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What do you think of Italy? Have you ever been there or did you just meet some dagos of italian descent?
WW1, WW2 jokes accepted!
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>>74252746
pro: me
cons: you
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>>74252813
Just the same.
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>>74252746
Thank you for helping me make my coffee every morning.
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the north is a shithole, the south is literally africa
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>>74252746
it's just a very boring place imo
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>>74252904
oh american that using moka instead sciacquone.
ebin!
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>>74252932
Sorry switzerland for stealing your jobs with our low waged workers.
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>>74252932
t. mountain jew
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>>74252746
Give South Tyrol back.
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Incredible country.
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Negri > terroni >>>>>> sabbianegri
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Was there in the summer holiday in Rome. It was awfull. Gypsies and niggers trying to sell s.o EVERYWHERE
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>>74252746
Been over three times, although I have never been south of Rome.

Generally a chill country, lovely countryside and wine. People are lazy (being Latins) but pleasant. Venice smells like urine everywhere though.
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>>74253398
Never, I enjoy going there on vacation and still speak Italian.
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>>74252746
Honestly if you purged Sicilians and the Napolese or just temporarily turned them into a a colony with no voting rights or local representation you would have a shot at making one of the best countries in Europe.
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Pros: Wine, food, fashion, art, architecture

Cons: niggers and gypsy beggars, drivers on the road

I've been to Venice, Assisi, Florence, Pisa, the Vatican, and Rome. Romans are very forward with people. I miss Venice the most as it just feels like it's own world. Kill all the Africans through eugenics and Italy will improve so much. I almost had to beat a Kenyan to the ground before I ended up throwing his stupid fucking Chinese trinkets he kept pushing on me.
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>>74253550
I've been there for one week last year. I had the same impression, beautiful city ruined by gypsies and corruption.
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>>74253313
t. terrone
>inb4 "no"
tutti gli italiani sono terroni
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>>74253573
>Venice smells like urine everywhere though.
It's not urine. It's rancid pigeon shit.
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>>74253398
if it was for me, i gave you back that italo-kraut shithole ASAP.
though your butthurt makes you very funny.
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>>74253573
>People are lazy
when will this meme end?
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>>74253577
GIVE IT BACK!
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>>74253667
That is somewhat gratifying to know, since the humidity makes alleys all seem wet.

Still smells like urine though.
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>>74253630
>Kill all niggers

Nah senpai we need them
>http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/italian-tomatoes-the-product-of-migrant-slave-labour/news-story/fece485267a1dd13b34a9ac78718208d
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>>74253659
uhh dat outrage
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Absolutely love Italy.

> great food
> beautiful women
> nice clothes
> cool way of life
> amazing landscapes and architecture
> less niggers than France
> lots of redpilled people
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my dads father is from Torino. My mother is Israeli.


My non-jewish italian side of the family is 100% less nuclear.

Italians are scum
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>>74253832
> My mother is Israeli.

stopped reading here
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>>74253832

>Spotted the kike
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>>74252746
Let me just swtich sides again
>italy in anything ever
>well dressed but useless

Honestly, you retards are worse than the frogs.
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>>74253886
so flashy

>>74253896
Va fancullo testa di cazzo
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>>74253108
>Italian Coffee
>good

cheesus christ
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>>74253886
Ahmed, don't hate. At least we Jews don't need to guilt our way into existence like sand niggers.
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>>74254008
Can't you Americans even shut the fuck up about things you're clearly inferior at
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>>74253966

>Vaffanculo testa di cazzo
>fixed

Very good ameribro!
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>>74253727
What the actual fuck, is this real?

no wonder yuros are so poor
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>>74254110
לך תזדיין בן זוהב
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>>74254021
kek

Jews :

> drive german cars
> eat french cuisine
> wear italian clothes
> go on vacations in Paris, London, Milano
> shit on Europe and its people

You people are disgusting.
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>>74254090
In two years you'll all be drinking starbuck's burnt coffee. :^)
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>>74253398
South Tyroler here, ask me anything my Austrian friend.
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I like Italy.
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>>74252746
>pros
Very nice people, and red pilled (saw shop owner kick out some Tunisian that didn't speak Italian
Beautiful architecture
Best food in the west
>cons
Sicily
Corrupt Government
Bad traffic


