So how many of you are voting to leave or remain?
Fuck the EU.
>>74542327
Me. But it wont make any difference. Trade wont decrease nor will the immagunts.
Besides i can guarantee we'll still be in come the counting of the results. Screencap this.
>>74542327
me am
leave
>>74542327
What will happen when your government rigs the polls in favor of stay?
>>74542327
Hopefully you guys start the avalanche.
>>74542327
Leave
>>74542327
Oh my god, of course I'm not going to vote to leave Europe, what kind of racist xenophobe do you think I am? Also, I saw on facebook that all the economy will be gone if we aren't in Europe. Really stupid thing to do then.
What if I want to work in Europe? I mean, sure, don't know french or german and never will but it's the thought that counts.
Apparently the person wanting to leave Europe is that UKIP man and he's like literally Hitler, like actually bad, just like that Trump guy in America with the fake hair xD
If Scotland has another vote and goes independent how would this effect them?
Leave of course.
>>74542930
Spain doesn't want Scotland in the EU as they will help the Catalans
>>74542327
VOTE LEAVE REPORTING
Check the website for events in your area lads
>>74542327
leave
>>74542327
Fuck the EU.
Voting to leave.
>>74542327
Voting to leave.
Expect Project Fear to pull every dirty trick it's able between now and June 23, however.
>>74542327
In / remain.
We'd be in economic shit for years and probably never recover.
Better the devil you know and all that.
ME9 btw
>>74543313
I know one or two scot Nats who have become anti-EU because of this.
no you! leave before the admin bans you
>>74542327
Booked the day off work to vote, fuck the EU
>>74543874
yeah because its not like every fucking demographic shown has whites EVER surpassing muslim birth rates in europe or anything
>>74543874
>We'd be in economic shit for years and probably never recover.
Being this indoctrinated to believe such a lie and even if it was true (it isn't) what good will being IN be when the E.U inevitably collapses?
>>74542874
Farage likes the US
>>74543313
> Spain now defending British territorial integrity
Have they dropped all claims on Gibraltar?
>>74543874
You must be a London prick or a Scot.
Voting Leave, obviously.
>>74543874
They said the same thing about fucking miners
>>74543991
>making Leave EU about Muslims
Get tae fuck you mong.
This is a question of sovereignty and immigration from the EU, the vast majority of which is not Muslim. Islamic immigration is a separate issue mostly coming from the old colonies.
>>74543874
>5th largest economy (last i checked)
>EU is stopping our economic growth to benefit Germany and other EU states
>We'd be in economic shit for years and probably never recover.
Better the devil you know and all that.
WHY ARE PEOPLE BELIEVING THIS SHIT!? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
>>74544097
They kick up a spat about the Rock every few moths or so but the news isn't usually reported here.
>>74542327
Family's got double citizenship and we unanimously voted to leave.
Here for now, amassing Burgermonies so when we get back, we can begin helping to
>Make Albion Great Again
>>74542327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0
Leave please. Please be yourself again.
Remain. my career as an engineer would be pretty fucked if we left. Most of my issues with Europe are what national heads of governments have been pushing for within it, not the eu itself. I.e Cameron vetoing a tarrif on Chinese steel, or Blair pushing for free movent from Turkey. This kind of shit would still happen out with europe
>>74544167
If you vote to stay in Europe that's an implicit message Britain may be open to joining Schengen.
>>74544186
>WHY ARE PEOPLE BELIEVING THIS SHIT!? REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
Propaganda, univeristy indoctrination, identity politics, lack of critical thought and so on.
>>74543888
I know what you mean mate. SNP are either fucking deluded about the EU or they know exactly what they are doing and what their actions will result in but are lying to everyone regardless.
>>74544058
I know mate
>>74544097
No they just know that if the Scots go independent the Catalans and the basques will kick up a great Independence shitstorm. so if the scots go indi the Spanish will do everything they can to keep them out of the EU just to make an example of them to keep themselves together. they still want the rock regardless but they will never get it.
>>74542327
trying to convince some expats to vote leave
also, must watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JelNnIlgCHc
>>74544285
>>74544186
FACT: Before it was a member of the EEC (later EU), Britain had zero homes with internet connection. Today it has at least double that. Can you really risk it?
>>74544186
Japan is the third largest economy. And it is very much "in the shit".
