Hiroshima and Nagasaki were terrible acts that I have seen many people here justify in previous threads for various reasons ranging from "Fuck those slanty-eyed bastards" to "The alternative was a land invasion which would have been worse". Well, that is not the point of this thread, the point of this thread is that I hope that everyone can agree they were war crimes and that they should be apologized for.
It doesn't matter if you think it was justified because the fact is that it was a war crime and war crimes should be apologized for regardless of whether or not you think it was the "lesser of two evils". It was a direct targeting of a civilian population, it instantly killed over a hundred thousand innocent civilians who had no part in any other atrocity or war crime that you may feel the need to deflect to for some reason. Those that survived were inflicted with debilitating injuries that not just affected them but also increased the risk of ailments such cancer for their descendants who are no longer at war with you. Put aside your pride and apologize for what you know were terrible acts, what you know were war crimes.
Also, please note that WW2 was not a black and white, "good" vs "evil" affair, it was a 5 year cluster fuck and all major factions committed atrocities and war crimes such as the bombing of Dresden and the rape of Berlin and they should also be apologized for but that is not the subject of this thread so please don't feel the need to deflect to them or call me a hypocrite.
>>74588069
Hey, Japan. Start shit, get hit.
>>74588069
>muh war """"crimes""""
It's called war
![KKEEPMEPOSTED.jpg.a83c5b19929ef01e94df047accc86180[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9V7aNPJ.jpg "KKEEPMEPOSTED.jpg.a83c5b19929ef01e94df047accc86180[1].jpg")
>>74588069
Fuck you Tojo.
>>74588069
Save a bit much of lives and avoided island hoping and total destruction of the Japanese island. Brit cuck, stop with this daily shilling
>>74588069
>Niggersaki
>>74588069
Like the nightly fire bombing would have made them surrender. You should apologize for not knowing history
>>74588069
Considering how fire bombing was already fucking up more civilians, I say that complaining about nukes is kind of stupid.
>>74588069
We should have let the Germans take you. Fucking limey cunt.
>>74588223
You can rationalize it any way you want as I covered in OP but the fact of the matter is that it was a war crime and all war crimes should be apologized for, America is not special, America is not infallible, you are not exempt.
Let's do it man! Let's do the whole fuckin' village!
Eye for an eye, justice.
>>74588069
Japan actually tried to spread the bubonic plague.
So was the Baton death march
So was the rape of Nanking
So was unit 731
Fuck off gook sympathyzers
we aint apologizing for shit
>>74588069
joining the allies was the real war crime
>>74588069
They flew over Hawaii one bright Sunday morn,
And dropped bombs on out sailors there sleeping,
So when that day rolled around and we flattened their town,
It was the whirlwind those Nippers were reaping.
Then for good measure, we did it again,
And vaporized a million more Nips,
So don't come to the table and bet against Uncle Sam,
Unless you're prepared to lose all your chips.
--Ernie Murrant, US Navy 1940-1945
>>74588465
Butthurt mudslime detected
>>74588069
Definitely, we could have stretched that war on a lot longer if it weren't for nukes. The money changers could have been making a mint on the military industrial complex. We could have stretched the war out possibly another 4 years, especially with the fact that the Japanese were very Nationalistic and had a lot of pride in their country.
Right on OP, we should apologize. Great post. I r8 8 m8.
We won't apologize, and there is nothing you left leaning British parasites can do about it.
Drop Mic.
>>74588143
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR8Oe3mDF0s
the first bomb caused manga
the second bomb caused anime
what would the 3rd bomb have caused/pol/?
>>74588069
America already apologized to Japan for Pearl Harbor
They sent one apology to Hiroshima and then another to Nagasaki
>>74588528
The citizens of Hiroshima and Nagasaki didn't
>>74588561
None of those things were done by the innocent civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki, you can't justify your own war crimes by pointing at the enemy's.
>>74588690
Take this garbage to the dump, pussy.
>>74588069
It would have been painful for about a second. That's if you even feel the pain.
>>74588630
12/10
>>74588069
Nope
We got to nuke them for their Unit 731 shit
They're lucky we didn't wipe them off the face of the fucking planet
They weren't peaceful, insightful warrior-monks. They were vicious as fuck and would have done more evil shit if they hadn't been stopped
Should the Japanese apologize for Pearl Harbor or for Unit 731 and it's atrocities? Fuck no, war is Hell faggot.
>>74588069
War crimes are for the losers. For winners they are strategic actions.
Friendly reminder that the USA wouldn't have bombed Japan without the UK's okay
You have just as much blood on your hands
>>74588069
Suicide diving a plane into thousands of naval gleet in hopes that will somehow be all of Americas ships so they don't have a naval fleet they would be stopping anything. Talk shit get nuked nigger.
>>74588069
war is rough. what can i say. we were simply the country that didn't do as much awful shit, and we didn't do the awful shit we did out of spite
>>74588465
>war crime
Winners write the history books Abdulah. They started a war, we finished it. They were offered a chance to end it peacefully before it happened and they didnt, they were then offered to end it once again and they didn't.