Overall, it's a nice place with a rich history. They just need to fix their government
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>>74254188

jesus christ, how american know such tricks to trigger italian people
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>>74254188
Starbucks never wanted to start a business in Italy because they have literally no chance of selling their overpriced hipster shit.
The only place where they could run a shop is in large cities and nowhere else.
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>>74254188
>paying StarJew to roast your coffee
>not saving $ and getting better product by doing it at home
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Padanian indipendence when?
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>>74254228
Hello South Tyrol. When will you rejoin the fatherland?
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>>74254188
Starbucks here is going to fail harder than your army did in Vietnam.
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>>74254559
Holy fuck Italy bringing the bantz
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So funny...at least South Italy is not colonized like North Italy
Percentages of stangers, nigger and sandnigger in North Italy cites:
Milan - almost 20%
Turin more than 15%
Venice more than 10%
Pioltello 25% lol it's a record
South Italy:
Palermo: not even 4%
Naples: almost 5%
Bari: not even 3%
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>>74252746
Don't like Italy, don't like Italians, you people are as bad as the fucking french.
Just mass suicide and be done with it
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>>74254559
ohhh foockin' perfectly roasted
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Spaghettianons how did the North manage not to get screwed over and infested by the mafia like the south?

I mean they even bury nuclear waste in their farms down there and have trash piled up in the streets. Its utter maddness
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>>74254559
>US Army
>fail

Try again Jamal. We did abandon south vietnam though.
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>>74254437
Our government threatened to deploy the army in our region if we even only tried to held a referendum.

In my opinion we would be better as independent country like Lichtenstein or San Marino since we have a lot of different laws from both Italy and Austria and we are currently doing very good (we have one of the highest GDP per capita in Europe).

I also like how other Italians keep saying that we are a parasite region when we are the most contributing region in Italy, and also other autonomous regions like Sicily are the real parasite in our country, sucking money from Italy and wasting them on corruption and criminality.
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>>74254676
that's because the South is not that different from Africa or the Middle East
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>>74254172
>Use Microsoft
>use wavz
>Use apple

All Israeli innovated companies

>Mein fuherer

Goy you so cray cray
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>>74254682
Killing ourselves is still a better option than having emu warlords doing the job for you. And I don't even want to think how badly that upcoming carp war will end for your people.
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>>74254559
I'm not sure you realize how many gooks we killed
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>>74254769
>muh bluepill
and you have never ask youself why you have to leave from Vietnam?
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>>74254916
I wouldn't waste my time arguing with the descendent of a convict and an abo.
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>>74254772
>deploy the Army
>Italy wanting to act against international law

You could stay autonomous - same as right now - with the difference of being a part of Austria, and more importantly Tyrol on maps.
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>>74252746
Visited Tuscany and Rome in the recent years and I've been to Venice a decade or so ago. Landscape is nice, I love your architecture and history and the food/wines are also great. But you have too many niggers, especially in Rome, in Tuscany they concentrated only on the beaches.
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>>74254326
>>74254330
>>74254559
Don't worry you spergs, they will have humility and respect for the mud you call coffee. https://news.starbucks.com/news/starbucks-announces-it-will-open-stores-in-Italy-in-2017

If they can open a location in IRAQ, they will STEAMROLL italy, all you limp-wristed canoli addicts won't be able to lift a fucking finger.
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>>74252746
>>74217286 (OP)
What the hell? Why the fuck would you make this thread? For what purpose could it possibly exist to serve? Was there honestly any reason to start this? Could you really not have gone your whole life without starting this? I really don't see any reason for it to exist. It's like' "hey, let's start a stupid fucking thread that serves no fucking purpose!" Do you enjoy this? Is this your twisted way of having fun? Are you enjoying yourself? Why would you do this? And why the fuck have so many people replied to this shitty thread? Who would subjugate themselves to such self-loathing? Is there any reason? Do they get off on it? Why? Who does that? You guys are a bunch of disgusting freaks. I don't even know why i come here anymore.
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>>74254925
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>>74254676
Your numbers are entirely made up and exaggerated
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>>74255027
I want the axis back, I miss you guys, I miss when we all were friends and we played nazi together..
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>>74254789
Please tell me more about bill gates and Steve jobs being Jewish. You fucking kiles lie as easy as you breathe.
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Are Italians white? Cute one is interested in me but I gotta know if I'll wind up saving my race or being a degenerate.
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>>74254976
>muh redpill that's actually bluepill
Literally identical situation to the Iraq war:
>US goes in be fuck it
>public: wooo we wont
>three years later: we're still here?
>five years later, public want to GTFO
>gov know that can't happen because instability
>Public elects liberal pres
>liberal pres take away US troos
>shitty democracy falls apart
>people we were fighting take over the county
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>>74255251
Does she have brown eyes?

