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Does anyone else get tired of all this talk about anti-porn legislation?

I think almost everyone on this board agrees that porn is extremely unhealthy for any society. However, these recent stories annoys the shit out of me and probably a lot of other people simply because any time there is political discussion of the dangers of porn it's initiated Christcucks and co-opted by feminists to turn it into a complete women's issue.

All this even though porn is negatively affects both men and women, and arguably effects men even more negatively.

I've struggled with porn and I'd wager many other people on this board have to, but will a bunch of Mormons whining about how it objectifies women really do anything?
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Probably not. The Jews utilize the porn industry to desensitize men and women alike. Agreeably, porn is the fast food of love making. It's great when you're watching it, then after you've finished you feel like shit because you realize that's someone's daughter getting a dildo rammed down her throat so she can puke into a dog bowl and eat it.
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i'm gonna stop fapping for a whole month.

get that peak testosterone so i can put on muscle.

...starting tomorrow.

i had to fap to some milf porn after watching this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GiJiMhuY4k
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>>74613322
>I think almost everyone on this board agrees that porn is extremely unhealthy for any society.
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the internet as a whole is the issue.

without putting a stop to unlimited high speed home internet, COMPLETELY, there is no real way to stop porn. 4chan is porn. The very langauge people use in 4chan has porn ingrained in it. The real step will be recognizing that the internet should have never been free at all and removing it from home use.
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Then there's the issue of phone cameras. Even with the internet censored, short of an extreme surveillance state (which has its own issues) restricting technology purchases is the only way to feasibly stop this.

Technology is the societal ill, porn is a symptom.
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>>74614910
>>74614991
Are you that self-loathing electrical engineer?
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A major step in the right direction would be encouraging young marriage and/or arranged marriage in some form again.

Make marriage a requisite part of life, and stop making people have to wait until they have college degrees and 5+ figure jobs to get a wife and kids. 16-18 year olds used to be mature enough to marry, and the responsibilities of marriage (provided divorce is not easy) prevent men from falling into these kinds of vices and force them to do the "growing up" feminists always bitch about.
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>>74615040
Yeah that's me.
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>>74613769
Obviously he was excluding jews
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>>74613322

The porn that hurts people is the best though.
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>>74613322
There is no actual evidence that porn is harmful, all we have are ideologues from antipostivist social sciences and religious dogma.
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>>74615132
James Buchanan would disagree, you ball and chained cuck.
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>>74616087
>>74616087
>>74616087
If you're talking scientific evidence, yes, there is no evidence. However, this isn't because there isn't but because it cannot be tested. Reason being is because all anti/pro porn testing would require a control group that has NEVER been exposed to porn in their entire life. Unless you can somehow hire Eskimos, Amazon Tribals, or a person that was blind their whole life and just recently cured there is no way any pro/anti narrative can be proven nor disproven.

At the same time, however, their is circumstantial evidence on the affects of porn psychologically and how it alters the perception of the mind and body.
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>>74616624
and said groups would rightfully refuse to take part in any such study (see the Amish)
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>>74616607
nothing wrong with celibacy, but most people can't handle it and marriage is ideal for them
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Porn is completely degenerate whether you are a theist or atheist.

It distorts the mind and twist a healthy perspective of the human body. It causes addiction, lower self-esteem, depression, social anxiety, and social inhibition and social disinterest. You no loner desire to communicate with anyone because everyone is just a tit-monster or thundercock. Your distorted perception of the human body will cause insecurity and low-self esteem. In other words, a walking talking flesh urinal, a flesh object. It lowers dopamine levels and testosterone levels because of constant masturbating. As a result, you lack motivation, inspiration, and interest in normal things. If you even somehow MANAGE to bed a girl you will be incapable of performing. You will be impotent because you don't desire woman. You desire porn.

Spiritually, it causes one to focus on flesh. You eventually turn yourself into nothing more but an animal equivalent to a Bonobo where sex is all on your mind and sex can solve all your problems. You focus so much on flesh that eventually you try to fill that empty hole in your chest with flesh, desire, and orgasms. You will eventually become a selfish cunt worrying only about yourself and your needs. Instead of healthy things like love, kindness, self-control, joy, family, friends, altruism, faith and spirituality.

