Did the Armenian Genocide happen?
>>74406142
no
>inb4 t.roach
>>74406841
gotta up your bait game Hans
>>74406142
The Kardashians are around aren't they?
>>74406142
Who cares? When the fuck has Armenia done anything of note to make you mourn one of them being killed?
>>74407124
http://ria.am/en/about-armenia/inventions-of-armenians.html
>>74406947
is this real
>>74406841
t. roach
>>74406841
t. roach
>>74409553
t. gypsy
Of course not.
t. Cenk Uygur
It was caused by Dominicans destabilizing Armenia and genocide innocent Armenians.
Dominicanism: Not even once.
what does she tihnk?
>>74406841
Nice try mohammad.
>>74409629
good boy, don't let em talk bad about the great turan race
>>74409553
sandu ciorba is romania's national icon
>>74409751
R A R E
A
R
E
Of course, Muslims are addicted to killing after all.
>>74409751
that isnt even the current flag why the fuck is it that is the geo flags thing that unupdated?
>>74409629
t. sweden
>>74409751
nice
>>74406142
Not relevant
>>74409969
>>74409842
t. Cobra Cat
>>74409842
Don't act like I never seen what you cockroaches did
>>74406142
>Armenian Genocide
It is happening as we speak.
>>74407124
>http://ria.am/en/about-armenia/inventions-of-armenians.html
read above faggot.
what have turds done theres 70 million of them. kek
>>74410111
sorry man, I'm out of sniffable patrol, come later
>>74410113
dindu nuffin :^)
>>74409751
What even the fuck is that flag wew I thought I saw all the rare flags.
>>74409945
Yeah we have this for a long time every time I post I cringe a bit
>>74410254
If I was you I keep watch on your railroads buddy
>>74409969
turks are like cockroaches
cant get rid of them
theyre mudslimes in suites.
and theyre smell and theyre monghols from the mountains who love to rape women and men. and goats.
>>74409751
What is this? I'm on mobile
>>74410069
shilling for your steppe cousins eh?
>>74406142
kek
of course it happened
Who cares? I'm going to hate roaches either way tbqh
>>74406142
nah, there is no proof of intention to kill all armenians
was it a horrible thing, ethnic cleansing and all thet good shit? yeah sure, but then again most countries are born on stuff like that
>>74410424
>>74410335
no need to worry for that since all the rails got stolen by the gyppos
>>74410948
>>74406841
Get the FUCK out of Germany.
>>74410918
>ah, there is no proof of intention to kill all armenians
Yes, but they certainly knew what was going to happen. It's a case of inexcusable cowardice in a barbarian region. As well as an excuse to shit on turks lel
>>74410918
hey belgian waffle eating faggot, ottomans and armenians lived in peace together for hundreds of years until the young turks wanted to exterminate a group of christiams because m'uslims....smelly fucking mudslime faggots.
violence is in their blood.
>>74411030
>thinking I hate my blood or the blood of my slav brothers
>>74411248
>Yes, but they certainly knew what was going to happen. It's a case of inexcusable cowardice in a barbarian region.
Meh. A couple years ago hundreds of thousands of turks died in the balkans. The Russians kept getting closer with the Armenians in the eastern front. Every guy here with a brain would have done te same thing, send them all away from the front, because every single one of them could have been new potential rebels.
>>74411109
In the 1960s Germany allowed Turks to migrate to Germany on work Visas. 3 million over time moved to Germany.
They don't assimilate and they have the shitty jobs. Germans want them out. They can shove their kebabs up their asses.
Not only do they not assimilate but they are overdue on their visa extensions. GET THE FUCK OUT OF GERMANY TURKFAGS.
>>74411561
>>74411603
Germans didnt really want to do it. Its the US that pressured them into it.
>>74411587
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Armenia_(antiquity)
That land does not belong to monghol turds.
They wiped out the ethnic minorities who had lived there for thousands of years.
faggot.
>>74411851
That's really hypocritical considering your flag.
>>74411394
>lived in peace together for hundreds of years
>violence is in their blood
kek.
also
>live happy together no problems
>ww1 happens
>'' hey guys we're living under the ottoman rule for hundred of years without any problem but let's backstab them while they fight in 50 other batlles. beside russia back us up.
>we wuz genocided and shieet
>>74411587
>Meh. A couple years ago hundreds of thousands of turks died in the balkans.
So? Do you even have a point? The balkans have always been the fucking chaotic shitpot of Europe.
>The Russians kept getting closer with the Armenians in the eastern front. Every guy here with a brain would have done te same thing,
You sound like a Turk tbqh, this is a very weak defense, and most scholars don't even agree with it.
>because every single one of them could have been new potential rebels.
This is lazy fucking thinking.
>>74411716
Yeah nah
>>74411851
welcome to world retard. wars fought land taken. also
>>74411944
>>74406142
>muh 6 gorillian Christians
kek, I hope you guys don't sincerely believe this
>>74411944
At least USA has apologized and has made the world a better place. And also has given tax-free reservations and businesses to the native Amerindians.
Turks deny the Genocide and ethnic cleansing of a minority...on top of that they have a huge lobby in USA to stop any passings of laws to deny the Genocide. $hillary is their biggest puppet.
Obango did the same by denying. Faggots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwR83GZjwdo
>>74411561
no you can't get welfare from my sensitive waifu sweden
>>74411962
>hey guys we're living under the ottoman rule for hundred of years without any problem but let's backstab them while they fight in 50 other batlles. beside russia back us up.
This is such a stupid simplification.
>turks dindu nuffin, we wuz good boyz, we had to xD
>>74412087
>also
The two situations aren't even comparable, although it would be stupid to argue that your land belong to Armenians or anyone else.
>>74406142
The armenians started it by attacking unarmed villages to be fair. The Turks were just better at warfare.
>>74411962
>of
Fuck off smelly kebab eating unibrowed cockstain. The world hates turks and turkey, no one likes you guys. you dont do anything for society. you dont make your environment any better. youre basically worse than the mexicans of the middle east at least mexicans are hard working.
the uk will never accept you in the EU.
>>74412319
>The Turks were just better at warfare.
The turks were just a huge fucking majority. There are so many sycophants for Turkey on this board, it's hilarious.
Yeah, they actually admit the acts, its the term 'genocide' that they disagree with
they figure that since they were acting as enemy combatants, they were killing enemies not committing genocide. But... They were only acting as enemy combatants after mistreatment and oppression, and the vast majority of the dead are civilians like old people, kids and women and babies.
>>74411851
>muh kingdom that existed 15 million years ago
lel
>That land does not belong to monghol turds.
yeah, so thats why armenians tried to get it back, but failed, so if you want it back again, go and start a new war, its not rocket science
>They wiped out the ethnic minorities who had lived there for thousands of years.
tough shit bro!
>>74412071
>So? Do you even have a point? The balkans have always been the fucking chaotic shitpot of Europe.
