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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hakb6S0IpgY
Daily reminder that christianity is the foundation of white culture and the ultimate defense against the degenaracy.
Atheism=jews way to destroy the white culture, or just being an edgy fedora
https://youtu.be/u20i_rrD_SU?t=130
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prove me that god exists
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>>74448212
I don't need to prove beacuse the concept of faith is that you BELIEVE not KNOW that there is God.
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>>74448173

deus vult brother
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and what's the best denomination of Christianity?
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>>74448173
Oleeee Islam perdiole oleeee
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>>74448212
Here: http://pastebin.com/9XxNnSU6

>>74448638
The Orthodox Church is the one Christ founded, so I'd recommend it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw8XE3j_c0U
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>>74448638
Catholicism and Orthodox are the only legit forms, everything else is literally heresy.
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in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, the Fourteenth Protocol:
>"When we come into our kingdom it will be undesirable for us that there should exist any other religion than ours ... We must therefore sweep away all other forms of belief, even if the temporary result of this is atheism"
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>>74448173
God bless, Poland
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>>74448794
not proof
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>>74448808
As a Catholic, I tell all people considering Catholicism to NOT ACCEPT VATICAN II. Francis is not the real pope and you should only attend TRADITIONAL CATHOLIC MASSES.
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>>74448173
I want you to hit more than hohols from western Ukraine
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>>74448925
No, but strong evidence.

If you want proof of God, then the answer is very simple: the universe has existed for a limited amount of time, so the conditions that made its existence possible either did not always exist, or did but had agency; if they always existed but did not have agency, the conditions for the universe would always have been, and thus so would the universe.
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>>74448173
GOD BLESS POLAND
KYRIE ELEISON
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>>74448173

What did he mean with that ?
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>>74448638
here
>>74448808
I respect my Orthodox friends from the East we are the only ones who can fight back jews and muslims
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0d4qM7gCH8
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>>74448173
>christianity is the foundation of white culture

Lol, its a fucking Arab religion.
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>>74449064
>flag

never change aussie
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>>74449015
if there was strong evidence it'd be proof

try again jesusfreak
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>>74448984
Why not just go Orthodox then? Our entire schism was mainly about whether or not being the bishop of Rome guaranteed you that kind of authority--you, yourself, are admitting it obviously doesn't make you infallible, for instance, so being Bishop of that See clearly doesn't entail what you thought it did.
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>>74449015
>the universe has existed for a limited amount of time,
Time has only existed as long as the universe.
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>>74448638

Only two forms of legit Christianity exist for whites. Eastern Orthodox, and Roman Catholic rejecting Vatican II and the legitimacy of the current pope.

Recognized Christians outside of this are Copts and the Armenian Church. All else is heresy
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>>74449064
European culture(Western culture) is founded upon Christianity. You can't talk about European History without also talking about Christianity.
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>>74448173
God bless and fight on
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>>74449064

I'd hedge my bets you don't know the history of Arabia
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>>74449115
Orthodoxy is just way to foreign for most Catholics. It's seen as a Greek or Slavic thing.
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>>74448808
Why? I hear this on all the chans constantly, but the only logic behind it has been:
>Protestant women are slutty.
>Protestant music is shit.
>No comfy old-fashioned rituals.
>They want to destroy the white race (even though Catholicism is literally a synonym for cosmopolitanism).
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>>74448808
The Pope LITERALLY came out and said that Islam and Judaism are the same as Christianity and that Christians were just as bad as Muslims.

Catholicism is bullshit and Luther had the right idea of properly reforming the church. He kept everything related to the bible, translated it to the vernacular, stopped praying to Saints and particularly Mary, and wrote "on the Jews and their Lies".
The man was based.
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>>74449015
>the universe has existed for a limited amount of time

[citation needed]
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>>74449185

True, but bear in mind, the whole of Christendom was Orthodox at one point. The schism only occured in the 1000s I think. Before that, the Pope didn't do much without the go-ahead from the Emperor of Byzantium
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>>74449037
His Eminence Hilarion, the guy in charge of External Church Relations for the Russian Church, wants to make a concerned effort with the Catholic Church to fight increasing immorality in the West and the slide to secularism.

He's also a great composer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kC13O-GdMw

>>74449107
Then it is proof, by your definition
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>>74449148
So what you're saying is whites have been cucked for most of their history. Makes sense, we should break past it.
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>>74448794
>historicity of the gospels
>proof
I would say it is bait but given who you are i know you are actually being serious with this shit
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Christianity is jewish, it only spread due to the roman empire conquering israel
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>>74449107
Belief is different than proof, you mongrel.

There is no concrete proof God exists. It is all based upon belief.

Do you wish for Islam to take over the entire world? Even as an atheist, I would MUCH rather live in a Christian society, than a Muslim one. Understand that Islam is pure, absolute evil and cancer. There is nothing worse than this.

May God have mercy on your soul.
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>>74448808
They cant both be legit you retard
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>>74449154
artwork is truly hideous.