No apologies, no regret, only pity for the poor peasants who had to be killed so that millions more could live.
why do you post this every day? youve gotten your answers. america doesnt have to apologize for nuking a bunch of savages who refused to surrender even after the first bomb was dropped.
>>74588069
Made me lol, faggot.
>>74588069
ching chong chong
Ok, I was a warcrime. Let's prosecute the men involved... and while we're at it, let's prosecute the men who participated in the slave trade. Also, let's go after the Egyptians for enslaving those pesky Hebrew people
>>74588069
Are you fucking high? Nuking their ass was the best thing to happen to them. We not only rebuilt that shit but we progressed their civilization 20-30 years faster then they would have themselves.
>>74588069
>muh a-bombs
more people died in tokyo/dresden firebombings
>>74588800
For those close to the hypocenter maybe, those further out got to feel their skin burn, char and melt and then vomit up their liquefying organs due to radiation damage at the cellular level until they died of shock in extreme agony.
>>74588069
It is a war crime by todays standards but the geneca conventions weren't a thing yet
Apologizing is for fuckin' NERDS
Also
Unit 731 ALONE made them deserving of the nukes. Japan was worse than Germany when it came to committing war crimes
>>74588144
>It's called war
Why Nuremberg trials then, leaf?
Hiroshima/Nagasaki fits in the genocide definition on which the Germans were tried and hanged.
Stop opening these threads every single fucking day you faggot.
>>74589023
Breaking news! War is unpleasant and brutal.
>>74588069
nah, how about the soulless japs apologize for being soulless japs
>>74588069
1) we already did apologize. We then followed up by basically piggybacking their economy off of ours for a good decade or two, mostly in order to keep the soviets out.
2) The people who committed these 'war crimes' are either too old to care, or already dead. We're not responsible for whatever event that happened a little under a century ago, long before literally everyone on this board was alive.
Moralfags will just keep moralfag'n
>>74589027
I assume you mean Geneva and they were actually
>>74589023
Boo fucking hoo. Notice how much shit Japan has started since then? NONE.
>>74589016
>MUH DRESDEN
>>74588718
Just be glad we didn't wipe them out and kowtow to your masters like a good dog.
>>74588069
>ww2 was not a black vs white, good vs evil affair
As about a thousand anons per day point out, that's totally true in the context of the European theater - there are nuances.
Japan doesn't have any excuse, they chimped out on China and the US for no reason. There's no justification for then starting a campaign of expansion, and there was certainly no justification for preemptively attacking the US.
That, and the "it circumvented the need for a land invasion" are the only two justifications you need. The US did nothing wrong.
Oi, Jap
Walk on
>>74589112
But you are missing one key point.
The Germans lost.
>>74589112
>Why Nuremberg trials then, leaf?
Because the allies won. If Germany won there would be the reverse of the Nuremberg trials, would that invalidate Germany's "crimes"? No, they still committed them, they just don't matter because they won.
The notion of war crimes is stupid, the victors win, the losers don't, the end.
>>74588069
did japan apologize for nanking or 731? also,
>war ''crimes''
ITT: normies getting rustled
>>74588069
>this fucking faggot making this thread everyday
japan has officially stated that they do not want an apology for hiroshima.
Japan doesn't want an apology. We're friends now. The West, and America especially, is the savior of humanity, and there's no need to dwell on the negative aspects of our passed. We all know Hiroshima happened, unlike the Tiananmen Square Massacre, which the Communist Party is still covering.
If anyome should be apoligizing, it's communists, islamists, and other anti-American supporters of terrorism like Jeremy Corbyn and Hugo Chávez. The most violent people in the world today are the people asking America to apologize.
>>74588069
>Japan views modernization as the only way to protect the Emperor and Japan as a nation
>Japan dominates Korea and Taiwan and beats the shit out of China and Russia
>develops cultural phenomenon whereby failure to sacrifice to the nation and the Emperor is the greatest possible dishonor or crime anyone can commit
>get embroiled in war with the Western powers over oil and rubber in the south to help fuel their stagnating second war against the Chinese
>every Japanese soldier is fighting to the death to defend the kokutai and the Emperor
>refuse to surrender after hundreds of thousands dead, navy sunk, Air Force destroyed, cities firebombed to shit
>US last resort is bombing two industrially important cities to force Japan to surrender
>Japn realizes unending sacrifice won't save the Emperor this time and surrender
>waaaah Hiroshima and Nagasaki were war crimes
if you were to go back in time and ask a regular Jap if they would surrender on August 5 1945, I can guarantee you 99% of them would refuse. the national culture surrounding the emperor and the concept of dishonor through surrender were too strong to overcome. they figured if they sacrificed and died enough, the Americans would grow tired and bloody and quit and return to status quo ante bellum. The bombing of H&N showed them that continued resistance wouldnt result in a bloody victory, but absolute annihilation.
now fuck off and never pedal this stupid meme bullshit ever again
>>74588069
Are you jew ? No ? You can fuck off
>>74588069
You need to apologize for "colonizing" half the world at gunpoint you stupid Britshit.