Its important to consider the psyche of turks in that time
also, most of the crime was done locally by kurds and circassians, circassians, who saw their own ethnic cleansing happend not long ago, went pretty harsh on armenian, not wanting the same to happen again to their own people
>You sound like a Turk tbqh, this is a very weak defense, and most scholars don't even agree with it.
k
>This is lazy fucking thinking.
its a pretty simple thing
>Yeah nah
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastarbeiter
The first Gastarbeiter were recruited from European nations. However Turkey pressured the Federal Republic to allow its citizens to become guest workers.[1] Theodor Blank, Secretary of State for Employment, was opposed to such agreements. He held the opinion that the cultural gap between Germany and Turkey would be too large and also held the opinion that Germany needed no more labourers because there were enough unemployed people living in the poorer regions of Germany who could fill these vacancies. The United States, however, put some political pressure on Germany, wanting to stabilize and create goodwill from a potential ally. The German Department of Foreign Affairs carried on the negotiations after this, and in 1961 an agreement was reached.[6][6]
>>74407926
>is this real
real
>>74412433
Then the armenians should not have started the fight if they were less numerous.
>>74411700
>>74412180
this is also such a stupid point without any argument.
you guys don't know shit about turkish side of the story ( i don't expect you to btw cause who gives a shit rly ) but because armenians like kim enforce world to accept without proving anything and evidence.
>>74412319
because: monghol blood.
armenians have always been peaceful throughout history, they were, unfortunately, always surrounded by islamic cucks followers of 9 year old rapists like muhammod.
seriously no one likes turks
i lived throughout europe everyone laughs at turks. in usa they are unheard of.
>>74412125
>on top of that they have a huge lobby in USA to stop any passings of laws to deny the Genocide. $hillary is their biggest puppet.
The Armenian lobby is the second biggest lobby in America. Or the third biggest, i dont remember. The reason why america does not is for pragmatical reasons, just like israel.
>>74407926
I bet you live in Fresno California
>Syrian Aramean/ South Euro mix here
>>74412321
>nobody loves you
oh shit what we're going to do?and quess what most hated country in the world is USA.
>uk will never accept you in the eu
uk is about leave eu m8 check the news
>>74412319
>The armenians started it by attacking unarmed villages to be fair.
who told you that? your great uncle Hamid?
>>74412464
mudslimes especially of monghol origin love killing the elderly, women and children.
its easy to cut off the heritage line.
not even hitler was this violent with the jews.
>>74412468
>Its important to consider the psyche of turks in that time
Not particularly, it's quite obvious what was going to happen. I'm not one of those idiots who believes "le ebil muzzies killed le goodboy christians," The idea that the Turkish government is compeltely innocent has just always seemed stupid.
>also, most of the crime was done locally by kurds and circassians, circassians,
And the government itself knew it would
>not wanting the same to happen again to their own people
No, there is no excuse for such things, I'm sorry.
>its a pretty simple thing
I guess everything is simple for a simpleton
Your last example is shit, it doesn't even how much of the Turkish population came as a result to that sort of policy
>>74406142
It couldn't have happened because I don't even know where that is
>>74412627
I don't care for Turks but I dislike armenians from my experiences. They're shady and untrustworthy even more so than Turks.
>>74412566
>Then the armenians should not have started the fight if they were less numerous.
What do you mean "the armenians"
SOme members of a group attack, so you persecute an entire ethnic group? completely stupid.
>>>74412614
>this is also such a stupid point without any argument
Ironically, that's exactly what this sentence is.
>you guys don't know shit about turkish side of the story
Everyone knows it, and your "schools" are full to the brim with propaganda.
> but because armenians like kim enforce world to accept without proving anything and evidence.
The western scholars have accepted it for nearly a century now.
>>74412614
turkey has no history its all made up.
especially after atagay.
your history is made up
your people are made up
your alphabet is made up
your culture is made up
youre all goat fuckers in suites.
>>74413027
>. They're shady and untrustworthy even more so than Turks.
They're exactly like Turks, personality wise. You sound like an idiot hillbilly who thinks of turkey as some epic place or something
>>74412614
we know a little about roach history. and stop moving the goalposts - they were christians, you killed them. it's in your nature really. it just so happened that this time you did it after the invention of photography so we CAN prove what you did.
>>74413027
i can't understand how anybody can like armenians. half of them acts like a mafia , they spend shit tons of money and take our time just to take land and money ( which they couldn't take in battle) . Also kardashians.
>>74410573
Your mom
>>74412627
>seriously no one likes turks
One would argue that this position works in the favor of Turkey. As Turkey is doing better economically and other general stuff like human rights etc get fixed, the EU ascension could be a real thing, as in the Armenian lobby can deff make that an important point in the negotiations (im pretty sure it already is).
The more Turkey is hated, the easier it will be for their stance on the armenian issue to continue, because there would be no real reason to change it. Nobody likes Turks yeah, but not because of what happened to Armenians, dont kid yourself. As an Armenian you should hope that Turkey should do much better and be liked, its the only real way you would ever see something positive happen towards Armenia. Highly likely this will never happen.
>>74412944
>The idea that the Turkish government is compeltely innocent has just always seemed stupid.
Like another anon said before in this thread, Turkey does not deny massacres that happened, and the general bad stuff. They just dont see it as a genocide. Erdogan even apologized for what happened to them.
>And the government itself knew it would
Well i mean yeah, who are you going to favor? A people thats out to carve land out of what you own or a people that is on your side? duh
>Your last example is shit, it doesn't even how much of the Turkish population came as a result to that sort of policy
Its not an example. Its literally what happened, as in America pressured them. Its really not hard, go and look up more about it.
>>74410573
Trolled you it's Tuvalu
shit thread from the roaches, as usual
>>74413237
>i can't understand how anybody can like armenians. half of them acts like a mafia ,
They act exactly like you imo
> they spend shit tons of money and take our time just to take land and money ( which they couldn't take in battle)
Better than killing for it.
It's hilarious, from a Western perspective, when Turks, Greeks, Armenians, Kurds, Jews, Arabs, etc act as if they are more honest than each other. You're all a group of shifty eyed goddman liars
>>74406142
Ya and so did the assyrian one
Fuck the roachs
>>74413127
turkey is basically everything the Greeks made. So indeed made up...also see fyrom.
>>74406142
no (sadly)
if it happened why are we still stuck with anita sarkeesian and kim kardashian
and fucking RAFFI
Ask an armenian anything
>>74413498
Does the nose make a merchant?
>>74409751
>population, 10,000
>96% polynesian
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson is that you?
every thread on the internet ends up with people hating the turks because turks are liars and crooks with a twisted monghol goat fucking history who follow 2 pedophlles (atagay and mohafag).
it always ends up the same way. i end up laughing because their "but m'russians were helping m'armenians so we ethnically cleansed 1.5 million people by chopping off their heads, eating their wives wombs, raping women, killing babies and unborn ones as well..."
turkey is a fraud and shouldnt even exist. go fuck a goat you ahmed clock building faggots.