If god exists why does he allow the Christian church to have such ugly art
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>>74449229

Evidence strongly suggests this is the case, and is the same stuff used to support big bang theory. As we get closer to the beginning, physics can tell us less and less, but there is a good philosophical reason for believing the universe is not infinite in the past. An infinite regress results in mathematical absurdities, which were demonstrated by the German mathematician Hilbert
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>>74448173

>/pol/ unironically believes in a magical jew that will punish them after they die unless they're good boys
>they call this belief "redpilled"

I'm not sure you guys understand just how laughable this all is.
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>>74449213
Protestantism is heresy, it changes scripture and interprets the bible to mean what ever they want, hence the billions of different forms of protestantism. The Catholic Church is the one holy apostolic church that was founded by Jesus and Peter.
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>>74449015
>applying temporal concepts before time itself existed
>applying your simple notions of logic and absurdity to physical extremes
>not learning anything at all from the past hundred or so years in physics
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>>74449285
Yes and it pacifies the goyim.

>turn the other cheek
>while Jamal rapes your daughter
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>>74449148
European culture was around a long time before christianity, christianity hijacked european culture, aka christmas was the christians stealing yulefest.
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>>74449303

they can, but just in 'schism'. Being schismatic is different from being heretical
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Hi I was not raised to be religious but I want to convert to Christianity. Do I need to join a church or just follow the 10 commandments? btw I'm in commiefornia so I don't think there are any good churches for whites
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>>74449185
>>74449115
I was raised in a Russian household so the move to Orthodoxy wouldn't be hard for me.


But I only view Francis as the anti-pope. Ratzinger should have never left, and he was forced out. There is a large conspiracy here. I will not abandon my faith, but I pray that my Orthodox brother will come to aid when the time comes to cleans the Vatican of its corrupt pion and heresy.
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>>74449125
That is right. And if the conditions which brought about the universe were unlimited by time, then so would be the universe, since there would not be one moment the universe doesn't exist and the next it does; the conditions would be eternal, as would the universe.

>>74449185
Consider Western Rite

Western Rite Liturgy, restored from the 6th Century
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGvjx1102U8
Pic related, Romanesque Western Rite Icon (Romanesque was a Western style during the Middle Ages, but this is a contemporary icon)
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>>74449369

If you think Christianity is a religion about works, being 'good boys', then you obviously dont know anything about it nor have ever read the Holy Text.

>checks flag

ah yes, that education system
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>>74448984
In the history of Church there was better and worse popes, but we must remember that we the people the sons of Christ are what makes our Church. Have faith in God, because you can see what lack of faith did to the Western World- people treat cultural marxism as cult, as their new religion, just like in the older days people viewed communism as their new religion.
>>74448857
God bless you to, and all of his children
>>74449012
could you explain?
>>74449022
CHRISTE ELEISON
Christe, audi nos
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Stay faithful, my friends
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>>74449447
>Consider Western Rite

No, I'm a catholic and will die a catholic.
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>>74449357

Reductio ad absurdum. Next.
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>>74449229
Literally the only major argument against this today, like with Stephen Hawking, is the tortoise and Achilles scenario

Anyway, if the universe always existed, we'd be in heat death right now.
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>>74449427
There are a couple traditional churches in California. I will not say my church because of how few there are.

But all you need to do is find a traditional catholic church and speak to the clergy. You will need to be baptized, which isn't hard at all.

Welcome brother.
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>>74449282
If the argument for them as historical is good, and they were shown to be accurate, that would pretty much prove God, no?
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>>74449472

No, I don't spend my time studying fairy tales or spend time debating fairy tales and angrily debate what meaning I'm supposed to glean from them with other autists. I have better things to do with my time. Hell, even posting on this shithole is a better use of time.
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Does it matter what denomination you are, as long as you worship God and follow the teachings of Christ?
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>>74449504

okay, you do not reductio ad absurdum isn't a fallacy, right? Its a form of argumentation. Are fedoras really this fucking retarded?
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>>74449497
Finally. Thank you.
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>>74448173
Follow the Renegade Jew /pol/. He'll never steer you wrong.
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>>74449623

confirmed neckbeard
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>>74449474
How are Catholics in Poland? I hear it is a haven, but I've never been.

My gf is actually from Poland(Moved her when she was 11). She grew up Roman Catholic but has since Become non practicing. I need to get her back to church.
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>>74449431
Go with what ever feels best for you I'm not going to convince you to do anything.

With regards to Pope Francis, he is a bad pope and there have been many bad popes throughout time, it's not the end of the church or anything.
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>>74449431
The Orthodox faith IS your faith.
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>>74448212
die in a fire then you'll see him for sure.
also, fuck you. nobody needs to prove anything you fucking faggot.
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>>74448173
Amen
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>worshiping a dead jew
>believing fairy stories
>not just being a decent person

wew lads
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>>74449798
I will pray for you.
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>>74449854
tell your pretend daddy hi from me
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>>74449696
Your whore mascot looks like she has down's syndrome in every picture
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>>74449751
Is it though? The schism happened in 1099, weren't both(RC and Orthodox) sides connected to each other in the One True Church? From what I can tell, both are legitimate sects of Christianity and only differ in minor theological differences.

Why should I convert to Orthodoxy over Catholicism?
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>>74448173
Daily reminder that Christianity came from Judaism and is as much a Middle-Eastern poison as the other Abrahamic religion regardless if it was used in Europe.

Orthodox Christians are cool I've no problem against them but still Christianity in no way did came from Europe. Many types of Paganism did. Does it mean I want Europe to be Pagan? I don't know, I'd prefer it over Christianity and Atheism anytime, but why not make something new? Actually, just let people think for themselves. Don't force religions or atheism on them, just teach them how to think.

