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>Russia
>still white in 10 years

http://www.sputniknews.com/russia/20100602/159274568.html
>Experts estimate that the Russian population will decline by 20 million by 2025. Consequently, we will have to bring in nearly 35 million immigrant workers,” said ANKOR-Russia director Anna Silina during a videoconference with company representatives in various Russian regions.

In other words, they have to import third worlders just like Europe, but in much much higher numbers.
And judging by the birth rates, there's going to be a huge influx of Turk and Mongol internal immigration to Western Russia for work

More on potential demographic crisis

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/russian-federation/2015-07-08/moscows-baby-bust
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>>74564066
>Russia
>White
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It's going to be Genghis Khan all over again :^)

Stormfag slavaboos BTFO
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>Consequently, we will have to bring in nearly 35 million immigrant workers
>we will have to bring in nearly 35 million immigrant workers
>have to bring in nearly 35 million immigrant workers
>have to bring in nearly 35 million
>have to

But why?
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Russia will collapse in our lifetime.
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>>74564443
Oy vey, think of the children.
You don't want to let poor Vlad Mustafa and his muslim family starve, do you?
Let them in without any passport
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How many refugee welcome flags you see there?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2381878/How-Russia-deals-illegal-immigrants.html
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>>74564443
Why can't they just conquer Ukraine for 40 million more?
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memes get real, what a time to be alive
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>>74564443

Mostly for economic reasons. You see debt needs to be serviced.
For that, companies need to expand and make profit. Now since you can only improve efficiency to a certain extent, you have to hire more people.
Also our welfare states are ponzi schemes requiring a ever growing number of people paying into the system just to keep the shitshow going.
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>>74564066

holy shit man why is everyone so hell bent on importing shitskins. why can't anyone just be content with having less people on this planet
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>>74564066

Confirmed, we are as fucked as the rest of Europe.

Low birth rates + no areas untouched by alien migration = lose.

It's inevitable

Burn it all down.
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The Russian demographic breakdown by age says they have roughly 25 million people who are over 55 which are those likely to die within 20 years which is 28% of the population. This is pretty standard across most Western countries as well and their fertility rate is also Western tier.

But, they have more shitskins in Russia already and they are locked in a death struggle with the West. So they will be forced to replace their lost population from somewhere or die. Of course replacing it with shitskins means death anyway so it doesn't really matter.
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>>74564066

They can't even use the inequality symbols right in the legend. Stupid graphic.
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>>74564066
>2010

You tried.
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>>74565009

Silly goyim, more people = more consumers = more money!
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>>74565234

But what if the short-term overall economic gains made from the mass importation of immigrants doesn't actually translate to long-term economic gains on an individual level, and jeopardizes things like quality of life, safety, and happiness?
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>>74564066
>implying russia ever was a white country.
Cucked by mongols since 13th century.
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>>74565166

yeah that's because white people have enough brains to know not to pump out 5-6 kids in modern society
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The majority of Russias immigrants are ethnically Russian though
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thats an article from 2010

pic related
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>Russia
>White
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Putin will save Russia
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>>74565533

What?
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>>74566102
>1.4 million ethnic Russians repatriated to their homeland in 2014

If I remember correctly like 70% of the immigrants are ethnic Russians mainly from the former Soviet Republics
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>>74564603
same with the US
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>>74565713
Look at OP's pic

Birth rates increase where shitskins live(Tuva, Yakutia, Chechenya)
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>>74565009
Because shitskins usually come from poor shitholes, and will give cheap labor
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>>74566980
yeah mostly some desolate mongolian provinces and one or two tiny mudshit places. you think those have much impact on the overall increasing birth rates of Russia?