>>74412627
>armenians have always been peaceful throughout history
kek
>Mithridatic Wars
>Crusades
>KEK Mongols once or twice
""""""PEACEFUL""""""
>>74413290
>Like another anon said before in this thread, Turkey does not deny massacres that happened,
I think it's more complicated than that.
>they don't see it as a genocide
Morally it's every bit as bad as one. And Erdogan's policy means nothing when he's always espousing anti armenian
/georgian/greek sentiment
>A people thats out to carve land out of what you own or a people that is on your side? duh
This is simplification beyond endurance. "A people"- as if you've any proof that most Armenians were out to do such a thing.
>Its not an example. Its literally what happened, as in America pressured them. Its really not hard, go and look up more about it.
Yes, I know. But all of Europe has been taking in such immigrants for decades, to blame the US is stupid
>>74410131
To think, had the Turks killed just one more person this family would have been wiped from existence.
>>74413383
>better than killing for it
if you wan't to take a clay you have to fight for it tyrone. u might not know it since all you have to say is '' we wuz slave and shit '' and collect your werfare. but that is not how you take something in men's world.
>>74413127
>your alphabet is made up
Turks used to use Arabic alphabet
>Iran still uses Arabic alphabet even tho they are the land of the ARYANS!
>KEKED
>>74410424
I'm not sure what this is implying. Romanians had been conquered by the Ottoman empire.
Yes. Don't trust the mudslime kebabs.
>>74413290
im not an armenian but a historian.
its always the same deal with the turks. armenians are not the only people they ethnically destroyed. greeks, kurds and assyrians were others.
this isnt some made up bogus thing. 50 years ago they were completely ignoring it but photography makes a huge difference. now theyre saying oh ok it happened but it happened because they were helping the russians. ok so we killed 1.5 million people through death marches with the most horrible ways possible.
these are dishonest people. dont kid yourself.
I know this is some really lame ass inductive logic I'm using but every armenian I've ever met has been a total bro, whilst every turk I've ever met has been a shithead. So fuck turkish people
>>74413778
>if you wan't to take a clay you have to fight for it tyrone. u might not know it since all you have to say is '' we wuz slave and shit '' and collect your werfare. but that is not how you take something in men's world.
My ancestors took the entire United States, and we now exercise political power over you. In a way, you live on clay that belong to me- say hi to the soldiers stationed over there, colony
>>74414080
Turks are actually nice people tho
The ones online just happen to be full retard
>>74413383
research what armenians have done for society after being dispursed throughout different countries due to mass genocide and immigration.
the french love them
ny loves them
argentina loves them
canada loves them
etc etc.
>>74406142
>there are people dumb enough to even believe this pic is real
>same people are giving lectures about so called genocide
that's why i stopped debating on internet, people are immune to opposite view.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c0NC5cc5Ac
anyway, if you want to hear opposite views, see below
http://www.tallarmeniantale.com/
good luck
>>74414238
>here are people dumb enough to even believe this pic is real
This does very little to discredit the beliefs of top tier historians and thinkers.
>anyway, if you want to hear opposite views, see below
Which ones, they always seem to changing.
>good luck
Who gives a shit about something that happened so long ago, just admit it and move on
>>74412087
>welcome to world retard. wars fought land taken
Then tell your terrorist brethren in China to quit going saying 'mah land, mah land! Stop oppressing muslims' when the only reason they are getting slaughtered is for regularly chimping out whilst the other muslim minorities are allowed to have religious rights because they don't chimpout.
>>74413685
>Morally it's every bit as bad as one.
Yeah, well, Belgians killed 10 millions niggers in congo a couple decades back. Nobody cares here. Millions of Turks died before and during world war 1, you dont see Turks crying to everyone. How many of those red guys did you kill? Do you give a single fuck? Offcourse you dont, lol.
>Yes, I know. But all of Europe has been taking in such immigrants for decades, to blame the US is stupid
They took in european migrants. Its America that pressured Germany in taking muslim Turks.
>>74413957
And Greeks destroyed Turks. Obviously, Armenians didnt kill a single soul, they are completely innocent so they are off the hook etc.
>50 years ago they were completely ignoring it
Naturally. They were hoping people would just forget about the bad stuff that happened.
>50 years ago they were completely ignoring it but photography makes a huge difference. now theyre saying oh ok it happened but it happened because they were helping the russians. ok so we killed 1.5 million people through death marches with the most horrible ways possible.
Can you show me proof that there was an intent to extreminate the Armenian race?
>>74414456
i agree on the that. china fucked them they should just stop with their freedom shit and try to live without causing any problem.
>>74414238
did your mom make that website
go back into her pussy you smelly kebab loving monghol blooded wannabe eurofag. go shove a dolma up your moms ass.
>>74414422
>Who gives a shit about something that happened so long ago, just admit it and move on
they wont because their feelings will be hurt and their pride will be hurt.
i dont get these people
theyre so prideful but they dont give anything to the world. no writers, no filmmakers, no musicians, no art, no food, nothing. just elitism for no reason whatsoever.
they treat women like shit too.
>>74414490
>Yeah, well, Belgians killed 10 millions niggers in congo a couple decades back. Nobody cares here
Of course not , this is fucking /pol/
> Millions of Turks died before and during world war 1, you dont see Turks crying to everyone
That's called war, you imbecile
> Do you give a single fuck? Offcourse you dont, lol.
We at least admit it. You're sounding very scared and desperate about something that happened a long time ago
>. Its America that pressured Germany in taking muslim Turks
And afterwards, they took them in voluntarily. Meanwhile the rest of Europe took in muslims without US pressure
> Obviously, Armenians didnt kill a single soul, they are completely innocent so they are off the hook etc.
Pathetic strawman shit
>>74414626
We didn't even 'fuck' them technically. The Uighurs assisted the Qing dynasty forces in driving off the Dzungarians (Oirat Mongols) who used to live in Xinjiang.
Then the Qing government resettled the area with Han and Uighur populations since they genocided something like 1 million Mongols.
Then after the second world war the Uighurs tried to declare independence, but the land was retaken by the new Chinese government. That region just keep switching hands for several millenia.
>>74414626
>china fucked them they should just stop with their freedom shit and try to live without causing any problem.
They should get the fuck out of china if they can
>>74414994
that what i meant with '' fuck '' m8. nothing bad. >>74415003
yes if they can't live in peace they should get the fuck out china.
>>74415003
Eh, they weren't native to that region anyways. If you speak of real natives, it was the Europoid Tocharians who used to inhabit the area, but they got assimilated into China's Turk population.