>>74544411
Japan has stagnating/declining population
>>74544411
And you think the EU fucking our ability to make money helps how, exactly?
This is ignoring what we pay to them.
>>74544406
Yes australia i know you're a witty chap
>>74542327
I'm voting leave.
Although, we wont leave, I'm just doing it more as a protest vote, and so I can say that I at least tried.
This country is mostly populated by easily-led, easily-fooled, easily-scared, drones, who can't think for themselves to save their lives. We have no chance at leaving, in reality, but at least the rest of us can say we tried.
>>74544543
>This country is mostly populated by easily-led, easily-fooled, easily-scared, drones, who can't think for themselves to save their lives.
This. Roll out the "UR ECONOMICS WILL SUFFER" bullshit and everyone just buckles to it every god damn time.
>>74544537
thankyou for the attention
I wasn't going to vote, but I heard the king of Canada wants us to stay.
Fuck that.
>>74544483
I know, just pointing out theres a bit more to it than size. France is pretty big and pretty fucked too. While aus is smaller and has larger salaries and more growth.
>>74544527
That assumes its fucking up the ability to make money. Lots of people disagree. Investment in access to the single market is huge, particularly for a gmt services economy.
I agree in the longer term we would be fine, but no better off. But it would be bad in the shorter term.
Not that my opinion is needed but you should know what an american has to say about being taxed to hep a government you didn't elect telling you how to behave and what you should do... does this mean Scotland is the Canada of England... yes yes it does. Don't be a traitor vote leave!
>>74544675
Mr Obama said we shouldn't and I don't want to have an opinion contrary to his as he is so popular.
I sure do love foreign intervention in our domestic politics.
>>74543874
Free trade has, in every instance, beaten out protectionism. AND EVEN IF it goes badly for the next couple of years, is the British identity worth so little as to throw it ALL away for a few years of mild comfort?
>>74545000
Probably, since you're throwing it away for a few years of looking progressive
>>74544399
So refreshing to see a calm, measured and respectful political discussion on TV. No shouting, no aggressive questioning, no evading the questions. We have fallen a long way since then.
>>74544276
Indeed.
This is what the Federalists on the continent will push.
A vote to remain will be taken as a vote of implicit support by the UK for the idea of a country called Europe by European politians who support the idea.
It is the thin edge of a very large wedge leading the the creation of a Unitem States of Europe.
This is the project they want so dearly. All roads lead to it. It is simply a matter of speed to them.
> Social elite practically begging us to stay, say its for our benefit but they're all in bed with big business for EU
Fuck the EU and fuck all of the shills too.
Bonus: fuck Brock Umbungo for trying to scare people into voting remain
We've got no chance of leaving fellas. The remain camp have got far too much media on their side.
Fuck em though.
Least we tried.
We can laugh our arses off when the whole fucking thing comes crashing down.
Do as much as you can while you Can, live life a bit and don't let this get you down.
Voting to leave
>>74543874
Kill yourself
>>74544898
Based English-Speaking person right here.
Shame about that civil war of ours.
But fully agree. The EU as an organisation is fundamentally at odds with our inherant outlook.
>>74546154
I may or may not agree.
But I'd rather go down swinging than not putting up a fight however.
So that future generations may have it on the record how close we came and have it stand as a warning or a rallying cry.
>>74542327
Red pill me UK. If muslim migrants are the problem, did you not allow the muslims to take over way before joining the EU...? Where is this delusion coming form that muslims are going to decrease ...?
>>74542559
why do you care so much about the immigrants??? aren't you missing the bigger picture? part of which are the immigrants as well? do you think it's cool to be racist?
>>74544274
How would it be fucked? In what was does your job necessitate surrendering democratic control over the country?
>>74542779
Edgy m8.
>>74545000
>Free trade has, in every instance, beaten out protectionism
and benefited you largely what with the massive influx of former colony populations (cheap labour) and cheap resources due to comparative advantages.
Also, it's never about identity, that's cannon-fodder mentality; Israel wants to expand and sells identity to the young israelis, Palestinians and Irish just want to exist. Both sides are pulling the populations behind their respective causes, on the notion of a common identity; that's the essence of nationalism.
>>74543874
Say hi to endless migration from Turkey and Eastern Europe.