Do you have brown eyes?
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>>74255251
you britbong have a mudslim as london major, you are already degenerate as fuck
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>>74255290
She has brown eyes, mine are blue.

>>74255327
I'm from way up north m8, hardly any blacks and muzzies in my village. Fuck the south.
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>>74255251
White as fuck.
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>>74253398
Ok. Do you want south italy too?
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http://www.museotorino.it/view/s/bdd983a0cb2e4c06912b6539e0d1cee7

https://italiaexpress.wordpress.com/2012/07/20/lemigrazione-italiana-interna-negli-anni-50-e-60/

Top kek we have colonized you in the past, don't be so rude to your ancestors.
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>>74254925
You still got zerg-rushed in the end. The only achievements you got out of that fiasco where: a) Managing to still lose a war that was basically won as of january 27 1973, due to republicans accidentally the whole presidency and hippies taking over, b) Organizing the largest retreat in modern history.

It was a major failure, believe me. We know a thing or two about failing militarily.
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>>74254734
Dirty money gets made in the South, the North is for money laundering. Politicians act as middlemen. Mafia is a centralized entity with immense financial power and governs our country, make no mistakes
The farms you are talking about are all mafia owned.

We had a chance to clean up the parliament with Movimento 5 Stelle some time ago, and from there clean all the way down, but people are exposed to propaganda day and night (just check out how well do we fare in terms of freedom of expression) so they just rabidly spout slogans and memes against them, as carefully instilled by our mafia overlords via newspapers/national TV/etc.

There is no chance of economic growth here, and the recent trend that looks like some kind of economic development (courtesy of Draghi's helicopter money) gets trumpeted by our media just like it happens in North Korea.
Renzi is a facade men for Mama Merkel, he just does what he's told and does a few favours here and here to his mafia sponsored benefactors (that also happen to own all of the major newspapers)

Real issues are constantly swept under the rug and hidden behind a courtain of "North vs South", "Left vs Right" and "Let's waste a few months in parliament debating whether fags should get married or not".
Nothing really ever gets done, every chance of change drowns in endless bickering between different political parties paid by the same mafia, while their braindead supporters treat it like it's a football match

It's fucked, it's all fucked
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>>74255235
You're aware that the head of the companies reside in in Tel Aviv, right?

Your goyim autism is showing,
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cons ; facist !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(
like ow do u do becose no europ countruy is black bUT still rasciste
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http://www.comuniverso.it/index.cfm?menu=508

These are real numbers, i don't even count the illegal immigrants.
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>>74255078
Only hipster faggots in Milan will ever go to Steinbucks, otherwise people won't give a shit because you can get a breakfast twice as good for half the price literally anywhere else.
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>>74255196
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>>74255466
No thanks.
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>>74253728
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italian women are the most beautiful in the world.
that's why italian men all have weird mommy issues.
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>>74255481
God dam that's worse than I thought. I saw some Addiopizzo stuff and got all optimistic.

Does the food and women make up for it?
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>>74255621
>Uncharacteristically, Starbucks has also dipped its toes into franchising.
http://www.seattletimes.com/business/starbucks-finally-perks-up-in-europe/

The best part is that, Italians will be doing it to themselves. :^)
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I went there for 3 weeks during April this year. Such a beautiful country, so much history and a great culture although, Rome was littered and smelled of poo every street. I like the Italians but for some reason all the women over 30 are such hags, and are quite rude where as the men are kind, funny fellows. There were refugees in every big city trying to sell me their roses or bird seed and their selfie sticks. They're a real problem I hope they all leave. Orvieto was based, on a wall was spray painted "white power" and saw a lot of nationalism in quite a few cities. Overall experience of Italy was 8/10 great country. Thinking of moving there
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>>74255651
Sorry, it's a pqckage deal only
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>>74255481
>some time ago
that time is gone, m5s is as bad as everyone else right now
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>>74255827
>Ctrl+F Italy
>0 results

Kys Tyrone.
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>>74252746
Leggiti l'ultimo post del Bagnai.
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Coming from Sicily.
I can say i'm white as fuck.
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Visited Italy as a typical tourist that doesn't speak the language so my viewpoints will be a little skewed.

