Intermarium is needed now more than ever.
See >>74265880
The globalist west is not taking kindly to Eastern Europes stance against mass immigration and worshipping of Islam, and distancing themselves further from their globalist agenda. Meanwhile on the other side Russia and their expansionist dreams of recreating the Soviet Union are ever present and Putin has been shown to take agressive action on multiple ocassions, and no doubt wants the Eastern European countries isolated from the West as pariah states due to not accepting the forced mass migration and daring to exercise their sovereignty. So that he can absorb them into the greater Russian bloc.
Eastern European countries are once again in a position where isolated they are weak but united they are strong, just like after WWI, just like during the time when Piłsudski advocated heavily for an intermarium which the rest of the balts and eastern countries ignored. We need an Intermarium now more than ever, and the Visegrad 4 group is a good building block, it needs to be expanded, it needs to be strengthened with more member countries all seeking the right to exercise their sovereignty and not be puppets of either western globalism or russian expansionism.
Imagine in the near future a Central European Intermarium (CEI) in place, to deter the West and the East and more importantly prevent any situation like Ukraine where the US fought their proxy war against Russia, and Russia gained more ground, war between or in the CEI would not happen and if either Russia or the US/EU tried something against a CEI member, the entire CEI would respond, because united they are strong, isolated they are weak.
The absolute worst thing that can happen is the Intermarium countries never solve their petty squabbling and never put in the effort for it, just like before and all these isolated countries get stepped all over and become puppets of either superpower, not even the V4 would be enough to prevent that right now.
>implying the EU or russia would let it happen
The last Intermarium thread was filled with petty bickering and squabbling that the US/EU and Russia would be all too happy to see continue in the geopolitical sphere so that this neutral bloc of countries attempted since 1918 doesn't materialize.
Let's instead discuss how this would realistically happen, I think V4 is the foundation for the Intermarium, if every country can be as comitted to idea now as every other country.
The main thing is the provide a solid buffer against the EU and US and against Russia, so that neither of them are able to use any of the Intermarium countries against each other or as proxies, and puppets for their agendas.
Therefore assuring the sovereignty of each CEI country, against the agendas of the West and East, backed up by a strong military alliance and pledge to defend each other the way US pledges to defend Taiwan against agression by China.
History after WWI would have looked quite different if there was an Intermarium in place to curtail agression from Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. We find ourselves in a similar position now if you think about it, and the mistake of forsaking an Intermarium must not be repeated again, or these countries will likely be trampled under by one foot or the other.
>>74280924
>ukraine
no such thing
>>74280999
Some anon in the last thread said Russia might warm up to the idea if it means the Intermarium countries are neutral to the US and NATO as well, so they dont feel as threatened.
Imagine it working like Switzerland, neutral and ready to defend their neutrality, though its now several countries working for that common goal.
>>74281570
Fuck off you had all that bickering and squabbling in the last thread, this thread is discussing how it can be seriously applied within todays geopolitical sphere, without any rash action like splitting up or swallowing up Ukraine or something which will only backfire especially without any Intermarium entrenched in Europe before that happens.
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>>74281808
>how it can be seriously applied within todays geopolitical sphere
V4 + Bulgaria and Romania is doable IF there is a strong support from both government and the population, but I'm not sure if Ukraine and Belarus would be interested in a union of such.
After all Belarus is currently 99% tied to Russia both economically and politically, and Ukraine is... well in a state of civil war, not sure if this is the kind of country we would like to form union with to b honest
For the last fucking time. No. Fucking. Romania.
>>74282834
I agree, the foundation of the Intermarium has to be strong and solid, so including those countries might not be the best idea right away.
If nothing further happens to bring Intermarium to fruiton, at least there is the V4 which may provide some buffer against the west and russia but not nearly enough as we see now. The EU/US are no doubt thinking how to bring "democracy" to Poland and Hungary and the V4 might be small fry compared to what they have in store esepcially considering Merkel's EU army agenda.
If the prospect of an EU Army becomes an ever more present and growing threat maybe then the V4 and neighboring countries will wisen up and form an Intermarium that is stronger than the V4, hopefully.
>>74283122
What about Finland? Do they fit into the Intermarium idea?
The idea being to have as many countries as possible to be united and militarily strong enough to defend their neutrality against the EUSSR and Russia. And that seems like something Finland might want to be a part of as well due to their history with Russia.
You're all delusional if you think the EU is going to let those countries leave after the last 20 years of investing there.
Why is Finland included in this? Aside from Estonia we have nothing in common with the eastern bloc. Besides we already have a policy to work with other Nordics as far as security is concerned.
That is, if we aren't just gonna straight up join NATO which is looking more likely every day.