Anyway it's all a very tough question. If we are going to have a race war, white people would need to be united. And as much as I don't like Christianity, if that middle eastern religion will be the thing that will unite white people against the Jew, against refugees and against degeneration then so be it.

But can you fuckers make up your mind on 1 religion/ideology or whatever and get along instead of arguing with eachother everytime and causing chaos?
>christianity best
>NO you worship a kike on stick :DD adeism is better
>no adeists ar fedora cringelards ;DD paganism is the way
>lmao pagans are larpers christianity is best.

Shut the fuck up if you can't agree on a religion how the fuck do you want to have a race war? We would be fighting ourselves rather than our enemies..
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>>74449015
>strong evidence
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>>74449651

You mean necessarily a fallacy. In this case, you are using it fallaciously.
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>>74449666
Get behind thee Satan!
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>>74449954

Gee, thanks for your advice schlomo. Fuck, wish the Iron Guard had killed you all
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>>74449966

Ummm, no. Try harder. Atheists on the internet have very low IQs. theyof ten claim that the slippery slope is a fallacy as well.
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>>74450021
Ahmed you can call me schlomo as much as you want but I'm whiter than you.
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>>74448212
There is no proof of God's reality. There is no certain proof of ANYTHING. (There is actually only one absolute certainty: that existence is not nothing whatsoever; i.e., something exists)

It is possible to be deceived about apparently solid logical truths such as 1+1=2. The last word in everything is uncertainty.

ALL knowledge is ultimately founded on faith - almost exclusively blind faith. If you ever realise this (not only at the comfortable distance of your intellect) you might find yourself drowning in despair. There you will discover the "proof" of God, who is the ground of your being.

Kierkegaard, the great Christian thinker, succinctly defined faith and the cure for despair (the sickness unto death):

"By relating itself to its own self and by willing to be itself, the self is grounded transparently in the Power which constituted it."
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>>74450098

> Literal synagogue of satan
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>>74449015
That "strong evidence" supports quite a lot of gods, not just yours.
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>>74449945
See, that is not the Orthodox view. We don't consider your sacraments valid. No, not even your baptism (though it can be made retroactively valid upon conversion). Before you say this view is harsh, the Catholic Church felt the same way toward us until Vatican II, where they went so far as say even Protestants have valid baptisms.

So from a Catholic perspective, both churches are valid. But from an Orthodox perspective, the Catholic Church is heretical and thus invalid. If you want to understand our differences with you, and our perspective, and why we think it is so important, there's this: http://pastebin.com/ZSTu1ZvK

The Catholic Church is nothing like Protestants, but they have still made said things which greatly disturb us (Aquinas, for instance, said latria should be paid to the cross).
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>>74450176
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>>74450198
Hence the pastebin about the argument I made concerning the Historicity of the Resurrection.

http://pastebin.com/9XxNnSU6
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>>74450176
nice try trying to project your blind proof onto others lad
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>>74450068

Slippery slope can be a fallacy you fucking first grade idiot. Jesus christ. Put down your children's book sometime and learn something.
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Atheism is not enlightenment, it's the clouding of human mind.
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Hermeticism is the only way back onto the true path.
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>>74450323

no, it is just an argument people don't like. That doesn't make it a fallacy you stupid fucking burger
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>>74450176
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>>74449282

why oh why did this happen to the disciples? they could just say i am not a christfag. they must have seen something what let them be tortured and killed
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>>74450344
this. it's also a complete dead-end, spiritually, emotionally and mentally. there is no way there is nothing metaphysical.
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>>74450344
>Hitler
gr8 b8 m8
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>>74449617
Some German archeologist found Troy based on the Ilias.

Does that mean that the Greek Gods are real?
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>>74450176
Kierkegaard is a top notch philosopher. I'm grateful for his works.
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>>74450599
Why has no one reported it..
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>>74450599
I really don't see how finding Troy compares here, that would be more like finding Jerusalem. My argument isn't that Jerusalem exists, which everyone knows.
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>>74450599
>missing the point
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>>74450519
Exactly.
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>>74450413

>If we start allowing our son to hang out with boys, next thing you know he'll be holding hands with them, and then he'll want to be a full on fudge packer!

Slippery Slope logical fallacy

>If we coddle mexicans and allow them to cross our border freely and even protect them as illegal citizens, then where do we draw the line? Do we cover all illegal aliens? Do we just get rid of our borders? Our border must be protected and illegal immigration must not be tolerated

A non fallacious version of slippery slope.

You'll note that in order for it not to be a fallacy, you have to demonstrate that the slope exists and is relevant/correlated and not just stringing together several unrelated phenomena.

My last (You) for your retarded ass by the way. You can barely seem to fucking type, let alone understand basic shit, so I'm wasting my time.
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>>74448212
you think therefore you are.
the basis of scientific theory is that you must assume things don't exist; and prove that they do.
going by this, nothing else would exist.
if you think otherwise- then you already have faith within you.
if you don't; then you are all that exists.
if you are all that exists, and you love yourself; know yourself and control yourself, then you love everything, know everything and control everything.
thus you would be god.
if indeed, there was a group of entities capable of proving their existance to you; God would be in that group.
if indeed there was a group of entities capable of existing without proof; God would be in that group.