>>74414490
>Can you show me proof that there was an intent to extreminate the Armenian race?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soghomon_Tehlirian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talaat_Pasha
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Nemesis
http://www.arfd.am/library/docs/N1-new.pdf
http://www.gomidas.org/uploads/Talaat%20Pashas%20Report%20on%20the%20Armenian%20Genocide.pdf
read up, honey.
>>74415131
>>74415003
True dat, but a lot of qts so I'd rather only the terrorists leave, I mean, there are like 6 different Turk countries they could go to.
>>74414786
>theyre so prideful but they dont give anything to the world. no writers, no filmmakers, no musicians, no art, no food, nothing. just elitism for no reason whatsoever.
So you are saying Turkey is allowed to be like that if the y contributed more? Interesting.
>>74414794
>Of course not , this is fucking /pol/
I meant as in, the country belgium and belgians.
>That's called war, you imbecile
SOme members of a group attack, so you persecute an entire ethnic group? completely stupid.
>We at least admit it. You're sounding very scared and desperate about something that happened a long time ago
America and what they did to these red niggers is the exception that makes the rule. Many Europeans countries dont give a fuck about the horrendous shit they did. And Germany is brainwashed (by america partly)
>And afterwards, they took them in voluntarily. Meanwhile the rest of Europe took in muslims without US pressure
k
>Pathetic strawman shit
k
>>74406142
Yes it did.
Problem lies with the Armenians that they think they can white guilt the turks to pay reperations or give back the land that they do not live for almost a century.
It is also absurd that they think USA or any other major power can pressure Turkey to accept it. While in reality Turkey will just switch sides maybe to russia or china with fewer concessions than they give to armenians.
Blood made armenians to go away and the only way the can take back it by blood. I respect ASALA far more than the average glendalian protester, even though the former is a terrorist and the latter is not.
>>74415234
that's the point bro. if you can't accept they run the country and you don't like it you can always go anywhere. but if u don't and act like a terrorist you get your punish. nothing wrong with that.
>>74415258
>SOme members of a group attack, so you persecute an entire ethnic group? completely stupid.
Is that what happened? Either way, it's not really relevant tot he discussion at all.
>America and what they did to these red niggers is the exception that makes the rule.
Not really, you're once again simplifying things into meaninglessness.
>Many Europeans countries dont give a fuck about the horrendous shit they did
Most of them do, but there's nothing to be done about it.
>k
calm down lel
>>74415258
>So you are saying Turkey is allowed to be like that if the y contributed more? Interesting.
no you waffle eating fuck.
the point is, they have 70 million people and are extremely prideful.....about nothing.
their existence doesn't mean shit especially now.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/turkish-immigration-to-germany-a-sorry-history-of-self-deception-and-wasted-opportunities-a-716067.html
http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/publications/detail/turks-in-germany-are-a-time-bomb
do some fucking research.
btw your country is fucked too you should be concerned.
>>74415421
>While in reality Turkey will just switch sides maybe to russia or china with fewer concessions t
Nigger, what?
>>74415183
I still dont see proof. The last thing i would do on an issue like this is read something by either Turks or Armenians. Both are completely bullshit. I dont even understand why you posted these wiki links, lol.
>>74415431
>Is that what happened? Either way, it's not really relevant tot he discussion at all.
Bulgaria killed of a huge chunk of Turkish muslims. They just realized the ottoman empire was at its footsteps and they would soon try to start shit, so the solution was to get rid of the minority that would assist the empire. Its very relevant, as in its almost the same case with the orroman empire, the armenians and Russia.
>Not really, you're once again simplifying things into meaninglessness.
Okay, give me more examples like America.
>Most of them do, but there's nothing to be done about it.
wow, nice thing simplifying the issue.
>calm down lel
ok, "historian"
>>74415421
>Problem lies with the Armenians that they think they can white guilt the turks to pay reperations or give back the land that they do not live for almost a century.
you stupid cuck, no one is asking for reparations...however there is money in the banks kept by turks when they wiped the families.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide_reparations
Armenians have been trying to get the genocide recognized since the 1920's you stupid illiterate monghol. After the murder of Talaat Pasha by Soghomon Telerian (and his dismissal of murder) it was the first step to get the genocide recognized. And this was only the 40s.
Read a fucking book maybe erdogan is blocking wikipedia and any source telling the trutk.
fuck you
>>74415614
Any ultimatum like "Accept armenian genocide, give off 1/3 of your land or we will kick you out NATO" will be countered by "Fuck it, We'll just woo Putin, Sorry about the plane, here have some bases and more easy access to Bosphorus straits, by the way we will cut out deals with american mil-ind complex and buy weapons from you"
In other words, neither armenia nor armenian diaspora has a bigger leverage than T*rks. Giving Putin more than what he wants (More access to Straits, controll of eastern med etc) is a far better deal for Turkey than to secede land and billions of dolars to Armenia
>>74415746
>Its very relevant, as in its almost the same case with the orroman empire, the armenians and Russia.
It's not relevant tot discussion. One cowardly action does not justify another
>Okay, give me more examples like America.
Why? What is so unique about America? You seem slightly stupid
>wow, nice thing simplifying the issue.
Nice dodge, it's sad that your bag of tricks is so limited though
>ok, "historian"
ok, "historian"
see how easy it is? I just wish I were dumb like you, then I wouldn't have to feel embarrassed about that sort of thing tbqh
>>74415863
Hello Glendale, maybe you don't want any reperations but I know plenty of Armenians who do.
Regardless, the only nation that should matter is Whether Turkey accepts the genocide or not and with both Turks and Armenians hostile attitude to one another that will not change.
That, or you might be happy with the status quo, as many turks are.
>>74415614
>Nigger, what?
these people dont make sense
never
ever
dont even bother.
>>74415875
>Any ultimatum like "Accept armenian genocide, give off 1/3 of your land o
Nothing like that is ever going to happen. Jesus, you're paranoid
>In other words, neither armenia nor armenian diaspora has a bigger leverage than T*rks.
Honstly, I wish I could keep both of you out of my country's political affairs, you middle easterners are cancer
>>74415746
>I still dont see proof. The last thing i would do on an issue like this is read something by either Turks or Armenians. Both are completely bullshit. I dont even understand why you posted these wiki links, lol.
are you retarded?
check the wiki references you dolt.
>>74415875
>In other words, neither armenia nor armenian diaspora has a bigger leverage than T*rks. Giving Putin more than what he wants (More access to Straits, controll of eastern med etc) is a far better deal for Turkey than to secede land and billions of dolars to Armenia
No shit idiot.
still doesn't change the fact that the world hates you and you have blood on your hands but keep denying it.
karma is a bitch and you will never get into EU.
>>74415863
>Armenians have been trying to get the genocide recognized since the 1920's you stupid illiterate monghol.
False.
>After the murder of Talaat Pasha by Soghomon Telerian (and his dismissal of murder) it was the first step to get the genocide recognized. And this was only the 40s.
