>Earlier this year, a dramatic change was made to the nation’s military policies that opened nearly all combat roles to women. The next question to follow was, if women are eligible to participate in all combat roles, should selective service enrollment be made mandatory for women as well?
>But being a feminist doesn't have to mean standing up for sending our daughters to war.
>I am a feminist, and I do not support including women in selective service.
>When you are not included in something that no one wants to do — in this case, going off to war — it’s not discrimination; it’s a privilege. Some say women should give up that privilege in the name of equality between men and women. But here’s the thing about equality: Men and women are not equal.
>That’s right — I’m a feminist, I am a mother of two girls, and I am saying that men and women are not equal.
>In the event of a draft, sending women off to war does not present an equal opportunity to women by nature of the fact that women are physically different from men. As much as we may work to try to level the playing field between men and women, the physical differences between us as created by nature make us inherently unequal and cannot be universally overcome. Combat is not an equal opportunity situation for men and women, because the average woman does not have an equal opportunity to survive a combat situation. The Army's own studies have shown that women have more than double the rate of injury of their male counterparts in combat training. I can only imagine that those numbers would be even more dramatic in actual combat. I can't fathom sending my daughters off to fight in an already dangerous situation, where they are known to be at a physical disadvantage.
"I want equality until it doesn't benefit me."
>>74436121
Hi Israel.
>>74436221
Doesn't everyone.
>>74436227
Hi uncle Cash - err, Uncie Sam
The only people who support this are MGTOW wannabe-faggots, literal faggots & r9k spree shooters
No draft for women
No female soldiers
>>74436121
But does she support allowing women in combat roles in general?
Because if she doesn't, I see nothing wrong with this.
>>74436382
What's wrong with women going into combat? With equal rights come equal responsibilities, there is no equality until everyone's on the same footing. And sending women into combat may very well be the thing that makes us truly equal.
>>74436121
Cool story, you wanna run with the boys (most of you can't keep up) gotta follow the rules (stop being whiny cunts). I'm sure your daughters will make great barracks rats and get their way using their strengths under the desks of their seniors.
>>74436595
If they can hold their own without whining it's fine, most are incapable of this and can't handle grunt life
>>74436595
Equal rights are full of shit and when feminists are campaigning for equal rights you DON'T turn around and say "ok equal draft"
Draft isn't a right anyway, it's a duty
>>74436121
Seriously, I don't believe I could fight with a woman the way I could with a man.
We are born with the instinct to protect them, if shit hits the fan we will focus on protecting them, instead of doing our job.
I believe mixed units won't operate as well as all male or all female units.
>>74436327
Can someone tell me the country of this flag. I'm on mobile and can't see shit.
I see something like a sampling or some shit
>>74436851
this
girls can be pilots or technicians or some shit. i have an asian girl friend who is an engineer in the air force. no combat but does her job well. just like in games, they should be support roles.
>>74436851
Deal with a female officer or enlisted for a months on deployment, trust me you'll be fine with cunt punting or throat punching most of them. Corpsman females can be pretty chill though.
>>74436763
>Draft isn't a right anyway, it's a duty
You get rights but fulfilling your duty. Otherwise you're a leech.
>>74436904
Gilbraltar
>>74436332
*rubs hands*
Remember, Shlomo, we had a deal. Don't put out on me or I'll backstab you. ;)
>>74436904
That is your dad's Spanish colony called Gibraltar.
>>74436716
They'll do it or face prison time.
>>74436763
Equal rights, equal responsibilities. And draft is a responsibility. Just so we're clear, I believe that men and women are equal to one another, despite minor physical differences and they should be held to same standard. I feel it's perverse to say the least that there are women in high positions in government who have a say on whether men should die for their country or not, yet the women are not obligated to do the same.
>>74436851
That's why they'd be placed in all-female units. Not necessarily in the thickest of actions, but providing support and holding their flank nevertheless.
>>74436121
>Israel
>complaining that women won't get drafted to die for him
im conflicted in that I want you to die but I also want miserable cunts to die.
>>74437038
It's ok for women to be leeches
>>74437041
>>74437084
>Literally Canada in 20 years after the wall is built
>>74437127
Men are more expendable than women
>>74436121
You did this you kike.
>>74437127
I'm in the army now and I can tell you women make shitty mechanics, you do not want them "supporting" you. In the army you basically need combat, mechanics/techs, medical, and desk. Women can only seem to handle the desk.