It is a form of cuckery. You get yourself off BY STARVING YOURSELF. It is the equivalent of being hungry and trying to satisfy yourself by watching people eat at a restaurant instead of eating yourself. Then you wonder where you went wrong.

Politically and socially, it is support of the electronic Jew as pointed out here.
It eventually causes cognitive dissonance. You hate the Jew for all he has done but you invite him into your home so he can cuck you for his own personal gain. For a bunch of /pol/lacks who hate the Jew this is where you all fall.
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There's nothing wrong with porn it's just overindulgence is a bad thing that can seriously fuck you up.
And don't give me some bullshit like if porn didn't exist, we'd all be getting laid.
That is a line of horseshit straight out of the politician's playbook and you know it!
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>>74616966
>>74613322
>>74613594
Friendly reminder that NatSocs are literally feminist socialist

Fuck off, in America, you have the freedom to jerk off. If you wanna be a cuck in a dead end marriage, then be my fucking guest. A man should watch porn as long as it's not illegal or too fucked up.
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I like to watch porn once or twice week. Not a big deal.
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>>74617113
if porn AND "romance and "dating" didn't exist (and courtship before marriage was a shorter process chaperoned by parents as it was 100 years ago) we would almost all be getting laid.

it's the second part that feminists, liberals and even most Western conservatives don't like to hear
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>>74613322
I hate prudes more than anything.
>>74616966
oh blow me faggot
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>>74617162
>>74617162
You presume anyone not wanting to watch porn is a cuck. You also presume that all marriages are a dead end.

On the contrary, all porn is being a cuck as noted here>>74616966

It is a huge form of self-cuckery. You are starving yourself by watching others enjoy. That's like going to a restaurant and ordering food for everyone except yourself. Then you complain about starving.
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>>74617833
4chan is the same thing for conversation
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I don't have a problem with pornography, I have a problem with open access to it by children via the Internet.

The Internet is fantastic, but pornography is unavoidable. Spend enough time anywhere on the web, and you will run across porn.

This leads me to think that the Internet is a place for adults, but with the Internet being ingrained in everything it is impossible to limit a child's use.

/pol/ will have you believe jews are at fault for this, but humans are sexual - and hypersexual at that. Especially alone at night behind a keyboard. THAT's why porn is unavoidable.

Twenty years ago you'd be lucky to find some VHS tapes your uncle left in a box at his old place and fifty years ago you'd be lucky to find your dad's playboy. Now the flesh peddlers can reach your child at any moment.

I remember the first time I looked up porn. I was about 13 and I typed "lesbians" into Google Image search, and the rest is history. I do feel that pornography had twisted my perception of what actual sex was like and I don't think it's good for a child's psyche. Only once I was beyond 18/years old did I realize that it twisted my perception.

I still enjoy pornography and have gone through phases of watching and not watching. I don't think it's addicting, but I do think it's really fuckin' easy to sap your energy by double-clicking on some kinky shit and I could see how others might have a serious problem with it.
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>>74618355
Search engines are the biggest problem, and really the only real way to keep search safe for children is to take down Jewgle and nationalize it.

But this would never fly in America, and even if it did, it would be leftists running it and preventing people from searching for facts.
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>>74618626
Can you explain why /pol/ blames everything on the Jews? Why does everyone hate jews?
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You have to weigh the benefits and risks.

Not jerking off creates a build-up of dopamine and more agonism of dopamine receptors.
Orgasm in males causes the release of prolactin which counters the effects of dopamine.

So if you bust a nut, you're less likely to be psychotic, but also have less motivation.

That's how the chemistry works.
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>>74619068
that "psychotic" tendency is probably also what fuels the greatest breakthroughs in science, religion, philosophy etc.

That's why so many of the great scientists were completely celibate.

I'm not sage though and recognize that sex (within marriage) is the better option for me and for most people.
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>>74619260
You are correct.
I personally value drive and speed over getting my jollies off, even if it means being a bit insane.
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It's a cancer that has metastasised in society and needs violent aggressive chemotherapy. Were I in power of a true sort I would straight up erase and outlaw it in my nation as fast, hard and effectively as possible. We really need to just rip the band-aid off this one and get it done with.
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>>74619068

We're not arguing the morality and physical benefits of masturbation, no one in their right sane mind is going to. The case is that porn is bad, not masturbation. Young men should be masturbating without the need for it.
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>>74613322
The best things the Mormons could do is put some grant money into studying the long-term effects of porn on men.