What I noticed

>Beautiful architecture
>Only fat people are American tourists
>Everyone wears a suit
>Can't really get 'bad' food
>Africans selling bootleg purses etc in the street
> Gypsies / pickpockets but again was in tourist area so it's to be expected.
> Scooters everywhere

I had some good and bad experiences with the locals but I work in a very touristy area and I can tell you that tourists are resented anywhere they are en masse especially when they don't speak the language so I take my negative experiences with a grain of salt.

All in all Italy is pretty great. It's a country that has had it's ups and downs but it's been there for thousands of years and you see that every where you go (at least I did). If I spoke Italian I wouldn't be opposed to living there. Seems like the quality of life and sense of community is very strong there.
I think a modest wage in Italy would give you financial access to all the things you need but living in a time capsule of the Roman empire, good food, and a strong sense of identity, community, and culture are better than making an above average wage in a place that lacks those things.

I live right outside of Boston and even though this is the oldest part of the country it still felt depressing coming back because the stark contrast in architecture. Going from Roman arches and beautiful marble buildings to weather worn duplexes was a bad feel.
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>>74252746
I've been to most major European countries, Italy seemed like the best place to me. Great weather, great architecture, people care about their culture a lot. Seems like a perfect place to live. Don't know anything about your politics, but you didn't seem cucked at all to me, seemed like you didn't give a shit about any country but your own.
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>>74255825
Yeah at least here you ain't getting cucked and the food is the best in the world.
Our women are hot and family oriented, overwhelmingly catholic and asserive (which is why there is the whole mama boy stereotype since families are matriarchical especially in the south)
>>74256046
Don't believe the memes senpai, they still good. They will make Italy great again
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>>74255619
>http://www.comuniverso.it/index.cfm?menu=508
The majority of those are eastern europeans and chinks
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>>74256095
http://goofynomicsPUNTOblogspotPUNTOit/2016/05/autorazzismo-e-lotta-di-classe.html
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>>74252746
Pros: Wine, Italian Firearms Manufacturers (Beretta, Benelli, Tanfoglio), some of the people

Cons: Never been, but I hear the entire southern part is garbage.
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>>74252746
I had an Italian in my class. He was bro tier but dumb as shit. But he was from sicily.
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>>74255481
>movimento 5 stelle
>literally communist
>muh give gibs to literally everyone
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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Anyone know anything about Cirella?
My family was from there
Is it a shithole?
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>>74256187
Eastern european is a codeword for gipsy.
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>>74256395
>I hear the entire southern part is garbage
only if you're a clueless tourist or if you can't find a job (which is way too common)
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>>74256458
No, there aren't that many gypsies, they're actual Romanians
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>>74256429
>movimento 5 stelle is communist
>"""""""gibs""""""""""
We piss away 130bn in tax evasion and 20bn in corruption PER YEAR

Somehow, for the mentally ill PD/Abberluscone/Salvini voter this is not a problem. He doesn't need that money. And if you say otherwise, you are a populist
God help us
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>>74255078
You know nothing americlap.
Coffee here is almost a ritual. It isn't just about what you drink. It's where and when you do it. A fast-food environment like starbucks is never going to replace or even compete with the thousands of little bars scattered around every town or city. Where for years the same people, old and young, gather every day before work or after lunch, talking about the same things while drinking their coffee.
Teaching Italians to like starbucks coffee is like trying to teach a Jew not to pick up coins tossed on the street: not happening.
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>>74256629
>We piss away 130bn in tax evasion and 20bn in corruption PER YEAR

Numeri a caso.
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>>74252746
Country is shit
Corruption killed it
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>>74256674
>http://www.ilfattoquotidiano.it/2014/11/17/g20-renzi-corruzione-ed-evasione-in-italia-valgono-160-miliardi/1216591/

If you don't like the source, take 15 seconds of your truly precious time to google the Eurostat report for 2015. Estimates for corruption are inflated to 60bn in that report if i recall correctly
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>>74256629
So? I don't want to finance lazy asshole, I know that the situation is terrible but this socialist move will make things worse. Do somethinge to make industry feasAble instead.
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>>74254772
I've never heard of anyone saying that south tyrol is a parasite region, where did you take that one from
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>>74256965
>not cheating taxes and recovering money from corruption is socialist
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>>74256911
>Estimates for corruption

Appunto, numeri a caso.
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>>74256477
I don't know, my grandparents didn't like the southern part of Italy, and my Grandfather is a full blooded Sicilian. (Maybe that has to do with it?)
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>>74256911
>electing comedians will fix this
t. stellina
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>>74252746
Niggers of Europe.

