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Why is /pol/ fascist? I don't fucking get it. Listen, I
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Why is /pol/ fascist?
I don't fucking get it.
Listen, I share a lot of views with you guys except one, fascism.
Why the fuck would you want to be controlled by the government? Be thrown around to do what they say.
Because you aren't going to be a party member or a leader, you're going to be an ordinary citizen.
What the fuck, seriously
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a lot of the average citizens political ideologies stem from projecting their problems onto it

/pol/ has daddy issues and thus want a strong caring father figure as a leader. don't think too deep into it, very simple stuff
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>>74540497
We are but cogs in a glorious machine. If you have a cause worth fighting for (the preservation of the White race), then fascism is the only way.
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>>74540497
/pol/ is unemployed NEETs looking to blame le joos and they need big daddy to take care of them(the government)
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>>74540497
the alternative is to get bossed around by "democracy", where 1% of people who own the media tell 90% of idiots what to do, and they end up believing them.
>accept refugees goy, it's good for the economy, birthrates and humanity, eheheheh
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>>74540497
No we're white
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>>74540497
natsoc is usually described as fascist, but it isn't necessarily so
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>>74540676
canadians living up to their reputation as the worst posters
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>>74540607
Yet we're supporting trump, not bernie :>
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>>74540497
>Why the fuck would you want to be controlled by the government? Be thrown around to do what they say.

Take a look around you. Look at how the masses squander their freedom for petty consumerism and temporary pleasures. Its useless, pointless, and overall bad for society in the long run.

Then look again, You'll notice groups of people using this freedom to.... well.... destroy that said freedom.
All we're advocating is that we win that war before they do
>yfw SJW dictatorship
>yfw Muslim Theocracy
Truly a nightmare beyond imagination.
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>>74540754
The sjw days are over anyways
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSF_J8O2Txo

2:13-3:44
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>>74540754

the constitution will never be overthrown

non-americans should not talk about freedom, because they're always talking about getting rid of it
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>>74540676
>National socialism
>Not socialist
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Because they're cuckolds
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Gott mit uns
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>>74541024
This image proves that Communists worship power just as much as Fascists do.
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/pol/ is full of autist who keep screaming in their echo chamber.
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>>74540935
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>>74540935
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>>74540497

There are many of us who are not fascist but monarchist.
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>>74541228
The proportions of the girl in green are painful to look at
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Because /pol/ assumes they, or someone with their ideals, will be the one in charge to punish degeneracy where it pops up. Its idealistic but I guess they are discussing the ideal government.
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>>74541123
>>74541248
>>74541276
>We're just going to make it nationalist and then socialism will magically function and begin to work for once

lol

not going to read the rest of that shit
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>>74541248
Heh. Capitalist, but "anti-finance". That's interesting.
And today's western economies are better described as "financial capitalism" due to the extreme power of the financial sector. :/
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>>74541024
FTFY
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>>74541443
>huh not going to even bother reading or thinking it out rationally cus i already know from the start that i am right haHa
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>>74541443
>socialism
Don't get so triggered.
The US, Canada, and most of the western world are better described as "social democracies" too.
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>>74540497

I think it's weird too, and a bit creepy.

A lot of people on here have an idealized image of what it would be, but in reality, living under a facsist government probably wouldn't be much fun. Say goodbye to 4chan, or gaming, or porn. Sure, you may call these things degenerate, but is there anything wrong with indulding your more trashy impulses sometimes? It feels weirdly anti-human to want to control our most basic impulses. Also, it's easy to shit on things like gaming, porn, drugs, entertainment in general when we all still have it: if it was taken away from you, I bet most of you would feel it hard.

Besides, I think in a libertarian society, degeneracy really isn't a problem, since you don't have to pay for other people's fuck ups. People can be as degenerate as they want and generally if they can handle it, they'll be fine. Those who indulge their primal impulses too much won't get anywhere.

I mean, our right to do things like be very sexually open, pig out while watching trashy TV? Stuff like that is why the terrorists hate us. At the end of the day I think they're jealous of the freedoms we can enjoy and still maintain our society.
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>>74541339

Both seem to be reactionary; I think Fascism started out as an attempt to phase back into monarchy, but I could be mistaken.
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I've always loved absolute obedience, strict rules, dominance, order. I get deeply annoyed by people who do things half-assed way, aren't strictly in time, have no respect for others around you. I think Mussolini did nothing wrong, it's just that it didn't fit Italians.