Russia is up to like 1,8 children per family and it's increasing.
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>>74564603
V4 confirmed for the last men standing.
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>>74565533
But that's not the case by 2025
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>>74564066
third worlders don't even want to live in Hungary, you think they'll want to move to Siberia?
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>>74567516
their brown immigrants come from the stans
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>>74567403
you won't be. Russia is a lot bigger than all of V4 countries put together and is not an EU/US lackey. If they collapse, you'll have had collapsed decades before.
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>>74567403
>V4
Eastern European circlejerk with no justification for existence.
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>>74567412
Please oh great one tell me who wins the Super Bowl next year
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>>74565147
You fought for this in WW2. You fought for the jews, for multiculturalism, for cultural enrichment.

Will you still have that victory parade when the muds have taken over Russia?
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>>74564066
Russia's population is stabilising. We will be fine. Go shill somewhere else.
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>>74567730

technically for them it was either fight or be exterminated
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>>74566980
Tuva and Yakutia are Asians, not shitskins
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Hahaha, not even /pol/s fairy tail wonderland Russia is save.
The future is brown, the future is Muslim and we will have to deal with it.
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>>74565393

All part of the plan Goy.

Destabilize, breed fear, then will full support of the population increase the authoritarian Police State for their own "protection".

Pacify though fear, force and propaganda.
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>>74565420
Wonderful tales, lol. Mongols never lived in our cities. And our principalities were not part of Mongolia, as a state.
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For fucks sake Russia should be a totalitarian police state. How fucking hard is it to just fucking force white women to start breeding for fucks sake.
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>Western Europe turns into a muslim shithole
>Eastern Europe turns into a shithole
>Europeans migrate to the new world in mass quantities
>All of the Americas turn white

Come home white man. Theres a bunda on every doorstep waiting.
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>>74567859
Mongol meme was just spread by Germanfags. The Mongols used to demand tribute, they were not interested in settling down.
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>>74567892
>Russia should be a totalitarian police state
You wot mate? It is already.
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>>74567809
See: >>74567759

Fuck off you dumb Austrian retard.
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>>74567949

That's what I'm saying
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>>74567949
according to our media, so are you. i don't put too much weight on it
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>>74567995
Sorry bro, I'm still half asleep here.
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>>74568023
And that's true, and the funny thing is that our current government is beloved by a lot poles that come here - maybe they just enjoy constantly getting fucked in the ass without a lube.
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>>74567298
Nigger, their birthrates increased to that only recently(the irrelevant mongol shitholes are what actually drag up that birthrate lmao)

For almost 20 years, they have had a population decline, and a huge chunk of Russia's population will be dead/retired by 2025, reason why one of the biggest Russian medias address this issue with labor shortages.

Few in Europe wants to move to Russia for work, while stans will definitely immigrate for work.
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>>74567958

>Russian director Anna Silina says it
>hurr it's bullshit, we're not going to import brown people, OP is a shill

dude seriously?
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>>74564066
>6 years old article
Nice try goy.
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>>74567759
op btfo
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>>74564066

>20 million
>in 9 years

There are people taking this seriously. It's only declined by around 5 million since 1991, and has recently stabilised. Are there really that many geriatric cunts who are going to peg it in 9 years?
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>>74567800
/pol/tards will still be triggered when "SAVIOUR OF WHITE RACE" turns mongol
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>>74568278
She is just part of some NGO. Nothing to do with government. Google her name, you get nothing. She is nobody. Also article is 6 years old.
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>>74565214
It's 2012, you illiterate dumbass
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>>74568278
Most soviet stans are whiter than average american city.
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>>74568388
/thread
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>>74567928

Mongol is just confused with Finnic which most ethnic Russians very much are.
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>>74567928
I'm saying about it. Our kings were dependent on the Mongol rulers, but we were separate nations, with our own laws, dynasty, army, territory, religion and they didn't live in our cities.
If they think that we are Mongols simply because our rulers have become addicted to the Mongol rulers, whether this means that the Germans - a half-Russian (East Germany), half-Americans, lol?
And the Poles, Finns, Hungarians, czechs, lithuanians and other - they are all the "mongols" too, because we conquered them in due time.
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Even Putin's pet project Valdai Discussion Club says they need more immigrants

http://valdaiclub.com/opinion/highlights/russia_needs_more_immigrants/
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>>74568420
Do you think they believe what they peddle or they're scamming western funders for shekels?
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>>74568466
no, it says 2010 you imbecile
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>>74568599
Maybe both, who knows.
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>>74564066
W E W
E
W