>>74588069
America has nothing to apologize for. Ending the war in the pacific prevented Russia from gaining a foothold in South-East Asia while simultaneously ending a war that was going to prove costly for all involved. It likewise prevented Japan from going into its shell and has therefore contributed to their powerful economy and current position in the global scene.
This thread every fucking day dude stfu about it, I've said it before and I'll say it again if you think you're alive then you're better off dead. I will not apologize until Niggers apologize for being Niggers.
>>74588069
Post more goopy arms. I find Japanese gumby extremely attractive
>>74588718
No but they were main production centers for war supplies including ammunition and armored vehicles. So they supported the killing of americans and got killed for it. Tough shit.
Winners can't be sinners.
>>74589318
>>74589323
The Japanese leadership maybe but that does not mean that an apology is not owed to the Japanese people and to Japan as an entity. Every war crime should be apologized for because they are exactly that, crimes. It is a fundamental concept that no state should be exempt from.
bitches be scared of a united asian race
>USA: Hey Japan, we have a super powerful bomb that will literally destroy entire cities. We will use it against you if you don't stop flying your planes into our warships.
>Japan: HAHAH AMERICAN PIG! WE NEVER SURRENDER!! DIE YANKEE SCUM!! HAHAHA! GO KAMIKAZE GO!! HAHAH!
>USA: Okay, we warned you. Here's one bomb. *drops bomb* You'd better surrender or we'll drop another.
>Japan: NO MATTER YOU STILL YANKEE PIG SCUM! HAHAHA JAPAN NEVER SURRENDER!!
>USA: Alright, we can keep doing this all day *drops second bomb*
>Japan: HOW DARE YOU! YOU EVIL IMPERIALIST MUST APOLOGIZE FOR RAPING JAPAN WITH AMERICAN BOMBS!!!
I'm sorry, but we told them EXACTLY what would happen. All they had to do was stop flying planes into our ships. But they refused. Nobody's fault but their own.
>>74588718
War waged by the white man is hell, Bilal my son.
Something you will find out soon enough.
>>74588069
A war crime? its called fucking war. The choice was either send hundreds of thousands of men to their deaths over pointless "HONOR-U" or nuke the fuck out of that country to tell them to surrender.
From my understanding, the emperor or what ever the fuck wanted to surrender but the people / generals of japan did not. It was an inevitability. Only thing I can say is that I hope Americans have this much courage when we eventually get invaded.
>>74589583
We sunk the nips.
We firebombed the nips.
We nuked the nips.
Now they've been one of the most powerful economic forces in the world since the 70s. I think we helped them more than we hurt them.
>>74588069
>dropped leaflets prior to bombing telling citizens to leave the city
>war crime
>>74589023
that actually sounds kind of hot
>>74588069
>>74588465
>>74588718
>>74589023
So why aren't you Limeys apologizing for being one of the biggest, if not THE biggest imperial power in the last 500 years?
No they can go fuck themselves.
>>74588069
Yeah we'll apologize as soon as you apologize for the actual genocide of the Chinese "dogs".
>>74588069
Silly dad. War crimes are for people who lost the war
>>74589549
Why? We saved the Japanese population that the Japanese military were going to throw under a bus. If anything, the Japanese should be thankful for America. In addition, Japan would need to apologize to the rest of Asia for their war crimes since they were much, much worse than nukes.
>>74588069
we apologize every year,,,,like good goys.
>>74588069
Where do I send my apology? Should I just mail a letter, or what?
>>74589658
this x100
>>74588069
Uncle Sam should send it's troops to do "bad things" in traditional way, nukes feels souless and degenerate.
I could understand using them if you would be losing and do it as last resort but having upper hand and doing it was weak as fuck.
At least they could drop them on Moscow before commies made their own.
>>74589073
Indeed it did, but we did get some nice medical science out of it.
>>74589516
So was fucking Detroit. Chicago and every other American city during the war and I would guarantee that if Germany (who were close to obtaining a nuke) had dropped one on one of those cities then I can guarantee the people involved would have been hanged at Nuremberg. Deliberately dropping a weapon of mass destruction on a civilian population is a war crime.
>>74588699
Anime would of become real
>>74589112
Germans lost. America won. History is writen by the Victors.
>>74589549
the ends justify the means, abdul. we're still giving out purple hearts that were made for operation downfall
>>74589549
Neither the leadership nor the people want an apology. Only the Left wants America to apologize, and it's because they want to make America look bad. This is about you pushing a certain narrative about the West. Don't pretend you're motivated by morality.
>>74589886
That's why the onus is to win the war dear boy,.
>>74588069
>Winning war by killing less people
>A crime
CHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG
>>74588069
Winners don't apologize for winning.
