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If communism is so bad, why does everyone love Cuba?
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Pol can't answer this question.
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Cuba isn't even a communist country
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>>74389934
It is.
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>>74389868
Everyone doesn't love Cuba.

People like American-Cubans.

Except Rato/Lubio who are a disgrace.
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>>74390020
No, its socialist
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>>74389868
It is so good that every year 30 thousand Cubans become American citizens. This is more than Cuba's natural population growth.
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>>74389868
>why does everyone love Cuba?
>everybody loves cuba
news to me
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>>74389868
>be Cuban
>attempt to paddle to Florida in floating bathtub

Yeah, Cuba is great
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>>74389868
>works so well
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>>74389868
>why does everyone love Cuba?
Since when?
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>>74389868
Why don't you ask the Cubans themselves?
Oh wait, an hour of Internet costs 2 months wages for regular people, not including the bribe to be allowed to use it.
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>>74389868
Fucking whores
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>>74390106
The difference being?
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>>74389868
1. People who don't understand that ex-Cubans using Nicaraguan tobacco make the best cigars
2. People who are nostalgic for old architecture and cars and don't understand it's because these dumb fuckwits can't get nice things.
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>>74390227
Thanks Senpai.
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>>74389868
It's cheap to vacation to and you don't get Montezuma's Revenge like in Mexico.
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>>74389868

I hear Cubans love Cuba so much they cobble together rafts and risk life and limb to go to Florida.
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>>74389868
no one loves cuba you dipshit did you not hear about the mariel boatlift

everyone in cuba wants to getfo as fast as possible
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>>74389868
Watch a documentary on Cuba you faggot.
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>>74389868
Cuba is a paradise for tourist but a hell for locals, is that what you want for your country?
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>>74389868

people don't love cuba

people love sex, woman, parties and the beach

see: every latin american country with a beach
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>>74389868
>yfw when all your liberal friends visit Cuba after the embargo was lifted and were shocked it was shithole
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>what a great place
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>>74390362
Trademarked
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>how do i get citizenship
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>>74390362
A communist society for example is a democracy without a standing army, cuba has no democracy but a standing army
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>>74389868
Because Cuba is a prettier North Korea -- you are scrupulously protected from actually seeing anything, like lifetime imprisonment for attempting to obtain beef or slaughter your own animals.
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>i cant wait to get a 1950s car
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>>74390275
>>74390125
Source?
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>>74390575
If you think that's shitty, look at nearby Haiti or El Salvador.
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>>74389868
Just like Mexico it's a slave state for wealthy vacationers. No one ever leaves their resort when they are visiting.

No one actually loves Cuba or Mexico. They like warn weather and nice beaches.
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>>74390713
That last claim sounds very questionable.
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>>74389868
> everyone love Cuba
Sauce nigger
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>>74390828
they all are shit who cares
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>>74390473
>yfw brits do the same to get to US

Hope it doesn't come to that
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Isn't Cuba like, the Thailand of the west hemisphere?
Where white dudes go to fuck 12 year olds?
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>>74390605
Cmon now Goyim, it would be dangerous to grant any foreigners citizenship.

Btw, we need you to take in these 1 million refugees.
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>>74391192
No that is epsteins island ur thinking of
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>>74389868
I don't love Cuba. Therefore, not everyone loves Cuba.

Checkmate, atheists.
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>>74390605
I-I thought Cubans were white... Why is everyone in that pic a nigger?
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If Cuba's so great, why do they have so many defections every Olympics?
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>>74389868
because it's "cool" and "edgy" to like oppressive dictators and regimes.

Doctors are literally forced to work 10-12 hours each day, 6 days a week, year round without break. If they say no, they are thrown into a 3rd world jail cell to rot away until they agree to work again. If they further violate this, their loved ones are thrown into jail as well.
>fuck the castros

go talk to real cubans refugee who were lucky enough to escape and gain asylum in the US and you'll see what i mean.
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>>74390275
STEALTH RARE
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>>74389868
everyone loves cuba -> communism is good
I don't love cuba
______________
not everyone loves cuba
not communism is good

hence communism is bad
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>>74389868
No one loves Cuba, you fucking idiot. We just want to put our penises into those sweet Latina booties.
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>>74389868
cheap hookers
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>>74392626
My parents are Cuban. My mother is practically an albino; platinum blonde hair, extremely fair skin, and green eyes. My father has a dark natural tan 24/7, dark hair, dark eyes, Anglo features.