Hey britbros, use this to redpill people into leave:
www.migrationwatchuk.org/eu-referendum#
>>74544898
Based ameribro
>>74548770
you mean like in the 60s, where they came from Pakistan and Africa?
>>74549234
They still keep coming from there
>>74549205
wow, how is it living under M. Bison?
Politicians from Germany, France and the UK (as well as other countries) use the EU to create laws that are unpopular. This way, the politicians can say "it is from the EU we must implement it". It is undemocratic.
A "brexit" wouldn't be the end. The companies will want access to the british market. If the UK leaves there will be a free-trade agreement. I doubt that it will effect the british economy.
Britain wants and needs close ties with the EU, but they do not want and need the political arrogance of brussel and Germany.
The idea of the EU was to create peace and there is peace within europe. The idea of Germany, France or England going to war with each other again is insane. We are culturally and economically to much intertwined.
I want european countries to become closer, but the politicians are forcing it to much. Why not simply trade with each other closely without this other shit? It would still create european standards, norms and agreements. It would still bring us closer together, but it wouldn't force us.
Fuck the EU. Please britbongs - leave it.
>>74544399
What happend to western politicans? Those people are calm and respectful, they articulate themselves very well and it makes them appear very intelligent and honest. This is what I want in a politican.
>>74549690
I don't know, but I'm assuming you're trying to be a faggot. I'd ask how that was going, but I can already see surprisingly well.
>>74550151
nice flag
>>74550209
I'm starting to get sick of seeing it when I post on this board, but thanks.
I'm getting a postal vote to leave the EU. Thought the least I could do was contribute somewhat to this thread where everyone here already knows the answer.
Voting leave, brother is voting leave, his gf the same and her dad, and about 4-5 of my friends are as well. It's an out-tornado.
>>74550305
Thank you friend.
>>74550444
I live in Scotland and I know not one person who's voting to stay yet all the """"polls"""" claim Scotland overwhelmingly wants to stay.
I'm not claiming to know everyone here but you'd expect out of the maybe 50+ people I've spoken to about it at least one or two would share the """"majority"""" opinion..
>>74549774
>Politicians from Germany, France and the UK (as well as other countries) use the EU to create laws that are unpopular. This way, the politicians can say "it is from the EU we must implement it". It is undemocratic.
good point, true, essential.
>A "brexit" wouldn't be the end. The companies will want access to the british market. If the UK leaves there will be a free-trade agreement. I doubt that it will effect the british economy.
>Britain wants and needs close ties with the EU, but they do not want and need the political arrogance of brussel and Germany.
>The idea of the EU was to create peace and there is peace within europe. The idea of Germany, France or England going to war with each other again is insane. We are culturally and economically to much intertwined.
I agree
>I want european countries to become closer, but the politicians are forcing it to much. Why not simply trade with each other closely without this other shit? It would still create european standards, norms and agreements. It would still bring us closer together, but it wouldn't force us.
that is similar to the current u.s. voting rights act matter going on: a sine qua non, because it was due to the Voting rights act being passed that ended segregation that racists in the u.s. today can say "since racism ended, we don't need it anymore".
Trading is something that was, among other factors which you mentioned, at the core of integration, but we are currently in an era where capitalism has reached a major contradiction: its constant need to expand its profits, while simultaneously keeping the consumer base underpaid. Furthermore, the elites in Europe have to break the traditional ties with the homogenised national working classes, as the new finacialised capitalism needs their pensions and money, while simultaneously ensuring a revolving door policy for job spots; enter the neoliberal policies in France (one of the many examples of that, now well established, paradigm).
I'm voting to leave
Though to be honest more will vote to stay as they hate the thought of the tories doing as they please if a leave vote passes.
Stark choice - stick it to those poshboy tory twats or the E.U.
>>74550582
And this is exactly what the "immgration crisis" exposes: the so-called "european values" would never allow for a foreigner to be used as cheap labour, especially now that it is needed so much. That's why they have to present it as a crisis, so that the refugees' lives can be devalued, since you can't have a devaluation of labour force without devaluating the worth of the life of workers.
>>74543874
https://youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0
Have some education. You'll find the EU isn't as holy as they claim.
>>74542327
Do it! Do it for all of us! Get out!
