Does this kind of technology make anyone nervous?
Does anyone have any links that allege funny things about Boston Dynamics?
And does anyone have any bright ideas about how to take later models down?
Be safe, be well and bring rope.
>>74520514
>camera man isn't being pushed by a robot
Step it up Senpai
i thought it was cool until Google bought them
Also, any webms of other Boston Dynamic automotons. Thanks in advance /pol/
>>74520514
Do EMP's just shut these things down?
Is it possible to make a computer EMP proof?
>>74520639
In my eye, that is worrying. Google wants for naught, unless its genuinely new.
>>74520514
Are you assuming some kind of terminator shit will happen?
Real life isn't like movies OP. We wouldn't put a malicious AI in charge of nukes.
>>74520756
Man im a shooter, and a chemist. I have no idea abiut chips and shielding. Honestly i would welcome low tech ideas for dealing with automatons.
it's the dog robot from Fahrenheit 451
>>74520628
The 'film crew' is the first thing I noticed as well kek
>>74520756
EMP will shut down nearly anything, basically any civilization that is EMP is going to suffer a mass casualty situation. Stick it in a Faraday cage
>>74520514
These are for public consumption. DARPA has much much more advanced models.
>>74520816
Fuck nukes, imagine a thing you cant out pace, because humans tire. And you cant hide, because enhanced spectrums of view. They will be the next gen of hunter gatherer unless we find a way to naturally select ourselves above them.
>>74520514
Can someone shop Rubio's face on this?
>>74521030
Not being a cunt, and i believe you, but.... Source? Even spurious ones?
>>74520639
>>74520799
However, Google then later sold them off because Muh Image despite getting involved with the government as some sort of civilian CIA.
>>74520756
Yes and yes though generally expensive. EMP is relegated to Nuclear EMP and static systems that need a lot of infrastructure though so it's a useless question either way
>>74521091
Fuck off rubio is no longer a real factor.
>>74521233
I posit that no question is useless.
What are you on about?
Depending on how to recieve it's orders remotely, you could block or hijack the signal with simple systems like a modified rc car controller or cellphone and make them run off a ledge or into water.
>>74521490
Hey leafbro! Can you get into more. Detail?
Nobody has posted the meme song phrase yet?
>>74521552
For example if it recieved orders through radio signals, you just need a transceiver capable of transmitting the type of signal necessary. Or you could create a scrambler using the same method and disable it.
Same thing with other signals like cell, wifi, etc.
If this thing is fully automated, or has instructions to follow when it doesn't recieve a signal or an unregistered signal then you need to find ways to exploit that. If this thing detects signals with a subsonic radar, you can fuck that up pretty easily. Cameras are a bit trickier but I doubt it uses a cam to detect obstacles.
I haven't looked into how the machine works, if I had more info I could give you a detailed overview of exploitable flaws.
>>74520917
>18mph
haha fuck that nigger shit
>>74522349
It uses a laser range finder and stereo cameras. at least the Atlas robot does.
>>74522349
I meant obstacles instead of signals in the 2nd to last paragraph.
Anyways it is very likely that you can disable these machines with stuff you can find at home. EMP is overkill and inefficient method of disabling the machine.
>>74522765
>EMP is overkill and inefficient method of disabling the machine.
Unless your intentions are to disable a variety of machines in a city the size of new york.
>>74522686
>that tiny little thing
cute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chPanW0QWhA
>>74522686
>Cheetah speed... 50, 60 miles per hour if it ever got out in the open.
>>74520816
Wait til SJWs are in charge of society/make laws and use robots to hunt down dissidents
>>74522741
We've had the technology to fuck with rangefinders since the 1980s. Lasers can be jammed quite easily by simply finding out the model of rangefinder it uses and it's settings or simply throwing all the tricks at it until something works.
>>74521490
That's assuming it hasn't already recieved them and aren't in 'hunt' mode :P
The robots won't have every action be remotely controlled
and you'll need a lot of spare time and access to a unit to figure out the communications protocol if you wanted to make it do thing
Not really. They've got a thing that walks on a good algorithmn this just shows it can detect a bright pink thing's distance and executive a pre programmed jump motion for a predetermined height with boards cut specifically for it to have an easy time jumping.