I didn't know Norwegians were shitposters
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>>74567759
There's a fucking 20 year gap with negative birthrates.
That's really not good for a country with the population of Russia, relying on oil
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>>74568864
>There's a fucking 20 year gap with negative birthrates.
Yeah well, this is what happens when we listen to westerners. You guys should just shut your mouths and concentrate on going extinct.
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>>74568502
>white is now skin color

So Italians are niggers then
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>>74568778

check the official Russian census data for yourself

http://www.gks.ru/dbscripts/cbsd/dbinet.cgi?pl=2415002

data in the first table in this article is official data pulled off russian govt website:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_subjects_of_Russia_by_total_fertility_rate

sort 2014 from high to low and you'll see that the only regions with high birthrate are muslim and turkic
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>>74568953

White is skin color objectively. What did you think it was the rate of cucks per capita?
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>>74569177
>White is skin color objectively. What did you think it was the rate of cucks per capita?

What difference, at this point, does it make?
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>>74568922
Sweden and Britain would face similar demographic crisis, but resorted to importing shitskins.

Take into account that your age expectancy is rather low, that your population has been on a steady decline for over 20 years, and only now has a slight increase in population, you're not likely to have an adequate labor force in 10-20 years.

You already got alot of shitskins in your country, and it's not unlikely that they will move to Moscow for work
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>>74564066
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>>74569177
So Asians are white then

wew lad
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>>74569350
>Take into account that your age expectancy is rather low
Which is actually helpful. You guys need imports of labor because you have pensioners to pay for until they are 80.

>you're not likely to have an adequate labor force in 10-20 years.
Labor force is fine. If we need more workers we will just annex something like we did Crimea. Added 2 million workers or so.

>You already got alot of shitskins in your country
By Russian standard pic related is a shitskin.

Stop concerning yourself with us, when Oslo is filled to the brim with Iraqis.
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>>74569439

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_people

You're right only good Nordic cuckolds with no achievements or historical relevance are white.
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>>74564066
According to which experts? Russia has large influx of unemployed young slavs seeking work, shitloads of ukies and other non-russian slavs looking for work, and specific reagons for non-slavic non-whites like tartars and causoids. It's a fairly culturally segregated without all the fear of racism or discrimination too, like for example all the muslims and such generally stick to muslim regions.
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>>74569171
if you also weren't autistic you would see that the birthrate trend is positive for almost all regions. there were only a few that had downward trends, and most of them (at least the ones I noticed) were turkic/muslim, like chechnya.

so yes, atm muslims have a higher birthrate but i think its gonna stabilize out.

honestly, it looks like the russians will be fine
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>>74566568

No, man they are from -stans countries. And we have fuckloads of Ukrainian gasterbeiters as well after the latest ukranian fucked up thing.
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>>74569574
>Which is actually helpful. You guys need imports of labor because you have pensioners to pay for until they are 80.

look at the pic nigger. A huge chunk of the Russian population is above 40 up to
In 10-20 years, they will be pensioners, and what is a population that is much smaller than Russia's current workforce

Unless the birthrates for West Russians increase to over 3, you're going to turn mongol again

>Labor force is fine. If we need more workers we will just annex something like we did Crimea. Added 2 million workers or so.
If your army manage to sustain the population decrease lmao
You're not going to invade any White land anymore kek

>By Russian standard pic related is a shitskin.
Yes, filthy chechens are shitskins

>Stop concerning yourself with us, when Oslo is filled to the brim with Iraqis.
Atleast we are still 90% white unlike you lmao
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>>74570620
>In 10-20 years, they will be pensioners, and what is a population that is much smaller than Russia's current workforce
By that time most of them will die off.