Anything they do to ban it would be thrown out by the kikes in the courts.
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>>74620088
You cannot ban porn, son. Cheap cameras exist and everyone has one, and you and yours don't have the money or intelligence to police people for making amateur smut.
You fucking losers can't even dent the CP industry, you'd have no chance in hell against normal porn.

I love how you ban-happy tards think you can just write words on paper and hand some retard a badge and tell him to go fuck with people, and think it'll work.

In fact, I make money taking advantage of your stupidity.
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>>74620340
This anon is right, of course. Probably the best we could do is make it harder to make money producing or distributing pornography.

Ultimately, we need to change the culture in order to undo the effects of the sexual revolution. The average person must come to see chastity as a virtue.
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>>74620340

The point of the thread is to encourage dialogue and share views on the subject matter you moron, not to come up with a full five stage plan to erase it from western society. You CAN ban porn and destroy the legitimised income revenue from it, the industry that is regulated you retard, systems can be put in place. Amateur shit is another matter all together, we're referencing the fucking industry that has a vice grip on the balls of this generation. You're the type of dumb cunt that has the self awareness of a retard exploring his first boner.
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>>74620588
honestly, the only way to do this is memory altering technology, or flat out killing everyone right now who's even been tainted by it (90% of the population, and all of 4chan)
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Rather than get worked up banning porn, you should be working to get the most degenerate porn types banned.
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>>74620658
Banning porn is ironically in your case a band-aid on a bullet wound.

You wanna stop guys from jerking off? Treat the disease: BOREDOM
The vast majority of the time when young men jerk it to porn, it's out of boredom.

I found my own cure for boredom. Drugs. Best shit ever.
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>>74621004
arranged marriage and guarranteed and required labor for those who can't get jobs, preferably the kind of labor where one can actually see the fruits of their own handiwork (small scale farming for one example)
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>>74620922
That doesn't work either, dumbass.
It amazes me how so many of you consider yourselves "red-pilled" yet haven't the faintest grasp on human psychology, technology, economics, or basic 2+2 logic.

All one needs to do to destroy your own argument is bring up child porn. You faggots banned that to no avail.
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>>74621146
Please, enlighten us on how to make these ACTUALLY function in our technological modern society.

You want 1800s solutions for 2000 problems and it ain't gonna work because technology and mindset will not tolerate it.
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>>74621306
ironically, the emergence of extremely exclusive niche dating sites is already paving the way for a form of arranged marriage.

Just find a way to bring back monogamy in one way or another and it's already almost there
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I don't think I've ever been addicted to porn, not more than any other male who whacks off. But I have of course watched my fair share of it and even I gotta say I don't think it's healthy. It's indulgent and I think the negative effects are more long term. I think the effects are spread out over such a long period of time that we don't recognize them until maybe a few years have passed. It's not like alcoholism where you wake up the next day puking your brains out.

It's a quick nut so it feels good and it's easy, but I don't think it's healthy for anyone.
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>>74621161

And you think its preferable to live in a world that openly legitimises and gets revenue from child porn?

You complete fucking stooge, the first step is outlawing something on this scale, what comes next is a change in culture and mental assistance.
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>>74621450
>but I don't think it's healthy for anyone.
Unless you have a degree in pharmacology or medicine, it really doesn't matter what you think.

However, you're mostly correct. Whacking it too much stops your brain from getting its much-needed dopamine push. It's like the extreme opposite of doing methamphetamine binges.

The porn is merely a tool used to hasten or enhance the experience, but in the end the chemical results are the same in the brain.
Prolactin release -> dopamine receptor antagonism -> less motivation.

Good cheatcode to use is, bust off then do a line of coke. You keep your dopamine high enough to counter the prolactin, as prolactin is metabolized quickly.