This gave me superpowers in that I can blend into any community depending on whether or not I tan.
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>>74390275
ATTENTION

THIS MAN IS NOT FROM FRANCE

ATTENTION
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>>74390677

>A communist society for example is a democracy without a standing army
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>>74389868
I've been there, it's a fucking shithole.
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>>74389868
>Everyone loves Cuba
Right, that's why hundreds of Cuban refugees escape to the US every year
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>>74390020
Not an argument
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>>74389868
Fuck OP, I've literally been on that beach. It's in front of the Barcelo in Varadero.
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>>74390069
no body likes cuban americans. they are extremly rude and full of themselves. ppl like cubans from cuba
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>>74389868
Only delusional lefties love Cuba. Cubans hate Cuba along with everyone else sane enough.
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>>74389868
Because rednecks could theoretically hijack it for themselves if it starts happening.
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>>74394546
cuba is pretty nice

everyone tries to rip you off if you are white tho
also the whole country runs on bribes
and the entire city of havana literally smells like sewage

part from that it's neat
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>>74389868
>why does everyone love Cuba?
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>>74389868
Because of Marco Rubio, isn't he the cutest
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>>74389868
>Everyone loves Cuba
[Citation needed]
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>>74394512
T. Cuban govt operator paid by shillary
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>>74390106
retard alert.
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>>74389868
If everyone loves Cuba than how come millions of Cubans fled Cuba to live in America?
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>>74390275
>>74390275
WHAT SORCERY IS THIS?
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>>74390275
>taking the French flag and adding Red and Blue to it

Why?
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>>74389868
Their money isn't worth shit, so ours is worth a lot more, so it's a fine place to take a vacation that would otherwise be expensive as fuck.
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>>74389868
because there were no americans there... now there are, now no one loves cuba
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>>74389868
Because the girls will fuck you for a few bucks or ten years old phone?
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>>74390575
God damn I don't know if it's my whiteness, but I want to bulldoze and clear the shit out of them streets and bring them to working order.
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>>74389868
They don't, beside's your talking about a shit whole while we sanctioned them, they literally sold umbrella's out of glass cases because it was a luxury.
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>>74394105
you didn't answer his question
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You know you can ask for a meme without shilling right?
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>>74389868
Canadians love it because it's a dirt cheap vacation that gets them out of the cold temperatures.

You don't see them making an effort to become residents there though.
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Fuck Cuba and Che Guevara
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>>74389868
>number of people who try to sneak out of Cuba into the USA: half of Florida
>number of people who try to sneak out of the USA into Cuba: fuck all
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>>74404154
>Portuga volta pra padaria já !
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>>74390275
Fuckin' saved.
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Only cubans love cuba.
If it's so great, why don't you move there? :^)
>Boy these communist tourist traps full of whites sure is splendid.
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Because nice cigars and well-kept old cars?
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>>74390275
>putting too much bleach in while cleaning your flag
ISHYGDDT
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>>74389868
Haha, you're either naive or deliberately sowing propaganda

here are some quotes from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Cuba, and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba, you can go there to see the references

The Cuban government has been accused of numerous human rights abuses including torture, arbitrary imprisonment, unfair trials, and extrajudicial executions (also known as "El Paredón").

Human Rights Watch has stated that the government "represses nearly all forms of political dissent" and that "Cubans are systematically denied basic rights to free expression, association, assembly, privacy, movement, and due process of law"

In 2003, the European Union (EU) accused the Cuban government of "continuing flagrant violation of human rights and fundamental freedoms".[129] The United States continues an embargo against Cuba "so long as it continues to refuse to move toward democratization and greater respect for human rights"

CUBA HAD THE SECOND-HIGHEST NUMBER OF IMPRISONED JOURNALISTS OF ANY NATION IN 2008 (CHINA HAD THE HIGHEST) ACCORDING TO VARIOUS SOURCES, INCLUDING THE COMMITTEE TO PROTECT JOURNALISTS AND HUMAN RIGHTS WATCH.

