How do flat earthers account for the fact that you can travel from point a to point b by going around the earth? Is it like pac man and you just end up teleporting to the other side of the screen when you reach the edge?
>>74543040
Clearly just travel around the edge you retard
>>74543068
Can't tell if reading comprehension or just typical Australian shit posting
>>74543040
The outer rim is an ice wall, we know this rim of ice as the North and South polar ice caps. Clearly globalist propaganda has clouded your thinking.
>>74543040
They believe no ever did exactly that, since it's impossible.
>>74543129
You should account for the fact that making a flat earth thread will get you 95% shitposts
>>74543040
Why did you waste your time posting this?
>>74543513
I saw a post about the flat earth conspiracy and I genuinely wondered how they would account for this.
>>74543406
what would any organization gain from supressing tons of documentation in order to trick humans into thinking the earth was round? what benefit is that to anyone?
>>74543040
> How do flat earthers account for the fact that you can travel from point a to point b by going around the earth?
It's something to do with being mentally deficient. Perhaps too much lead or mercury in their diet. Foetal alcohol syndrome. Something like that.
>mfw in a few years affordable orbital travel becomes real
flatters on suicide watch
>>74543040
Everyone knows our realm is an infinite plane, the only reason it appears rounded is because the mortal eye cannot perceive infinity.
>>74543040
>Is it like pac man and you just end up teleporting to the other side of the screen when you reach the edge?
You just answered your own question faggot.
>>74543040
Stop pretending that anyone cares about flat earth, It's >>>/X/ stuff.
>>74543040
An even better question: if earth is flat, then how does the global day/night cycle work?
>>74543788
a disc can rotate about an axis much like a sphere can
the flat earth theory was designed to be a "decoy" theory to discredit real conspiracies by using people who are very egotistical and have a skewed perception of reality that they cannot comprehend a "round" earth. even though there is many many proofs
>>74543916
>aussies
The "Flat Earth" is more like a globe that has been flattened from the top rather than a traditional flat map. Imagine a globe that had been peeled up from the bottom until it could lay down flat on a desk.
It still doesn't make any sense, but there you go.
>>74543040
I believe they usually claim that there is some sort of non-euclidean geometry, which is why when you believe you are traveling on a straight geodesic path with respect to the sphere, you are actually traveling on these curved paths which make it near impossible to reach the south pole which is where they claim the earth ends.
Like many conspiracy theories, they use math that is far beyond the average joe (or the average follower of the conspiracy theory), in this case differential geometry, to explain what would be considered obvious flaws and shortcomings of their conspiracy theory. This means that when someone attempts to disprove their theory they can always claim that person doesn't understand the underlying math. A similar but somewhat more serious example of this is the physics paper 'An exceptionally simple theory of everything' which has generated something of a cult following.
>>74543612
The belief in the globe suppresses the creator, the globe makes man irrelevant, a tiny speck of dust in an infinite universe.
The truth of humanity living on a purpose built construction with everything provided destroys that myth and weakens anyone's position should they be trying to enslave said population.
Not that a small percentage of people belonging to a certain religious and racial sect basically control "global finance".
>>74544295
>is more like a globe that has been flattened from the top rather than a traditional flat map
So it's an ellips then
Which is what fucking Earth is imagined as.
Earth is not a perfect sphere, it's an ellipsoid.
How fucking dense are you, USA?
>>74543916
That's true, but the sun would be still up on the whole side. Yet, the US is clearly in night when the other side of the world is in the day.
>>74544518
>>74544295
Flat earthers don't believe this though, they think everything is on the "top" side.
I'll give a serious answer.
The equator line forms a circle around the middle of the earth, if you travelled east constantly in a flat earth you would go around this circle as a compass uses poles to dictate position.
The day/night cycle is explained by a supposed spotlight sun that rotates around the earth. The moon and sun are said to be the same size.
What I did find interesting about this theory is that the Bible implies the moon and stars exist within a firmament of waters. It is scientifically possible to create a glowing star in water by using soundwaves. They claim that is the explanation behind the sun being created when God spoke "let there be light"
It is truly saddening to see all of these brainwashed round earth shills in this thread, they never seem to grasp the truth of the flat earth, even when they are continuously getting BTFO in every single argument.
>>74544732
I always wondered why your flag looks like an australian one. Now I know why.
>>74543040
Simples.