>>74621548
>And you think its preferable to live in a world
I have no choice in the matter. It's here, it ain't going anywhere, and enforcing laws just wastes time and tax dollars. You might FEEL like you're doing something good, but you're not. You're just throwing your cash into a pit. It's basically exactly like porn. Fake stimulation to make you feel good.
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>>74613322
Once again I am completely disgusted with myself. Let me explain because this completely correlates with the OP topic.

I am currently 26. From age 17-24 I was a piece of shit. Looked like a chubby Harry Potter. Smoke a pack a day, smoked weed, did coke and meth on occasion, drank heavily every day. I dropped out of college twice and even got arrested for whipping out my dick in public while out of my mind on meth. I slept in the woods and had sex with questionable women. I shaved my head bald for $40 and a Baggie of weed.

I had a grand realization that I was utterly ruining my entire life. I dropped everything on the spot. I have not smoked/drank/done drugs in 2 years now. I went to technical school and graduated with a certificate in HVACR. I weightlift regularly and am now in well above average physical shape.

The one. Fucking. Thing. I cannot quit is porn. After I masturbate to porn I feel so awful about myself. Like I'm completely worthless. I always try to quit porn (this becomes difficult when you bastards post half naked girls on here too.) but I can never make it more than maybe 4 or 5 days.

When I'm 3 or more days without masturbating or watching porn, I feel so confident, strong, and in control of my life. Like a completely different person. Then I give in, type in "big titty neighbor teen" or some shit, jerk off twice in a row, and then sleep for 11 hours, waking up feeling like shit about myself.
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>>74622274
you need a wife to stop you
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>>74621306
Arranged marriage still happens in conservative societies. Muds, certain kinds of asians, and even some religious groups in the US. Works pretty well too, more liberal folks get stuck up on muh freedom of choice when their choice results in a spouse no better than what they would have been arranged with.
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I'm sorry but porn is useful and has a purpose. Some sex acts most people will never get to try. When was the last time you took part in a 40 man bukkake or a DP + facefuck or a goot panty shitting? It also lets people let out the more primal side of their sexuality without freaking out potential partners
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>>74623470
Indian immigrants and orthodox jews are probably the best example of groups who still do modern jobs/technology but have arranged marriages
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>>74621306
Kill all Jews and niggers, then set off some nukes in the atmosphere.

Seriously, it's for the best that people have to struggle. Everyone has it too easy, so they turn their minds to inventing ever more imaginative ways to anger their parents.
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>>74621931
>bust off then do a line of coke
You may in theory balance out the pharmacological effects, but there's still a lot we don't know.

Plus you're totally discounting the spiritual corrosiveness of degeneracy.
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The economy and feminism have made marriage awful (this was an intentional scheme) so maybe if 60% of couples didn't get divorced....
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>>74622447
This. >>74622274
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>>74622274
Meditation can help you master your urges
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>>74623865
The problem with that reasoning is that too many men use it as an excuse to give up before they even try.

No doubt many of them can thank pornography for their lack of motivation.
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>>74623946
I think public school and university system and the career-ist obsession play equal parts as porn. Kids are taught that marriage and family simply don't matter compared to academics, career success and/or premarital exploits.

High school especially literally shouldn't exist. It completely retards maturity, and prevents early marriage which for at least half of people that age, would set them right. But when pretty much everyone is brainwashed to see that as backwards or only for stupid people they don't even consider it as an option.
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>>74623816
>Plus you're totally discounting the spiritual corrosiveness of degeneracy.

No such a thing exists. What you think is "spiritual" is merely dopamine, endorphin, and serotonin downregulation, which over time can become permanent, and cause apathy, depression, and what you see as "spiritual" decay.

I used to jerk off a lot. I don't blame the porn, I would have done it with or without porn. The porn was just a tool.
I defeated the jerking off by finding other avenues. I satiated my boredom with science, engine repair, and drugs.
Every man has an addiction, aka a passion, and my passion is chemistry, and tinkering with motors.
I also love pushing myself to the brink using drugs. Getting stimmed out for 4 days in a row or more, pushing my sanity to the brink, is as fun to me as anything. I only stop when my body starts taking too much damage.

Wanna solve the porn problem? Cure boredom. It's a disease worse than cancer. I cured mine.
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I'd talk from experience even in grad school, that some of the best hard working students were already married and had wives back home. It really seems that the happiest marriages happen between high school sweethearts.
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>>74624414
Autists get no fun from drugs. Too retarded to appreciate them.