Still going to be awhile. It takes Asimo like five minutes to place a straw in a cup.
>>74524124
In that case just bring a variety of jammers.
I doubt the machine would have a hunt mode that disables it from receiving new or changing instructions from its user, and even if it did it would have a failsafe.
>>74520514
Robots aren't scary.
Pitbulls people keep in their homes as pets with kids are scary.
>>74523667
clever girl...
>>74520514
Yes, it's fucking terrifying. Eventually SJW's will be able to enforce their anti-human policies by way of robots, because we all know they would never do it themselves.
>>74524202
ignorance at its finest. how people on pol actually is in STEM (university tier)? The innovation of boston dynamics isn't that it is preprogrammed, but rather what sort of algorithms are involved in how it facilitates balancing. Balancing is hard.
>>74524001
and there tech to resist jamming. like not only measuring the moment of impulse, but also magnitude.
>>74520628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDZu04v7_hc
>>74524473
how could you be afraid of these? they are so cute :3. honestly though, seeing these boston dynamics vids makes me wish i'd studied harder and school and gone to MIT to study engineering. that looks like such an exciting place to work... im gonna be sitting at a desk staring at a computer all my life.
Google also pulled their investment from boston dynamics. They don't see a return anytime soon.
>>74520514
Dump hot water on it, oil, milk, what have you, fry dem circuits
Shoot at it
Hit it with a car
trap it in a hole in the ground or an improvised device
confuse its sensors with fire, smoke, etc
force the government to replace them far too often. There are many ways to defeat the big dogs.
But when they are mounted with gatling guns?
Fuck that.
>>74520514
That's a big dog
>>74524456
And there also exists countermeasures against it. Ever heard the phrase "methods of attack will always be one step ahead of methods of defense"?
take advice from trump, just build the wall 10 feet higher.
BUUUUUT, they do have scary fake insect robots they make at boston dynamics that climb trees and fly, those are the ones you need to worry about.
>>74524606
DARPA is investing big time in Boston Dynamics. I think google just doesn't want to be involved in the military business.
>>74522939
>that image
JUST
>>74520514
How far they've come
http://youtu.be/mXI4WWhPn-U
>>74520514
Why didn't they build another robot to push the cart thing so dude didn't have run?
Lazy assholes.
>>74524711
UUUU
Don't forget this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVlhMGQgDkY
fuck this thing is pretty damn neat too. i haven't seen this before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b4ZZQkcNEo
>>74524647
The suggestions to attack the open circuits is useless. Obviously a military model will have shielding on it.
We can measure its possible shielding by looking at the the maximum load of these machines, and then we can talk about gunfire penetrating it.
>>74524943
>not posting the superior version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkv-_LqTeQA
ftfy pham
READY
WILLING
PREPARED TO FIGHT
>>74525011
What about my other suggestions?
Such as trapping them/drawing them into a really big hole.
Make it a wasted investment. Is there a way to do something like that? Like viet kong 2.0 dynamic boogaloo
>>74524647
literally everything you said could be used to kill or disable a human as well
>>74524943
Fuck
Just waiting for the robot to attack the guy
>>74520514
I tested one of these, a prototype im guessing, in the military back in 2013
Its a piece of shit, not tactical at all.
Its loud as fuck, AI is horrible, always falling over
Its only redeeming quality is that it carried our packs for us
>>74524874
FUCK
>>74520514
then do you fear the animaton show down at Disney land? Or the small world puppet ride? if you do, you would be dumb enough to fear this
If I am not an AI programmer myself, I too would falls for their jewish cocktail science
We are actually living in a cyberpunk world, this shit is getting comfy.