Cuban dissidents face arrest and imprisonment. In the 1990s, Human Rights Watch reported that Cuba's extensive prison system, one of the largest in Latin America, consists of 40 maximum-security prisons, 30 minimum-security prisons, and over 200 work camps.[136] According to Human Rights Watch, Cuba's prison population is confined in "substandard and unhealthy conditions, where prisoners face physical and sexual abuse."

At the end of 2012, tens of thousands of Cuban medical personnel worked abroad,[152] with as many as 30,000 doctors in Venezuela alone via the two countries' oil-for-doctors programme.[153]

The average monthly wage as of July 2013 is 466 Cuban pesos, which are worth about US$19
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>>74404911
After the Cuban revolution and before the collapse of the Soviet Union, Cuba depended on Moscow for substantial aid and sheltered markets for its exports. The removal of these subsidies sent the Cuban economy into a rapid depression known in Cuba as the Special Period. Cuba took limited FREE MARKET-ORIENTED measures to alleviate severe shortages of food, consumer goods, and services.

Venezuela supplies Cuba with an estimated 110,000 barrels (17,000 m3) a day of oil in exchange for money and the services of some 44,000 Cubans, most of them medical personnel, in Venezuela.[180] Estimates place Venezuelan assistance at over 20% of the Cuban GDP for 2008–2010, similar to the aid flows from the Soviet Union in 1985–1988

In 2005 Cuba had exports of $2.4 billion, ranking 114 of 226 world countries, and imports of $6.9 billion, ranking 87 of 226 countries - EXPORTS??? Sounds a bit capitalist, doesn't it

On August 2, 2011, The New York Times reported Cuba as reaffirming their intent to legalize "buying and selling" of private property before the year's end. According to experts, the private sale of property could "transform Cuba more than any of the economic reforms announced by President Raúl Castro's government".[190] It will cut more than one million state jobs, including party bureaucrats who resist the changes.[191] The new economic reforms effectively created a new economic system, referred by some as the "New Cuban Economy". - capitalism?

Contacts between foreign visitors and ordinary Cubans were de facto illegal between 1992 and 1997

Cuba has tripled its market share of Caribbean tourism in the last decade - Capitalism?

the population began to decline in 2006, with a fertility rate of 1.43 children per woman.[213] - 2.11 is the sustainable fertility rate, so they are shrinking by about a quarter per generation

Indeed, this drop in fertility is among the largest in the Western Hemisphere,[214]
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>>74389868
fuck cuba
they can't even a cigar these days
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>>74404987
Post-revolution Cuba has been characterized by significant levels of emigration, which has led to a large and influential diaspora community. During the three decades after January 1959, more than one million Cubans of all social classes — constituting 10% of the total population — emigrated to the United States, a proportion that matches the extent of emigration to the U.S. from the Caribbean as a whole during that period.[223][224][225][226][227] Other common destinations include Spain, the United Kingdom, Canada, Mexico, and Sweden, among others. Those who left the country typically did so by sea, in small boats and fragile rafts. Between 30,000 and 80,000 Cubans are estimated to have died trying to flee Cuba - it's such a great place that 10% of the population left, even using rafts to escape

In 1986 a "Tribunal on Cuba" was held in Paris to present testimonies by former prisoners of Cuba's penal system to the international media. The gathering was sponsored by Resistance International and The Coalition of Committees for the Rights of Man in Cuba. The testimonies presented at the tribunal, before an international panel, alleged a pattern of torture in Cuba's prisons and "hard labor camps". These included beatings, biological experiments in diet restrictions, violent interrogations and extremely unsanitary conditions. The jury concurred with allegations of arbitrary arrests; sentencing by court martial with neither public audience nor defense; periods in hard labour camps without sufficient food, clothes and medical care; and the arrests of children over nine years old.[24]
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Although Cuba has been politically connected to the Soviet Union since the United States broke off relations with Cuba shortly after the president Fidel Castro came to power in 1959, few considerable allegations regarding the political abuse of psychiatry in this country emerged before the late 1980s.[25]:74 Americas Watch and Amnesty International published reports alluding to cases of possible unwarranted hospitalization and ill-treatment of political prisoners.[25]:75 These reports concerned the Gustavo Machin hospital in Santiago de Cuba in the southeast of the country and the major mental hospital in Havana.[25]:75 In 1977, a report on alleged abuse of psychiatry in Cuba presenting cases of ill-treatment in mental hospitals going back to the 1970s came out in the United States.[25]:75 It presents grave allegations that prisoners end up in the forensic ward of mental hospitals in Santiago de Cuba and Havana where they undergo ill-treatment including electroconvulsive therapy without muscle relaxants or anaesthesia.[25]:75 The reported application of ECT in the forensic wards seems, at least in many of the cited cases, not to be an adequate clinical treatment for the diagnosed state of the prisoner—in some cases the prisoners seem not to have been diagnosed at all.[25]:75 Conditions in the forensic wards have been described in repulsive terms and apparently are in striking contrast to the other parts of the mental hospitals that are said to be well-kept and modern.