But yeah, sorry. "spiritual" is all in your head like every other emotion you feel.
Neurotransmitters hitting their receptors.

SCIENCE!
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>>74618355
The solution to this is simple, parents need to monitor what their children do on the internet to a certain age. I don't think a child has anything to hide from his her parents until a certain age, they don't have a real right to privacy.

I definitely wouldn't want my 11 year old child have access to porn unrestricted.

But yeah porn is totally fine for adults you are aware of what real sex is like... and while its even probably ok for virgins as well I can see how people can get themselves lost in porn. People do need real self control with this.
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>>74624712
I think it's best to never see it at all as a virgin, that's where the real damage is.

It removes the magic from figuring out sex for yourself with a virgin partner.

Then again the whole internet is "spoilers" for various other parts of the human experience. Porn is hardly the only example of something like this.
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>>74613322
actually, I'm pretty sure porn is god's gift
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>>74624657
You're probably right, I'm an actual autist and have always had an aversion to drugs (except caffiene and the occasional beer) from a young age, mostly because schools tried to medicate me for several years and my parents fought it.
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>>74622274
This is a serious question but do you have anything else to do in yourself?

If you sleep from 4 in the morning to 2 in the afternoon and do nothing the entire day but sit in front of your computer, you'll only naturally become addicted to porn.

You can't stop watching porn and jacking off by simply trying to stop, you need to occupy your day with something on the regular. This is the primary reason why people get addicted to porn, it's not necessarily that they can't control themselves but it's because people have nothing better to do. Porn literally becomes a past time.
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>>74624897
Kids shouldn't use drugs at all if it can be helped.
Neural pruning is strong, especially at younger ages, and psychoactives can interfere with the process, permanently altering brain function. Especially when used habitually/medically.
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>>74624657
I dont normally reply but I care a lot about spirituality so I'll take the bait here.
Spirituality is useful in that it helps you align your neurons to do things you couldn't do otherwise. Like how a monk can fire a massive amount of neurons simultaneously when focusing on compassion. It also helps understand one's mind and body better, which in turn allows for easier navigation in life.
Meditating is on of my passions. And holy shit it's awesome. Lingering in the theta state and vividly experiencing anything you want is so fucking awesome. I'm glad you enjoy chemistry and drugs. Try to understand that other people enjoy other things.
Ps. Sorry for my autism
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>people still watch 3DPD
How do you guys do it?
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>>74625167
Whatever people wanna call it, all it is in the end are your receptors. If those receptors stay healthy and aren't whittled down, you'll keep your "spirituality". If you abuse them, you'll downreg and start to lose your vitality and spirit. You become a shell of yourself, lose the ability to put together thoughts, and basically go batshit. This is why periods of pure sobriety are essential and should exceed the time spent under the influence of drugs, physical activity, sexual activity, or any other stimulus causing prolonged neurotransmitter release and receptor agonism.

This is why Buddhist monks go into states of pure emotionless meditation. They're cleaning up and revitalizing their neurons.
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>>74613594
>The Jews utilize the porn industry
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>>74613322
>I think almost everyone on this board agrees that porn is extremely unhealthy for any society.

No, we don't, Ahmed. Especially since there is no proof for it.

In fact, porn makes you a better man.
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>>74613322
Porn is good because it allows us to relieve our natural urges without evil women. Women don't want men to have 2d porn because they are afraid they wont have any more to exploit. Nowadays that we Italian-American men have discovered hentai our women are so pissed that we won't talk to them. It's so awesome that those bitches get what they deserve.
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>>74626774
>>74626870
>>74627039


shills gtfo

this thread has to die before it gets flooded with more shills and/or idiots
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>>74627039
>Women don't want men to have 2d porn because they are afraid they wont have any more to exploit.

This.
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>>74625946

You'd probably be more likely to see a girl who looks like that at the synagogue
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How about you just go for the jugular and tell young lads that watching men with massive cocks pounding women they couldn't get with is the epitome of pathetic?

