor rights? I never said anything about taxes.
>>74681198
Libertarianism is typically a package deal my friend. Obviously in office, there would be an order to it.
>>74676957
Sanders supporters are stupid and don't understand laws or politics they're just fed up teens/collage kids
>>74680417
Whit nationalist libertarianism is the most pro white ideology there is. It allows white people do succeed at what they do best without government conflicts and political nonsense to slow them down.
>>74681261
you talk shit on libertarians but you have no idea what you are talking about
open borders without a welfare state was a real thing in my country. we went to the moon dutchfag
then we started taking money from white people and giving it to niggers, and illegal immigrants, and their babies
liberty is pro white, taxes are not
>>74681214
This.
Have "open immigration" from Europe, maybe even from East Asia assuming the immigrants are high skilled and educated.
>>74676251
>Because our economy can directly benefit from open immigration.
Not all immigrants are created equal.
Some have higher IQ's than others, meaning only some can take on certain labor professions (ie doctor, programmer, lawyer). Some commit more crime and use more welfare than others. Not all contribute more in taxes than they take out in welfare.
For example, you have to look at the racial demographics of crime. Asians commit the least amount of crime while blacks commit the most. Housing criminals in prison costs $40k a year. That doesn't count paying police salaries to patrol troubled 'diverse' neighborhoods.
It costs $10k to send a child to public school from K-12. A lot of a certain demographic drops out of high school before graduating. That's money not recouped and down the drain.
I can rattle on more expenses, but you hopefully get the point. Not all immigrants net contribute to the economy. Europe's migrant crisis is a good example of this, where the majority are illiterate and projected to cost billions to support.
>>74680417
no its pro white we are the global(non ist) elites your just white trash so why don't you get with the program, do something productive, and then start outsourcing to cheap labor
>>74675552
How does it feel to be participating in COINTEL?
>>74676251
>It's illogical to keep hard working people from coming to work.
not when they overwhelmingly vote for socialism you fucking retard.
>>74680812
if you're willing to produce more for less you are harder working
>>74681540
Open borders if you were European. There national quotas for certain parts of the world, especially from non-European countries.
As far as for a welfare state, the United States certainly didn't have the intensive social programs it does now but welfare always existed, along with the taxes to fun them, at the state and local levels.
>>74675552
Who?
>>74676251
You fucked up
>>74681540
Also, taxes goes to much more than welfare. Think internal improvements, what the Founding Generation called infrastructure. If you read the letters of the Founding Fathers you will understand that they were all about muh roads. Even Thomas Jefferson, the archetype of American Libertarianism, wanted to provide congressional funding of internal improvements. He never did beyond to facilitate interstate commerce because he believed that a constitutional amendment was required for the federal government to fund intrastate internal improvements. It was not until James Monroe (God Bless) did internal improvements become a national security issue, thus the proud American tradition of muh roads and muh waterways went underway.
>>74681673
My country is as productive as you on average
>>74681042
This assumes that your country is a multicultural shithole. In an all white nation taxes benefit whites. Taxes are not the problem. Shit skin immigration is.
>>74680575
I dont think this is that big of a leap. I'm libertarian but I do think there needs to be restrictions on immigration. If you have too much immigration from one part of the world you basically create a ministate in your country. Just look at the south west.
>>74682593
>In an all white nation taxes benefit whites. Taxes are not the problem. Shit skin immigration is.
I think libertarians bring up non-Whites, even while simultaneous advocating open borders, because they are trying to use the hatred for non-White leeches at their advantaged. They think that if they can manipulate angry Whites who don't think further than their individual pockets. Whites who care about the White race and understand that Whites, as a racial family, should be taken care of. They don't call for this libertarian emotional trap.
>>74681182
Screw open borders cucks like Johnson.
>>74682364
Nope. I realize you're playing with scale. What you probably don't know is that we are massively more productive than ever shows up in the numbers because of "Unavoidable Unreported Negroid Waste." Benelux has no equivalent and would not be able to catch up were your economy to receive an Atlanta.
>>74675552
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTLiCxgAy_w
Gary is a leftist faggot is disguise
>>74677243
>Dramatic reductions in our current welfare system
The people you let in will vote out your welfare reduction policies.
Look at the countries they come from for a preview.