So either God exists; or you are God.
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>>74450315
there is no logical proof of that which transcends logic. logic defines the limits of human conception. God cannot be seen because His nature is inconceivable. If you need an objective demonstration that God may actually be real, you need only look at the life of Jesus.


For our sanity, we all require blind faith. Faith, for example, that we will not cease to exist at any moment, or that the world we perceive is objectively real. (That's what allows you to remain emotionally indifferent to such irrefutable possibilities.)

You require objective proof, but proof is an illusion - vanity.

Your world rests on faith no less than a Christian.
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>>74450677
Your argument is some vague "historicity". There's historical fiction. Historical cross references don't make the fiction real however especially not when the fiction is so fucking extraordinary.
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>>74450950
Which of the three explanations at the end do you go with? Or, if none of them, could you explain why not?
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>>74450634
Wittgenstein, who turned to God and was pretty much a Christian in his later years, thought very highly of Kierkegaard. He considered him the most profound thinker of the 19th century, and a saint.
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>blaspheming your ancestors gods
>worshipping a kike on a stick instead
>white culture
wew

Bonus!
Swastika is a pagan symbol!
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>>74451086
>Which of the three explanations at the end do you go with?

A mix of all three.
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>>74450677
Trump exists also, but you dont see anyone worshiping him.

The faith of Christianity rests on this random guy existing in a city performing slight of hand mind tricks. Its almost entirely based on an earlier religion in which it was probably created as an offshoot like someone plagiarising a song or book to gain some of the following of the original, I'm also suggesting the guy named Jesus wrote the book. Muhmad most likely did the same.
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>>74449267
I would love to see that, it is truly a beautiful view when people all across nations return to their faith, to their Churches that made their country great.
>>74449275
>cucked
the development of every country, the arts, the literature, the scholars the architects, the culture- in white world it's all product of Christianity.
>>74449285
>thinking that modern jews are the same thing as jews in the ages of Christ
>Oremus et pro perfidis Judæi
Oremus et pro perfidis Judaeis: ut Deus et Dominus noster auferat velamen de cordibus eorum; ut et ipsi agnoscant Jesum Christum Dominum nostrum.

Oremus. Flectamus genua. Levate.
Omnipotens sempiterne Deus, qui etiam Judaicam perfidiam a tua misericordia non repellis: exaudi preces nostras, quas pro illius populi obcaecatione deferimus; ut agnita veritatis tuae luce, quae Christus est, a suis tenebris eruantur. Per eumdem Dominum...
>>74449291
this, if you're atheist in muslim country you considerated as the most filthy animal you can be.
>>74449369
>let me tell you about your religion
>>74449378
this see the link
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10/05/worlds-first-lesbian-bishop-calls-church-remove-crosses-install-muslim-prayer-space/
>inb4 breitbart
>>74449395
another not understanding what this words mean. Nobody ever said in the Gospel that you should look away when somebody is hurting the weaker. Self suffering is humble, but protecting the weak is a virtue
>The Cardinal Virtues
1. Prudence
2. Justice
3. Fortitude (Courage
4. Temperance
>Luke 10:19
"I have given you authority to trample on snakes and scorpions and to overcome all the power of the enemy; nothing will harm you"
>>74449427
You can start by just reading the Bible, praying and living by God's will, but I would strongly recommend you to go to your Church and try to find a decent priest who will guide you with the whole process.
In catholicism it is necessary to vist the Church and do the confessions
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>>74449282
Goooooood Anglo!

Who cares if churches are empty and mosques are popping up around you like a game of wack-a-mole!

Who cares if your country's mayor is a Muslim? You're enlightened! You have a superior intellect!

Truly a gentleman and scholar of the ages. I tip my fedora to you.
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>>74451254
Elaborate

>>74451264
I'm talking about the truth of the Resurrection, not just Christ's existence. But before I go into the Resurrection, I have to show his existence, don't I?
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>>74451311
Country's capital* whoops :3
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>>74451311
Are you Coptic?
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>>74451311
dude you okay there?
You're calling that brother an Anglo like a roach.
You're not a roach, are you anon?
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>>74451288
>the development of every country, the arts, the literature, the scholars the architects, the culture- in white world it's all product of Christianity.

Which is why it failed. We'd be much further along without such a burden holding humanity back.
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>>74451380
>>74451425
100% Zuid Afrikaanse Boer families :3
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>>74448212
PROVEN
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>>74451341
Considering they could have just got someone who looked exactly like him to fake such a thing, I'm not impressed. Besides, its he said she said. Nothing besides the bible says it happened. You'd think something like that would be recorded, no?
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>christcucks
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>>74451580
Those are triples. Which means false in all regards when going for doubles.
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>>74451583
They're willing to die for a double?