>>74544648
> Yet, the US is clearly in night when the other side of the world is in the day.
jewish LIES
Antarctica is the edge you retard. you ever see one of those maps with the north pole in the middle and everything else expanding out from there? thats how the earth really looks from space. Antarctica isn't a continent, its our cage
If the earth is completely flat why a ship sailing away from the shore disappear bottom-top? If it's really flat it should fade equally and that is not the case.
>>74544835
>>74544938
like this
>>74544864
>>74544938
>Antarctica isn't a continent, its our cage
Do you live back in XII century? Do you not know of a miraculous humanity creation called "airplane"?
Do you want me to enlighten you?
Like nigga just fly over it.
>>74544967
It is just an illusion caused by distance and perception.
hello yes i am pacman
>>74543040
>Flat earthers
Don't exist, it's shills trying to make the right wing look bonkers.
>>74543040
Have you ever been above artic poles you piece of shit ?
>>74545056
protip, there are Z E R O flights over Antarctica. look it up
>>74544835
just stretch my antartica up
>>74545040
timezones are complete jewish fabrication
it's invented to enable certain market strategies around the world in order to maximise profits
>>74545247
>look it up
Ok. Now what, smartpants?
>>74545145
>this
</thread>
>>74545301
>timezones are complete jewish fabrication
Indeed, they are a lie.
>>74545301
Where is the sun in the sky where you live?
Daily reminder that the Flat Earth Theory is a 15 million dollar tax-payer-funded psyop to discredit right-wingers.
>>74545393
above me
>>74543040
then why did columbus not arrive in India? Checkmate atheists
if you want 100% proof of a flat earth look into "southern hemi"sphere" " flight paths
most notably auckland to buenos aires
>>74543629
Artificial memories, they'll sedate and condition you into believing that you went into space when really you never left the hotel.
>>74545490
See it's below me where I live. You are below me.
>>74543788
the sun rises in the east, goes over the world, sinks on the west side of the edge. As we all know, light travels only fractionally faster through air than honey flows, and so all people on earth perceive the sun to be at a different place all together.
>>74545541
>that pic
Trump will make america big again
You go from point a to b by drawing a big circle. Circle is so big that you feel like you are following a line.
Nobody is teleporting from sides. Government tells airplane companies to stay clear off the edges.
>>74545765
shut up ghost im pacman
>>74545676
Then how come Alaska is only dark half the year instead of the whole year?
>>74545569
Get your ass to mars
>>74545313
>no routes ever actually go over the "pole"
Try again you raging faggot.
>>74545676
>As we all know, light travels only fractionally faster through air than honey flows
This thread is worrying.
>>74543040
>the earth is a buttplug
>earth will never make your asshole gape 20,000 miles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD4rc8idyik
I hope you have a couple hours to kill.
>>74545931
>paid NASA shill
pay no mind my flatbros
>>74546058
Skip to about 1:50:00 for some interesting animations.
>>74546046
Can't you tell trolling by the letters?
Fuck off CIA disinfo shill.
It's even worse because OP is pretending to not be a flat earth faggot and yet he's starting a thread on this slide garbage.
>>74546111
Are you retarded? I was defending the flat earth theory you autistic neckbeard.
>>74546160
yeah sure. your autism actually helps discredit the flat earth
>>74546160
>Defends flat earth
>Calls someone retarded
k
>>74544835
>>74544938
and yet planes fly arcs of great circles between Australia and south America, which makes no sense in your image.
>>74543643
>infinite plane
There are maps of the earth's surface and you can actually go to those places depicted on maps. I have tried it myself and so far the maps have always been correct.
Also, centripetal force would force things to coalesce in to a disk. Why would "space dust" just form a spheroid if it has constant rotational force?
>>74546131
It's maybe not this thread itself, but the fact that the Flat Earth Society exist.
http://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/
It's doubtful to think that everyone on that site is there to troll.
>>74545541
>most notably auckland to buenos aires
An arc of a great circle? The path of least distance on a sphere?
>>74546244
Disprove it then.
>>74543040
Im assuming they are poor and have never traveled.They don't believe in pictures from space so they would have to see the world first hand to believe its not flat.
>>74546355
Southern hemisphere flights don't take 2x longer than northern hemisphere ones.
>>74546258
Let me tell you as a Geographer that maps are lying, deceitful, bastardly things and that it certainly wouldn't be difficult at all to make a accurate map of a disc world look like that of a spherical one. Certainly not if you pretend that you have to build all kinds of inacuracies into it because you can't reasonably project a sphere onto a 2D plane.
