yo i be a /leftypol anarchist
so what does /pol/ think about "libertarians" supporting trump - the statist and protectionist
His "anti-establishment" appeals to me. And if I could vote it would honestly be more of a protest vote against Hilary and Bernie then genuine support for his policies.
>>74632198
I wouldn't really call neo-populist anti establishment but ok
>>74632506
Hence quotation mark's.
He's as close to it as anyone else.
>>74631486
He has some authoritarian underpinnings that I find troubling. Clinton is a beast with seven heads and ten horns by comparison. Ultimately anybody running for president is suspect though.
>>74632582
oh lol yeah i guess he's close to it but really his racist views surely can't be worth the vote. id really believe in voting in this neo-liberal system anyways
>>74631486
What's to think about? He wants to deport a bunch of leftist voters or potential leftist voters who are here illegally.
Doesn't really matter how you sort all the other platform issues. If you're a leftist, you hate his robbing you of a huge amount of voting power and if you're not a leftist you love him for it.
>>74631486
stop stealing our memes you uncreative faggots
also how does it feel that your leddit candidate won't become the nominee
>>74632798
nono, i'm an anarchist not bernie liberal lol. i'm not even american so
>>74632744
>this neo-liberal system
>neo-liberal
Thanks for providing me my first cringe of the day and reminding me how much of a retard I was in my teens/early 20s.
>>74632903
When you abolish the government what's stopping me from running away from your shithole commune and restarting society?
>>74632198
>protest vote
M8 that's why we have the Green Party and Libertarian Party.
I'm feeling the Johnson.
But I gotta say, Trump's views on our full retard foreign policy do make him appealing. As well as him picking our new Supreme Court justice instead of Bernie or Hillary.
>>74632914
it is basically neo-liberal, if you can even call it that. the system heavily bends classical liberal ideas/values and policies
>>74631486
I'm a liberal and I find some of his anti-establishment intresting, still don't think he will win but whatev.
>>74633014
chick in that photo is cute af
>>74632973
if america wants to stop immigration, they should just stop exploiting mexico lol
>>74631486
Trump is the cure to the leftist cancer.
>the N.A.P. doesn't apply to commies
The cold hard truth is....Libertarianism isn't going to work UNTIL we have a sane population that has broken free from the brainwashing.
>>74631486
As a libertarian, I like his foreign policy and the fact that he's anti-establishment. I also think that you need to have protected borders in order to have a libertarian society, as multiculturalism leads to a decline in social trust and cohesion.
>>74631486
you mean you're the meme anarchist
>>74633093
If your society is truly an anarchy than how do you stop people from doing what they want you dumb fucking faggot.
>>74633113
you're just not aloud exploitative private property in anarcho-communism and individualised production is of course allowed. what also upholds private property in capitalism
>>74631486
>so what does /pol/ think about "libertarians" supporting trump - the statist and protectionist
it makes sense if Johnson gets the nomination because he's the worst parts of Democrats and neo-cons combined, with a thin veneer of muh rights to sucker in dumbass lolbertarians
>>74633192
why would i want to stop people's autonomy? do you mean production? well, mutual aid... mutual aid...
>>74633009
So has the left finally agreed on what neo-liberal even means? Last time I checked we didn't have people walking around identifying themselves as neo-liberal nor any sort of neo-liberal credo we could criticise or discuss about.
Neo-liberal, fag, is a completely empty umbrella term the left uses to 1. tag anything they don't like, 2. keep being lazy faggots intellectually unable to process the differences and nuances you can find in the modern right
Anytime you use neo-liberal you're just showing how little you actually know about shit. I know because I was like you once, you Britcuck
>>74633093
No, if America wants to stop immigration they should end welfare, social security, Medicare, etc.
That'll do fine to weed out the fuckwits and the people who genuinely want to work and build a family. That includes white trash and blacks.
Ending the drug war would also do some good.
>>74633293
>what do i call the modern capitalist system then?
>>74633283
How do you stop people from rebuilding society.
>>74631486
I for one think you're a cuck.
>>74631486
THIS ISN`T GERMANY, NO REFUGEES ALLOWED HERE FAGGOT
>>74633387
depends what ye mean
>>74633517
>this isn't germany
>literally is german
>kek
>homophobic and racist slurs everywhere
>/pol/ is cancer
>will never use again
>kill me now or give me 8ch
>>74633556
how do you stop people from reestablishing the society you just destroyed
>>74633217
>aloud
holy shit
>>74633217
>your not allowed to do X
Than how is it anarchy? Wouldn't Anarcho Capitalism technically be true anarchy then?
>>74633614
>What is irony?
Anartard being retarded. Color me suprised.
Now go back to your containment site
>>74633618
i make 1 mistake with synonyms OK
>>74633376
Depending of the country it can be: crony capitalism, state-sponsored oligarchy, rich guys socialism... Modern capitalism is also a nice term. I use modern socialism (or 21st century socialism) when discussing Venezuela or Bolivia, for example.