The robot can only act upon sensor data
Bypass/disable the sensors and the robot cannot do much
Heat -> Shield your heat with materials or hide in boxes
Camera -> Become a shape that is hard for it to identify, IR LEDs will show up as bright spots on a digital camera, it can be used for masking, you could spray shaving cream onto it to blind it, or if you can dazzle/burn the CCD with a laser, it won't work properly
Computer vision is still very poor right now, so if you hid in a lake, the robot probably wouldn't be able to tell what it's looking at
Radar/Lidar -> If you hide behind a portable wall and slowly advance, the robot will likely mistake you for part of the environment
Other sensors -> Decoys/multiple readings to confuse it
Radio -> Radio jammers can prevent communications, so you could prevent it phoning home for reinforcements or getting orders
Motors -> The robot won't be able to move if its wheels or joints have seized up, hosing it with thick liquids will greatly hinder it
Now the hard part is doing this when it has mounted weapons
>>74524606
Well they do but it would be selling bots to Amazon for their warehouses. May as well just sell the company to Amazon and let them deal with the bad press.
>>74525160
There's no sense in worrying about how to fight them by yourself. You'd either have to be part of an organized militia developing strategies to counter them, or you'd have to be a soldier in a 1st world army and hope your robots are good enough to kick their robots ass before they kick your ass. You're not just going beat the robot overlords by yourself inna woods.
>>74524749
Ever heard of physics bro?
>>74524838
DARPA invested in self-driving cars way before google did. DARPA did this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DARPA_Grand_Challenge
Two teams, one of which google bought from a university (they literally bought the whole team), completed the task. Google abandons anything that doesn't have a 10 year pay off. They only stick to projects that has a foreseeable pay:
google wave, google reader, google notes. Google doesn't innovate. They just buy and if it doesn't work out, abandon ship. They also got rid of their biotech holdings.
>>74525192
It's kind of like how drones are as loud and distinctive as a Mitsubishi Zero, but that wouldn't help if they are at altitude.
>>74524943
2:08 and on looks like stop motion.
>>74520514
Ever seen Atlas?
>>74525235
>hosing it with thick liquids will greatly hinder it
That's pretty much my first Idea too. Except a hose sounds smarter.
If the expensive piece of shit can't move anymore its essentially useless.
I can't wait until someone dumps a bucket of cum on one.
>>74520514
https://youtu.be/_jZXbhe6-rg?t=5m32s
>>74520639
they left because they didn't like forced SJW quotas
>>74520514
all that money and time...to replace a fucking goat
>>74520756
>what is a Faraday cage
A basic chain mail cage will make anything resistant (read: immune) to basic EMPs. But, if the EMP is gamma or some other short wavelength energy source, the circuitry is fucked. That requires a lot of energy, though.
>>74524456
>doesn't know that tech firms often make demos that "seem" amazing. When they need to prove they are worth the doe to investors.
This simply isn't a big leap from the balnce/walking breakthrough.
The next break through is it actually being useful. Why do I need a robot packmule when trucks exist? For what large scale purpose?
We get over excited. We've seen robots go from walking to walking better in the span of what, ten years?
>>74525221
a cyberpunk "Retarded AI Edition" these bots and other cyber like things are just simply lines of words and circuits. Good stuff starts happening when we utilize some crazy scifi shit like a quartz hdd or glass ram or something
>>74525399
>Posting youtuber garbage
not really.
Also robot room service
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgFlbQLslL0
Room service by robots, for robots (who don't like interacting with humans anyway)
>>74520514
Yes, in a few years, there's probably gonna be a version that can scale walls and rip my legs off with metal jaws.
>>74524269
You'd have to be in range 24 7 to prevent all comms
There will likely be a proprietary method to communicate with the robot which wouldn't be easy to reverse engineer, and it will likely be encrypted
So good luck giving it new instructions unless you worked at the lab that made them
>>74521011
Ok tesla, ever heard if shielded circuits?
>>74525160
Trapping them would be good to capture one and study the components so that you can create sophisticated means of attacking these machines.
Fire would have to be hot enough to fuck with the internals, and overcome the cooling system it could have.
Hitting it with some cars might do more damage to you than it, unless you have a heavy duty vehicle.
It likely won't carry heavy guns, probably capable of small arms fire though or able to carry bombs into enemy territory (although bombing from the air is better so that's just dumb).
>>74525216
a disney employee was crushed to death on the "world of tomorrow" showcase, that has a carousel that turns for the audience. Look it up,I think it's on one of those faces of death videos.