>>74589886
>he says as he gleefully drops incendiaries on Dresden
I wasn't alive then, but you should apologize for your bad teeth.
>>74589886
>civilian population
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_war
dont fuck with the u.s of ehhh
>>74589886
Here is the difference you Britcuck.
We dropped the bomb to end the war. The Germans would have dropped it purely for vengeance. You know damn well the Germans would have dropped their first nuke on New York or Washington DC. Not a major industrial area.
>>74589150
You have to give credit to the Japs for getting over their catastrophe, unlike the Jews.
>>74589886
I'm sorry that we didn't have ultra-precise guided missiles back then.
Jesus Christ, grow up and learn your history. We had to fly big and slow prop planes through flak to even have the chanc eof dropping a shit-ton of bombs, hoping one would land on target.
There were no drone strikes, idiot.
>>74588069
What's the difference between killing tens of thousands of civilians though conventional carpet and fire bombing, and killing them with a nuke?
Hiroshima and Nagasaki only get attention because the nuke is such a flashy weapon.
The fire bombing of Tokyo cost more lives.
>>74589549
How about some opium wars. We learned to fuck over yellow men from (you).
>>74588069
Everyone comitted crimes during the war, everyone has a guilt to play on.
The ones that ordered are dead or will soon be, so it's better to leave this and get on with life.
>>74588069
You again! Glad we continue to waste so much of your time!
We Americans will remain knowingly superior, unrepentant, and spiteful till the end. Good day!
>>74588069
SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH KEK! the yanks dont have to say shit
why do you hate freedom ahmed?
>>74589886
Oh look. Britain is taking the moral high ground about bombing a city into dust and ashes. Pic related, it's Hiroshima.
... oh wait. Nevermind. That's not Hiroshima. It's Dresden. LOL MY MISTAKE!
>>74588069
Are you going to apologize for Dresden?
>>74588069
We did. After we pulled them out of the dark ages, and not letting the soviet union anally penetrate them after war.
I hope they're grateful, you're leading me to believe they're not.
>>74589143
I always laugh at this stupid fucking pic
>>74590148
yeah thats pretty true.. I never looked at it that way.
>>74590220
that doesnt count
Ameritards are just fucking racists. Just look at his propanada posters and how they are portrayed nips.
They are kill civilians and wipe off the towns with napalm because they want to kill them. Fucking inhuman bastards.
Ameritards even worse than nazi.
>>74589960
Would that have anything to do with the fact that you occupied them for years after the war, arrested dissenters and set up a pro-US government that set the trend for the Japanese education system of US propaganda and "Ignore the war as much as possible and move on"?
>>74590043
I covered this in the OP, no child left behind appears to have failed.
>>74590216
>The ones that ordered are dead or will soon be
DELET THIS
>>74589748
>The LeMay leaflets were dropped on various cities saying that some cities would be bombed (i.e., firebombed), but they did not reference the atomic bomb.
>Hiroshima was not leafleted before the bombing.
>Nagasaki was leafleted after the bombing.
>The purpose of the leaflets was not to avoid loss of civilian life. It was psychological warfare, aimed at convincing the Japanese that continuing was hopeless and they should surrender.
>>74590362
Maybe, that's probably why their country fucking kicks ass now.
Look what you did to Dresden and now Germany sucks, at least we bench-pressed them back on their feet just like the rest of you faggots who needed our help(not that you're grateful) but we can only work so many miracles.
Japan turned out based but we should have just saved the money and left Europe to crumble, you guys don't need it anyway.
>>74589766
booooooooo
Sorry.
>>74590357
That's cute, a Russian talking shit about propaganda being used to dehumanize
>>74590474
>continuing was hopeless and that they should surrender
my fucking point exactly. even with the leaflets in other cities, they didn't give a fuck. The first firebombing of Tokyo killed 100,000 people in a single day and they didn't flinch. They had brainwashed themselves into thinking that surrender was not only dishonorable more than anything else, but that the U.S. would execute the Emperor, kill all the men, and rape the women (which is what would've happened had the Soviets got to them; read about the Soviet rape of occupied Germany).
>>74588069
They weren't war crimes at all, and realistically America will never apologize (nor should it). Even the Japs I've talked to recognize it was necessary. Why would a country apologize for a necessary act?
No one expects apologies for the firebombings.
So fuck it. If anything, you're welcome Japs for making you an economic powerhouse and rebuilding your nation.
>>74588069
How many times a day do you post this same thread faggot
>>74590104
New York and Washington DC were both headquarters to a metric fuck ton of government agencies and military branches during WW2, they would have been an even more valid target for an enemy to attack than Hiroshima and Nagasaki were to the US. It still would have been a war crime though because they were civilian population centers first and logistical hubs second.
>>74590181
The B-29 was impervious to flack and fighter interception in 1945 and they were fucking aiming for the city center so what the fuck are you talking about, they missed their target of the Aioi Bridge by only a few hundred meters.