>>74550598
I've been worried this may be the case. The best thing to do is to try and explain to people how much worse the EU will be in a decade, and they will have the option to vote against a Tory government in 4 years.
Pretty amusing how the only other option is Comrade Corbyn's labour.
>John Lennon Airport, Liverpool, being evacuated.
John Lennon Airport, Liverpool, being evacuated.
>John Lennon Airport, Liverpool, being evacuated.
John Lennon Airport, Liverpool, being evacuated.
>John Lennon Airport, Liverpool, being evacuated.
>>74543874
EU collapse is inevitable at this point. Better to get out early.
A clearout is desperately needed to remove all those useless fuckwits that pass as elected members of parliament.
Not one of em are fit for purpose
Leave.
Also lads, turn on ITV for Loose Women. One of their husbands is on discusiing their sexless cuck marriage
>>74544406
>double zero
>>74544119
I'm a London prick and I'm voting leave.
The rest of our green and pleasant land must be spared the corruption that has befallen the capitol.
>>74544605
We're in decline. People seek comfort and are afraid to take any risks. They'll refuse to get out of their comfy seat as they slowly slide off the edge in to the abyss.
>>74544411
Japan is suffering because of its declining population. GDP per capita is in fact rising. There was a very interesting FT series on this about 2 months ago if you have a subscription and can get at it.
Britain has both a growing population, and growing GDP per capita
>>74551176
My brother
>>74546769
Separate issue.
Crashing the political union
>>74551244
It's sad really, since opening up the market to the world and getting rid of obscene regulations (31 laws that define a toothbrush lol) is exactly what will improve the economy and make the lives of British citizens more comfortable.
>>74542327
I don't believe anyone sincerely browsing /pol/ would vote to remain.
Come hell or high water I'll be voting leave.
>>74551416
Crashing this EU with no survivors
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36316467
>Mark Sultana, a 48-year-old long-time UK resident who organises events for fellow Canadians living in London.
>While he bemoans "all the wastage and all the subsidies" of the EU, he fears financial instability and losing the right to retire on the continent.
A
FUCKING
LEAF
>>74542327
>>74542327
too bad you cucks can't do the same thing with your muslim problem in Luton.
>>74552108
>The non-Britons planning to vote
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe
>>74542327
Leave reporting
>>74552108
>he fears financial instability and losing the right to retire on the continent
>losing the right to retire on the continent
These arguments disgust me the most, along with muh holidays and muh study abroad. These people clearly have no sense of loyalty to the country and they're all going to be voting to stay in the EU.
>>74542327
Remain reporting in
Mainly because I think the two major "arguments" for leave are bullshit..
>>74544261
Watch this if anyone hasn't.
>>74543874
Probably bait but...
Almost all studies show the economy will still grow if we leave. Granted it could be slightly less than if we stayed, but it's not like we'd be fucked.
The economic argument is shit for either side.
>>74553115
No one is being paid to shill for remain. It's a nazi-funded lie and a pathetic attempt to smear remain's campaign.
>>74544411
Japan is in the shit because the economic system just sucks. That's why everyone is in the shit.
Stay because it benefits me.
>>74546769
A significant number (in the millions) of these migrants came in after Labour threw open the borders to mass immigration to inflate their voter base, make the UK "more multicultural" and basically rub the Conservatives' noses in "diversity" back in the early 00s.
We had a fair number of immigrants before that point, but many of these were from the colonial era and the decades after, and the vast majority of them were fully integrated, hard-working citizens who saw themselves as British first and anything else second.
It's the Blair/Brown-era open borders policy that brought in hordes of immigrants who refused to integrate, formed isolated communities of their own people, lived off government support. Many of these were muslims from Iraq, Afghanistan and surrounding areas, as the open-doors policy came about pretty much at the start of the invasion of Afghanistan.
come to NZ for salvation if white
/pol/ is a community of reactionaries, shut-ins and pseudo-intellectuals. Or all three like myself :^))) Not a great sample.
In, btw.
>>74555284
>tumblr image
>that post
>voting in
You're about as subtle as a brick flying through a window. 0/10 bait.
>>74555284
I see "Operation Black Vote" worked well.
>>74555402
>le bait maymay
Can't handle a differing opinion, cuck?
>>74542327
I would vote leave if it would make a difference. I am lazy af thoough so that aint happening.