I'm pretty sure everyone who recorded it happening would be a Christian, I mean how could you not be after that? Most people didn't know how to write though.
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>>74450315
Nice try at an argument
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>>74451700
And if they were a first generation Christian, their writings would probably be in the Bible. The only major extant first-generation Christian work (afaik) not in the Bible is the Didache, which wasn't included because the author couldn't be pinned down.
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>>74448638
Methodism of course
>Based John Wesley
>Salvation is assured
>Personal relationship with God, no need for a go-between.
>Works of charity brings us closer to God
>Prima scriptura (Scripture is not the end all/ be all for how to interpret God's word and how to live)

______________________________
>Fuck the Church of England
>Fuck Catholics.
>Fuck Lutherans.
>Fuck Baptists.
>Fuck Anabaptists.
>Fuck Evangelicals.
>Fuck 7th Day Adventists
>Fuck Pentacostals
>Fuck Anglicans
>And especially fuck Calvinists
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>>74451341
>Elaborate

Sect leader got culled because of his shenanigans.
Followers exaggerate the death: "Jeshua died for ya sins and da sins of all of humanity ya filthy pagan, ya wouldn't disrespect his great sacrifice, oy man."
Assuming that people back then were as "intelligent" as people in that region nowadays, they'd of course believe it. There doesn't have to be any gain from lying, being found out a liar is worse than just going with it - if you ever lied as a kid you should remember that feeling.

There's nothing fancy about it really, it's like every other cult.
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>>74451593
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>>74451580
Lord Kek is real indeed :^)
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>>74448173
BASED POLAND
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>>74449148
What the fuck am I reading?
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>>74448794
And here.
http://pastebin.com/xMQ9wAwW
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>>74451796
>Fuck Lutherans
The UMC is in FULL COMMUNION with the ELCA
>Fuck Anglicans
The UMC and currently working on achieving FULL COMMUNION with the Episcopal Church

Anyway, how is that whole gay thing going for you these days?
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>>74451593
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>>74451954
>hat memes

ebin
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>>74451818
Why would his followers be thought of as liars if they didn't concoct a hoax? Only Christ would be. On top of that, they're willing to leave their families and homes to go randomly off to spread this hoax, and to be persecuted and put to death for it? Even though they didn't have to, and they know it's nonsense?
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>>74449666
the devils number will not fool me
Jesus was not Jewish in the meaning we know today, it's bullshit repeatedly told to Christian voters in America to support Israel.
>>74449721
To be honest most people believe in God, but many are not practising. Still there is a lot of churches and everyday sunday they are full of people, not to mention there are also masses on every day of the week. Also beacuse of all this muslim drama in Europe I see more and more people return to the traditional values of faith beacuse they see that's the only weapon against EU cultural marxism.
All good for you and your girlfriend, to be honest I was raised as catholic, but losed my faith when I was a teenager and became (what I think I was) an agnostic. After some years I've met my girlfriend, a beautiful, student of medicine who started to ask me to go with her to the masses. This was at the same time when I realized how the Jews mock the Christian religion, while promoting Islam in the Western world, so I returned to the Father's Home also.
>>74449737
>With regards to Pope Francis, he is a bad pope and there have been many bad popes throughout time, it's not the end of the church or anything.
Excatly what I was saying before, Church has it ups and down, but it can't break our faith.
>>74449798
>hurr just act like a decent person
yeaah I've heard that before all with all this tolerant bullshit for the cultures that want to kill me.
>>74449954
>flag
told ya who wants you to throw away your faith.
Just look at countries who resigned from Christianity like the Western World, and then compare it with the countries that still praise the Lord.
>>74451288
Or just look at my pic rel and think if you rather have there a moon instead of the cross? With hijab scum sitting next to it?
>>74450344
this
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>>74451818
>>74451264
The faith of Christianity rests on this random guy existing in a city performing slight of hand mind tricks

Sect leader got culled because of his shenanigans.
Followers exaggerate the death:

>>74450477
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>>74451909
http://pastebin.com/bN1ujq2x
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>>74451700
So you're saying they believed whatever they were told, which is exactly what you're doing right now.

Islam is essentially the next Christianity, if they win they will erase anything that had to do with anything other than Islam which is exactly what Christianity did when they won most of the world.

An imaginary being has helped no one, its the people that bind together as a group under the one banner that does anything. Even then it can depend on certain freaks who provide certain advantages.
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>>74449378
Catholicism does this too.

There is no verse that states priest can't marry, no verse that prohibits contraception that isn't abortifacent, even the whole papal seat is extrapolation. Same goes for papal infallibility which wasn't ex catedra until 1870.

I respect tradition but it does seem like the Catholic church just shifts goalposts when convenient and then just covers the biblical inconsistencies with "tradition". Protestant churches are way off mark too though. I think Luther made some good points desu but it seems like most proddy churches these days are like summer camp.

I'm Catholic but thinking about giving orthodox a try. Seems more biblically consistent to me. If we can know a tree by its fruits then there is something wrong coming from the Vatican considering how abuse was handled and the widespread guilt and unfaithfulness of most of Catholicism followers.
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>>74452061
Maybe because they, as typical for Jews, were attention whores and liked making up shit?

When we can agree on the Holohoax the Crucifiction isn't that far off.

>>74452069
Do you think the kikes would drop the tale of Auschwitz if faced with torture or death? :^) Because I don't. It's perfectly possible to convince yourself of a lie to a point where you're willing to die for it.

Otherwise Islam would be just as valid as your story, but it isn't for some reason, right?
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>>74452061
Thing is they dont know its nonsense, they believe that heavily as do all who follow a faith blindly. People will always want what is best for them and to them serving in this life gives them a glorious afterlife.
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>>74451913
>Lutherans
>A FUCKING SCALLOP SHELL
>Scripture alone interpretation
Basically Catholics. Fuck em'

Anglicans can still go fuck themselves just because they are diet Lutherans.