>>74546325
the flight path is an arc to give the illusion you are on a globe earth
if you map it on the real flat earth map the time it takes to travel between the locations makes more sense
>>74546465
>implying all planes fly at the same speed
>implying that all flight paths take the most direct route
>>74543406
hahaha, proper australia
>>74546506
But we have globes from hundreds of years ago
>>74546558
No it doesn't you nigger, on your flat earth Auckland to BA is like 3x further than London to LA, yet the first flight is 12 hours long and the second 11 hours somehow and not 4.
Do the planes all slow down in the northern hemisphere or something?
>>74546580
So they have extra special supersonic planes for the southern hemisphere then?
You guys are fucking bonkers
>>74544835
this is just earth from different angle and then making it 2D map.
if you going to fold this into 3D it's just going to be normal round earth with antrtica at the south pole.
>>74546580
>implying he didn't mean 2x longer on a same airplane model, flying on the same speed
really, flat earth is as retarded as letting muslims in your country.
ITT: people getting trolled in a classic, easy way
Everyone is also forgetting that on trans-oceanic flight paths, aircraft try to stay over land as long as possible, that way, if there's and emergency, the plane can (hopefully) land at a nearby airport. It might take longer, but it's safer.
>>74545313
thanks for proving me right retard
>>74546355
Explain this.
>>74545765
this
>>74546676
how dense are you?
this photo shows the chicago skyline from 52 miles away there should be over 1800 feet of curvature
globers BTFO
>>74546676
Yes, they have supersonic planes for the southern hemisphere.
Actually, planes fly slower in the northern hemisphere. If you've ever actually flown outside of the UK, you can watch the airspeed of the plane you're flying in. From my experience, the plane usually flies around 250-350 miles an hour. Commercial airliners have the capabilities of flying more than twice that speed.
>>74546506
That's funny, I'm actually a Geographer myself. You're right, I'm not saying that you can't tweak maps to depict nonsense. The burger I quoted said
>infinite plane
>infinite
Maps cannot show infinite areas. Nothing to do with Geography
>>74546862
>ignore my points and just bring up something else
Damage control.
>What is atmospheric refraction and a fata morgana
>>74546890
I flew to Iceland and the plane flew 850km/h, at its designed flight cruising speed. Or are you now saying that the 11 hour flight to LA means LA is only 3000 miles from London?
>>74546784
Seriously, is Flat Earthers anything but a satirizing attempt aimed at Creationists?
>>74546838
You need to watch the video I linked and skip to around 1:59:00. The demonstration he shows will answer that for you.
>>74546862
>>74546956
Actually wait, where is the proof this was from 52 miles away and not just from a boat some miles out? Where is the evidence?
>>74546838
but they don't? the moon looks the same no matter where you are on earth or otherwise
>>74543040
>flat earthers becoming a thing at the same time when millennials are coming out as full blown communists
>>74547067
It does not.
>>74547067
>the moon looks the same no matter where you are on earth or otherwise
t. never been south
>>74547187
nice fake image shill.
>>74547030
actually 57 miles away
>>74547067
lol
>>74547267
Again, where is the proof it was taken at that place? Image searching it links only to flat earth shilling sites and no other sources.
Why should I believe that when it's easy to take a boat image taken in the lake and claim it was taken 60 miles away? Hell some flat earther could have made it and just bullshitted where from with ease. If I believe this without evidence you should believe NASA imagery too.
http://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/
>>74544518
>ellipsoid
It's actually an oblate spheroid.
>>74544831
YOU SUMMON HIM
>Future shitposters may disregard anything /pol/ claims by saying "/pol/ thinks the Earth is flat for fuck's sake"
I'm distracted by this thread
>>74547246
This shit is hilarious.
>>74547422
use your eyes. even at 7 miles out the skyline should begin to dip below the "horizon"
and the pic was obviously taken more than 7 miles out
>>74546862
we can see that the bottoms of the buildings are obscured which would not be the case on a Flat Earth
>>74547522
>furry
stop right there mister
>>74546254
Planes don't fly over antarctica, moron. Why do you think it costs so much and you need government clearnance eh?
>>74547522
But it is flat. I've been to Antarctica, the Ice walls surround the edge for miles, and there's nothing on the other side.
>>74543629
It will never happen. It cannot happen, since there is no <orbit>
>>74547163
People in south rotate their cameras by 180 degrees.
>>74547614
>even at 7 miles out the skyline should begin to dip below the "horizon"
Which is why those towers are all part below the horizon?