>>74525248
ITT: there is no realization that this tech isn't even mature. To bring it to some stage of reliability with supporting supplylines, that is gonna take many more years of development.
>>74525394
These bots aren't meant to be autonomous fighting machines. they are really just about being pack mules that travel where humans can travel. killer bots for combat will take the form of existing fighting craft, and the individual bots will be networked, sharing collectively sensor data and planning.
>>74525517
thats pretty funny lol, soon I guess it would be the norm to watch a robot roam the hallway
>>74525192
These are prototypes. The first airplane wasn't an SR-71. You have to start somewhere and improve.
>>74524943
OH GOD IT CAN OPEN DOORS?
WHERE IS IT GOING??
WHERE???
>>74525495
Yah, i totally know that. I sort of admit it when I stated that google only buys into these types of ventures after they do something but not yet achieved a viable product.
but the innovation is hard to spot. it isn't the robot. it's the algorithms and the sort of computing involved.
>>74525327
Yeah m8, have you? You can make it more sophisticated but even the most advanced rangefinders still have exploits. Have you been keeping up with recent military tech?
>>74520514
>Does this kind of technology make anyone nervous?
No, because they're useless gimmicks. The real robots changing society are relatively boring like the ones in Amazon warehouses. Boston Dynamics just gets attention because their useless robots look like humans and dogs. They actually got in trouble because they couldn't translate their bullshit demonstrators in to a marketable product.
The self-driving cars with crazy accurate LIDAR and recognition and a hundred other features are scarier than the BD machines which just know how to trip and not fall over.
>mfw darpa execs are ITT reading our strategies
>>74525570
the man is also alien to the concept of ground.
>>74525675
There's just no way you can make a robot like that quiet
Its not just the mechanical noises, its also stomping around crucning every leaf and twig with no social awareness
Might be helpful in industry but you will not see robots in the military for at least 20 more years
>>74524647
Good ideas, also if we could force it to decide between two hazards hahaha
Walk through the fire, or jump in the hole
Or if you made a giant wall and walked right up to it, you could make it walk in retreat to avoid hitting the wall, and make it walk off a cliff
I bet many of us here on /pol/ will meet our ends at the hands of a mechanical jew hound for being bad goyim.
>>74525235
When I think of these things, I think of them being used in herds, all mounted with 360 degree gyro stabilized 50cals, thermal vision, and being driven half way across the world. Anything 1km within their line of sight is fucked and they can defend each other. Now what?
I want to ride a horse sized robot
>>74521077
why the fuck would robots hunt and gather if they don't need to eat
>>74525760
>military tech
bro, keep up with science and keep up with engineering. Keep up with the tech they use in fiber optics. Do you know what a gigabit per second means? I know you don't, so stop embarrassing yourself.
>>74525796
ahahaha
>>74525785
not even the military wanted it.
>>74525847
>stayin alive starts playing
>>74525551
Show me a time when anyone ever has made a communications technology that was that advanced, and unhackable.
>>74520514
We've had rolling carts for some time now
>>74524456
>ignorance at its finest. how people on pol actually is in STEM (university tier)? The innovation of boston dynamics isn't that it is preprogrammed, but rather what sort of algorithms are involved in how it facilitates balancing. Balancing is hard.
>algorithms
>not interrupt based architecture. Even YOU don't grasp how complex robotics is.
>>74526050
Because the Programmer told them to.
>>74526050
best post.
Anyone else imagine strapping a bunch of claymore mines and having it run into a position
>>74524914
Or at least an electronic cart that the camera guy can control.
Im telling you guys these things suck way worse in the field than in those nice little videos on a closed course, also you have to have at least 1 person in a platoon that knows the entire in and outs of the thing in case it breaks down and you're in the middle of nowhere.
>>74520514
What ever happened to the giant robot fight that was going to happen between US and Japs(I think)?
>>74526063
>Do you know what a gigabit per second means?
Is this a really shitty troll attempt?