>>74588069
All war is crime, trying to sanitize it to 'war crimes' here and 'non-crimes' there is pointless. What would apologizing do? Most of the witnesses of those bombs are dead. All it would do is provide fresh controversy in an area which still hasn't forgotten the shadows of world war 2. Better to leave the dead resting.
>>74588069
make me
>>74590362
Yes, the US essentially made Japan into a new country, one that was democratic, free, peaceful, and economically successful. The process essentially took away from the Japanese control of their own country, but their quality of life today is arguably better than that of Americans.
But you're proving my point. You don't want an apology for the bombs, you want an apology for turning Japan into a democracy. Well fuck you, freedom-hating cunt. Japan is better that way.
>>74589143
"what're you lookin at smoothskin"
>>74590678
Nope, USSR never used propaganda to sway feelings or emotions with caricaturization, never!
>>74591034
At least you fucks were right about something, though I think this is a Serb poster
>>74590362
>Japan was better as the pre-war, imperialist assholes! Innocent Japs died as a result of U.S. retaliation, you dogs!#
Almost Neo-Nazi tier level of delusion
>>74588069
>the same brit
>posting the same shit
>hoping to get some hits
>but muhammad just blows him to bits
>>74590757
>look how good we are, we leafletted civilians before we nuked them, ughhh all they had to do was overthrow their totalitarian regime to avoid it
>>74590895
>and they were fucking aiming for the city center so what the fuck are you talking about,
In the quoted post, you referred to the bombing of a civilian center. Someone countered you, pointing out the fact that factories producing weapons and bombs were the actual target.
That was the point I was making. Today, we would just fire an ultra-precise missile into the fucking factory. Back in the 1940's, the destruction of a target required carpet bombing, meaning there was collateral damage due to the imprecise nature of our weapons systems.
The civvies were not the targets.
>>74590962
>>74591196
>Implying that turning them into a democracy and acknowledging the war crimes you committed are mutually exclusive
Come the fuck on.
>>74590474
Gotta love the lies.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/primary-resources/truman-leaflets/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_leaflet_propaganda#World_War_II
Also
>implying you can't avoid loss of civilian life while also convincing them that continuing was hopeless
Nigger are you retarded?
>>74588718
Start shit and get hit you fucking pussy, what about all the innocent colonists you fucks killed before we handed your ass to you and sent you crying back across the atlantic you cuck?
>>74590895
>they would have been an even more valid target for an enemy to attack than Hiroshima and Nagasaki
They were massive industrial centers and near the location of the first invasion sites of Japan. Stop applying your modern liberal view of something decided long before you were born. A decision made by hundreds of people.
Our involvement in rebuilding Japan turned into a regional superpower. What did your country do after WW1? You just managed to cause an even bigger war 20 decades later.
>>74590362
I'll add that not all countries who have been occupied continue to praise the people who used to occupy them. Japan is an independent country now, and its people have decided to be pro-American. Who are you to say that they've all been brainwashed by American-led education? For someone who claims to be defending the Japanese, you don't give their opinions much respect.
>>74588069
As Dr. Harold Agnew a man who helped make, drop, and film Hiroshimas bombing said. We have a saying in America. "Remember Pearl Harbor".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNxQpDcYHKU
Good day.
>>74591347
>implying that you can pick and choose the moral worth of acts in history and suck dicks in the present for the past
Nothing is ever going to undrop those bombs. Nothing will ever change the necessary strategic rationale for doing so. Counter history can ask what if, but they can only ask, never answer.
>>74589926
>America won
KEK
>>74591347
History is written by the victors. They should be thankful we helped them back on their feet, turned them into a fucking industrial powerhouse and kept them safe vs. Chinese and Soviet 'interests' during the cold war.
Fuck off with your feels, Limey. Get the plank out of your eye.
>>74591275
You mean
>all they had to do was evacuate the fucking named cities
>>74591275
>look at my Bosnian moral high ground
>genocided own people
fuck off
The enemies of Gandhi are calling us evil. Oh no.
>>74591347
>implying war crimes were committed
Good luck convincing the international community of that.
They were warned with leaflets. If an enemy force had complete and 100% control over our airspace, had already demonstrated their power, and were dropping leaflets saying 'gtfo before we destroy this shit' I'd probably listen.
>>74591571
Hey don't get angry at the Japanese, they actually aren't mad at us. It's Western revisionists who want this shit done. All of their arguments barely hold any water.
>>74591536
>useless meme country where journalists are murdered
>>74588699
Penis festivals. Wait...
>>74588690
they taught me in one of my college engineering classes that FDR knew that cutting off oil would bait Japan into attacking
in part II of that class, they taught me that Ford hated the Jews
no joke, there was a question on our final that literally asked "Who did Henry Ford mistrust?"
c. the jews
>>74591536
this whole post is so objectively wrong that it gave me cancer. nice going Croatia. go kill some of your countrymen now.
>>74591725
I'm not mad at them, I'm mad at this dumbfuck asking the US to apologize for something the Japanese don't want us to apologize for.