One of the things which made me stop was imagining it from another perspective, that is to say seeing pornography for what it is - voyeurism.
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>>74613322
I would like to see child porn and human experimentation porn legalized on the grounds that it is relevant to science and history.
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>>74613594
>The Jews
>The Jews
>The Jews

The Jews will put up with whatever we do, so just chill.
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>>74626870
>>74626870
>>74626870
The study is bullshit. All that is circumstancial. All that can be affected by child hood, certain environments, and mental disorders. The study is flawed because it ASSUMES all the men and women are exactly the same. Now if the study was done on nothing but isolated Eskimos of the same tribe, nation, age, it would be legitimate.

However, modern western upraising is very random. Again, the study is flawed because the TRUE control is finding people that have NEVER been exposed to porn at all UNTIL this experiment. That's improbable at this point. You would need to hire Amish, Eskimos, Amazon Tribal people, and recently cured blind people.

There is circumstancial evidence how porn is not only bad but for the weak. Since humans are apes the only apes that watch other apes have sex but get none themselves are the weakest males. They sit back and watch all the rest while they masturbate. That is the porn of the animal kingdom. HOWEVER, it is only done by the weakest males. Porn is for the weak. It doesn't make you strong and it doesn't mean you are strong. It means you are weak.
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>>74627444
the whole internet is voyeurism, including reading threads on 4chan. Every single thing with a screen conditions you into it, even non porn media
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>>74627560
so you're saying it can't be changed, once weak always weak and better to never breed?
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>>74627306
How would you know?
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>>74627625
>>74627625
If you want to live the rest of your life being an animal, be my guest. However, humans are the only animals not required to stick to their basic instincts and basic behavior. We have the ability to evolve mentally, emotionally, and spiritually. That's the only evolution I believe in and accept. The ability to ascend the human animal. Porn is a form of regression to the animal state. Not just animal, but the runt of all animals. The weak baboon or bonobo that gets pushed out of the way because he's too weak to fight back.
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>>74627822
God bless.
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>>74622274
Consider Catholicism

are you an atheist right now?
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>>74627560
>The study is bullshit

Good, make your own study and post it here. We will have a look, cuck.

>There is circumstancial evidence how porn is not only bad but for the weak

Lol.
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>>74616966
I care about myself only ofc , why should i give a fuck about others ? And i m ugly anyway so i have 0 chances with females why even try
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>>74629396
I already answered that here.>>74616624
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>>74629980

So I have won. I posted 2 studies that show that porn turns cucks into men, and you admit that you have no counter study.

Never post your noporn bullshit again.
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>>74630360
>>74630360
No you didn't. The study is extremely flawed for everything I showed here.>>74627560 and here >>74616624

Besides that, the study is flawed for a huge reason. The participants were all required to watch SOMEONE ELSE'S PORN. Not the choice of their own.

That's like trying to prove drugs is not addictive by bringing in a group of random alcoholics, tobacco users, prescription drugs and coffee drinkers. The study would be flawed because the word "drugs" covers a huge category of addictive substances that all individuals don't respond to the same. One man's "drug" is heroine but not meth, one man's "drug" is alchohol but not tobacco.

If a study needs to be done on drugs it has to be done by narrowing the study to a SPECIFIC drug and not a blanket study on ALL drugs.

Porn works the same way "drugs" do in that everyone is addicted to DIFFERENT KINDS of porn. The subject of porn is a huge blanket subject that covers many different things. Your study on porn would be flawed if you showed straight men gay porn and gay men lesbian porn. It has to be narrowed down to a specific category to only ONE DEMOGRAPHIC.

That's why your study is flawed. It assumes everyone is exactly the same; gay, straight, pedo, furry, etc. It assumes ALL PORN IS THE SAME. That's as dumb as saying ALL DRUGS ARE THE SAME.
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>>74630793
>That's why your study is flawed.

And yet, it's better than your crappy anecdotes without any basis. Probably you extrapolate from your OWN experience, pathetic cuck.
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>>74631232
>it's better than your crappy anecdotes without any basis.

You mean how only the weakest males in ape groups watch others have sex while they masturbate because of how easily they are pushed out of the way? Or how it's only the weakest males that do that? That's fact. The truth is that humans are no different. Those that watch porn do so because Chad and Tyrone pushed them out of the game.
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>>74613322
they should change the law. you have to be 21 to be in porn at least
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>>74613322
i gotta stop whacking it to porn boys
seriously nigga i gotta stop hanging out here.
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>>74631706
>The truth is that humans are no different. Those that watch porn do so because Chad and Tyrone pushed them out of the game.