Fascism most likely wouldn't fit all people. The naturally lazy ones. Some of us don't even need order because it comes out naturally.
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>>74540497
Because being red pilled means not falling for the kike memes such as "equality" and "freedom".
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>>74540925
only white people give a shit about the constitution generally, and guess what, the white population is collapsing you fag
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>>74542311
>only white people give a shit about the constitution generally,

the entire US army disagrees
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>>74540552
>Freudian psychoanalysis.
You have to be non-Jewish to post here.
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>>74542497
kek
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Fascism is homosexual's wet dream. In Soviet Union they called fascism faggot degeneracy and said that if you just get rid of gays you get rid of fascism. Maybe /pol/ is just full of faggots. Words faggot and fascism even have same origin.
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>>74542595
FUGG U BINLIN
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>>74542595
>nazis r gey XD
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>>74542750

Is it common amongst nigger to drink Battery acid? Might explain their inferiority.
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>>74542774
That's literally what commies said. Homosexuality was labeled a fascist perversion. Take a look at gay porn, what is most popular? A dominate white top.
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>>74540497
Pretty sure fascists are a minority here m8, /pol/ is not one person
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Fascism is the acknowledgement that people having the right to vote doesn't mean they'll vote rightfully. This means that the average voter is often a marionette and voting becomes in a propaganda race to see who convinces the people better with sweets and candies.

Why democracy doesn't work?

>Too many people don't really care about politics so politicians try to fish their votes with empty promises
>Politicians are not accountable for this broken promises because there's always excuses they can make no matter how they fail
>One group will always have to suffer the decissions of the other so it will, after all, mean that they're living under fascism
>Many countries don't elect their leaders using people's vote, regardless if it has influence or not. Like the U.S. for example

Knowing this, shouldn't this be better?

>Stablish universal basic values (law) that will protect the intelectuals from the brutes, the developing from the developed, etc. Religion does this really well but it is not mandatory.
>Define the duties of the fascist goverment. Which is ideally is limited to defense (military and police), trade (tariffs, import and export, etc), immigration, education and law.
>People can still have representation in the parliament to express their needs
>Let the people govern theirselves on everything else

>>74540552
It's funny how you attempt to criticize fascism while proving it necessary.
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>>74543060

Maybe because whites demographically compromise of a higher overall population?
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>>74543196

Excellente hermano.
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>>74540497
You're confusing facism with totalitarianism
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>>74543388

isn't a one party system totalitarianism? or is this just the jewish definition
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>>74540497
Because /pol/ isn't full of retards but well read NEETs, we're aware of the concept of philosopher kings and benevolent dictators. However, in our naivety we believe that someone out there can actually live up to those high ideals, usually by projecting ourselves into that role. And if you think /pol/ isn't full of megalomaniac autists you're either self deluded or naive.
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>>74540497
How is your greek socialist government working out for you? LOL
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>>74540552

>/pol/ has daddy issues

If you call wanting to be the Führer of my people a "daddy issue" then I suppose so.
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>>74541024
>Soviets killing their own ppl

Communism is cancer
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>>74540497

I feel the same way anon, Hitler pretty much created and filled a power vacuum and treated his citizenry worse than the kikes did.

>bans guns
>bans smoking in public
>Curfew laws
>forced work to support the warmachine or join the warmachine and get slaughtered
>brainwashing and propaganda
>Instead of surrendering when he saw the war was lost he hid in his bunker while the allies destroyed Berlin and his civilian population, than ultimately killed himself like a giant pussy

Why the fuck is Hitler idolized here?

>Hur Dur jewz

But than they say the holocaust never happened so I really don't get it?

Fucking stormfags I swear they are as dumb as niggers
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>>74540497
/pol/ is half libertarian. They are just being edgy and haven't realized the right view yet.
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>>74540497
>He believes the jewish hollywood narrative of "evil fascisum oppressing the people"

It's literally the opposite, "democracy" hates the people "evil fascism" wants to better the people and make nations proud and strong.