>>74547623
that's the heat from the pavement
>>74547732
>Planes don't fly over antarctica, moron
http://www.antarcticaflights.com.au/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Antarctica
>>74543129
Or you just have a hard time understanding how curves can be straight lines lol
do you even physics
>>74547802
no they're not i explained this here >>74547821
>>74546254
Nobody ever flies over antarctica m8
>>74547868
>curves
>straight
>>74547889
>>74547821
Makes no sense whatsoever, go back to school.
>>74547891
See >>74547834
>>74543612
>>74544509
ironically, man would be LESS relevant if there was some being who made Earth into a petri dish and we are its bacteria.
The creator would just make new ones.
When you take a look at the fact that we're the only known intelligent life in this universe THAT makes us relevant.
For all we know we could be it. We fuck it thats it
But if there's a creator then we dont matter because there is still Him out there...
The earth is not flat.
It's a prison world ran by archons.
>>74547834
Well yeah, people have obviously been to Antarctica. They just never go over it.
Why else would flights go through New Zealand and Australia? Countries so far away from Europe?
If the Earth was truly round, they would just take a direct flight.
>>74547980
you've just been thoroughly brainwashed by MSM
think for yourself once in your life
>>74547956
Longest straight line you can sail on the earth is this. There are no real straight lines on a sphere's surface, they're replaced with arcs of great circles (being the shortest path between two points on the surface, like a line is the shortest path between two points on a plane, the geodesics of their respective geometries). When projected onto a 2D map great circles will appear curved.
Just going to leave this here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tqzg_1kojPc
I just got to ask, what would the reason for different governments be to claim the world is round rather than flat?
I mean, European and Islamic governments have been claiming that since the Ancient Greeks.
>>74548038
This guy here, he's a knower.
>>74548076
I studied Maths at uni m8, on the applied side so I have a good understanding of physics, especially gravity, orbital motion etc that were all first year stuff. And fluid dynamics in 2nd/3rd year. That's not what heat does.
>>74548164
then prove it
sail the entire distance and upload it to youtube
>>74548038
So we're all space Australians?
>>74548164
Interesting how, if you take a point at the middle-top of that image and make it the center of a circle, then close the sides of that image around that point to create a flat disc, that path becomes a circle, which only further confirms everything we've been talking about.
>>74543443
airplanes circumnavigate the globe all the fucking time, granted with stops in between, but they do it you mong
>>74548265
who do you think controls the colleges? that is a scam in and of itself. it's going to take hard work to undoctrinate your mind. i believe there's hope for all sleeping people though.
>>74548265
Then you're aware that all of that shit you listed are still considered theories as well.
>>74548196
so explain the radars are being built as high as possible?
if the earth flat. no reason for them to be high
>>74548369
The southern hemisphere in a 2D stereographic projection (which is what that flat circle is) is incredibly distorted and doesn't work with how planes and boats etc travel in reality, or with distances in reality. It literally puts South America and New Zealand much further apart than the US west coast and Europe when flights between them take 12 and 10 hours respectively.
>>74548332
Obviously you can't sail in a perfectly straight line IRL m8, currents and such mean you have to course correct all the time.
Here's another one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5HgaVZwvCM
>>74545541
this is the worst bait ever
>>74548563
Increased height increases the diameter of the scanning field.
>>74546862
This is a real pic but this is a rare occurrence and doesn't usually happen even on the clearest days. There is a convoluted scientific explanation for this but it sounds like the same convoluted scientific explanations that flat earthers constantly use so I just go by the common sense of "why can't this been seen every day"
>>74548462
>>74548496
You don't know what a theory means m8
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory
>A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world that is acquired through the scientific method and repeatedly tested and confirmed through observation and experimentation.[1][2] Scientific theories are the most reliable, rigorous, and comprehensive form of scientific knowledge.
Theories are things with incredibly strong evidence behind them, something unproven is a hypothesis.
Also
>orbital motion is a theory
Yes that's why even India got a hunk of metal to orbit mars. The solutions for orbital motion in a 2-body situation aren't even very hard and are actually pretty elegant.
>>74548574
>here's the longest path with no land
>oh but we can't do it
>>74548602
pic related
>>74548759
Theories are still unproven you fucking idiot.