A 2009 report by Human Rights Watch concluded that "Raúl Castro has kept Cuba’s repressive machinery firmly in place...since being handed power by his brother Fidel Castro."[26] The report found that "[s]cores of political prisoners arrested under Fidel continue to languish in prison, and Raúl has used draconian laws and sham trials to incarcerate scores more who have dared to exercise their fundamental rights."
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Freedom House classifies Cuba as being "Not Free",[27] and notes that "Cuba is the only country in the Americas that consistently makes Freedom House’s list of the Worst of the Worst: the World’s Most Repressive Societies for widespread abuses of political rights and civil liberties."[28]

A 1999 Human Rights Watch report notes that the Interior Ministry has principal responsibility for monitoring the Cuban population for signs of dissent.[29] In 1991 two new mechanisms for internal surveillance and control emerged. Communist Party leaders organized the Singular Systems of Vigilance and Protection (Sistema Unico de Vigilancia y Protección, SUVP). Rapid Action Brigades (Brigadas de Acción Rapida, also referred to as Rapid Response Brigades, or Brigadas de Respuesta Rápida) observe and control dissidents.[29] THE GOVERNMENT ALSO "MAINTAINS ACADEMIC AND LABOR FILES (EXPEDIENTES ESCOLARES Y LABORALES) FOR EACH CITIZEN, IN WHICH OFFICIALS RECORD ACTIONS OR STATEMENTS THAT MAY BEAR ON THE PERSON'S LOYALTY TO THE REVOLUTION. BEFORE ADVANCING TO A NEW SCHOOL OR POSITION, THE INDIVIDUAL'S RECORD MUST FIRST BE DEEMED ACCEPTABLE

CUBA'S RANKING WAS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE PRESS FREEDOM INDEX 2008 COMPILED BY THE REPORTERS WITHOUT BORDERS (RWB).[4] CUBA WAS NAMED ONE OF THE TEN MOST CENSORED COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD BY THE COMMITTEE TO PROTECT JOURNALISTS.[33]

Media is operated under the supervision of the Communist Party's Department of Revolutionary Orientation, which "develops and coordinates propaganda strategies".[33]
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>>74404911
>>74404987
>>74405058
>>74405087

wikipedophile
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The Inter-American Commission on Human Rights assess that: "It is evident that the exercise of the right to freedom of expression under this article of the Constitution is governed by two fundamental determinants: on the one hand, the preservation and strengthening of the communist State; on the other, the need to muzzle any criticism of the group in power."[34] Human rights group Amnesty International assert that the universal state ownership of the media means that freedom of expression is restricted. Thus the exercise of the right to freedom of expression is restricted by the lack of means of mass communication falling outside state control.[35] Human Rights Watch states: "Refusing to recognize human rights monitoring as a legitimate activity, the government denies legal status to local human rights groups. Individuals who belong to these groups face systematic harassment, with the government putting up obstacles to impede them from documenting human rights conditions. In addition, international human rights groups such as Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International are barred from sending fact-finding missions to Cuba. It remains one of the few countries in the world to deny the International Committee of the Red Cross access to its prisons