>b-b-b what about evil dictators we have today?
The only "evil dictators" around today are literally that, evil dictators that are left to their own tyranny because they allow the joos and international bankers whatever they want as long as they remain in power, whenever a dictator stands up to these people a military response can be seen. (Evil Assad for one)
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>>74540497
because we believe in the virtue of nationalism and will put its good before our own petty freedom. liberalism is the source of all that is wrong with the world, including the far left
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>>74540497
Society is basically men giving up the majority of their freedom for the protection of the many
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>>74540497
>>74540552
>>74540607
>I know literally nothing at all so I assume that this is what they believe and why they believe that.
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>>74543388
Fascism is totalitarianism and there's nothing wrong with that once you grasp the fact that Orwell was an idiot that should have kept on writing and not politics and that totalitarianism is not just a degoratory term.
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>>74540552
>let me think of the most insulting explanation possible while providing no proof for the claim and asserting that /pol/ is one singular entity made of people that entirely agree on everything and have the exact same background
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>>74546298

repost it pls?
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>>74545777
Any form of individualism stops working at human psychology which is based on herd mentality
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>>74546298
is pupper ok?
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Isn't collectivism what sets humans apart from other animals?

Therefore National Socialism is practically made for humans?
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>>74546471
>is pupper ok?

wuz getting hugs and kisses.
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>>74540497
>not being a national libertarian
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>>74540623
this guy gets it
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>>74541024
Communism is the greatest cancer of all
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>>74546427
Who leads the herds
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>>74546471
yes
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>>74540497
i starting hating democracy when i saw what it did to my country ,but still i thought it has to do only with greeks but then i learned about sweden germany bongland ,usa ,france,canada and all the cucked countries.
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>>74540810
no it hasnt even started yet
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>>74542311
Asians and Indians and other successful tribes admire the constitution as well.
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>>74540497
>Hitler
>Fascist

Triggered.
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>>74540497
Fascism is, ideally, just "the will of the people", or "whatever the people want at the time".

It's a republic without kikes and always for it' own people, basically.
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>>74540497
it's just memes, most of the actual stormfags left a long time ago
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>>74540497
>implying the progressive left king of censorship, and destroying lives of those who oppose their views isnt fascist..
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>>74540497
It's the only way to stop degeneracy and jewish subversion
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>>74545710
>Hitler
>Bans guns

He actually relaxed the Weimar gun control laws and allowed more people to have guns.
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>>74547096
It isn't. It's much worse. The system of systematic suppression behind a coathanger and a voting booth is called "Democracy".
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>>74547020
>Fascism is, ideally, just "the will of the people", or "whatever the people want at the time".
>It's a republic without kikes and always for it' own people, basically.

1. "ideally". in other words, what I am about to say does not exist in the real world.

2. "the will of the people", which used to be known as democracy

3. it's a republic. oh, so now it's that. do you just string words together? does that work in today's schools?

fascism, just like communism, has always been nothing but a dictatorship, and has never been about "the people".
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>>74546298
NOOOOOOOOO!!!
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>>74546514
>muh natsox
You know, if you could remove the racist and xenophobic stuff, the totalitarian aspect that relies on propaganda while limiting personal freedom and debate, and stop the crony capitalism, you might have a movement worth looking at seriously.
It would prolly be called something else though, wouldn't reference a failed state from 70 years ago that disgraced a whole nation with it's genocide and war mongering.
Plenty of ways of being "collectivist" without giving in to the extreme cancers of right or left...
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>>74546298
Delete this
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>>74547220
>>74547189

Best quote

" A democracy can survive without the will of the people, but a dictatorship cannot survive unless it has the support of the people"
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>>74546514
>Isn't collectivism what sets humans apart from other animals?

No.
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>>74547439
Yeah nobody asked you, leaf.
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>>74540497
/pol/ is considered literally the scum of the internet. Nobody should take anything which is seriously said here.
Autistic people disappointed that no one, not even their mother will hug them makes them mad and insecure. Hence wanting a father figure to put mothers in their place is what this place craves.
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>>74547439
a colloctivist society that pretends everyone is equal will fail because it ignores reality. niggers arent people and cultural ties cant be attached and removed at will
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>>74547589
POO
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>>74547439
> t. Justin Trudeau
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>>74547580
Oh, are you a believer anon ?
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>>74547589
>Your stupid and nobody should take you seriously because your gay
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>>74547220
>has always been nothing but a dictatorship, and has never been about "the people".
Considering how it was only used in the modern era for 8 years, you're right.

The roman empire was fascist though. The very name came from fasces, or a bundle of sticks with an ax head attached. Whoever held the fasces during the lengthy debates the chancellors of rome were known for had permission to speak.
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>>74547718
fine m8, enjoy your ideological cancer !
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>>74547848
AWWW did i make a baby austist mad..? Deal with it you scumbag nazi.
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>>74548086
>calls others names
>can't poo in loo
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>>74540497
Facism is gay. National socialism is gay

>Inb4 evallion fags.