Lol what, talaat pasha got murdered in 1921, shortly before he was sentenced to death anyway, lol (iirc).
>>74415947
>It's not relevant tot discussion. One cowardly action does not justify another
Right. Its still interesting to see how Turks got over their deaths and moved on while Armenians are still crying. Like implying recognizing this genocide would magically remove all the so called "pain" armenians live trough, lol.
>Why? What is so unique about America? You seem slightly stupid
You said america is not the exception of the case. So im asking you examples of more countries like America who acted on the bad things they did on their pasts. Im supposed to be slightly stupid? This is very easy to follow.
>see how easy it is?
Im not the one who claimed he is one.
>I just wish I were dumb like you
I wish i was as delusional as you :).
>>74415421
>switch sides maybe to russia
yes Russia loves you. will probably send more gifts soon
>>74416007
i live in new york you dolt, not even armenian or a towelhead.
the only concern i have is turkey is a dumb fucking country that shouldnt even exist. their sole reason to live is to eat, shit, fuck and breed more mixed gypsy monghols and make money off natural gas and your (stolen) land by playing checkers while russia plays chess.
eat a falafel.
>>74416095
Still no proof.
Show me some text, or anything relevant, maybe those special photography you like to talk so much. Show me some proof of intention to exterminate.
For examples there is lots of proof about the jews, hitler and germany.
>>74416067
>Nothing like that is ever going to happen. Jesus, you're paranoid
Unlikely true, but I was just talking in what if scenarios. It was just a scenario. I did talk to more than one Armenian who though something like this would happen at the end of the day. I'm glad /pol/armenians here are less delusional
>Honstly, I wish I could keep both of you out of my country's political affairs, you middle easterners are cancer
Likewise, believe me the feeling is very mutual. I rather wish Turks alligned themselves with russia-syria-iran rather than west. We are on the wrong side of history meme is true. In mentality turks are also more closer to middle easterns or russians than extremely individualistic and goverment-authority hating west. But sadly neither I nor you controll our respective governments
>>74416248
>>74416415
I'm not denying it, maybe you were too busy with writing turco-mongol ad nauseum. But my first sentence ITT was Yes it did happen.
>karma is a bitch and you will never get into EU.
There is no such thing as karma, and majority of the turks do not want to get into EU. I can thank Erdogan for one thing that he sealed euroskepticism on everyone heart.
Keep up with turkhating, roachposting, whatever suits you.
>>74416369
They will love us if such a thing happen. We woul basically give putin everything on a silver platter, without costing him one russian soldier
>>74416532
Go google this topic has been covered way too much.
I give you good starting points and you come back with "no proof".
Go to google images and search armenian genocide in syrian desert.
oh ok maybe thats not proof enough for you.
or maybe not proof that thousands of historians agree with it and so do US politicians and most of the world (until they are bought and paid for by the Turkshit lobby).
>>74416701
>good starting points
ok lol, mister "historian"
>Go to google images and search armenian genocide in syrian desert.
Just did, half the images are fake. And even if they were true, this is proof of genocide? Thanks for confirming me that you are retarded. It sure takes a little to be a historian these days.
>>74416532
>>74416532
>For examples there is lots of proof about the jews, hitler and germany.
Yes because Germans were more systematic and thoughtout and kept hundreds of thousands of documents.
The Ottoman government hired Young Turks and Kurds to "displace" the armenians by taking their weapons and them massacring them in the deserts.
Read the Talaat Pasha (leader of the genocide movement) diaries about how "bad he felt" after "the atrocities" he committed.
http://www.firstworldwar.com/source/armenia_talaatorders.htm
There are scanned documents but google it yourself.
Talaat Pasha's Official Orders Regarding the Armenian Massacres, March 1915-January 1916
March 25th, 1915
To Djemal Bey, Delegate at Adana:
The duty of everyone is to effect on the broadest lines possible the realization of the noble project of wiping out of existence the well-known elements who for centuries have been the barrier to the empire's progress in civilization.
We must, therefore, take upon ourselves the entire responsibility, pledging ourselves to this action no matter what happens, and always remembering how great is the sacrifice which the Government has made in entering the World War. We must work so that the means used may lead to the desired end.
In our dispatch dated February 18th, we announced that the Djemiet has decided to uproot and annihilate the different forces which for centuries have been a hindrance; for this purpose it is forced to resort to very bloody methods. Certainly the contemplation of these methods horrified us, but the Djemiet saw no other way of insuring the stability of its work.
Ali Riza [Note: the committee delegate at Aleppo] harshly criticised us and urged that we be merciful; such simplicity is nothing short of stupidity. We will find a place for all those who will not cooperate with us, a place that will wring their delicate heartstrings.
Again let me remind you of the question of property left. This is very important. Watch its distribution with vigilance; always examine the accounts and the use made of the proceeds.
THE DJEMIET
>>74416848
You're a typical genocide denier. A turd living in belgium, you dont even belong there go back to your shitty country and leave europe alone.
>>74416369
>>74416534
My point is, kicking Turkey out of NATO is equivolent of Turkey signing an unconditional surrender to Russia without a single bullet fired. I'm dead serious that kicking Turkey out would be equivolent of giving Russia whatever he wants, bases-more strait access, trade contracts etc. I doubt Kurds will be a problem, given the fact russian allies Iran and Syria both deal with them.
>>74417241
I love how both of you pretend to be "not diaspora" I don't buy your "new yorker" bullshit either, you insult like a typical armo no offence. But that waffleboy is probably some turkish nationalist (who live in another nation, talk about hypocrisy)
Anyways have fun I should break the fast.
>>74413745
>Turks
>Half assed
Checks out
>>74417070
>Yes because Germans were more systematic and thoughtout and kept hundreds of thousands of documents.
Yes.
>The Ottoman government hired Young Turks and Kurds to "displace" the armenians
Yes, the empire was in multiple wars with the Russians coming from the east.
>by taking their weapons
Well duh.
>and them massacring them in the deserts.
shit happens
>Read the Talaat Pasha (leader of the genocide movement) diaries about how "bad he felt" after "the atrocities" he committed.
dont see any proof, sorry
>>74416848
>if no pictures - didn't happen
>if pictures - fake
...........
>if time machine so you are there when it happens - my eyes are lying to me
>>74417745
they are confirmed fake
>>74417818
>Show me some text, or anything relevant
>everything is fake
this has to be bait
>>74418060
I can post a hundred thousand picturres of people in a bad state, and every single one of them is a genocide apparently, cool. Hell, i guess Turkey should just go and accept it, everything is a genocide! Do you feel hungry now? Damn dude, harsh genocide you have going on right there.