>build war factories in the middle of a civilian city expecting the civilians to serve as human shields
>don't allow the civilians to flee the city when Americans drop flier warning of the bombing in 2 days, even after one city had already been bombed
Yeah, there was a war crime here, but it's on the hands of the Japanese government.
Also, everyone involved is dead, so who the fuck cares. The Japs should just be happy we dropped bombs instead of parachuting niggers into their nation.
>>74591329
>The civvies were not the targets.
You are so fucking wrong but don't worry I will try to correct your ignorance.
You can very clearly see that the vast majority of the industry and military targets are to the East and South East out side the blast zone. Their target was Aioi bridge which was in the city center where all the people, hospitals and commercial buildings were. They missed their target by only a few hundred meters, they were aiming for civilians and they hit civilians.
>>74591844
Building the wall is a trap. You'll never be able to escape. Niggers will rape you to death.
>>74591347
I'm not saying the nukes were entirely justified. I'm saying that a formal apology is inappropriate given the context of anti-Western regimes trying to take advantage of America's past mistakes as propaganda. If America and Japan were the only countries on Earth, I would have no problem apoligizing, but the situation is more complex than that.
Not even the japanese bother asking for apologies for the nukes anymore. If they want to bring up war crimes, we can bring up a lot more shit that they did. But even so, it's fucking war.
>>74588069
the number of fucks i give is equal to the number of words i type after this period.
>>74592034
>precision bombing
>in world war 2
Le correction of ingornace obtained
>>74588069
fuck off you autist
wanna know what also was really fucking shitty?
pearl harbor.
wanna know what else was a war crime?
the death march. the rape of nanking. I could go on.
japan talked shit and got hit. besides, they're doing fucking awesome right now.
meanwhile you fuckers are in deep shit. maybe we need to nuke yurop too.
>>74592034
>aiming for the center of the city when you only have one bomb
>this is wrong
>>74588069
Hey inbreeder?
Is this all you have room for in your life, condemning the rightful use of those two bombs?
They saved millions of lives, both allied and Japanese.
And I feel very little pity for them, considering what they did during the course of their war.
Very little.
>>74589661
>reads post
>checks flag
kek
the potato rises, amirite
>>74588069
Shouldn't you be studying the Q'uran to be a good little cuck for your new Islamic overlords?
>>74592149
>muh red button in da basement
>>74592270
what the fuck do you mean?
I don't get your point.
fuck the nips, let them burn.
>>74588069
remember pearl harbor, you cuckold.
>>74588708
underated post
>>74592010
>The Japs should just be happy we dropped bombs
People of the world all Americans are not this dumb.
>>74589926
>america won
>america
arrogance at its finest
>>74588069
BRITAIN NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE FOR INDIA
>>74588069
None of us are about to apologize on behalf of dead people. Why do you non-japs keep posting these threads anyway?
>>74588069
I like how the responses of American anons actually reveal a deeply rooted sense of guilt.
>>74592356
Hey, don't get angry at the nips, they aren't the ones asking for an apology. It's marxists and revisionists who want to make the US look bad. Idiot who want to justify their own policies some how bringing this shit up. Idiotic people who just want to hate the US for the sake of hating it, but will be voting for Hilary.
>>74592476
Pajeet has a point
>>74590220
Don't start shit if you can't handle your enemies response.
The Germans and Japs learned this the hard way.
>>74592476
INDIA NEEDS TO APOLOGIZE FOR PAKISTAN
>>74590220
That was disgusting.
>>74592531
We all know it was awful, but none of us actually give a shit.
>>74592407
If you disagree with the man, tell him so. Don't try to evoke some pseudo-nationalistic peer pressure like a nu-male faggot.
>>74592137
Due to crosswind, the bomb missed the aiming point, the Aioi Bridge, by approximately 800 ft (240 m) and detonated directly over Shima Surgical Clinic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_bombings_of_Hiroshima_and_Nagasaki#Bombing
Their target was in the fucking city center and that is where they hit, they weren't targeting military and industry districts in the East or South, they were targeting the civilians in the city.
>>74592163
>Not aiming for the military targets on the outskirts of the city
>Committing a war crime and trying to justify it
Once again, neither the Japanese government or the people themselves want any sort of apology from the United States. Not only would this be seen as disrespectful, but they also know full well that the post war economy made them become and even more prosperous nation compared to what Hitler was offering. There is nothing to apologize for, and the Japanese do not wish to be insulted.
End of discussion.
>>74588069
>A War Crime
>>74592531
literally what
I've explained in several posts that there was literally no other alternative that would end with fewer lives being lost
fuck off Hans, go suck Isral's cock and sentence 90 year old men to prison for 70 year old crimes
>>74588069
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDUy0uzmaU4
There would probably be a million+ civillian suicide from a land invasion of Japan desu
>>74592476
>>74588465
>tfw no half melted radioactive daughteru
>>74592758
>the evil Americans decided to kill innocent people for no reason using the most expensive and complicated weapons that had ever been devised up to that point
Are you dumb, or just British?