Bernie Sanders is the only true choice for president.
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>>74548086
>lol i troled u xD u mad?
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>>74547686
At least we had a great mythology in the past together. Thats the only thing we have right now.
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>>74548016
>enjoy your ideological cance
> t. Justin Trudeau
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>>74548193
>be a homophobe
>votes for bernie
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>>74543196
"hey because people don't agree with me, they should be forced to do so or DIE"
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>>74543858
"hey he isn't a braindead idiot he must be a commie! LOL XD!"
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>>74548086
poo in loo
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>>74540623
Herodotus once remarked that was easier to fool 10,000 people in a democratic society than it was to fool one king.
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>>74548321
Im not homophobic you dwindling walking bag of shit, septic tank waste, piss,cum,vomit, and shit. It's a figure of speech and I say it so much it's just instinct. Go pay your fucking debts you waddling termite infested cunt hole.
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>>74548363
>>74548412
"Hey everything these people say is wrong because my strawman btw pedophilia should be legal"
-Greece
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>>74548363
I never talked about killing dissidents.
Also, you agreeing with the goverment or not is irrelevant in democracy as well. In either case you have to comply.

Now, among the things that I listed about goverment competitions, what would you disagree with? The use of the military? Education maybe? Go to the parliament and complain.
If you oppose the law and break it you go to jail, same as democracy. Anything else is in your hands.

I know many fascist parties abolished the parliament or alienated it but that's not inherent with the ideology. Mosley wanted to presserve it and so did Primo de Rivera.
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>>74548428
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>>74540497
Virgin NEETs of pol are worse than libcucks, they don't realize that under Hitler they would be on the same camp with immigrants
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>>74549868
obviouly people are upset when you just spew your shit all over the place pajeet. whos going to clean that up?
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>>74540497
I'm not a fascist and I despise it and every other kind of socialism, but I'm still a collectivist and a statist
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fascists and nationalists here need to read evola
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>>74550142
when your sister gets free after slurping black dongs, she will clean up.
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>>74550575
designated
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>>74540552
Underrated post
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>>74550630
TU TU ROO
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>>74540497
>Because you aren't going to be a party member or a leader, you're going to be an ordinary citizen.

What's stopping you from being a party member?
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>>74540575

Nationalism would do just fine lad. Don't left these lefty faggots redefine the terms of discourse. nationalism =/= fascism
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>>74540497
You do not understand what the word truly means I think.

Fascism is a way of governing, not a form of government.
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>>74546298
Snake hugz puppy! Soooo cuuuute :3
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>>74540497
>controlled by the government

It's not control it's guidance by a leader who has the interests and welfare of his people as a first priority.

Fascism is not less free than modern liberal democracy or more paternalistic

Don't fall for the muh freedumbs propaganda brainwashed Muricans spew on /pol/
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>>74540497
>/pol/ is one person

Yeah, go fuck yoursel, goyim.
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>>74549868

Do you have a designated shitting street in your village?
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>>74540497
People miss masculinity and the virility fascism delivered. I think it's more for aesthetic reason, like worshipping Rome or Sparta, but not being for slavery. My understanding is that /pol/ in general wants libertarianism without the hippie or fedora image that comes with it. A strong, male libertarianism with strong borders.
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>>74540497
I'm not fascist, faggot
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>>74543426
totalitarianism means all parts of life are influenced by the state, with fascism this is not necessarily the case.
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>>74540497
Fuck Fascists.
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>>74540497

They had really cool uniforms
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>>74551022
>libertarianism
>strong borders
lol
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>>74552867
Open borders are an assault on private property.
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>>74540497
Democracy is a system with the goal to create shitty tradeoffs. A fascist system with the goal to do good for one owns people on the other hand is way more powerful.
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>>74552459
God bless fascists
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Read Plinio Correa de Oliveira - revolution and counter revolution. Fascism is a temporary form of government used to curb the evils of leftwing ideology.
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>>74547580
>taking the time to screenshot his flag and post it