I dont even know if leaving would change anything, but staying sure as hell aint working out.
Also I am never voting out of principal while votes are done in pencil.
>>74555407
Hah. I had to stop and think for a second, as I'm actually in Tower Hamlets. I'm about as white as you can get though. Not a fan of the muzzies, moving soon.
>>74542327
>>74555250
>>74555250
>>74555250
RISK THREAD
>>74544411
Japan's economy isn't as bad as people think. Its far too important anyway. Its a few labour reforms from being alrite, its doing okay in that regard I would say Japan will be economically solid in about a decade once more of the old guard die off.
Voting to stay, don't really see any reason to leave tbqh.
>>74555702
>white
>voting for statism
>>74555917
Voting to remain btw.
If we could secure an "actual leave" I would be willing to bite. The Brexit process will take years and years and years. The average person doesn't understand how difficult the process is going to be and the depth and width of our entanglement with Europe.
Even if we voted leave the politicians and bureaucrats on both sides will make sure or realise that certain elements will need to stay or be changed and we would likely end up in a weird limbo situation at best and at worst something like Norway or Switzerland. And I'd far rather be in the EU than be a cucked country.
>>74542880
Trolling too hard, senpai
SAY IT WITH ME /POL/
>Anglos
>white
pick one
>>74556177
>will take years and years and years
>average person doesn't understand how difficult the process is going to be
>having to write one line of legislation
I think it's you that doesn't understand "the process".
I am voting leave, I persuaded my mum, sister, brother and my best m8 to vote leave. They weren't even going to vote.
Feels good man.
Voting to remain tbph. The European Union, whatever its "costs" has been the sole reason we haven't had any major intra-European conflicts and I would hate for us to sacrifice that just for an idea of 'sovereignty'
>>74556270
o kızartmayalım sonu
>>74556270
Didn't the anglos just murder a blonde polish girl?
I wonder why they invite so many Pakistanis and have no problem. But they see a white chile and they become so furiously enrages?
>>74556714
No one is being paid to shill for the eu. It's a Putin-funded lie and a pathetic attempt to smear their campaign.
>>74556714
>haven't had any major intra-European conflicts
Yes, a fucking trading bloc is the reason... definitely not the gigantic fucking military alliances
>>74542327
Voting to leave.
WHAT THE FUCK HAS HAPPENED?
>>74556413
No not really even if we vote for BREXIT we will still be a member at the end of 2016 and likely will be one at the end of 2017 and maybe even 2018.
Not only are we going to deal with the domestic fallout if BREXIT occurs but following that around a 2 year (probably going to get extended) negotiation for withdrawal. Following that we will immediately go back in renegotation with Europe and god-knows what our politicians will slip in.
At worst we will be cucked into an EEA situation, slightly better maybe a bilateral agreement or maybe best a FTA agreement however all of these require a long process which will mean we need to start getting stuck into European law again.
>>74556878
No she killed herself
>>74557480
People forgot about the migrants at Calais for one. They stopped reporting the hordes.
Forgot about the rapes in Cologne.
The public is fickle.
>>74557480
Is there hope?
>>74547068
Fuck off you racist piece of shit, the English deserve a place to live as well. Muslims already occupy a fifth of the planet, that should be enough.
>>74557480
>Yessss. The government's propag... factual public information campaign has been successful
>>74543874
>We'd be in economic shit for years and probably never recover.
>Better the devil you know and all that.
Where's your evidence of this? The data published by the political parties shows that the EU costs 50 million pounds a day and that isn't even counting the costs of housing and supporting the millions of hostile immigrants Germany forces upon everyone.
>>74557977
Probably this leaflet that the remain people wouldn't even say they believed last night on QT lel.
That or they're paid shills, the EU's use of paid shills has been reported on for years now.
>>74544274
>my career as an engineer would be pretty fucked if we left
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYqjcHYTQgQ
The EU was meant as a zone for free TRADE, not centralized government by the United States of Europe. Trade will not be affected at all.
>>74557480
Rip brexit
If you guys succeed I wish you the best. If Trump is elected I think he'd treat you right.
>>74544483
Keep up, it normalized. It always normalizes. Population growth is NEVER a straight line. It waxes and wanes. As it should.
>>74558688
Brit/pol get in yer lads, all nationalities welcome apart from canadians