Source: Father in law (first gen) and Wife, who's extended family still live there.

Everyone is on some kind of government "pension" or govt. dole somehow.
No air conditioning (backwards thinking, AC will kill you/make you sick)
Hospitals with open windows, Dr's smoking.

Very little entrepreneurial spirit, invested in maintaining status-quo. Men living at home until late 20's into 30's.

Dirty and garbage ridden. (people/towns just throw garbage off a cliff/hill)
Most modern appliances are not seen as we know them (refrigerators, clothes washers/dryers)

Jobs and Economy based on nepotism and patronage.
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>>74257196
Real comedians has never been tried.
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>>74257088

It is when you want to gove this money to people instead of incentivate our bleeding industry sector
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>>74256970
He's probably hinting to the fact that due to your special statute region status, you get to keep most of your tax money, while the rest of the regions have to send it to Rome, so that good politicians can use it to save banks from default, spend it to shelter those poor refuges, buy more blue cars, etc...
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>>74257419
You keep writing this shit and i keep telling you to stop making retarded shit up
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I'm doing a brief study exchange in Prato this June/July.

Any Italbros have some advice, tip, etc?
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>>74257196
>>74257117
>denial
I am actively speculating in this country's demise in the next 5 years.
Looks like i'm going to need to double down gentlemen.
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>>74253447
Moi je t'aime aussi France <3
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>>74257419
>Everyone is on some kind of government "pension" or govt. dole somehow
no

>No air conditioning (backwards thinking, AC will kill you/make you sick)
no

>Hospitals with open windows, Dr's smoking
depends on the patients, yes but outside

>Very little entrepreneurial spirit, invested in maintaining status-quo.
no, no

>Men living at home until late 20's into 30's.
no secure jobs+very high rents=shit like this, I agree, this is shameful

>Dirty and garbage ridden. (people/towns just throw garbage off a cliff/hill)
some people are cunts

>Most modern appliances are not seen as we know them (refrigerators, clothes washers/dryers)
lel no

>Jobs and Economy based on nepotism and patronage.
can't argue with this
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>>74256970
It is a parasite region , I HOPE AUSTRIA TAKES the fucking apple niggers back , the italian gov gives milion of free money and they can keep 80% of the taxes , other regions can t do that ! Fuck them , austria doesn t want it either , they just want to annoy italy , but they know it s an useless region
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>>74253659
Orologi a cucù e cioccolato.
Sparatevi
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>5 stelle gonna save us
Yeah of course, they aren't a controlled opposition.
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>>74252746
Italians are pretty based, my favorite people after Greeks.
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>>74257655
I really hope we do default in the next few years so we can finally separate from northern Libya and become great again
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>>74253966
>italo american jew
DAAMN
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Tell me this, Italy, where does an average Italian live? Like in an apartment or in a house? How big is this palce? Is it in a big block or in a small building with a long history? Can't really imagine what an average life for an Italian is like, your historic sights are super fancy, but where do actual people live?
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>>74257419
>Very little entrepreneurial spiri
come to Crema you fucking nigger and see for yourself
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>>74257919
Put "quarto oggiaro" on google images.
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>>74258042
Is that just poor people or does middle class live there too? That's just commieblocks
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I hope Germany annexes us
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>>74257550
Dear Dumb Franco-Nigger...it's correct and true. My Wife's Fanily lives in Fiego Italy, outside of Cosenza.
They make wine under a regionally known brand (not going to post it, obviously)

Father in law and wife have been traveling back since late 70's...he left in mid 60's because it was so shitty.
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>>74258161
middle class can generally afford a house in the country and a car and a couple of children. City centers is mostly rich people.
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>>74258161
Not him but in big cities an apartment in a building like that can cost you a shitton, they're usually pretty big and have their own inner garden sometimes and parking slots too. It's mostly because if you live outside the city either you have a car or you won't have access to a lot of stuff.
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>>74258161
He's just fucking with you, that's one of the most deranged neighbourhoods in the country. It's like Detroit or Ferguson suburbs, only slightly better.
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>>74258249
Cool story
>calabrian wine
That's not how you write moonshine
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>>74257551
Italian chinatown
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>>74252746
been there couple months ago for skiing
+ Alps
+ Skiing slopes are maintained better than in France
+ People are chilled
- People are also lazy
- People are also loud sometimes
- Services could be better
- Huge shop and haven't heard of contact-less credit cards
- Roads are all fenced off, ugly and rusty
+ Roads are not as shit quality as ours
+ Huge bowl of free parmigiano cheese in every restaurant, fucking love that
- Lacking toilets just for pissing, only single bowl, line like for ladies toilets
+ Good food
0 coffee is good but i don't drink it
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>>74257551
there are a lot of chinks in prato
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>>74256431
>Is it a shithole?
We're talking about calabria, here everything is a shithole
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>>74258249
And don't give me the Southern vs Northern Italy crap or rural vs urban...they lived and traveled all over the country.