>>74406142
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSURlsI4brU
>>74418060
>this has to be bait
it is
>>74418344
kek
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/wsj-ad-denying-armenian-genoicde_us_57181c7ce4b0c9244a7adae0
https://news.vice.com/article/geico-helped-put-a-sky-message-above-nyc-denying-turkeys-genocide-in-armenia
http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/blog/2015/05/14/armenian-genocide-denial-website-advertisments/
http://www.history.com/topics/armenian-genocide
http://www.ppu.org.uk/genocide/g_armenia2.html
fuck off troll
>>74406142
Sure.
>>74416701
Seriously, if you post a clusterfuck of data to prove a few points, at least provide a summary. It just seems like you're waiting for the "time of debate" to run out so you can think that you "win by default." 0/historian
reminder that there is around 1.5 mil armenians living in america and most of the posters here are actually armenian diaspora living in the high standards of united states rather than their little shithole back in the caucasus
>>74418566
IT HAPPENED GUYS I SWER :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG70UWESfu4
>>74418732
>Seriously, if you post a clusterfuck of data to prove a few points, at least provide a summary. It just seems like you're waiting for the "time of debate" to run out so you can think that you "win by default." 0/historian
theres plenty if you google around, too lazy and this is probably the 1,000th time ive gone through this with troll turks.
history is not on their side.
>>74418989
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG70UWESfu4 [Embed]
Oh look, Erdogan lets you use the internet. lul
Is the ban on YouTube lifted already?
>>74406142
Yes, my grandmother came to the US because of the genocide and persecution. So unless she was given false memories as a child, it happened.
I really hate conspiracy theorists.
>>74419218
why don't you go back home tavit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYDLCnMr08s
>>74419482
You got it, Cenk. kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZtcdoqQU-4
>>74419482
>>74419087
>history is not on their side.
What a really dumb thing to say. History is on the side of the victors, tecnically so its on Turkeys side, its just that the soviets started pushing armenia for this during the 50s etc to put pressure on turkey.
>>74419903
kek
>>74420095
>What a really dumb thing to say. History is on the side of the victors, tecnically so its on Turkeys side, its just that the soviets started pushing armenia for this during the 50s etc to put pressure on turkey.
Turkey fucked up because there is plenty of physical documents and photos to make them look bad. They thought they were coy and the world hates them now. kek.
>>74419903
>we talk about armenian genocide in a political stage so it means that genocide is real!
> she misrepresented the Armenian Genocide as a "historical debate."! IT IS TRUE AND UNDENIABLE
kek the delusion of the armenians is the only undeniable thing here
turkey will never accept genocide unless armenia grows the balls to allow an international board of historians to research the issue
also here is something armenia will never have again
>>74420347
First, i want to say your picture is really good and you should show it to more Armenians. They should learn from that.
>Turkey fucked up because there is plenty of physical documents and photos to make them look bad.
I suppose yeah.
>They thought they were coy and the world hates them now. kek.
I think its cute how you think that its because of Armenians. Like the anti ataturk pictures you post, while the vast majority of people will say that he was a great person and good for Turkey.
>>74420347
what photos?
>>74420095
its just another dumb armo you are speaking to desu
>>74420572
> maybe if i deny it even against all the documented proof, people will believe me.
kek
>>74406142
Yes, just like the Holocaust
>>74420672
>First, i want to say your picture is really good and you should show it to more Armenians. They should learn from that.
It's about turks accepting their barbaric past you dolt.
my god, ive been showing turks the light since the 90s on the internet and you people havent changed. your internet maybe upgraded from dialup to 1.5mbps DSL, but other than that, you're all still goat fuckers.
kek
>>74420745
Funny, you people usually say that there is not much proof because the archives got destroyed (while armenians were in charge of them, kek), but now magically you are claiming there are loads of documents that prove it.
>>74420745
what documented proof?
you have to provide these yourself as the accuser you know
>>74420721
>its just another dumb armo you are speaking to desu
im not armenian, my ex ex ex girlfriend was. you idiot. i mentioned this twice before. i dont even care about those towelheads either.
but like i said, my biggest concern is turkey and ive been trying to find a reason why their country still exists.
>>74420888
>It's about turks accepting their barbaric past you dolt.
Haha, did you even read the picture? It fits armenians much, much more.
>my god, ive been showing turks the light since the 90s on the internet and you people havent changed. your internet maybe upgraded from dialup to 1.5mbps DSL, but other than that, you're all still goat fuckers.
cool
>>74420572
man, this type of shit is not helpful. Have some respect for people's genuine suffering, regardless of how much they believe your people (and you by extension) caused it. Dick.
>>74421088
why are you hiding in europe?
do you hate your people?
>>74421038
Oh man, this is too cringy, im out.
>>74421173
>man, this type of shit is not helpful. Have some respect for people's genuine suffering, regardless of how much they believe your people (and you by extension) caused it. Dick.
im sorry but these people will never change. they have no heart. they only troll.
this is why i've been researching the turkic-monghol-gypsy connection for years and why they still exist.
>>74420347
>Implying one can possibly confirm millions of unique people in photos
>Implying the result of what the Turkish government said happened (irresponsible deportations) can not be represented by the photos (must be muh systematic genocide)
>Implying there are plenty of physical documents to make them look bad
Show me some anon.
>>74406142
Yes, only roaches and their propaganda outlets think otherwise
>>74421397
They argue with tools that lie within their mental facilities. If you think the tools are dull, it doesn't mean they're trolling. I'm just saying man, if they're actually wrong, they still believe they're right. And they're collectively suffering for it. It's sad
>>74421374
>Oh man, this is too cringy, im out.
You googled, didn't you?
It hurts bro. Ahmed Abdul Ahmid was not a good dude.
>>74421553
No no, you see, these documents got destroyed by the ottomans, thats what armenians claim, but this guy magically claims he has tons of documented proof, which discredits what tons of historians and armenians are saying. This is extremely cool to see, this guy literally has the key to pushing and solving this issue. Something everyone missed. Im eagerly waiting on this proof.
>>74421718
>They argue with tools that lie within their mental facilities. If you think the tools are dull, it doesn't mean they're trolling. I'm just saying man, if they're actually wrong, they still believe they're right. And they're collectively suffering for it. It's sad
What's more sad is if these are young people posting, they're continuing the lies of their parents and grandparents. Why not just accept it and move on? The world will be a more peaceful place.
They're so prideful it's unbelievable. Younger people in general are more accepting of each other thanks to the internet. I'm not counting ISIL recruits.
Im not even mad at them, they're brainwashed.
I remember my girlfriend used to cry to me because her grandmother used to tell her stories about escaping the genocide and how her grandfather was murdered in front of her grandmother. I would hold her and you could tell this is all too real by the beating of her heart and how fast it was every time she repeated the stories.