>>74682994
Well I don't care so much about the race but the intelligence and overall quality of people. It just happens that whites and asians on average are obviously supperior to the shitskin hordes.
Nourishing a bunch of useless white welfare trash isn't better than nourishing actual niggers.
>>74682994
Exactly. Libertarianism is a mask for white ethnic interests. Not surprising it was invented by a Jew so that whites could go through life talking about "economics" instead of racial interests like everyone else. Libertarians outside of Chris Cantwell are fucking cowards in my opinion.
>>74675552
'staffer' from UK REPORTING
Don you get many Brit working on campaigns over there?
Why does your party hate the American people?
>>74675632
>HerpDerpBREAKITONDOWN
Second post retarded post.
>>74676251
>libs actually believe this
>>74684906
The big difference is that in white countries you can tell shit tier white people to contribute or starve. Most will comply, and there wouldn't really be a shit storm to deal with. It isn't so easy to do that with 45 million rioting, violent niggers like the US has.
>>74682364
I wasn't talking about the Netherlands I was talking about you personally productive men naturally favor libertarianism because they can work at there full potential wheres leftward liberalism and authoritarianism hold them back with regulations and try to make them equal to unproductive degenerates
>>74676251
Except every measure of fact goes against this cucktier logic. The rest of society subsidizes this cheap labor through the payment of things like healthcare and food stamps. It is literally corporate welfare you fucking stooge.
By supporting mass immigration Libertarianism literally creates what it is opposed to.
>>74685820
forgot commas
>>74675973
Nope, the Koch brothers and Neocons are using Gary Johnson to derail the Trump train and ensure a Hillary victory. Yes, the same neocons that have undermined libertarians for years now are #GaryMissiles now.
>>74675552
Are you Libers, moderate at all ? I'm moderate but it seems like I have no place to call home any more... I just want people to compromise and get along again..
Will Johnson give me a hug if he's elected?
>>74676639
why aren't all fat people libertarians? They're pretty much the only political party that would encourage such a life style.
>>74685869
look man theres a big difference between what liberatarianism is supposed to be and what libertarian polices the US congress will allow to pass. I'm libertarian myself but even I'm willing to admit it will never work in America unless the government is willing to do a complete rehall. For open immigration it would never work in the US as long as there are still things like welfare, anchor baby voters, government paid ER visits etc. However open immigration would work if the government disregarded social welfare like it used to (basic government is a core tenant of libertarianism we all know it won't work without it), enforced more strict and active deportation, and had more harsh penalties for crime especially with the death penalty
>>74676639
I remember seeing a girl of that size in a Miata once when I was a young child. Ever since I've had the strangest aversion to those cars. How can something so big fit into something so small?
>>74675552
Why are you wasting our time with Johnson and not based McAfee?
Garry Johnson is not a practical libertarian. Idealistic, sure, but ideals need to be practical and be useful to the people, and as such, Johnsons policies dont stack up.
I voted for Johnson in 2012. I will not vote for him now.
>>74675552
What are the benefits for working for the Clinton campaign? Do you get paid by the thread or by the post?
>>74686657
fat people want big government for support libertarianism is based on solving all your problems by yourself and requiring consent from others for help which would include people who hate fat people
>>74686715
Fair enough. Many libertarians are either too dumb, or too cowardly to admit what you just did. I can respect someone like you. I recommend converting to nationalism like I have. Or at the very least supporting it, for the time being.
>>74675552
Sorry, I just got here. Do I need to worry about his running mate's anti 2A record? That's a deal breaker for me.
>>74675552
how did you feel about getting the support of based Joe 'manlet' Rogan?
>>74675552
Look guy, I can appreciate what you're trying to do, but it won't work - the racist shitbags on here will never support the Libertarian party. Why? Because in reality they have no problem at all with government programs like welfare, food stamps, medicare, medicaid, even single payer national health....as long as it's restricted to themselves and their co-racialists. They only voted GOP for so many years because they thought its pseudo-libertarian rhetoric was a good way to sneak a racial agenda through.
But now that tRump is basically coming out and saying what they've been not-so-secretly thinking all these years they have no more reason to pretend, they can freely come out of the closet like the biggest queen in San Fransisco! He'll get cremated by Hill-dawg in November and his putrid followers will go sulking back to Stormfront afterwards, but that's OK because they never really supported libertarian in the first place. They're just worthless fascists is all.