And fuck you we'll keep the goddamned Gays. Prima Scriptura nigger that means we get to have some leeway with the scripture's interpretation. That means we don't have to burn Gays at the stake anymore. If they love God they are always welcome with us.
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>there are people on /pol/, in this thread, RIGHT NOW, who don't realize atheism is a tool used by globalists and cultural Marxists to divide and fracture nations
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>>74452141
Thanks. May you dwell in the house of Yehova forever.
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>>74451557
Mijn vriend, met vriendelijke groeten van me voor je
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>>74452335
>first Christian emperor of Rome split the empire in half.
>the schism of catholic and protestant chuch killed 60% of the German population.
>atheism has been around before Christianity.

What you're saying doesn't make sense.
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>>74452335
Atheist is the name given to people who dont serve a god. It essentially means dont believe in a higher power.

I personally just call it living my own life.
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>>74448392
I am now a #christcuckle
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>>74452184
>>74452278

>So you're saying they believed whatever they were told
No, not at all, especially since the initially witnesses were women. They outright refused to believe until they witnessed it.

I live in America, I'm not worried about Islam taking over here.

>>74452272
>Maybe because they, as typical for Jews, were attention whores and liked making up shit?
Not at the cost of being ostracized from their communities and being persecuted to death, no

>>74452325
Maybe you should try following Christ's unchanging teaching instead of the CURRENT YEAR. When you're ready, consider the Orthodox Church
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>>74452468
Atheists have been around before religions were invented
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>>74452579
>women

Oh shit son, maybe he just dicked them and told them he'd give them shit.
Its starting to sound like he's the original nigger.
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>>74452579
You faggot it is the sick man who needs a doctor most. You suggest we're "CURRENT YEAR" tier for refusing to turn gays away? Are you without sin?
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>>74452335
this
they don't just give you atheism they give you the new religion as Marx in the old days.
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>>74452408
Dankie broer, terug na jou!
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>>74452579
>Not at the cost of being ostracized from their communities and being persecuted to death, no

Anyone else loving the underlaying leftist principle of "I'm a victim therefore what I'm saying is true" here?
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>>74452678
Why do you think we turn gays away? We don't, we just also hold that stance that homosexual intercourse is always immoral, full stop, and a sin. All of us sin, but the point is the recognize these sins as opposed to excuse them.
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>>74452824
My point is that they believe it is true.
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>>74452950
Yes and so do moslems when they blow themselves up.

I'm not going to pray to Mecca though because of that.
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Also fml

http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/5337793207
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>>74452579
>women as witnesses

Well, that's reliable. Hearsay from one babushka to another. That's solid.
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>>74448638
It's up to personal preference. But believing that Jesus died for your sins is the start and finish of the Christian faith.
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>>74452272
>Do you think the kikes would drop the tale of Auschwitz if faced with torture or death?

yes who would die for just a few shekkels

>Otherwise Islam would be just as valid as your story, but it isn't for some reason, right?

What has islam to do with the 12 apostles getting tortured and killed for what they have seen in the time with jesus? i dont know that the witnesses of muhamad's where tortured and killed, islamist today rely on faith of their book, the disciples did not
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>>74453042
Okay, so what you're saying is, they hallucinated it?
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>>74449378
Catholicism is polytheism.
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>>74453206
>yes who would die for just a few shekkels

This isn't about dying for a few shekels but about upholding a lie.

People have died for all kinds of reasons, but them dying for those reasons don't validate those reasons if them dying for it is the only kind of "evidence" you have for it.

>>74453213
No, I'm saying they were dedicated liars.
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>>74453549
>No, I'm saying they were dedicated liars.
Make up your mind, here you said they believed it
>>74453042
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>>74453527
Catholicism is just the old Roman Empire, it never truly disappeared it just changed names. All the old pantheon just became the saints.
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Anon, do yourself a favour and try to pray and talk with God, maybe even attend a mass on Sunday?
I know they told you it stupid- the media, the celebrites, the movies, all this cool people that said God is dead and we don't need him.. but just try and maybe you will find peace in heart?
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>>74452580
i'm gonna need proof of this
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>>74453549
>This isn't about dying for a few shekels but about upholding a lie.

what lie ?you do know that the holohoax jews really dont know that there where gassing or not. just be a jew tattoo some numbers on your arm get money from germany
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>>74448173
Is it weird that I'm technically an atheist but still support christianity while calling them out on their bullshit?
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>>74453962
That just means you value Christian morals
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>>74453962
No, not weird at all. Islam is the biggest threat to western civilization. Christianity has been integral to western civilization. It allows for atheists like us to exist in the modern era.
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>>74453602
You can believe a lie. After all, you do too. You don't mind lying about having evidence for it, when all you have is "historicity" and "the universe exists therefore the christian god is real and the bible is the truth" >>74449015

Why act as if they were any different than you? Or that you are that much different to them? There's clearly a pattern of both lying and believing the lies.
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>>74453886
Atheist = Someone who doesn't believe in a god/s

How would one have proof of this. Its not like they make a statue of their god, books of their god, pictures of their god, since they have none.

The first 'religions' would have been to oneself then would be told via whatever communication they had then popular ones would have more followers.