>pol feels the need to even discuss about this
25 round earth shills in this thread and still the flat pills obviously have the better arguments
>>74543040
>COINTELPRO: The thread
If you believed this shit and wanted to have a discussion you would go to /sci/, if you wanted to role play and talk about ayy lmao's you would go to /x/, if you come to /pol/ then you are only here to confuse and discredit. Flat earth shit has been popping up more frequently and it keeps getting tied to holocaust denial and the trump campaign so I'm gonna go out on limb and say an unholy Hillshill/JIDF alliance is at play. Sage goes in all fields, nigga
>>74548683
not realy. if the earth is flat then 20 feet high radar will scan the same as 40 feet high radar.
>>74548683
But radar uses an electromagnetic wave, they have infinite distance of travel in a straight line. Why do you think the Soviets kept building over the horizon radar arrays using the upper atmosphere to bounce the waves of over the horizon?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over-the-horizon_radar
The Russian woodpecker was well known for interrupting radio signals in Europe in the cold war, it was an OTHR system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOMVdOc9UbE
>>74548780
that is one of the most stupid quotes I've ever heard.
>>74548919
>>74548892
Also to be able to scan at all of those heights. Until they can make a radar that pings in full 360 degrees.
>>74548799
They're unproven if only because nothing can be objectively proven in the scientific method. They're models of the real world that work until some experiment disproves them. In fact simple newtonian orbits are only an approximation, but a very useful one nonetheless, the perihelion shift of Mercury for example needs general relatively to explain fully. Learn how the scientific method works.
>>74548780
Round Earth went through that stage thousands of years ago m8, just like Evolution and a Heliocentric view on this solar system did it some hundreds of years ago and in between.
I started this thread and I am a normal human bean who wasn't even trolling. I just find the idea of a flat earth ludicrous and conspiracy for the sake of conspiracy.
>>74548780
flat earthers should kill themself desu they are the true definition of degeneracy
>>74548696
>>74548759
i'm glad you are finally admitting that we live on a globe earth is just theory
>>74548043
oh my god
>>74548995
What are you even on about now?
>>74546890
why? Are you saying that thousands of people travel slower than they could have only because this conspiracy has to be maintained? Why would we even care if the earth was round or flat?
>>74548995
What do you mean?
How is being able to scan in several distances elated to height?
>>74549025
The FACT remains that THEORIES are still UNPROVEN. Is this so hard for YOU to accept?
>>74549053
Do you know what theory means in scientific literature? It means the STRONGEST kind of explanation with the strongest evidence.
A hypothesis is something unproven. The flat earth is a hypothesis that even the fucking greeks debunked with a little calculation.
>>74549090
If they are religious fundamentalists and think round earth is related to evolution it may be a reason for the government to lie about it, as not that few of them think the world's governments are ran by Satanists/Jesuits that want to lure us to go to hell.
>>74543040
they claim silly things like jet/plane GPS/controls is rigged to make you fly in a circle.
>>74549110
with so many satellites above our head, you can't say it's unproven. At most you can say the proof is hidden from us.
>>74549110
The fact is that the earth is flat isn't even a scientific theory, it's a hypothesis disproven over 2 millennia ago. Learn the scientific method you illiterate. How electronics works, along with semiconductors (which rely on the theory of quantum mechanics) are still scientific theories, but it doesn't stop your PC from working does it?
>>74547788
That is actually retarded. You should have hung yourself with your umbilical cord when you had the chance you piece of shit.
>>74546862
how dumb are you?
you're not going to see curvature at that height.
>>74549167
It's always amerilards in these threads too
>>74549146
we have satellites to show the sun rotating but yet we can't point them back at earth for 1 FUCKING VIDEO?
NOT 1
>>74549333
Hes not talking about seeing curvature you dumb nigger, he means the buildings should be below the horizon
>>74549167
Are you saying that china is in it as well? what about north korea?
>>74549391
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIZchPDijCg
>inb4 some retard claims it's cgi
>>74549233
>not understanding how lenses work...
>>74549252
>disproven 2000 years ago
2000 years ago, people sacrificed goats in order to appease the rain gods for a good harvest. Yeah, I'll take their word on this shit.
>>74549391
You do realise that's a compilation of images taken over a week right? Look at the timestamps.
Just look here, save and gif the images together if you want one.
http://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/
>>74549447
Afraid of the truth Pierre?
>>74549333
are you retarded? the skyline should be 1800 feet below the "horizon"
the guy took the photo on the opposite shore of lake michigan
>>74548015
>ironically, man would be LESS relevant if there was some being who made Earth into a petri dish and we are its bacteria.