>>74421553
>Show me some anon.
http://eudocs.lib.byu.edu/index.php/History_of_Armenia:_Primary_Documents#Armenia:_WWI.2C_Genocide.2C_up_to_Present
http://www.columbia.edu/itc/history/winter/w3206/edit/armeniangenocide.html
https://sfi.usc.edu/news/2015/03/8862-documents-landmark-armenian-genocide-lawsuit-donated-center-advanced-genocide
http://press.princeton.edu/titles/9678.html
http://exhibits.lib.usf.edu/exhibits/show/armenianstudies/armenia-genocide/docs
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/359544/FOI_ref_0298-14_Attachment_23.pdf
http://www.edb.utexas.edu/faculty/salinas/students/student_sites/Fall2008/2/sources.html
https://cdr.lib.unc.edu/record/uuid:fe5c43ef-3dd4-4206-88d6-a40f8bc82bfb
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=52&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiE9oCYoOXMAhWG5YMKHVD3De04KBAWCGMwCw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsites.uci.edu%2Fcurtishendrickson%2Farmenian-genocide-text-analysis%2F&usg=AFQjCNGnB3tYRLxHFWwRHCJWjK0Lrq0I2A&sig2=ivZW7fkImne8qW0YDxLzLg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Remaining_Documents_of_Talaat_Pasha
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=64&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiE9oCYoOXMAhWG5YMKHVD3De04KBAWCKoBMBc&url=http%3A%2F%2Feducation.nh.gov%2Finstruction%2Fcurriculum%2Fsocial_studies%2Fdocuments%2Farmenian_genocide.pdf&usg=AFQjCNG5OsfDmNyAm7bp56qWER0EtMTsTw&sig2=XvqnuQdZh_LH-NRV90HSpA
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=91&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjf3LK7oOXMAhVE7YMKHQPEClw4UBAWCFQwCg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcocharto.ru%2Ffidisox.pdf&usg=AFQjCNFqZyx0sO3t-fGFLTFlZ8gryNiR4Q&sig2=ZI9-r-b_E7FjYNEt4pjglQ
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/demons-of-the-past-the-armenian-genocide-and-the-turks-a-687449.html
http://www.assembly.coe.int/nw/xml/XRef/Xref-DocDetails-EN.asp?FileID=21734&Lang=EN
https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0011/armenia.html
>>74422137
>Why not just accept it and move on?
Why cant Armenians just accept the dead are dead and they wont come back like many other people do and move on? Do you see Turks crying about the ones who died in the balkan wars? The millions that was lost before and during world war 1?
>I remember my girlfriend used to cry to me because her grandmother used to tell her stories about escaping the genocide and how her grandfather was murdered in front of her grandmother.
And there are tons of stories about Turks who talk about their grandfathers having to fight invading Armenian murderers, usually circassians and other folks that were at the line inbetween.
Here is the best part. You keep saying Turkey is worth nothing, you keep saying Turkey is full of pride. And these are excuses, like you say, they use these excuses for how shitty they are.
And now we have enlightened europeans. Say, Belgians, why dont they go and pay reparations to Congo? France, why dont they go and pay reparations to north africa? These people are not like what you say, they are enlightened, yet they dont give a fuck about what happened there. You see north africans complaining French opression alot, but France doesnt give a fuck. France also recently ruined Libya.
So, Turkey atleast has excuses, so what are the excuses of enlightened european westerners?
i do have to admit to, armenians are really strong in propaganda, seriously, literally grade A++, you wont have anything to respond to my post but a meme, because i literally destroyed you
>>74423077
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2009/03/09/world/europe/09iht-turkey.1.20693986.html?referrer=
http://www.agos.com.tr/en/article/9974/official-1915-document-swept-under-the-carpet
http://www.kitapyurdu.com/kitap/talat-pasanin-evraki-metrukesi/122152.html
http://eng.kavkaz-uzel.ru/articles/4029/
http://www.haberturk.com/yazarlar/murat-bardakci/656496-diyaspora-kitabimi-caldi
https://www.usherbrooke.ca/droit/fileadmin/sites/droit/documents/RDUS/volume_41/41-2-AramKuyumjian.PDF
http://harvardmagazine.com/2015/01/ronald-suny-armenian-genocide
http://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/04/16/teaching-the-armenian-genocide-with-primary-sources-from-the-new-york-times/
https://zenit.org/articles/pope-francis-has-torn-the-veil-on-the-armenian-genocide/
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2007/oct/16/armenian-crime-amnesia/
http://ghsorourke.weebly.com/uploads/2/2/5/1/22516256/armenian_genocide_resources.pdf
It's like I fuck your sister in front of you and then you say "Ha! I don't see any proof you're fucking my sister!"
Fuck off rat.
>>74423097
>Why cant Armenians just accept the dead are dead and they wont come back like many other people do and move on? Do you see Turks crying about the ones who died in the balkan wars? The millions that was lost before and during world war 1?
You idiot, THE BALKANS WAS A FUCKING WAR.
armenians were massacred.
are you retarded?
Move back to turkey and make sure you follow the rules or they'll slap article 301 on your booty.
You muslim faggots looooove Europe but long for sharia. you falafel eating fucks.
>>74423077
Okay, this is the so called proof you are posting, wonderfull, the missing link, you have it! Now lets take a look, let me take a random link...
>https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0011/armenia.html
Okay, cool, let me read this.
>Both the concept of genocide and the word itself derive from the barbarities inflicted on the Armenians. Rafael Lemkin, who had strong personal feelings about the Armenian massacres, coined the term, which came into general usage in 1944 with the further specification in United Nations documents of "crimes against humanity."
Lemkin had a very wide definition of genocide. He also considered what Greeks did to Turks a genocide, yet you dont see Turks crying about it.
> Mr. Gilbert drew another connection: Hitler's riveting remark to his generals on Aug. 22, 1939, as they were poised to invade Poland, that they should be merciless in the territory Germany wished to reclaim, because "who, after all, is today speaking of the destruction of the Armenians?"
Okay, a fake quote.
Dropped, this is thrash tier.
>>74423858
>Dropped, this is thrash tier.
kek. oh my god man, just go away.
join the fucking 21st century you toilet dweller.
does your dad fuck you in the asshole and teach you that only ataturd and mohamud is your only true love? do you slap your girlfriend?
your people ethnically cleansed THE NATIVE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THERE FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS, THEN TOOK OVER THEIR LAND. THAT IS FUCKING GENOCIDE.
>>74423797
>armenians were massacred.
Wow, you are a historian, and now you are also a psychologist! Dude, you are so talented its amazing!
So hundreds of thousands of innocent Turks died in the balkans, but its irrelevant! haha! LOL! Because i say so!! Becuase innocent people died in a war, its irrelevant what they think! looool!
Jesus christ i have never felt this much cringe. You need to work on your propaganda. Im starting to believe you are not armenian, they are usually much better in shilling, its probably in their dna or something.
>>74424142
>>>74423797 (You)
That's fine, disrespect the millions that were ethnically cleansed because of their religion.