Neo-liberal is a buzz word that harms any argument you could possibly make when discussing with right-wing faggots or lolbertarians like yours truly.
Just looking after you, familia.
>>74633614
Good job anon, you got the joke. /pol/ is a satirically racist homophobic shithole, get with the programme.
>>74633684
well, private property is a social construct so logically you need authority to create it
>>74633787
There really is no true private property in Anarcho Capitalism though since there is no government to enforce contracts thus people can do whatever they want. True anarchism.
>>74633757
'tisn't really socialism..
teh workers don't have teh means of production, srsly these bernie ppl ain't socialists, they be social democrats and i hate dem for it
>i hate captchas
>>74633856
can't do what ye want when corporations are allowed to run rampant, we need to knock down the hierarchical structures of capitalist businesses so if you want look into https://c4ss.org/
>>74633860
>Anatard in charge of gobbeling up american propaganda
Color me suprised.
That said, Socialism is an umbrella term, roughly ecompassing anything between democratic socialism, as it is practicied in many european countries, and outright communism.
>>74633050
It's still a dude.
>>74633978
state ownership isn't socialism
pls just stop
it's worker's control over the means of production btw
>>74633921
In an Anarcho Capitalist society you can leave whatever settlement your in and start your anarchist hippie commune. Watch as everyone moves to the capitalist settlements because they don't want to give what they worked for to people who didn't work for it.
>>74632744
What racist views?
>>74634177
not if ye don't have the money or land and what if the cappie reck ye enviroment and they still be exploitin' ppl
check em'
>>74634222
like deport/stop immigration of all muslims
trips>>74634222
imma go noa
>>74633050
That's a man FAGGOT
Jamestown settlers were dumb commies and died until they decided to stop being dumb commies and became CAPITALISTS BAYBEE WEEEEEEEW
>>74634143
its common ownership of the means of production, which can include public ownership (the state)
>>74631486
>yo i be a /leftypol anarchist
so basically a marxist?
>>74633217
>aloud
You have to be 18 kid
>>74632506
Well he is inching towards fascism like all the lefty's love to claim. Protectionist economy/subtly race based immigration policy/building nationalist sentiment.
God bless the Trumpfuhrer desu senpai
>>74632967
Or better yet conquering it.
>>74631486
Why post on /pol/? It's a reactionary echo chamber. Our kind is more welcome on /his/.
>>74631486
>yo i be a /leftypol anarchist
git out
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http://www.theotherrussia.org/2008/10/15/anti-fascist-activist-killed-in-moscow/
http://eng.kavkaz-uzel.ru/articles/17288/
>>74631486
>lol 8ch down
It's back up, so back there and don't return here you absolute cock.
>>74633096
Yea the day I shed my libertarian leanings was the day I realized liberty can't exist without the right demographics.
>>74634317
As usual you can't defend your arguments from scrutiny.
>not being a protectionist
Literal cuckold confirmed.
>>74634283
Muslims aren't a race.
A temporary ban on Muslims because they harbour people who are a threat to the community is not racist, it's not done to them specifically because of their genetics or place of origin, it's done because they represent a danger to the country.
>>74634245
>not if ye don't have the money
There is no money unless a particular settlement/city has official currency in their lands and has the power to enforce it
>or land
In the beginning right after the government has been overthrown barely any land will be owned by anyone. The problem with all forms of anarchism is that society will eventually rebuild itself and it's basically just a reset button on the world. This is why nobody but edgy teens and mentally ill adults want anarchism.
>>74633614
>homophobic and racist slurs everywhere
You got a problem with niggers anon?
/pol/ is a board of peace.
>>74633050
ive got bad news for you
>>74634531
Have you fags finally understood that the ones stopping the anarchist revolution in Spain weren't the fascists but the communists? No? Ok, I'll give you another decade.
>>74631486
Can /leftypol/ refute this pic?
>>74634712
You need a state of a similar institute to protect and recognise private property. A right 'libertarian' society would quickly degenerate into small micro states.
>>74634789
You just proved his point. An anarchist society would never work because people could do whatever the fuck they wanted. Every Anarchy is Anarcho Capitalism.
>>74634620
and those demographics aren't possible with democracy
>>74634789
You're avoiding the point. I'm not even an anarchist.
Here are two big red pills in Musical form addressing your EXACT question.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFz1Gg2GnZQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcUZrDX5P7A
>>74634908
Says who? Don't get me wrong i'm pro democracy but Hitler was able to keep a strong European population without democracy just fine.
>>74634789
Wait, why? What's stopping me from shooting would be thiefs and squatters? The fact I own my land has nothing to do with government and all to do with the fact I have ways to defend it. In the case of property under government, a general agreement to not take the defense of it against would be thief on your own because it's less beneficial for all if you end up having to run around in a truck with a machine gun. State is collectivized violence, after all, but that doesn't preclude I using my personal violence to ensure my property remains mine, no government needed.