Its almost like we've been exactly the same through entire human history.
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>>74453888
>what lie ?

The Crucifiction.
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>>74453962
Not weird at all, you can be godless and not be a complete degenerate. Though its up to your own will rather than a group collective and its also up to whatever laws your culture follows or you choose to follow.
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>>74454359
You saying Christians have no free will?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpEQD03fvSY
based buzzfeed shows how stupid the catholics are heh just look at them they do this stupid awkard things and don't let their children to sleepover at friends.
Maaan catholicism sucks, good that my greatest ally told me that
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>>74448173
> Quotes forged "letter of Paul" as centerpoint of posting about egeneracy.

So much fail
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>>74448173
well its good you remember your roots and culture.

by here in Denmark we have never really been that god fearing. One of the many reason we turned protestant. Still something like 77% of Danes are members of the church and pay church taxes.
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>>74454318

so they lied about that then got tortured and killed for a lie, this makes perfect sense


>And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly.

how did peter die ? crucified upside down on a cross to suffer worst then jesus
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>>74454528
In what regards and how deep is said person's faith.
People blinded by faith have no free will when it comes to politics and certain choices in life.
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>Christianity
>Not Roman and Greek cultures
Marius, get the crosses. ALL OF THEM
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>>74454702
>state a thesis
>don't give evidence
>assume you just won an argument
are you a feminist?
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>>74452211
Keep in mind Catholics compiled the bible home boy
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>>74454795
People just making shit up and retards believing that shit makes more sense than the christian theology, that's for sure.
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>>74449378
Admittedly that is an argument, and you're not just a LARPing /pol/ack who gets religious instruction from Wikipedia and RT. It is a shit argument though:
>Protestantism is heresy, it changes scripture
Protestantism has always held the scriptures in higher regard than Catholics. Sola scriptura.
>interprets the bible to mean what ever they want
Catholics don't do this because Catholics don't read the Bible. The Vatican has tried to stop people reading it for a thousand years.
>the billions of different forms of protestantism
They differ on minor points, just like Foot Fetish Francis and Based Mel Gibson differ on minor points. I read Rorate Caeli and it's obvious that the Catholic Church isn't as united as they make out.
>The Catholic Church is the one holy apostolic church that was founded by Jesus and Peter.
What about the Orthodox churches?
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>>74454821
>People blinded by faith have no free will when it comes to politics and certain choices in life.
Why? How? All I'm seeing are buzzwords coined by /r/atheism
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>>74451657
He didn't say anything about doubles though you stupid cunt.
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>>74448173
Daily reminder that atheism is the fastest growing faith

Daily reminder that this trend will likely continue

Daily reminder that your faith is doomed
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>>74455020

there is a guy who used to think like that check his channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENtlW-LEqu8
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>>74455214
this
they are implying (not to mention they focus on christians, because saying anything about jews or muslim would be racist of course) that christians don't make their own choices and that we are some kind of brainwashed idiots, opposite to the glorious and enlighten atheists.
But you know what? Your atheist countries are dying cucked by muslim and jewish dick, while my bad Catholic Poland is getting better and better.
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>>74455488
thanks shlomo, forgot to mention that my race will also perish
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>>74455662
>this guy used to think like you but then something happened and now he thinks like me, that's why you should listen to him so that you can think like me as well

Convincing.
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>>74450176
What should I read by Kierkegaard
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>>74456069

i have been a atheist for 30 years nothing is Convincing.. but at least i tried , he also bashes islam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91AM7665cbo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA6XcyXsxXU
Here you've got an example of country that throwned down their heritage.
Now you can't even walk some with cross- the symbol on your flag
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>>74455734
>Image
Stupid propaganda. Polish right wingers are usually drunk, violence families. Also, you pick Wrocław in this picture-most liberal city in Poland, moron
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Last week i came from work, and saw a rainbow form exactly from my house, and ended on a church from the neighboor village.

That proved for me that god is real and has plans for me.
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>>74456670
>Polish right wingers are usually drunk, violence families
your family don't eqaul to all of them
but nice try żydku
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>>74448173
Religion = dumb cunts claiming that they know how the universe works because they read 1 old book.
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>>74456700

that is some bulshit mate god literally saved my life fuck your rainbow
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>>74456700
Rainbow is actually a symbol of God
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>>74457111

stolen now by faggots
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>>74457220
that's true but they can't steal the rainbow in the sky
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>>74456386

london has fallen with each passing day shit is getting worse
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>>74457642
>>74457642
http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2016/03/30/sadiq-khan-there-are-too-many-white-men-on-transport-for-lon
>new muslim mayor
>he's first issue are white men
but hey, hooray for atheism and diversity
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>>74448173

Christianity is not the foundation of white culture, whites are the foundation of white culture, and Christianity actually caused the first collapse of white culture with the decay and fall of the Roman Empire, which white culture only recovered from during the HUMANISTIC renaissance and enlightenment movements.
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>>74458780
The Roman Empire was corrupted, weak country, facing constant attacks from germanic tribes. It had to fall with or without the Christianity.
But then we had the Holy Roman Empire
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>>74459237
Piss off, Catholic cuck
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>>74459237

Christianity was what weakened the Roman Empire.
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>>74459391
uuu turbosłowian czy fedora?
>>74459494
yeah the bad christians came and suddendly the nobles started to be greedy, the empire couldn't defend it big borders, and the worst of all is that this awful christians made the generals make intrige
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>>74457824
Churches are the ones that shelter rapefugees
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>>74460038
I thought it was Merkel but damnn sorry.
But there was one church in Poland that took refugees. All of them escaped to Germany strange
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>>74455284
Check'm always means doubles.
Nice try Muhummad
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>>74459929

The Christians came and promoted weakness, forgiveness, "turning the other cheek" and cuckoldry.