>Unless the birthrates for West Russians increase to over 3, you're going to turn mongol again
I think we will be fine. Even the East is mainly Russian.

>f your army manage to sustain the population decrease lmao
150 million or so people, it will be fine.

>You're not going to invade any White land anymore kek
There is no white land west of Poland, you are all just mixed at this point.

>Atleast we are still 90% white unlike you lmao
You are 85%. And when you look at western European Youth almost a majotity are non-white. In places like Germany and Sweden a majority of youth are non-white.
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>>74570620
Hey retard, Russia has a large population of unemployed young men. Many foreigners from other slavic countries, especially Ukraine, also want to work in Russia. Where are you getting idea that in scenario where Russia might need to import workers that it would means shitskins and not other slavs?

Just shut the fuck you goddamn armchair philosopher.
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>>74564735
How about North Korea instead. 2 birds with 1 stone.
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>>74564735
They got a fuckton of refugees from Ukraine, I think at least several hundreds of thousands.

Putin should just stop screwing around and form the Eurasian Union already.
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>>74571629
800,000 Ukrainians came since the crisis started there last time I checked the number.
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>>74570969
>By that time most of them will die off.
And a workforce that is much smaller than the current one.

>I think we will be fine. Even the East is mainly Russian.
But West suffers from low birth rates aswell, Ivan

>150 million or so people, it will be fine.
Conscription has decreased the last years.
The Russian army is a cold war tier rustheap as of now, with alot of vaporware in parades

>There is no white land west of Poland, you are all just mixed at this point.

I don't think anything bordering you in Europe is as incompetent to not even resist an annexation like the dumb Ukros in Crimea.


>You are 85%. And when you look at western European Youth almost a majotity are non-white. In places like Germany and Sweden a majority of youth are non-white.

Most of our non-norwegian population are Samis, Finns, Poles and Swedes. It's whiter :^)


Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against Russians, but some of you have the kind of patriotism that sometimes go beyond the rational mind(far from as bad as Serbs though) and act like there's no internal problems in Russia compared to the West, and slavaboos stormfags on /pol/ act like Putin is going to descend from Heaven and kill all nonwhites in their country tomorrow
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>>74571970
>But West suffers from low birth rates aswell, Ivan
Meant East
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>>74564443

yfw robots are the only thing that can save the white race.
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I think russia need stronk nationalist leader like in tom clansy books.
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>>74571970
>And a workforce that is much smaller than the current one.
What is your point here? Economy is in decline. We don't need more workers.

>But West suffers from low birth rates aswell, Ivan
The East does ok. Picture related.

>Conscription has decreased the last years.
Because modern armies do not need to be that large.

>The Russian army is a cold war tier rustheap
Spending on new weapons, development and training is at an all time high since the end of the Soviet Union.

>I don't think anything bordering you in Europe is as incompetent to not even resist an annexation like the dumb Ukros in Crimea.
Belarus will probably be annexed when Lukashenko dies.

>Most of our non-norwegian population are Samis, Finns, Poles and Swedes. It's whiter :^)
Nice meme. Iraqis and Afghans are some of your biggest minorities.

>and act like there's no internal problems in Russia compared to the West
Of course there is, you are just picking the most retarded issue to talk about when Russian birthrates are climbing back up. Laws are beginning to restrict abortion, culture is becoming a bit moire conservative. Things will be fine. Our issues are with corruption and the economy. Also preventing American liberalism spreading here.
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>>74569574

is that his new waifu he bought from Putin?
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>>74572897
Your percentage is wrong by the way Finn.
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>>74572356
>What is your point here? Economy is in decline. We don't need more workers.
Except to sustain growth, more workers are required.

>The East does ok. Picture related.

Meant East. It's slightly higher than West

>Because modern armies do not need to be that large.
This is true, but Russian army is barely big enough incase of a NATO invasion. But this will never happen though.