>>74526026
I want a horse sized robot to ride me
>>74525495
Packmules are good for navigating through uneven terrain/debris/forests, and are smaller than a truck obviously
Yes, they're noisy and shit now, but in 10-20 years, maybe they'll be MGR tier, and they won't get to that stage without learning from today's mistakes
It will all change when there's artificial muscles
>>74520917
First thing I thought of.
>>74526316
salacious
>>74525192
>Its only redeeming quality is that it carried us
You might as well say it was the guy in the most recent item level carrying us through the most recent dungeon.
>>74520514
So they made a robotic dog but pushed a guy in a trash cart using a cell phone to film it?
>>74526338
>It will all change when there's artificial muscles
We pretty much already do.
>>74526435
Not us, just our shit that we would have otherwise been carrying anyway
>>74526275
nope, if you know the physics of optics, and what gigabit per second means in terms of what is going on in a fiber. you wouldn't be saying the shit you say.
for fuck sakes, how come missiles or RF communications aren't easily jammed? Range finders do not require zero data loss, and I know you have no clue as to why that changes how resistance finders can be to jamming. Also gain.
One step closer to hover boards and hive mind swarm robots
>>74526316
*sigh
/thread
>>74520514
traps. ropes. deep pits.
i don't care how durable your robot is, it's useless at the bottom of a dark pit.
lots of moving parts means fragile. can it take 12 gauge 00 buck to a limb joint at point blank range? how good is the cooling system? good enough to compensate for the entire thing being egulfed in napalm? firefighting system? does it work twice? can the delicate circuits take the heat?
as far as the sensors, how can i trick them? camoflauge myself, draw them out of hiding with fake targets, etc.
how hard are they to hack?
>>74520901
Squirt gun + X14
Paintball gun + cyanoacrylateballs
Grease gun + moar velocity
>>74526740
>how can i trick them?
by destroying them, duh.
>>74526095
It takes about 4 years on average to find and document security vulns in modern videogame consoles, and you have easy access to the systems since you can buy and study them
But in war, that's a loooooong time to be losing to robots, so I wouldn't be counting on hacking for victory
and who says the robots won't self destruct when tampered with to prevent reverse engineering?
>>74526644
>>74520514
>Does this kind of technology make anyone nervous?
>implying DARPA doesn't have shit 30 years ahead of this and other shit that's unimaginable
we'll see in the next real war
>>74527161
>he still believes the "military has advanced technology years ahead of everyone else" meme
>>74527161
>OH YOU MEAN LIKE CALLL OF DUTY xDDDDxDDD
Fuck off you autistic fucks with your fan fiction
>>74527161
DARPA pays universities in america through competition (because sole source contracts is now a bad idea, ahahahaha, oh boeing oh lockheed).
Bulldozer + Lake would be an instant KO for most land based robots unless they were robot tanks
What about boats and air?
>>74524943
>>74525368
agree. this was either massively sped up... or fake @2:08
>>74527292
>>74527268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGxNyaXfJsA
>>74525209
CHILDREN
>>74527435
Please, we've known about drones for years
>MUH SPOOPY CAMURA
Get the fuck out plebbian
>>74526574
Not yet perfected, but we won't see motor based robots anymore when the muscles are reliable enough
>>74527435
Ok?
They built a really expensive camera. Where is the advanced technology?
>>74527268
>>74527292
DARPA is working on real life exoskeletons, extremely fast jets, anti rpg, stuff like>>74527435
maybe 20 years ago you would be right but nowadays lots of the stuff they are doing sounds sci fi, I doubt they show even 20% of what they do
>>74527785
>wide area high resolution image from high altitude
its basically like the camera on the SR-71 but a wider area with video instead.
>>74527785
>>74527587
>stuff that would blow people's minds 100 years ago
>this is only the surface level stuff that they are willing to share
>lmao plebian stuff wow just a camera
really makes you think
Argus + Dogbot + countless other technologies DARPA is working on right now put together = YOURE FUCKED
>>74521011
Back in the day, military hardware was hardened against EMP. Dunno about now, though.
>>74520901
Throw a bucket of red paint at it. Bam, multi-million thermals, cameras and sensors are all useless.
Where are they going to start becoming useful?