That's the only thing your people are good at, shitting, fucking your siblings, killing and eating.
>>74413679
So defensive wars?
>>74424410
Islam does nothing for society but cause death and anger and despair.
Christians haven't done massacres since the crusades and Amerindian massacres.
At least they're sorry after they do it and give back to society.
>>74424410
You are the one that is disrespecting the millions of innocent Ottoman muslims that died.
also ethnic cleansing =! genocide, plus you are grossly simplifying things
>>74424606
You do realize that we can see that you are responding to your own posst?
>At least they're sorry after they do
Source? Show me proof besides America and Germany?
Right, you dont have any.
this thread is top kek
stay mad roachfags
>>74424904
>You are the one that is disrespecting the millions of innocent Ottoman muslims that died.
Stop turning this around. Armenians did not kill hundreds of thousands of people you fucking dolt.
The Ottoman Government was in decline in the late 1800's
> See Hamidian Massacres:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamidian_massacres
From 1894–1896, 300,000 Armenians were massacred.
> See Armenian Genocide:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide
The Armenian "kristallnacht".
1,500,000 million people were deported and systematically massacred by Turkish soldiers.
At this point I think you're just being a jew faggot. I just posted like 100 documents and you're still calling it a war. Is that what they teach you in Falafel-school? Kek. Fuck off you goat fucker.
>>74424606
>Christians haven't done massacres since the crusades and Amerindian massacres.
kek, in 1821 the greeks killed all turks on morea and the greek islands
balkanites killed or deported all muslims from their lands during and after the balkan wars, they also destroyed all the ottoman heritage
russians genocided the circassians whom escaped to the ottoman empire with boats
armenians massacred whole villages and towns when they invaded eastern anatolia
christians were just as bloodthirsty if not more famalam
>>74424011
>claim credible source
>include fake quotes on the first few lines
>wonder why people dont take you seriously
>>74425626
dude srsly go fuck a goat
top kek of a thread
self cuckage is in your blood
>>74425350
>wikipedia as a credible source
>armenians actually believe that a force of 38 held off 6000
the delusional is delicious
>>74425350
Most of that is fake.
>>74425359
>Stop turning this around.
Im not turning it around. Im saying that also millions of Ottoman muslims died.
>Armenians did not kill hundreds of thousands of people you fucking dolt.
Official ottoman number is around 500 thousand. Thank god Turkey won the war and reclaimed areas claimed by Armenians. All the Turks on that land would have been slaughtered by Armenians.
>The Ottoman Government was in decline in the late 1800's
yes
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamidian_massacres
>From 1894–1896, 300,000 Armenians were massacred.
ok
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide
>1,500,000 million people were deported and systematically massacred by Turkish soldiers.
Yeah sure, first it was 500 thousand, after that a million, now its 1.5 million, after a while it will be 2 million. Blink and it will be 3 million.
The problem here is the Armenian diaspora who spead a heavily revisionist idea troughout America and Europe. Their side does not rely on facts. Most of these historians you keep talking about have 0 credentials on ottoman history and are random guys.
>I just posted like 100 documents and you're still calling it a war.
Top lel you just copypasted shit. There are literaly your average day articles. Documents? Who the fuck are you kidding you fucking retard?
>>74425813
>the delusional is delicious
um remember the azeri war in the early 90s? the ratio was 50:5. Armenians cucked azeris.
Dude just fuck off. You're making me chuckle. kek
>>74425775
The only cuck here is really you.
Absolutely, but frankly I think it's time Armenians move on and focus on fixing their country instead of calling for recognition every year. T*rk roaches won't do anything about it--their time will come one day.
>>74425775
>dude srsly go fuck a goat
why would i fuck a goat i am not a mountain nigger armenian :D
>>74425955
>Herp derp im mad i just fucked my sister lel
why do you live in belgium
move back to Ataturkland?
>>74425813
>roach calling others delusional
top kek m8
not may fault roaches cant remove armenians. They cant even remove kurds.
>>74426130
Heh, thanks for ending this on a high note for me and a very little not for you, i can close this tab with a smile. Im gone, cya mate, try not to bomb people, armenians tend to do that ;).
>>74425944
>10:1 ratio
lol in that wikipedia page the amount of casualties is higher than the amount of combatants on the azeri side
wiki pages for these stuff is literally run by armo administrators
>azeri
we are talking about the mythical genocide turks allegedly did on the armos you negroid, not azeris
did you run out of comebacks and lies :3
>>74410111
He actually used it the absolute madman
>>74426101
im not even making this up
these are your people
look to the turd in the lower right kek
looking at turkish people overall, everyone looks different because youre all gypsies that fucked your way to the land. some look european, some look greek, some look armenian, some look like monghols (ie erdoshit and atagay).
>>74426412
Erdokike is actually a Georgian I think. He doesn't really look like one though.
>>74426311
im surprised you know how to use a computer considering the fact that your country runs on goat jizz for electricity and that's not enough voltage for it.
fuck off now goatfucker. you have to sell some falafels in the morning for your dads business in the bazaar hahahahaha
>>74426412
>these are your people
>not wearing their headscarves in the turkish style
you cannot lie to me fuckboy, these are syrian refugees
>>74426895
all those guys except for the slavs can pass for each otters ethnicity. Lets be real they look the same.
>>74426578
>Erdokike is actually a Georgian I think. He doesn't really look like one though.
There was a rumor going around town that he fucked his daughter. I wonder if it's true?
He tried to suppress the news by shutting down and killing the journalist that wrote the article.
It must be true.
>>74427156
>Lets be real they look the same.
lol are you blind mate?
>>74427917
>lol are you blind mate?
why are you using "mate"?
You live in turkey you can't even identify your own words, bro.
Because
> no culture
>>74427354
>He tried to suppress the news by shutting down and killing the journalist that wrote the article.
To be fair, that fag tries to ban literally everything that questions him in a negative way.
>>74428157
>To be fair, that fag tries to ban literally everything that questions him in a negative way.
Do you think it has anything to do with his small dick?
>>74428005
mad armo is mad
>>74428291
>herp derp falafel
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkic_migration
kek
basically tribes. tribal fags that have no known source or a real home. kek
always jealous of greeks who have a home and have given the republic to this world. kek
>>74428528
>>74428528
>i c-c-cannot prove the g-genocide! but you are m-m-m-m-m-m-m-m-mongol!
>>74428834
these girls look like they have armenian and/or greek genes in them.
nice try kebab boy
>>74420089
wtf is that a fsa hijab?
>>74429166
>wtf is that a fsa hijab?
i dont know looks like a condom to me. kek
stupid mudslime goatfuckers
> this is a moderate mudslime
kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV710c1dgpU
I see no Christians doing this.
>>74406142
yes. fuck roaches
>>74427354
He also imprisoned the author of a book that outed him as a Jew.
>>74410279
Woah what is that flag?