>Spending on new weapons, development and training is at an all time high since the end of the Soviet Union.
Your budget/GDP isn't as high as it was during USSR. The decline in oil prices has been responsible in budget cuts. Pak Fa's initial production was cut all the way down to 12

>Belarus will probably be annexed when Lukashenko dies.

I never understood why Belaruse existed to begin with

>Nice meme. Iraqis and Afghans are some of your biggest minorities.
Over half of our immigrant population consists of West Europeans and some East Europeans(Poles, Russians and Ukrainians). This rate does not count the naturalized European immigrants.
Sure Oslo is filled with shitskins, but that's basically any large city in Europe.

>Of course there is, you are just picking the most retarded issue to talk about when Russian birthrates are climbing back up.

It's just a cheeky bantz m8, calm down
It's mostly to bait /pol/tards who shill for Russia worse than Russians themselves, and claiming it to be some sort of a savior of the white race
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>>74573098

I doubt that. Pew is much more solid than third world country officals with their skewed data.
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>>74564066
>Russia
>White
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>>74567800
Yellow, brown. Doesn't matter. They're just as bad.
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>>74573731
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>>74573816
arr rook same desu
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>>74573816
when has it become normal to speak utter nonsense and get no sanctioning reaction at all?
The only thing not white are your braincells, they turned brown from all the shit in there you moron
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>>74573731
>Except to sustain growth
kek, as I said, our economy is in decline. A bigger worry is finding jobs for people we ready have, never mind bringing in more workers.

>Your budget/GDP isn't as high as it was during USSR
Obviously. We are not as large or as strong as the USSR.

>I never understood why Belaruse existed to begin with
All Soviet Republics just got independence when the USSR ended. It was not really logical.
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>>74574067

Russians are NOT white. Period. And neither are most Germans those days, outside of Bavaria and Holstein.
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>>74574351
t. Mexico
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>>74566980
>Tuva
>Shitskins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx8hrhBZJ98
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>>74564443
They don't have too, and neither does Europe. Who cares if there are fewer people. It will be a boom to the economy, and lower unemployment, with less losers on welfare.
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Good Ukraine is ultra poor and no shitskin go here.
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>>74564066
everyone who tries to run a country like a company should be executed right away, no questions asked
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>>74574383
hes right though. even the japanese call you "the niggers of the white"
im not even kidding, though you probably already know. theyre your fucking neighbors after all
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>>74574428
That's five min out of Helsinki.
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>>74564066
fykc rusia
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>>74574586
>Taking the Japanese seriously
They are just butthurt that they were cucked out of the Kuril islands, Sakhalin, Korea, and Manchuria by the Soviet Union.
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>>74574383

We don't claim to be white because we ain't. And neither are you.
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>>74564066
>article from 2010
We are growing in population right now. We also fixed the population problem by having millions of russian speaking Ukrainians move here after start of Ukr events.
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>>74567928

Fuck off slav shill.
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>>74574760
I really want to annex Belarus. I wish Lukashenko would die already.
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>>74564066
>02.06.2010
Weak bait. Might as well post estimates from 90s when we were dying at 1m+ per year.
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>>74574586
japs don't have a single friend among all their neighbors. ever wonder why that is?
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>>74575273
Your population growth is no more than 20k these years. That's tiny for a nation with a population of around 150 million with shitty demographics
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I don't understand why western governments don't just start state run breeding programs. It could be a career path for women who don't want a traditional job. You have the kid and get paid about 20k then the state takes care of it from there or someone can adopt it. Would be cheaper than importing shitskins
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I never understood why EVERY government of a country with declining birthrates decides to import fucking mudshits. Malaysia has proven that its extremely easy to manipulate your citizens birthrates through propaganda and tax incentives.

The only possible answer is that every one if these governments wants to end their own whiteness. What a disgusting, suicidal race whites are.
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>>74575281

To be fair most of asian countries are pretty shit tier. Even hong kong hates rest of the china. And they have super kawaii tomodachi USA always.
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