>>74436851
I don't believe you could fight at all, faggot.
>>74437153
No it isn't. Women used to have duties.
>>74437275
>facts
Wait they suck as medics?, the corpsmen were pretty good at sick call but I guess that's desk tier medical.
>>74436121
I think if there is another draft, it should be entirely women.
>>74437216
You are a femanon. How are you doing today, femanon?
It looks like it won't be passed now anyways. Too many people are too scared of women having hurt feelings by being drafted, so women will continue to only have "equality" when it benefits them, as another poster so aptly pointed out.
>>74436121
Too bad fuckgirl you either get equality or you can live with the fact sometimes women don't want to be computer programmers by choice
You can't have both
>>74437377
Yeah, let's let them all synch up and have crew served weaponry that'll work out great for us.
>>74436121
You do realize there are other roles in the military other then combat, right? That's just one cog in a massive machine. There's logistics, machanics, etc. I say women can be drafted. They'll just get different roles.
>>74436121
>about to make a serious post
>see flag
FUCK
OFF
KIKE
>>74437275
What's to stop creating an-all female regiment?
>>74436121
Nah let women go off to fight war. There will be propaganda videos of entire female units being captured and gangraped. Hell I'm sure they can make a business out of that to get more funding for their terror cells. "Hey Ackmed bring over the camel, dis gunna be gud." Besides, when shit his the fan they'll just start carpet bombing areas in retaliation for their lost female soldiers.
>>74437456
You do realise this means women will fill up all non combat roles and force more men to be killed right?
>>74437355
I guess I should have drawn the line between combat medic and sick call, but basically yeah, you got it.
They just don't do well, I don't know why they don't have the same drive as men do to get shit done, but they don't. At least in my experience.
>>74437498
The fact they'll say the male units need to accept them too eventually.
>>74436121
I for one would like to thank the American military for this incredible bluff
>>74437397
Fuck off you silly shitting leaf
>basic fucking instincts
>basic fucking intellect
>rudimentary understanding of evolution
>any understanding of reproduction
They should be drafted to be bred with our best soldiers so we can maintain our army come ww3
>>74436904
>not using clover
Women shouldn't be allowed in the military nor should they be required to register for the draft.
>>74437532
Spatial awareness, and ability to concentrate on a task. They do better at multitasking, that's why the desk is better.
>>74437548
But mixed teams break the unit cohesion. Men can't be men without the woman potentially hurting her feelings, I've seen this many times. It just doesn't work.
>>74437589
Yet they got one and were successfully shielded from the other.
You want to fix this problem feminist have destroying everything? You absolutely must fucking stop protecting them from their own mistakes.
Otherwise you're a goddamn enabler.
>>74437498
All female regiment would be attached to a regular unit and destroy everything
>>74437521
If there is ever a need for a draft, the swell of new positions would probably offset that to be equal. Assuming both men and women are being drafted in equal amounts.
>>74437521
>more men to be killed right?
so if women were in the us army during ww2 more men would have died ? how?
your statement is fucking retarded
>>74436382
Drafts are for when they need cannon fodder, not real trained soldiers. So everyone should be acceptable.
Feminists love a draft for men for three reasons: 1) They get to bitch about "wah so sexist why no draft for men", 2) They get to bitch that war itself is sexist and patriarchal, and most of all 3) They get to fantasize about men getting slaughtered in horrific ways.
What I say is, either draft for everyone, or draft for nobody. No middle ground.
>>74436904
Spain
>>74437560
You've been reading too much Gears of War, son.
>>74437377
This. How about trench war for feminists? Would be great.
>>74436121
Cool, boys have to sign up for the draft at age 18 if they want to vote, but nah not women. They only want to be equal when it benefits them. You either go all the way and have to sign up for the draft, or stay out of the military entirely if you're so unfit to be a part of it.
>>74437453
I think of it like this: draft entirely women and let the news cycle show their dead bodies and being sex slaves for the enemy. The nation will go crazy about their precious little girls being subjected to what men have been subjected to for thousands of years and there is a very good chance there will never be a draft again. The "women are equal" narrative will finally be shown for what it really is on multiple levels, a lie.
Replace racist with sexist and my point is further illustrated.
>>74437690
>women as cannon fodder
Are you black or just muslim?
>>74437633
Also a woman can't piss in a bottle during transport in a moving APC.