It eroded pagan Roman values of strength and honor.

Constantine was the first Roman emperor to convert to Christianity, he also weakened the legions. During his reign the Empire began to collapse its borders, and the framework for the Empire splitting in 2 was established.

Before Constantine they used to throw Christians to lions in the arena. By the time Rome converted to Christianity Gladiatorial combat was banned.
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>>74448173
>foundation of white culture.
Christianity is nothing more than the Jew's way of cucking western man. I can prove this because they are doing the same to the asians now and record numbers are converting.

Don't get me wrong, there in nothing wrong with spirituality, but why do you need to worship a jew on a stick? If you think Christianity is "deep", it's only because you haven't read Plato.

If you read the Edda's, that is true white man religion right there. If you read the Tipitaka, that is the only "religion" that is actually concerned with the divine(which socrates tried to reach but ultimately failed, however Plato might have as are indicated in his Letters). Some parts of the Bible is ok, but a lot of it is hypnosis & complete draught of spirituality.
>>
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>>74461664
Revelation 3:20 (ESV):
"Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me."
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>>74448173
Amen, brother.

>>74448638
Orthodoxy > Catholicism > High church Protestantism (Calvinism or the like) > Anything else
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>>74448173
Being content with what you have, not questioning anything stated by your religion, sharing with everyone and taking it in the ass and not fighting back is as marxist as it gets.

Stay cucked, buddy. I can assure you that our kike-driven government loves it.
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>>74449213
Protestants hold an untenable position. They are literally "protesters" against the Church. The Bible even warns against such strife: "Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are... enmities, strife... disputes, dissensions, factions... and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God."

There are so many reasons why Protestantism is in error, but here are a few:

10 Reasons to Reject the Protestant Reformation:

http://shamelesspopery.com/reason-1-to-reject-the-reformation-the-canon-of-scripture/
http://shamelesspopery.com/reason-2-to-reject-the-reformation-scriptural-interpretation/
http://shamelesspopery.com/reason-3-to-reject-the-reformation-the-visible-church/
http://shamelesspopery.com/reason-4-to-reject-the-reformation-ecumenical-councils/
http://shamelesspopery.com/reason-5-to-reject-the-reformation-the-church-fathers/
http://shamelesspopery.com/reason-6-to-reject-the-reformation-patristic-scriptural-exegesis/
http://shamelesspopery.com/reason-7-to-reject-the-reformation-history/
http://shamelesspopery.com/reason-8-to-reject-the-reformation-heterodoxy/
http://shamelesspopery.com/reason-9-to-reject-the-reformation-logical-fallacies/
http://shamelesspopery.com/reason-10-to-reject-the-reformation-the-grand-finale/
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>>74448984
There's no reason for such a position since everything is to be accepted in light of Tradition. The real problem is that we have many unfaithful and pseudo Catholics in the Church. These are the sources of present villainy.

Some helpful links that put these things into perspective:

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/davearmstrong/2013/09/dialogue-on-whether-ecumenical-council.html
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/davearmstrong/2012/12/definitions-radical-catholic-reactionaries-mainstream-traditionalists-and-supposed-neo-catholics.html
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There are four God given restraints to mankind's corrupt nature.

1. Conscience
2. Parenthood
3. Society and laws
4. The church

Look at how all four are under attack and you will see that the corruption and degradation of society isn't niggers, Jews, feminists, SJWS, cultural marxists etc. This is a spiritual war of fallen man and Satan vs. God and his children. Fallen man HATES God, HATES Jesus, HATES Christians, HATES everything that is good and righteous and loves everything that is evil. It is mans nature to wear away at the restraints until they are gone. A perfect example is the homosexual movement. They do not value rights in and of themselves or they would defend also the rights of Christians to their beliefs. No. They want broad acceptance of their lifestyle and power over Christians and the church and freedom from their consciences.

Join the side of light. Join the children of God. Submit yourselves to God's will and accept Christ.
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>>74449107
Faith is the belief in things unseen.

Seek God and you will find.

Anything less is a personal excuse to continue in your sin.
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>>74449427
Two words

John Macarthur
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>>74449115
>Our entire schism was mainly about whether or not being the bishop of Rome guaranteed you that kind of authority
Filoque man. Filoque.
Also, Council of Florence.
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>>74448392

then any faith is legitimate just like your Muslim brothers my theist friend
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>>74448173
>A semitic desert cult is the foundation of white culture

Christians are as bad as marxists when it comes to destroying and rewriting history.
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>>74455030
http://www.protestanterrors.com/
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>>74466645

well Christianity in its roots is Semitic but the Romans and their successors molded it to look very European.
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>>74448173
Poland is the equivalent of the white knight fedora guy, that pretends to value and respect women, but in reality is never getting anywhere nearnto plowing one.
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