Cuck.
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>>74547589
>hey Internet, look at me and my hot opinions
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>>74550483
>has anyone ever been as far
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>>74540497
because you need authority, it isn't a bad word like liberals want to make you think
But authority must represent and defend the peoples interests so that's when nationalism comes (not muh global goverment, or regional blocks etc)
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>>74553776
>A fucking Taj Mahal
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>>74553913
>a fucking cucked tricolor
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Who /Heinleinian republic/ here?
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>>74540497
I'm a white nationalist libertarian. Fascists eat shit and die.
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>>74554078
>I'm a white nationalist drug addict
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>>74551009
Are you autistic and a faggot...?
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>>74540497
We like Hitler because of the natioalism he inspired. Many would like to see a country thay loves it's own people and culture, instead of refugees everywhere. Forget fascism.
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>>74540925
>California passes guncopalypse
>hurr durr won't happen in my state
>constitution protected california's guns

America's dead.
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>>74540497

I'm not a fascist per se, but it's still better than the jewish oligarchy we are now in.
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>>74554205
he might but at least he don't shit in a street
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>>74540497
Because /pol/acks are beta or omega numales, sitting all they in computer. They need to take care of them, but no, no communism and socialism! Lefists are bad! So maybe fascism? It's so cool to whorshipe a big dictatore and crimer?
/pol/ is for mental kids
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>>74554163
So what. I vaporize some plant material. I have a good job and work hard at it. It's an important job too.
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>>74554078
I agree with you
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>>74554294
California is not really part of America anymore. It was lost a long time ago.
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>>74553913
Is this a new meme that I've missed? Because in all honesty I neither have the time nor interest to screenshot and post flags.
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>>74540497
>Why is /pol/ fascist?
/pol/ sees that something is wrong with society, but they're not clever enough to think of a solution. Therefore they need some kind of Big Brother figure who solves all problems for them in exactly the kind of way they deem appropriate.

Totalitarian fascism is a coward's ideology, the ideology of those afraid to think for themselves.
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>>74540497
>Greek
>communism is rampant in his country
>complaining about fascism

/pol/'s liking for fascism isn't an explicit desire for classical fascism. It's a rejection of modern leftism, and the post-war culture of white guilt. European people want to be part of something greater again, and want to be able to feel pride in their country without being called literally Hitler for it.

I swear, you can't even look at furry porn with a Nazi theme without sycophants pissing and moaning about how Nazism was bad. Have you ever seen Hudson Hawk? It was a terrible movie, but in one scene a criminal explains why he's a criminal: "Don't step on the grass? Let's play football!" So leftists hate Nazis? Let's be Nazis.

The Nazis were, of course, also a high-performance people. it took the entire fucking world to take them down, including BOTH superpowers that would spend the Cold War staring at each other with nukes in hand. They pioneered massive advances in engineering, and turned the poorest country in Europe into a virtual superpower in less than a decade. And they had impeccable fashion sense.

Furthermore, Nazi ideology put a big emphasis on helping out your own people, which is the polar opposite of modern Western ideals, mostly enforced in a top-down, government-heavy way, of caring first for the entire rest of the world, and only for your own people dead last.

The Nazis are gone. We are simply appropriating their imagery, and praising the things they actually did right. I have no intention of retreading the mistakes of the Nazis, least of all their alliance with the insane ideology of Islam. The way I see it, modern leftism embodies the worst parts of Nazism. They take the sucking dick of islam, the controlling nature, the anti-science stance when it comes to social sciences, and so on.
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Why would you ask people why they are fascist instead of researching Fascism yourself? Are you hoping to find a glimmer or truth you can latch onto?
The best way to learn anything is to go to it's source, here is Hitler's 1933 Speech to the German Workers Front
Read it and realize it is relevant then as much as it is now. I tell you the truth, the Jews destroyed National Socialism but adopted various parts of it because it rings with truth.

>AMIDST all the crises under which we suffer and which do but present a single connected picture, perhaps that which the people feels most acutely is the economic crisis. The political crisis, the moral crisis, are only very rarely felt by the individual. The average man sees in the experiences of his day not that which affects the community as a whole but for the most part only that which strikes himself. Therefore the present has only very rarely any consciousness of political or moral collapse, so long as this collapse does not extend in one way or another into economic life. For when this happens it is no longer a question of some abstract problem that can perhaps be observed or studied in its effect on others, but one day the individual himself will be caught hold of by this question, and the more intimately such a crisis begins to influence his own life, the more clearly does he come to recognize that existing conditions cannot remain as they are. Then all of a sudden people talk of economic distress, of economic misery, and then, starting from this distress, one can awaken an understanding for that other distress which otherwise is wont to remain for a long time hidden from the individual man.
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>>74555239
>Unfortunately it is precisely the German who is only too inclined at such times, instead of looking at his own internal life, to let his gaze range into the far distance. Our people has been so long falsely taught to think in international terms that even in such a distress as the present it tends to treat this problem, too, from international points of view. And the result is that many of us simply cannot believe that perhaps it might be possible to remedy such a misfortune in some other way than by international methods. And yet that is an error. It is natural that international infirmities which afflict all peoples in one way or another must be removed by the peoples who suffer from them, but that in no way alters the fact that every people must wage this battle on its own behalf, and above all that no single people can be liberated from this distress by international methods if it does not for its own part take the necessary measures. These measures can, of course, find their place within the framework of international measures, but one's own action must not be made dependent upon the action of others.