Foreign journalists are systematically expelled from Cuba, e.g. notable journalists of New Left Gazeta Wyborcza, Anna Bikont and Seweryn Blumsztahn, were expelled in 2005.
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Human Rights Watch states that "freedom of assembly is severely restricted in Cuba, and political dissidents are generally prohibited from meeting in large groups.[36] Amnesty states that "All human rights, civil and professional associations and unions that exist today in Cuba outside the officialdom of the state apparatus and mass organizations controlled by the government are barred from having legal status. This often puts at risk the individuals who belong to these associations of facing harassment, intimidation or criminal charges for activities which constitute the legitimate exercise of the fundamental freedoms of expression, association and assembly

In 2001 an attempt was made by Oswaldo Payá Sardiñas and others from the Christian Liberation Movement, operating as the Varela Project, to have a national plebiscite using provisions in the Constitution of Cuba which provided for citizen initiative. If accepted by the government and approved by public vote, the amendments would have established such things as freedom of association, freedom of speech, freedom of press, as well as starting private businesses. The petition was refused by the National Assembly and in response a referendum was held in support of socialism being a permanent fixture of the constitution, for which the government claimed 99% voter approval.

Human rights groups including Amnesty International have long been critical of what the Cuban authorities have termed "Acts of repudiation" (actos de repudio). These acts occur when large groups of citizens verbally abuse, intimidate and sometimes physically assault and throw stones and other objects at homes of Cubans considered to be counter-revolutionary. Human rights groups suspect that these acts are often carried out in collusion with the security forces and sometimes involve the Committees for the Defence of the Revolution or the Rapid Response Brigades. The level of violence of these acts have increased significantly since 2003
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>>74405166
kekked

Prior to January 13, 2013, Cuban citizens could not leave or return to Cuba without first obtaining official permission, which was sometimes denied.[51] Unauthorized travel abroad had sometimes resulted in criminal prosecution. It was common, in those days, that certain citizens who were authorized travel (primarily medical personnel and other professionals deemed essential to the country) were not permitted to take their children with them overseas. In the event that Cuban doctors defect to the United States when they are sent to a "mission" out of Cuba to any foreign country, any children left behind would not be allowed to join their defector parent for a minimum of ten years, even if they had received a foreign visa, and regardless of their age

EVEN DISCUSSING ABOUT UNAUTHORIZED TRAVEL CARRIED A SIX-MONTH PRISON SENTENCE

On July 13, 1994, 72 Cubans attempted to leave the Island on a World War II era tugboat named the 13 de Marzo. In an attempt by the Cuban Navy to stop the tugboat, patrol boats were sent out to intercept the tug. Crewmen and survivors reported that the interception vessels rammed the tugboat and sprayed its passengers with high-pressure fire hoses, sweeping many overboard.

Education in Cuba is normally free at all levels and controlled by the Ministry for Education. In 1961 the government nationalized all private educational institutions and introduced a state-directed education system. The system has been criticized for political indoctrination and for monitoring the political opinions of the students. It has also been criticized for prohibiting any private alternatives to the state-directed education system and for limiting the power of parents to influence their children's education.
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>>74405171
>>74405205
more of the same
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

wikiPEDOPHILE
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STRONG IDEOLOGICAL CONTENT IS PRESENT. The constitution states that educational and cultural policy is based on Marxism.[53] A FILE IS KEPT ON CHILDREN'S "REVOLUTIONARY INTEGRATION" AND IT ACCOMPANIES THE CHILD FOR LIFE. UNIVERSITY OPTIONS WILL DEPEND ON HOW WELL THE PERSON IS INTEGRATED TO MARXIST IDEOLOGY. THE CODE FOR CHILDREN, YOUTH AND FAMILY STATES THAT A PARENT WHO TEACHES IDEAS CONTRARY TO COMMUNISM CAN BE SENTENCED TO THREE YEARS IN PRISON.

Healthcare in Cuba is also free.

However, THERE IS NO RIGHT TO PRIVACY, OR A PATIENT'S INFORMED CONSENT, OR THE RIGHT TO PROTEST OR SUE A DOCTOR OR CLINIC FOR MALPRACTICE.[54][55] MOREOVER, THE PATIENT DOES NOT HAVE RIGHT TO REFUSE TREATMENT (for example, a Rastafarian cannot refuse an amputation on grounds that his religion forbids it.)[54][55] Many Cubans complain about politics in medical treatment and health care decision-making.[54]

After spending nine months in Cuban clinics, Katherine Hirschfeld asked in her paper "My increased awareness of Cuba’s criminalization of dissent raised a very provocative question: TO WHAT EXTENT IS THE FAVORABLE INTERNATIONAL IMAGE OF THE CUBAN HEALTH CARE SYSTEM MAINTAINED BY THE STATE’S PRACTICE OF SUPPRESSING DISSENT AND COVERTLY INTIMIDATING OR IMPRISONING WOULD-BE CRITICS?"[54]

Family doctors are expected to keep records of patients "political integration".[55] Epidemiological surveillance has become juxtaposed with political surveillance.