You're starting off on the wrong foot there, the knowledge of humanity living in a purpose built kingdom in no way implies it's a petri dish, it's the exact opposite. Our global hegemony wants us to believe we're on a speck of filth in some abandoned experiment and have led us away from the truth of our existence.
>>74547868
Physicist here. You're a fucking retard.
>>74549479
So you're saying we should ignore all of mathematics and science invented before the 19th century because the people of the time didn't have identical morals or religious views to us?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes#Measurement_of_the_Earth.27s_circumference
1.who
2.why
![Image5[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/tjMhyHC.gif "Image5[1].gif")
>>74549418
>China
>North Korea
As with the Fundies, we are talking about people who may think that the Vatican created Communism and Free masonry to destroy true Christians and that Heavy Metal was created by Satan to destroy souls.
Them ruling over China and North Korea isn't really weird if you believe in that.
Also, if a flat earth proves the superiority of Christ, I suppose they do it to not lose their Secular power to the masses as they realize Christ is the one and only savior and that the Bible is literally true, so they don't have to be a part of the conspiracy but just do it for their own gains.
>>74548196
Seen it.
He doesn't understand that his equipment is state of the fuck art, and takes into account all of the errors that could occur when being stationed in a different hemisphere.
Stop being cancerous. Do your own research. I could link you to some videos explaining to you with baby language why your wrong, but considering you haven't figured anything out already it might go over your head.
>>74549630
Mathematics can be manipulated to give you whatever results you want.
>linear algebra, discrete mathematics, euclidian geometry
>>74549407
>>74549524
Again, there's no evidence he took it where he said he did, or if he took it on top of a tall building or not.
>>74549474
lol. why can't they show it rotating from a distance? put a fucking camera on the moon at least
>>74549484
yes but there is a satellite that watches the sun explicitly and you can find video of it rotating on youtube.
also quit linking me to gov shill sites
>>74545301
i'm sure you can find someone on the other side of the world to live stream for you on skype or something.
in fact, why haven't flat earthers done this themselves to prove that it's flat?
fucking idiots
>>74549391
>>74549727
wow you're grasping now NASA shill. also there is no 1800 foot building in that area lol
>>74548390
Don't be such a bluepilled faggot mr Yankee.
>>74549723
This, there's that retarded fallacy where 1 + 1 doesn't equal 2.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVEJj0ndnWg
Algebra is all a construct made to mislead people.
>>74549723
>Mathematics can be manipulated to give you whatever results you want.
Only by changing your starting conditions, which gives the game away anon. You can't start with what Newton did and not derive newton's laws.
Or Einstein having 2 assumptions for the derivation of special relativity, the speed of light being constant (well observed and measured) and that nothing can exceed that speed (also well observed).
What does linear algebra or discrete maths have to do with this?
And spherical geometry we use for distances on the earth's surface is non-euclidean by definition. The metric is different and at a fundamental level there's a different mathematical topology.
>>74549855
Why should I believe some flat earth shill image that only appears on flat earth sites if you refuse to believe any evidence against you?
>>74549898
This guy is debunking that argument you dumb shitposter.
Has anyone thought of the amount of effort that would go into a huge conspiracy to hide the fact that the earth is flat? I can't even imagine the total number of people who would be lying and hiding that fact. People are generally fuck-ups and someone would have spill the beans. Also what posible benifit would lying to convince everyone the earth is round have? If anything every religious institution would be screaming how the earth is flat cause of God and use it as a means of proof of their book and probably running the world. Sadly it's not the dark ages and that's not the reality of the world
>>74549842
this terrifies the shit out of me.
>>74549743
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogF6I_arHHQ
>>74549971
He's showing that you can just manipulate algebra to have it suit your needs.
How do flat rather explain timezones?
Like, how can it be sunset on one place and sunrise in another if the earth is flat?
>>74549842
wow i can post sci-fi movies too
>>74549743
Thanks man, i needed someone to laugh at today.
>>74549110
No, they are proven. You are just too stupid to accept new information.
The Theory of Relativity is proven by it's predictive capability in GPS satellites, and Einstein's mathematics (off the top of my head).
Quantum theory is proven by photo electrons being emitted at finite energy levels, or quanta.
The theory of gravity is proven by curvature of light in space, things falling to the ground, and numerous other nuances.
The "theory" of earth being round is proven by Greek mathematics (two sticks in different cities, find the difference in the shadow cast by both, use information to calculate arch length and then radius) which is basic as fuck mathematics by the way, as well as observational evidence of the world not being fucking flat.