>>74437650
The way to protect women from their mistakes is to revoke the franchise from them not get them sent off to be raped and killed.
>implying the female brain ever evolved to deal with life or death situations
They never really faced them. The men got wiped out and the women got raped. That's bronze age warfare.
>>74437748
Is it really rape when the women just submit to the winning side for their own survival?
>>74437560
To be honest lad good soldiers are made and trained, not necessarily born. There's an element of physicality (you can't be a short, fat fuck) but it's all leadership and training. Although please do send comfort women
>>74437729
I'm just a fucking leaf.
>>74437589
Then they shouldn't also receive the right to vote in your country. Maybe make a concession for married women and widows.
Either woman are inherently different from men, meaning there are certain tasks they are less inclined or able to perform as a group.
Or they are not different, and should be expected to do everything men are forced to do, including going to war, just as well as the jobs that are more desirable.
You can't have it both ways. Pick one or the other.
Oh fantastic idea. Let's conscript women (aka: people who can give birth) and throw them onto the battlefield where they can be gangraped and forced to breed the enemies' spawn. Thanks "equality"
>>74437933
I agree but in the meantime under no circumstances should women be sent into combat.
>>74437819
It's rape at first.
After that it's business as usual.
They just take a different color of dick.
>>74438212
How about a compromise. Only the ugly and obese women should be sent into combat.
>>74438274
How about only active feminists get sent, in line with their own implied wish to be treated the same as men?
>>74438274
No.
>>74438359
Throw in SJWs and you have a deal. Just sign on the dotted line.
>>74437555
That's not a proper answer. If women want to use that as an excuse not to be drafted, then they must give up their privileges feminism has granted them. Then all will be well.
>>74437819
What is rape even?
If you want a nation to survive during a war, you do not use women as cannon fodder. You only need one man to impregnate several women and guarantee the next generation of civilians.
It's common sense.
>>74436121
>Wants equality
>"I am a feminist....I am saying men and women are not equal."
You ever wonder if that type of double-think drives them slowly to madness, or were they mad to begin with and this topic of bullshit fit their style of crazy perfectly?
Then they shouldn't vote.
Would fix a lot of issues either way.
No women voting or less women voting. Either way is good.
>>74436121
>star of glavid
toomuchjew:dnr
Stop relying on LITERALLY everybody else to fight your battles for you.
>>74436121
to bad you wont shut up about equality and feminist wont admit women are not equal to men so this is how it is
>>74438505
I ultimately agree with you, but that's a convenient excuse ready to be used when equality is demanded.
I don't know about France, but here women make up not only the majority of the electorate and the majority of those who vote. So, if we have a President who uses the draft, women voted for it, but they don't share in the consequences of it. Equality is nothing more than a buzzword that allows women to reap the benefits and shrug off the responsibilities.
>>74436121
>"Let me into the army you shitlords, there is no real difference between the sexes, women are just as good soldiers as men"
>"You expect me to actually fight? B-but men have bigger muscle mass and have more endurance. Women aren't meant to fight."
How has she not gone insane from these kind of mental gymnastics?
>>74438799
what is the point of this play exactly
>>74437578
I am using clover actually, it just doesn't tell me flags.
What bootleg copy are you using
>>74439056
Satire at the time of womens political thoughts on the nature of the state.
To warn us that even in ancient athens, bitches naturally want Socialism/communism.
>>74436382
Fuck that my good sir. I have a two year old daughter and I fully support this. While I don't like the thought that my daughter will have to a selective service ID when she reaches the age of 18, it would be grossly unfair to my son (future, should me and my wife sire a son later on in life) and any man who has to obtain one merely on the grounds of " But I'm a woman! WAAAAAH!!!" If they so badly want all the "luxuries" that comes with being on equal footing with men, then they should also be made to brunt the burdens as well. Maybe when they see just how horrifying the those burdens can e first hand will they reconsider their stance on equality.
>>74439173
so how did that system work out for them
overaged dodger here
eat shit walking vaginas, you wanted this
>>74439320
It didn't. Because it wasn't real socialism. It was Fem-Capitalism.
>>74436121
get rekt bitches.
>>74437216
Yes, because for thousands upon thousands of years, mankind has been able to reproduce asexually.
>>74439438
so at the end of the play greece collapsed?
what happened?
>>74438485
The natural right of any living thing stronger than it's prey.
>>74436121
Fuck women in the army. Unless they are forced to just like the men.