>>74592695
ok so you also think japs should be happy that we atomic bombed them?
again, people of the world not all Americans are as dumb as these 2.
WHERE ARE MY REPARATIONS, SMOOTHSKIN?
>>74588069
[meanwhile, putin is launching full scale nuclear attack on usa]
>>74588630
They're lucky we didn't invade. Would have been 10x's the casualties
>>74588069
Look we had to make an example out of Japan.
They learned their lesson and are one of our best friends now.
If we had spanked the Islamic world likewise we wouldn't be getting mass culturally enriched every month.
If the streets of Saudia Arabia could be cleaned with windex this terrorism bullshit a rapefugee nonsense wouldn't be happening.
Words can solve problems, but words and nukes work better.
>>74592797
This.
Fucking imperials never knew when to give up: Honorable, but incredibly self-destructive.
>>74588069
>America needs to apologize for Hiroshima and Nagasaki
Nope. I'd order the same thing in Truman's place. Nips needed to be whipped and the bombs did the job.
>>74592913
Yes. Actually yes. They should be glad we didn't delay and do a land invasion instead. Something that would've actually been the genocide of the Japanese race.
>>74592913
I like how your typing proficiency dropped as soon as you were brought out of your comfort zone. It doesn't matter what my opinions are. The way that you challenged that poster was fundamentally wrong and you should refrain from acting like that in the future. Maybe even offer an apology :)))))).
I'll apologize as soon as i get done apologizing for slavery and the trail of tears.
>>74592758
you want answers? fine.
>the jap military embedded in the civie population
yeah. it wasn't all babies and fucking puppies.
>civies are just military personnel in disguise
the japanese would just walk into places and basically kidnap people into the army/navy.
>it was an experiment
yeah, the only nukes in wartime EVER were a fucking experiment.
>we didn't give a fuck
we had lost too many men, too many ships, and fucked up too many families to care.
we wanted those yellow slant eyed bastards dead no matter what they needed to take.
stop fucking bitching about it. can't change history. men smarter than you made this decision and it ended the war. calm the fuck down.
Without the nuclear bombs, we wouldn't have anime.
>>74589112
>Why Nuremberg trials then, leaf?
Six Gorillion
>>74588069
we apologized by helping rebuild. Just look at those cities today.
>>74589112
Because the JEws and america won.
VAE VICTIS.
>>74588069
After the Japanese apologize for Pearl Harbour.
Until then, fuck em.
>>74593213
>can't change history. men smarter than you made this decision and it ended the war. calm the fuck down.
You can apologize for it though, it was a war crime regardless of whether or not you think it was justified as "the lesser of two evils" and all war crimes should be apologized for, that is the point of this thread.
The nipponese are some of the most self-loathing people on the planet.
They probably still finger themselves giant american penis bomb because they're fucked up.
>>74588069
Talk shit, get hit and I say this as someone who admires Japan
>>74588069
We won, we will not apologize. The victor doesn't apologize to the defeated. That is the way of the world. You can either accept it or waste your time and energy hitting your head against an idealistic wall. I don't frankly care which you pick.
>>74590357
>The Charlottenbrücke, the bridge over the Havel to the old town of Spandau, was still standing and held by Hitler Youth detachments.
>In heavy rain and under artillery fire from the 47th Army, the armored vehicles charged across, followed by a ragged crowd of soldiers and civilians.
>The slaughter was appalling.
>'There was blood everywhere and trucks were exploding,' one of the escapers recounted.
>Self-propelled army flak vehicles with quadruple 20mm guns gave covering fire from the eastern bank to keep Soviet heads down, and during this frantic firing for up to a minute, another wave of civilians and soldiers surged across to hide in the ruined houses opposite. The slow and the lame were caught in the open by Soviet guns.
>As well as wave after wave of people on foot, trucks, cars and motorcycles also crossed, running over bodies already crushed by the tracks of armored vehicles.
>Although the massacre at the bridge was horrific, the sheer weight of German numbers forced the Soviet troops back from the river bank. But Soviet machine guns in the tower of the Spandau town hall continued to cause heavy losses.
>Nobody knows how many died in these attempts to escape Soviet captivity.
russia you have literally no right to speak on this
>>74593399
Are you guys going to apologize for Dresden? Should we apologize for Tokyo, too?
>>74593030
>This
Had we invaded, the Japanese would be a shell of what they are now.
>>74593399
yeah, sure.
once you apologize for dresden and they apologize for pearl we can talk.
what would an apology do anyway?
we've already helped japan and we fucking love them, they're a great ally.
apologies are for cucks and pussies who can't accept the nature of war.
>>74593094
are you sure you're not a kike? American and japanese lives mean nothing to you. they are just cannon fodder
>>74593123
Mrs. Robinson can i stay after school to fix all my grammar mistakes?