>>74523328
Look at how much trouble its having going that fast though, it'll be a while before we have robots that do that without being held up
>>74524991
that made me giggle so many times
god bless white, asian, and indian people
>>74526644
R2Dindu
>>74527943
>This Gladius is quite magnificent, bet you'd never thought we'd have these 100 years ago
This arguement can be made for any type of technology but nice try
>>74528016
They have shown videos of other prototypes hauling packs of gear.
An army patrol could have it carry around tons of extra heavy shit over any terrain
>>74520514
At most I see the locomotive technology advancing into better parts for construction vehicles and assembly line machines.
I don't think we'll see mobilized armies of robots when conventional gear and living soldiers are still really effective.
Though I'd be among the first to sign up for pilot aptitude tests if for whatever magical reason giant robots became possible.
>>74528204
Chaddus Jupiterpenis
>>74521276
>tripfagging
>shitty sense of humor
What a surprise
>>74528395
Ive heard this since the day they started but they're still nowhere near implementation
by the time they figure their shit out exoskeleton suits will have already eliminated their need; they already have almost
>>74526644
This is glorious
>>74525511
>posting youtuber garbage
>>74525847
>>74525936
If they're remote driven, then they're easier to disable, no comms = no action, for the whole swarm
Just hide somewhere and wait for the battery to run out :P
>>74520514
These robots are just really neat locomotor experiments right now. Nothing more than a wind-up toy that can't change directions. We're still years away from I, Robot.
>>74530047
Wow nice comeback Australia
You are funny, you are smart Vegemite is real food
>>74528481
You dont even know what a tripfag is you goddamn dunder head!
>>74526644
>>74528192
god damn that was the funniest thing I've seen all month
>70% of the robot is batteries
>it's basically a piece of shit
>dig a hole, fill it with water
>paint bomb (use metallic or magnetic paint)
>mag dump into it's censors
>kill the operator
>it's basically a piece of shit novelty item
>>74530554
>military made ones won't be completely water proof
>not just adding shutters to the sensors and cameras that automatically close upon detecting something
>guy using the thing is in Florida
>>74530872
wouldn't shutter that close under attack be a terrible idea and mean all you have to do is throw a pebble at it and it'll play possum? then you can just destroy it.
>>74531007
it wouldn't stay closed, they already have stuff that can detect a rpg mid flight and prematurely detonate it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_yz_ONZltA
the whole idea of "just throw paint on it" doesn't seem very practical at all, paint is inherently heavy to transport along with putting yourself at risk, it would only really work if the thing was completely alone with no support and not moving, I think it would be pretty hard to use some kind of paint grenade on a drone moving 60 mph
>>74526026
>I want to ride a horse sized robot
Place a cockpit inside and mount weapons on top.
>>74520514
just for reminder whole
Big Dog project was scrapped
>>74526851
>Self-destruct mechanism
Cool so we only have to figure out the easiest way to trigger that
>>74524589
grass is always greener.
trip the bitch
>>74528192
U N D E R A T E D
>>74526050
u idiots need to understand the concept of intelligent agent.It does not have a mind like humans have,but execute orders (hunting/food gathering)
>t. Russel , A.I: A modern approach
>>74520816
>We wouldn't put a malicious AI in charge of nukes.
No, but we'd put this hormone imbalanced bitch in charge of them, wouldn't we?
>>74520816
>HATE.jpg
>>74528046
No it will not. First off even if we make a robot than can't go much faster than 28 mph without eating shit, how fast can the average person run? Even the fastest humans on earth can't do much more than 25 mph for more than a hundred yards. Think about the intent rather than the limits of a prototype.
>>74522765
I had heard China and Russia having EMP nukes. They can take out continent.
It would finish the war instantly. People cant bear existence without internet.
Skynet Will rise
The machines Will replace humans
Plan accordingly.
>>74528046
>People actually believe this
>>74525235
>hide in boxes
ur not snake
>>74520514
It's not any stronger than its biological counterpart, in fact at the moment it's a great deal weaker.
I'm a lot more worried about new surveillance methods that are significantly more difficult to combat.