I hope they do get drafted.
>>74438505
>If you want a nation to survive during a war, you do not use women as cannon fodder.
If you want a nation to survive you need to limit female influence over politics. What's the better way to achieve that goal than scaring women away from politics with a possibility of a gruesome combat experience?
>>74436382
a lot of people in the military support this. if they want combat roles, they should be in the draft.
>>74439678
The Romans came and then it began all over again.
>>74439848
I am a firm believer that all of the "feminists", dykes, trans of all kinds, and land whales need to be handed a pack and a rifle and droped into whatever shithole we are currently trying to pave - to earn the right right to express whatever mental disease mascaraing as a lifestyle they think they deserve that month.
Men are more expendable than women. We can repopulate a country with 50 women and 1 man but cannot with 1 woman and 50 man. So that's one of the traditional reasons women weren't sent to war.
On the other hand, our western governments have found a new way to repopulate countries if women are scarce- just ship them in by the boatload from third world countries.
>>74437153
It's okay to be a leech if you rescind all your rights.
>>74440389
>our western governments have found a new way to repopulate countries if women are scarce- just ship them in by the boatload from third world countries.
I know it can be hard to tell with third world "women", but those boatloads are men. They're there to replace you.
>>74440389
Love pointing this out to feminazi scum...
>~200,000 years of women being resources
>~150 years of suffrage and slight empowerment
But sure honey, your gravy train is unstoppable, you're a special little snowflake.
>>74440569
What I meant was, if ww3 happened and women were drafted to war like men and the female populations of first world/western countries declined they would just take women (and men too) from the third world as a replacement. Since apparently in iur day and age that is a-ok.
>>74440665
Although, in both of our countries cases we had proven that we can also just go into whoevers' land and move their sticks, mud, and garbage out of our way and own all of the resources including the women.
>>74437127
>They'll do it or face prison time.
They'll do it or suck a higher-up's dick to get out of doing it. Meanwhile you're a man having to pick up their slack, and this is the society you are supposed to be fighting for.
>>74437835
I hope that's fake
>>74440842
Well the past is the past. In your and mine country alike people like to whinge about the injustices done to the natives. So if we're supposed to learn from our past mistakes I don't know why it's okay to do the same thing to western countries and eradicate native European populations. Where's the liberals whinging about that injustice.
>>74441015
It is not.
http://www.snopes.com/hillary-clinton-victims-of-war/
>>74436382
The right answer is draft for no one.
No one should be proud to be dragged into modern moneychanger combat. You can be proud of the men in your military but don't pretend we aren't all being fucked in the cunt and taken for a ride by men who would never send their sons and daughters to war.
Draft for no man. The only draft a country needs is the one that comes when the enemy lands in your country and in that time it makes sense to take up arms with your neighbours.
Draft should be not at all or only for defense on your own soil anything else is moneychangers folly.
>>74436121
>we should be able to serve because we're equal, but not get drafted because we're actually not equal
>>74439062
Nigger what are you talking about
Tap the three vertical dot button thing next to where it says how long ago a post was made. Then, tap Info on the popup bar thing. It'll say the poster's country.
>>74441125
I think a good solution, aside from or in combination with my above statement, is to put only the names and records of every elected official's of age child and grandchild into the draft.
>>74436121
you can't make this shit up
As if all men are 6'2 behemoths and all women are tiny fragile little puppets
The average hipster faggot is no more combat ready than the average woman nowadays
>>74436121
>equality
>draft for women
>men and women are not equal
Yeah, go fuck yourself OP
I thought in Israel military service was mandatory for everyone and Israel is basically one big warzone.
>>74441288
It's a canadian, stop poking it with a stick and it'll go away.
>>74436221
in modern warfare its mainly about your capacity to operate kinetic weapons (aka guns) so not much strength, so i have to agree with this bloke
>>74436221
Fpbp
>>74436121
You only get a vote if you register for a draft in case of war. Democracy fixed.
Well, atleast she can admit that women are physically inferior to men. Maybe someday they will realize that this isn't the only difference between a man and a woman.
On the subject of women doing military service and being drafted, why not just make them do some alternative service? In Finland we can choose between the military and civilian service and in civilian service the physical differences wouldn't be a disadvantage.
>>74436904
you have weebshits shits on your mobile? idiot.
>>74441125
This is the most rational stance when it comes to draft tb.h
>>74436121