Oh shit, more unfounded assumptions.
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>>74613322
>Porn hurts everyone!

Not if it's 2D
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>>74613322
Porn is degenerate. Feel a lot better since I don't watch it anymore.
>degrading for the participants and degrading to the viewers
> jewish ploy.
>watching another man have sex is arguably one of the most cuck things to do

Why are you still fapping to porn, anon?
>reduce consumption
>switch to lesbian or solo porn
>switch to classy nude pictures
>stop altogether
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>>74631706
Yes and no.

humans avoided this hierarchy for most of history by arranging marriages between those of similar looks and social status.

the whole modern concept of "romance" is going back to the animalistic nature of competition. Chad and Tyrone aren't really having any more functional families than whites. But Ahmed is because they still believe "love" and "dating" are bullshit and marriage isn't about love but obligation and contract.

you don't need to give up hope because you're not a "chad", just lower your expectations in female looks and go for someone plain .
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>>74631706
Dude, alpha guys are some of the most prolific porn viewers because they have an extremely high sex drive, which even they cannot satisfy with real women. Not even Chad fucks 3 times a day on average if he has a job.
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>>74613322
>Christcucks and co-opted by feminists to turn it into a complete women's issue.

> arguably effects men even more negatively.

holy shit you fucking pathetic cuckolds will go to no end to delude yourselves, nothing will ever change, men will always kill themselves four times as often as women, fuck it
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>>74632138
see
>>74632098


part of the brainwashing of porn is that you need to be an all-physical thug to get women. That's only if you want sluts like pornstars. The worst advice ever is "stop watching porn so you become an alpha man who has tons of casual sex with bitches" because that defeats the whole purpose which should be to get a wife and family.
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>>74631857
seriously what in the fuck, i watched porn every day even after i got the girl of my dreams in higschool
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>>74632382
that explains why you're a male feminist
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>>74632234
The "we need to ban porn and tax single men" christcucks need to fucking leave
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>>74632412
>vaguely take the position that men should have the right to watch porn

>this makes me a feminist

No, im pretty sure you're the one here trying to shit up mens rights
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>>74632485
I never support either of these things but it should be kept completely away from children. And I'm completely against a bachelor tax
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>>74616966
[CITATION FUCKING NEEDED]
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>>74632538
I bet you think you should raise kids with no access to internet or vidya, that they should just sit in their room all day staring at the wall and end up retarded like someone i know who grew up like that
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>>74613322
Porn is good for society.

A masturbating society is not a revolutionary one.
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>>74613322
>will a bunch of Mormons whining about how it objectifies women really do anything?
For other Mormons, yes.
For everyone else, the effect will be negligible. We made an error somewhere in the 90s and stopped condemning masturbation socially. People would still do it, but they would keep that shit secret as all Hell.

Now we're at the point where the highest grossing film actress "gets hacked" and her nude selfies aren't even questioned. Not one:"what is JLaw playing at???" article. In fact the subject was shouted down.

So... now we have a pornographic society. 15 year old florida girls gang banging the football team in the school toilet to make a film of it. Is this what we really wanted? Maybe it is, I dunno?
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>>74632783
>>74632783
>I bet you think you should raise kids with no access to internet or vidya,

Well, yeah, actually. Not because of avoiding porn but because being locked inside is unhealthy. Kids should be outside playing, riding bikes, visiting each other, going camping etc. That's assuming you live in a little quiet town where all that is safe.
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>>74613322
It affects men WAY more, because women have social pressure to not watch porn, so they don't\watch less.
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>>74613322
I cut massively down on my porn consumption recently. I decided to give it up for Lent, and I realized that I really don't need it. For thousands of years, men have been jacking off with nothing but their imaginations as fuel.

Now that I'm going off my imagination, my sessions are fewer and better.

I'm not going to say that you should quit watching porn, but it's been pretty good for me. Maybe it'll be good for you too. I say give it a try, anons. Just a couple weeks without. You don't even have to give up masturbation.
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