>>74686494
Taking half measures are what children and women do.
>>74687231
don't want to sound like a fag but I believe the world is best with (actual) diversity and that there is no one best political ideology. I think nationalism is best for organic nations such as Japan, Italy, Iran etc. where people have lived in sustaining societies for thousands of years and have developed a unique culture, naturally developed governments as solutions to everlasting problems. Then of course the radical part I think that synthetic nations which had governments established for specific reasons based on certain principals like America, Singapore etc. which aren't really entirely native populations work best with libertarianism because their ideology and desire for wealth is what connects them not their culture. So I kind of agree with you.
>>74676251
>Lolbertarians
>>74687630
Taking extremes are what children and women do.
MEN... compromise..
>>74675552
I was sold on him after the Joe Rogan podcast interview. Californian Independent here, will write him in if he isn't on the ballot
>>74677041
I can't find what you speak of. Link please?
>>74687993
OK, what about the rest of us? Are we supposed to just be the dumping ground boarding house for the third world until we collapse under the weight of failed bureaucracies, and gibsmedat, all in the name of "diversity"? At least you are half way there I suppose.
>>74687575
you're why people hate libertarians and why everyone believes we're a bunch of holier-than-thou puesdo-intellectuals with polices we can't actually explain or use to govern.
You've been poisoning the water for years, and you're now pissed that nobody will drink it.
>>74675552
What is it like having the political maturity of a relatively mature teenager?
What is it like being a tool for the establishment to use in order to split votes, break our democracy and deny any actual change?
>>74675552
do you feel the johnson?
>>74689803
if you're talking about America specifically, its like I said before, I don't think the country is willing to implement the polices that would be necessary to attain a libertarian society. That would require much less regulation, more contracts between individuals and way more penalties namely the death penalty which would create an "assimilate or die " situation where one mistake for an immigrant would be their last. As far as I'm concerned the only change to US immigration policy should be deport any and all illegals and their families and on an unrelated note increase H1B visas
>>74692350
oh and also I think there should be proof of citizenship to get access to the ER or get into the welfare/foodstamps system although of course I believe welfare should be abolished
>>74675552
>supporting gary "I'm a libertarian but we should force bakers to serve gays" johnson
McAffe is a far better choice, at least policy wise. Though I will admit Johnson is far more marketable. I guess that's the choice that has to be made though: victory or idealogy.
Question:
How can I help?
I'm an active Libertarian in AZ. What can I do to help the Johnson campaign? I don't have money, but a bit of free time. Been working on organizing a county party where I'm at.
Always looking at ways of helping the Libertarian cause.
>>74686980
>implying a vote for Trump isn't actually a vote directly for Hillary
>Trump always has been Clinton's biggest supporter
>Makes up nonsense
>Supported assault weapons ban
>>74675552
If you fail to win the election, but pull enough support from Trump to get Hillary elected will you kill yourselves? If not how are you going to live with the guilt of handing Democrats the supreme court for the next couple generations and destroying America?
>>74697165
Kill yourself and take these libertarians with you. Please.
>>74675552
Why are you trying to sabotage Trump.
>>74697614
Vote for the big ego big government crooked liberal from New York? No, no are you crazy? I'm voting for the OTHER big ego big government crooked liberal from New York.
libertarians are fucking joke.
Why did the libertarians fail to find a Paul-tier candidate for this race?
All the candidates in the primary are seriously lacking in some respect, with johnson it's that he's literally the single worst public speaker I've ever seen in a debate.
Crazy Mcaffee sounds like a cultured voice of reason and Antisocial Petersen seems like a charming chap compared to unprincipled Johnson.
>>74698255
>Crazy Mcaffee
this asshat just ran a pump and dump scheme on a stock, made a few people rich and a bunch of people shit out of luck.
>>74675552
Would you be so kind as to kill yourself? Our species has enough problems.
Can't believe I used to be a libertarian.
Literally babby tier ideology.
Why are you wasting time and money? Just get behind Trump and stop trying to split the vote.
>>74691253
>You've been poisoning the water for years
By explaining to you the facts of electoral life? Huh?
>you're now pissed that nobody will drink it.
Not pissed at all 'cause I'm not a lolbertarian.