>The crisis in German economics is not merely a crisis which is expressed by our economic statistics, but it is above all a crisis which can also be traced in the internal course of our economic life, in the character of its organization, etc. And here we can indeed speak of a crisis which has hit our people more severely than other peoples. It is the crisis which we see in the relations between capital, economics, and people. This crisis is particularly obvious in the relations between our workmen and the employers. Here the crisis has been more acute than in any other country in the world....

>The first cause lies in the alteration in the form of business organization which determined the character of our economics. That cause may be traced throughout the world precisely as in Germany....
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>>74555239
>Why would you ask people why they are fascist instead of researching Fascism yourself?
Because, like with commies, no fascist believes that his own unique, true and totally accurate form of fascism has ever been tried. We might as well skip the middle man and ask exactly what your unique form of fascism is before we dissect why it's shit.
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>>74555369

Now here is where it becomes relevant

>The gradual alienation of classes which we in Germany experienced led to the appearance on the one side of the special interests of the employers and on the other side the special interests of the employed. This was the beginning of our unhappy economic development. When one had once started on this road, of necessity the two sides became ever more widely separated. Here a law governs human affairs: when one has once chosen the wrong road this road always leads one further from reason.

>On the contrary, the road led necessarily to further alienation and this tendency, as I said, was favored by the depersonalization of property. And I might almost say that this process was apparently still further encouraged and strengthened on scientific grounds. There gradually arose an ideology which believed that it could permanently support the conception of property even though those who derived any practical profit from the conception no longer represented more than a minimal percentage of the nation. And on the other hand there arose the view that, since there was now only so small a percentage of those who enjoyed property, the conception of private property as such should be abandoned....
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>>74541228
POO IN LOO
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>>74555546
>When one has once started on this course, then logically the employers will in turn form their organization. And as a matter of course these two organizations will not pursue their own ends in mutual toleration, but they will maintain their apparently separate interests with those weapons which are given them: viz, lockouts and strikes. In this warfare sometimes one and sometimes the other side will conquer. But in either case it is the whole nation which will have to pay the cost of this warfare and suffer the damage. And the final result of this development is that these organizations as they build themselves up, considering the passion of the German for bureaucratization, will continuously become more unwieldy and their personnel will grow constantly larger. And at length the organization will no longer serve the interests of its creators, but these will be subservient to the organization, so that the warfare is continued in order that the existence of the organization may be justified, even though at times reason suddenly comes and says; 'The whole affair is madness; the gain when compared with the sacrifices is positively ludicrous. If you reckon up the sacrifices which we make for the organization they are far greater than any possible profit.' Then the organizations in their turn will have to prove how necessary they are by stirring up the parties to fight each other. And then it may even be that the two organizations come to an understanding, when once they have realized the situation.

>The second reason is the rise of Marxism. Marxism, as a conception of the world with disintegration for its aim, saw with keen insight that the trade-union movement offered it the possibility in the future of conducting its attack against the State and against human society with an absolutely annihilating weapon. Not with any idea of helping the worker -what is the worker of any country to these apostles of internationalism? Nothing at all!
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>>74540839
This, you do not understand what National Socialism is because the only definition you have ever been given is that of Jewish origin.

National Socialism is everyone working for the people and benefit of your country, this does not mean you are all paid the same, you earn what you work for. All resources are mobilized to benefit the advancement of your people, your future, the preservation of your way of life, your culture and your traditions.
Identity is important in National Socialism where in Communism identity is eradicated and in Democracy identity is melded with all others.