Every theory in science is 100% proven. The only way you could despite this is by bringing up a principal of tangible uncertainty, or in laymen's terms, "You can't 100% prove anything and therefore you can't know anything".
No, they are proven, and because you aren't a scientist, I would like you to refrain from making retarded judgement on how we operate.
>>74549743
>yes but there is a satellite that watches the sun explicitly
It's just a compilation of images taken hours apart, the sun spins quite slowly.
And DSCOVR orbits Earth-Sun L1 and has a camera pointed at the earth you mongoloid. Stop ignoring evidence because you dislike it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlu2p3__TfM
>>74550093
>ask for proof
>gets it
>thats fake
just kill yourself
>>74549917
>discrete
What defines the number 1? What if 1 actually represents a set of something?
>linear algebra
You can literally create whatever "spaces" you want and can define whatever laws you want for those spaces.
Just because it is generally accepted doesn't mean it is correct. Have you ever even considered...what if we are wrong? What if we and all of those who came before us were wrong about things? Do you ever wonder why general relativity and quantum mechanics don't mesh? Perhaps we are wrong.
>>74550030
I see NASA's CGI budget is starting to run out, that looks fake as fuck.
>>74549944
what evidence? NASA/hollywood video is not evidence
>>74550093
>show me evidence
>but it's all CGI
Fuck off nigger, you're just assuming you're right, enjoying that cognitive dissonance right now since that doesn't even look similar to real life?
>>74549743
If you won't trust the people that actually gather this information then nothing can persuade you. When someone collects such things without motive to great fabrications, then you can rest easy knowing that it is probably true, that is, unless you aren't a moron and you can find your own proof.
>>74550179
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlu2p3__TfM
>>74550177
they're pictures from a russian satellite. put together to create a video.
>>74550174
Mathematics is 100% logically consistent, and it isn't subjective in any way when it is applied to natural phenomena.
Actually study mathematics you dumb shit.
>>74550148
that looks really fake lmao. ms paint tier
>>74550062
No you can't, the people he's debunking made a mistake as they divided by 0 when they can't do so. That's not manipulating algebra, it's being flat out WRONG.
>>74550148
Oh come on, you know what he means, It's 2016 and we don't have live cams from the lunar surface and yet they find funds for all kinds of ridiculous bullshit. I would cite an example but I'm a lazy cunt.
Explain one sane reason that the shape of the earth would be hidden from the general population? Forget all the pic's and random videos, what benifit would come from hiding it? Is there some super secret power gained by knowing the earth is flat that all the world governments are hordeing for themselves we don't know about?
>>74550242
Is this actually real? It looks odd. In fact his video would have to have been filled near an eclipse as well...
If the earth is round then how come we only see the one side of the moon? checkmate
>>74550115
You should go back to /sci/ where you can hear people agree with you.
Theories, by definition, are unproven and should continue to be questioned and explored. If you really want to call yourself a scientist, you would respect this point of view. By completely disregarding anything that is counter to your opinion, you only limit your ability to broaden your own intellectual horizons.
>>74550224
people put together evidence that the holocaust is a proven lie and yet people still believe it happened
so you're no different
>>74550280
By accepting a set of predefined rules, yes. But you can't seem to grasp the point I'm trying to make, so I'm not going to try and enlighten you.
>>74550174
>What defines the number 1?
The cardinality of a set containing the empty set.
>>linear algebra
>You can literally create whatever "spaces" you want and can define whatever laws you want for those spaces.
No, they all follow the axioms of a vector space actually, and have many common properties.
Mathematics is one thing you can objectively prove since it's a logical system built up from simple axioms (currently the ZFC axioms) and is consistent.
> Have you ever even considered...what if we are wrong? What if we and all of those who came before us were wrong about things?
We know our current physical theories are only approximations most likely, they do however make excellent testable predictions and have been validated and are incredibly useful.
It's why we still use Newtonian physics at low speeds even though it's technically been superseded by relativity, it's a good approximation when your velocity is low.
>Do you ever wonder why general relativity and quantum mechanics don't mesh?
Yes, it's like the central question in physics today, I actually understand on a basic level what goes wrong in quantum gravity, the whole thing becomes non-normalisable.
>>74543040
:DDDDDD
no
>>74550362
because the moon's rotation is in sync with it's orbit, so it always faces us.
>>74550300
Uh, actually you could also say that dividing by no actual quantity, results in no change.