>>74588069
>picks fight
>sad when BTFO
no way ahmed, you need to apologize for ruining the west
>>74593705
Of course nothing else in that post matters to you. You skimmed through the first sentence and then dropped it there as soon as you felt confident you could make the appeal that I'm just a grammar snob. If the truth doesn't matter to you, then why are you posting here? It's obvious that you're new, but you don't have to be a fag about it.
>>74593705
what will an apology do?
we're already allies with japan. we already trade with them. we love those nip bastards.
there is fuck all an apology would do.
fuck, they should be apologizing to us and china. their war crimes were 10x the allies'.
Oh look it's this thread again.
We disavow, ok?
>>74593542
>Are you guys going to apologize for Dresden?
I hope so, it was a war crime and I am frankly ashamed that no previous British government has apologised for it.
>Should we apologize for Tokyo, too?
Yes, it was also a deliberate targeting of a civilian population center as apposed to military or industrial targets so it too was a war crime.
>>74593935
but tokyo killed more people in infinitely worse ways
>>74588561
Make America THIS great again.
>>74593935
You just have a very loose definition of "war crime", then, and shouldn't expect your opinions on war to be valued.
>>74593079
most of the civilians were doing it were doing it out of fear of rape, torture and murder by Americans
>>74593862
you're the fag that cares about perfect grammar on the internet and i'd rather be called new instead of bragging how long i've been on 4chan
>>74593935
do you not understand that civilian populations are factory workers and soldiers waiting to happen?
by killing civilians, you are fucking hurting military targets.
besides, it was total war. we didn't give an unholy fuck.
should the germans apologize for mustard gas in WW1 too?
>>74593705
Let me ask you, do you think American and Japanese lives mean nothing? Look at Iwo Jima and Okinawa. We literally had to eradicate every Japanese person on each island because they wouldn't give up. These people were fucking fanatics that would give up their lives if it meant taking out an American soldier. They were planning on using children as suicide bombers and frontliners. A land invasion would've been much, much worse than two nukes.
>>74593905
all i said was it's ridiculous to say japs should be happy we bombed them
but no it's too late for an apology. we've both moved on
>>74594070
And so they still would've killed themselves.
>>74588465
damn I can't even imagine how the cameraman looks
Okay, let us say that I go back in time and somehow stop the US from bombing Japan.
Japan took one bomb and was told to stop, didn't, so we dropped another.
Instead we just send our troops over there, kill the majority of the civilians in all of Japan, and firebomb every single military base.
No more Japan, it's now just some US dominated pacific island. They're so far up our ass they get to vote for President.
SORRY FOR NUKING YOU
>>74588069
>This thread again
Does this britcuck ever stop doing daily threads about thse?
>>74594080
Typing properly makes your arguments more effective. Every error you make in typing is a logical leap for the reader to follow and thereby a social appeal for them to look past your errors. People are always going to be more inclined to agree with the points they can understand over the points they can't. It's the difference between a bad plan and no plan at all. Spending more time here will teach you that. Poor typing is a liability and an obstacle that you need to surmount if you want to be taken seriously. You want people to look at your posts and see your arguments, not your weaknesses.
>>74594148
it's modern war. you can't expect both sides to form 2 frontlines and march toward each other anymore
it used to be honorable to die in war. btw im not arguing against American WWII strategy
>>74588069
Those fucking manequins made me lol.
>not shure why
>>74594512
well, the japanese military junta could have just not radicalized nearly the entire population of japan, but who am i kidding, it's all the white man's fault, amirite?
>>74588069
This thread again. Have you nothing to do in united Pakistan that you need to shitpost here?
>>74594512
The issue was that they were sending children to their deaths and the fact that we would of had to kill every Japanese person in Japan before they would quit.
>>74588069
>MFW I went to that museum in Hiroshima
I was 9 years old and living in Japan with my family because my dad was in the Marines and stationed in Iwakuni. Now that I look back at it, all the Japs gave us the worst looks walking around in there. It felt like a serial killer showing up at a crime scene and telling everyone "no no no you got it all wrong I killed the husband over here and fucked the wife right there".
>>74594722
Sure, just retreat from the discussion. You'll save your ego today and leave your problems for tomorrow.
>>74594328
>Instead we just send our troops over there, kill the majority of the civilians in all of Japan
I like how murrikans don't think they could have a ~conditional~ surrender. It just doesn't occur to you burgers, you must have the everything even if you have to kill millions to have your candy.
>>74594639
>>74594737
well how humane of us. that was the toughest red pill to swallow
>>74594874
except for the fact that a japanese condition surrender really wasn't a surrender at all if we followed their terms
>>74594821
discussion about why i need to improve my grammar lol
>>74588069
Maybe we should've nuked you guys instead.
He's posted it again, the absolute madman!
>>74588465
The United States is STILL giving away Purple Hearts originally created for the invasion of Japan. Fuck those Nips. It should have been a lot worse.
Fuck with the best, die like the rest.
>>74594818
your first mistake was talking about it at all in japan as an american