The only questions left for you to ask yourself is what is your identity and does its preservation matter to you? Will you continue to waller with those who want to keep humanity in the mud or will you lead humanity into a better future for all mankind.
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>>74540497
Fascist have a slave mentality. They want a strong father figure to protect them.
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Honestly, I think it's because most of us have realized the choices come down to fascism or communism. We'll never be able to reason enough people into limited government, and we don't want to outbreed the imported hordes, so now we just have to fight and cleanse. And if there are casualties, so be it.
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>>74555181
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>>74557724

National Socialism is the ideology of the awakened Aryan man.
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>>74541276
NatSoc sounds pretty good
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>>74540575
Fucking kek. Saved!
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>>74540497
/pol/ is not fascist, that's what TheGuardian says.

/pol/ is a place where you can speak your mind freely. To some, that is offensive, and they label it as fascism.

Some people on /pol/ are fascists though. We call them Stormfags, and we mock them.
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>>74555181
Based, beautiful and saved.

I'm still calling you people toohpastes though.
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>>74540497
because it triggers normies
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>>74540497
it doesnt = evil

in your ancient times..during hard times there was a man i forget his name who was elected to rule and he ruled alone...absolute power

he fixed everything then gave the power back and went back to his farm

a few decades later he was asked to do it again and he fixed the problems and went back to his farm

i think someone like trump should be given absolute power for a fixed term...democratic fascism would be cool.

none of this "blocking by the senate" bullshit
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
> Fascists believe that liberal democracy is obsolete, and they regard the complete mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state as necessary to prepare a nation for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties. Such a state is led by a strong leader—such as a dictator and a martial government composed of the members of the governing fascist party—to forge national unity and maintain a stable and orderly society. Fascism rejects assertions that violence is automatically negative in nature, and views political violence, war, and imperialism as means that can achieve national rejuvenation. Fascists advocate a mixed economy, with the principal goal of achieving autarky through protectionist and interventionist economic policies.

Looking at these criteria, was Stalin's soviet union much closer to Fascism than Socialism? Can make the tick on everything but the economy bit.
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I could oppose the fascist and natsoc movement for many reasons. For World War II, and what they did to our cities and pepole. For thier economic system. And for many others. But it's not the main reasons.
You see guys, I really do not like Jews. Any you seem to not undesrtand one simple thing about them. You don't have to be Sholmo Goldstain to be Jew. You could be born in Persian, Pole, American, Nigger, anyone really. To became Jew you must be civilised in the spirit of Jewish civilisation.
And you know who was civilised in this way? Fascist.
You could argue, you could shitstorm but the simple truth is that in it very core, fascist movement is indeed a Jewish. Lesser civilisation grown on weak Latin and Byzantinne tombs of Italy and Germany. Antisemism of NatSocs is trivial, "Gas the kikies, race war now" tier. They wants to kill old Jewery to bacmae new one. Of couse, ther would not be anymore Soroses or Rothschilds but the outocme would be the same. You cannot destroy Jews by being one.
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>>74540552
>"First post best post" they said
>"USA posts best posts" they said

My God, the memes are real!
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>>74546427
What a tool.
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>>74561347

>jewish
>civilization

Literally pick one. All they do is just parasite off other host countries. I wonder why they've been kicked out of 109 countries.
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>>74540497
>Why the fuck would you want to be controlled by the government? Be thrown around to do what they say.

This is only a bad thing if you constantly focus on the initiation of force part of it, you're not looking at the big picture, the eventual outcome.

This philosophy, under honest leaders, is the most efficient system there is. It is unarguably the foundation of any great civilization that managed to project its greatness throughout the world in the form of conquest. You can't tell me the conquests of Alexander, the Romans, the French, Spanish and British didn't significantly propel the vast majority of the world into a better future with a permanently improved standard of living. Not all of them called themselves fascists, but they obviously ruled with iron fists. They all shamelessly quashed dissent, because that's the only way you can realistically sustain an empire that can pave the way for a far better future.

Our civilization is a gift, it is selfish of us not to project it onto objectively inferior cultures and peoples. You think it's cruel to project our strength, I think it's cruel to deny the world the luxuries we enjoy being part of such an advanced society in comparison to that of incompetent primitives. It is this guilt that incites the left to open our borders; they know our society is better than that of outsiders, so their sympathy is shown by letting outsiders in, eventually destroying the superior civilization from within. My sympathy is shown by a desire to completely annex the broken societies they came from and use their land for better purposes.