Wow, what a utopia
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>>74389868
>love cuba
Ha! If everyone loves it so much. Why do I have a Cuban lady cleaning the shit stains out of my toilet?
Seriously, Cuba and Cubans are the laughing stock of the Caribbean. Biggest and most populous island. Blessed with natural resources and natural beauty. And still a fucking shithole.

>But muh trade embargo.
That only counts for the US you commie bastard. The rest of the world, including Europe still can and do trade with Cuba.
The only nation that can drag Cuba out of the gutter is America. And the only way it can do so is through sending tourists over to spend American dollars. And even that is only going to help things for about 25% or so of the island.

Of course America under the leadership of an actual fucking chimp is dumb enough to end the embargo. Despite Cuba still being commies. Still keeping political prisoners. Still hating the US. Still doing everything that caused the embargo to be put in place in the first place.
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>>74390362
Read Marx.
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>>74389868
Who the fuck loves Cuba? I've only heard commies talking about cuba being worth anything.
Sounds like a shithole to me desu
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>>74392626
The whites are mostly upper class, so they left to the USA. It is whites that keep countries running and lower IQ blacks, mestizos and mulattoes which are more prone to support socialism and gibmedats. So when the Revolution came, the whites just packed up and left.

The same is happening in Venezuela right now, massive white flight on a national scale.

Good for us, we are getting a lot of white upper class Venezuelan qt refugees.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpbQyjwRtXw
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>>74406023
Wait is she shilling "When I got to choose a country to flee to. I chose the great nation of Argentina?"
Also did she make a Trump reference for the US?
Sorry I don't speak maid.
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>>74406477
Pretty much. She is explaining that she chose Argentina because it's safe, developed and has the best public universities of the options she considered. She didn't mention Trump though, just that college in the US is expensive while in Argentina is free.

Sucks to be you Curacao, you are right next door, you are going to get all the nigger commie refugees when Venezuela collapses.

Countries that are a plane-trip away should be fine though.
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>>74390416
I live in Miami and wealthy Cubans buy those 1950s Chevys and others all the time as a hobby thing.
>>74392626
It's like if they took a pic of an American ghetto and said "everyone is black in America".
>>74406477
cool flag
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>>74406861
Yeah. We are bracing for the niggerflood.

Also kek. She wants gibmedat programs. No wonder she didn't pick Chile. She would have to actually work.
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>>74389868
By "everyone" do you you mean, "except for all of the Cubans who left while they could" or "the ones who make rafts out of garbage to cross shark infested ocean to get to Miami"?
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>>74389868
Visited Cuba 6 times for "education" as an instructor. Cuba is enjoyable because the food is great and the people are friendly. Aside from that, they live on something equitable to about $1.50/day. I also recall all the classical buildings that are actually maintained house drug lords in the upstairs; at least twice I was stopped by a guard for walking around the wrong corner in a museum/homestead.

It's actually very sad because talking to Cubans about American elections only brings a quizzical look to their face; most cannot fathom having a different leader, and think that their's tells the US what to do, including telling the US that Cuba's riches are not for Americans and that's why THEY don't let Americans in.

Strange place.
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>>74409055
Most of them were probably playing dumb.
The most terrible thing of totalitarian regimes is their ability to pit ordinary people against each other.

If they strayed off the government line and any other Cuban heard them, they could probably report them to the authorities in exchange for favors.

>>74407287
Pretty much, we have all kinds of foreigners using our free universities, from Chileans to Peruvians... the welfare state looks nice on paper but in the long run it will be the death sentence of any modern nation.

I wish we could go all ancap and cut all freebies, at least to the immigrants.
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>>74389868
Because the area is beautiful
It's a resort area but been fucked In the ass by communism
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