If you have and apple and cut it in half, you're dividing it by 2, and end up with 2 slices of the apple.
If you don't cut it, that's equivalent to dividing it by 0, you are not dividing it at all. It remains the same.
>>74550382
Oh, don't worry, we are more than willing to accept that theories can be challenged, but because the ones I mentioned are intertwined with a solid view of reality, they could only feasibly be wrong on a technicality.
However, the models that they are used to explain reality and then predict reality are 100%, as proven by the fact that they work. Yes, they could be wrong in some ways. For example, we don't call classical physics bullshit because it only describes accurately phenomena travelling at a tiny fraction of the speed of light. Newtonian physics predicts what it can predict, and relativity does the rest.
>>74550531
But what about the space station and satellites, why don't they ever capture images of the far side of the moon from orbit?
>>74550361
Yes, DSCOVR sits near Earth-Sun L1 point, so is in a good position to see things like this, however it's slightly offset so it's not perfectly in line with the sun, that may not have been an actual eclipse due to the moon's inclination to the ecliptic.
See the diagram on the left here.
http://epic.gsfc.nasa.gov/
>>74550403
The difference is that the earth is flat. Analyse a shill source properly and you will find that they are consistent, and not in fact shill sources.
Just look up a YouTube video from someone reltively popular who goes against your views, and observe how 100% solid their information is.
Of course, if you can find a scientist making a video on the topic, it's better, but even a laymen probably has a better understanding of these things than you.
>>74550531
PURE COINCIDENCE
>>74550508
>No, they all follow the axioms of a vector space actually, and have many common properties.
But you can create the set of axioms that define a vector space. I.E. you can manipulate the "math" to do whatever you need to do. My point proven yet again...
>>74550563
>relativity does the rest
Until someone discovers something greater, and then someone else discovers something greater still...
>>74550673
Jesus fuck. I didn't even know they had satellites up there. I'll digest this more later, thanks for that.
>>74549743
>lol. why can't they show it rotating from a distance? put a fucking camera on the moon at least
Why would anyone bother with that just to disapprove a group of people that got even less followers than creationists do?
>>74550322
Because a live cam from lunar surface would be expensive and add nothing scientifically. It costs tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars for each kg you send into orbit.
>>74550286
>I'm just gonna ignore evidence I dislike.
Ok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkvw56LqUJ4
>>74550689
i hope you wake from your sleep
>>74548368
Nah. They feed on our fears, they are inter dimensional, and thats why we see light anomalies. They create the situations on earth to feed off our fear energy we make
>>74543040
They never leave their basements
>>74549842
the shadows are suspicious
>>74550793
why do we do anything?
>>74550820
NASA videos are obviously the work of lucas studios ILM but go ahead keep posting them as "scientific evidence"
>>74550750
Changing the axioms would actually give you something with a different meaning. It would also change the equation. So yeah, the information isn't distorted. One equation can only give you one result on the Cartesian plane, no exceptions.
I demand mathematical proof that one equation can mean several things on the plan, and how changing axioms changes the shape of the line without changing the equation.
>>74543040
that's not flat
>>74550670
The moon is over 200k miles away from earth.
The space station is between 200-300 miles away.
>>74550754
Don't get too excited over NASA animations Bruce.
>>74543040
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dfVtaZbuIQ
I'll just leave this here.
>>74550824
I'm not asleep. I happen to know for a fact, from experience as a physicist, who has worked with astronomers as well, that the earth is not at all flat.
>>74550960
Yeah but they not viewing from a fixed point on earth.
>>74550721
No, tidal locking between two bodies of similar enough size like earth/moon is inevitable. The moon slowly leeches angular momentum from the earth (slowing its spin) and so increasing its orbital period until it matches the length of the lunar "day", this point is then a stable equilibrium so the moon stays like that. 4 billion years and two bodies like the earth and moon and it's almost inevitable that happens.
>>74550972
Look, they have never lied before, so until I have a closer look at it, I have no reason to think they are lying now.
>>74550754
'Satellites' is a pretty cool word for describing a camera that rotates, in the depths of a Hollywood recording studio, around a detailed model of their precious spherical Earth.
>>74550925
Why?
>>74550940
Because it won't be a gigantic waste of money?
>>74550750
>But you can create the set of axioms that define a vector space. I.E. you can manipulate the "math" to do whatever you need to do
It's only useful because the axioms are what they are, changing them would give you junk.
I won't even go into how vector spaces are special cases of modules over a field instead of a general ring :^)