I am ethnically celtic, we were absolutely btfo by the romans and we completely deserved it because we weren't doing anything better than them. Thankfully, because of the Romans, people no longer shit in the woods. They deserved their empire and its only shame is that it didn't extend further.
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Democracy is even worse, its the fascism of the jews and illusion of freedom.
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>>74540607
What board are you on weedman? and can you hook me up? everyone seems dry :(
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>>74541123
>>our adopted term "Socialist" has nothing to do with Marxian Socialism. Marxism is anti-property; true socialism is not. Marxism places no value on the indivdual, or individual effort, of efficiency; true Socialism values the individual and encourages him in individual efficiency, at the same time holding that his interests as an individual must be in consonance with those of the community. All great inventions, discoveries, achievements were first the product of an individual brain.
Interested. What would be the consequences for worker's life looks like? Would this train of thought support the idea of people having the right to control their own work or not (as outlined in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSSCWAjsc7M)?

>>74541276
>>NatSoc preached each ethnicity and nationality in the own nation, seeking their own unique destiny
ok, for that to be valid/meaningful, would it not be obvious that the institutions in the nation, be they economic or administrative, would have to be under democratic control (where the participants are the members of said ethinicty/nationality)? That would in my view make NatSoc not a subset of fascism at all (according to Wikipedia, Fascism strongly opposes Democracy), but in fact socialism (which says the means of production (aka economic institutions aka factories) ought to be under economic control). Yay or Nay?
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Just watched this, it explains it pretty well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaCHBmGWcBc
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>>74541339
I am Monarchist...waiting the One true King of mankind, Yeshua haMashiach
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>>74562093
> is the most efficient system there is
north korea is waiting for you desu
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>>74540497
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>>74562093
> You can't tell me the conquests of Alexander, the Romans, the French, Spanish and British didn't significantly propel the vast majority of the world into a better future with a permanently improved standard of living.
Wut. I seriously doubt africa is at all better off today than it would have been without european countries colonizing the place. Certainly wasn't during the time of colonization.

also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9foi342LXQE
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>>74561347

Correction:

To become a jew you must be born as one. That is the only rule. Jews, as a ethnic group have their own culture & traditions. Every jewish individual can decides how much they feel connected to that, which applies to every individual and their roots/family.

For World War II; Most of the atrocities caused in eastern Europe was by communists.

t. a Finnish who is partly polish-jewish on grandfather's mother's side.
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>>74540497
Here he goes again, the "GREECE SERBIA AND RUSSIA ORTHODOX BROTHERS!!111! UKRAINE MORE LIKE UKRNAZI AMIRITE?" faggot.

He who supports genocide of Bosniaks, Albanias and Croats, but whines "FUCKING NAZI FASCISTS'" when Ukrainians wrecks Russian mercenaries, he who supports totalitarian Bolshevik regimes, but can't stand Fascist states.

This meme has to stop.
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>>74562854
They still have the advantages of the structures we were able to build while we were there, even if they make a pitiful effort to maintain it. We have laid a foundations that they can build upon, if they want to. Their lives have been permanently made easier since before colonization.
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>>74562664
Gooks are incompetent primitives. Communism is an absolutely retarded form of fascism. I wont say it isn't fascism but I mean it's like they go out of their way to make their own people miserable, it's not really supposed to be like that. The Romans fucking loved being Roman, they built a lot to be proud of. Communists shoot themselves in the foot by making their people terrified of their own state.
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>>74562091
Even Mongols had a civilisation. Civilisation is a a method of organising a community's life, encompassing all the practical and axiological aspects of it. And you simply cannot tell me that Jews do not have community.
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>>74541792
>Freedoms we can enjoy
>still maintain our society

thats the point, we're unaware (except for some places like pol) of how hard we're falling, society is not maintained while people are distracted.
Imagine a world where culture is the center, not trash tv. Imagine how many achievements we could accomplish much like the few revolutionary geniuses did in the past, but now on bigger scale. Its fun to indulge in frivolous activities but theres sex and a healty family life for that. The difference between the civilized world and subhuman nations would be greater than ever.
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>>74562883
I am not talking about Jews-ethnicity. This would be stupid. I am talking about, let's name it "Jewish mind" or rather. "soul". For exemple, pre-Hitler Germans had primarily a byzantine soul and to this day most of Russian have a turanian one.
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>>74540552
>Daddy-issues
There's no way to rule innocent men, so you gotta first turn them all into criminals. Typical jew move there. What else are we guilty of? Oxygen dependence?
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>>74542423
An army largely made up of and run by white men.
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>>74553387
The government doesn't own property :^). That would be statist bootlicking :^)))
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/pol/ is right wing

there's people ranging from full on fascism to ancap here
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