Cousins who live there count the days until they can come back here to visit. 2 of the established cousins who became very established and educated in the field of science are almost never home and constantly traveling outside of the country...guess why?
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>>74252746
I love northern Italy and I visit it's beautiful mountains every year, sometimes both in winter and in summer, sometimes only in summer. Love Italian food, openness and social behaviour (drinking coffe at bars, siesta, greeting everyone, spending time on street talking with neighbours - or at least it looks like that). Southern Italy is a shithole full of niggers and poverty, nuke it pls.
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>>74257419
Oh, god. Here comes the uneducated burger who talks shit and knows fuck.

>Everyone is on some kind of government "pension" or govt. dole somehow.
Everyone is on a pension because in Italy we have a public social security system. When we work, part of our revenue taxes go into a pension funds which are administered by various governative agencies (like INPS) under very strict scrutiny. When we stop working because we are old, we get our money back as a pension. That's the reason behind what you heard.

>No air conditioning (backwards thinking, AC will kill you/make you sick)
Maybe in the 70s. Now everyone has AC.

>Hospitals with open windows, Dr's smoking.
Maybe in the 70s. Now we have very strict regulations against smoking inside enclosed public areas (like hospitals, schools, etc...). You risk a fine up to € 500. A doctor who does that in a hospital is going to get his ass fired.

>Very little entrepreneurial spirit, invested in maintaining status-quo.
Just look at who owns your third biggest automobile manufacturer and saved it from default. Who invented personal computing and a shit-ton of other things you claim as your own. Who is the largest foreign gun manufacturer on your very own US and A soil.

>Men living at home until late 20's into 30's.
This is true, but only because we like to stay with our families, to support them and help, until we need to leave to create our own. And we get married later (past 30 for men, past 25 for women) because we like to actually have the money and the security to support a family before starting one and ending up drowning in debt.

>Dirty and garbage ridden. (people/towns just throw garbage off a cliff/hill)
Only in Naples.

>Most modern appliances are not seen as we know them (refrigerators, clothes washers/dryers)
Things have changes from when your 'ol terrone of a grandpa left for the US on a boat.

>Jobs and Economy based on nepotism and patronage.
Unfortunately, the only true statement of your post.
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>>74258335
>>74258438
That's what I've been told by relatives in Italy

anything else?
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>>74255598
>cons
more like pros
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>>74258613
>Oh, god. Here comes the uneducated burger who talks shit and knows fuck.

I bet he's the same who spam nordicist threads.
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>>74257551
>I'm doing a blief study exchange in Plato this June/July.
>Any Italblos have some advice, tip, etc?
ftfy
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Been to Rome, Florence, Venice. Loved it. Amazing food, women, architecture
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>>74252746
Why is it so difficult to bring up the rural south (Two Sicillies ) to the level of the industrialized north?

Eradicate mafia once and for all and industrialize the region, Sicily especially.
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I've been to some places in Italy: I visited Sicilly, Naples, Rome and Pisa, it was really awesome, I loved it, it's not very different from Portugal and people were generally friendly, I would love to visit the North.
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>>74254772
Don't listen to this biased faggot
his region has 80% tax refunds and it's filled with corruption of money laundering like >>74257729
pointed out.
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Does Italy hate America like everyone else?
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my great-grandfather was an italian immigrant, in WW2 the British government arrested him and put him in a concentration camp where he died lel
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>>74254131
Mothers often work part time if at all. Bring up your statitics if you claim you're better.
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>>74255170
northern italian here

the numbers are true google it
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>>74259162
The numbers include every immigrant, he was talking about sandniggers
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>>74258613
https://youtu.be/YcxUs3ks7x8
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>>74255251
my grandfather's from Florence, he's blonde and blue-eyed

p white desu
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>>74254008
says the yank oh my fuck

there's a reason watered-down coffee is called "americano" you fucking burger
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My great-grandparents moved from rural Lazio to Bongistan in the 20s. My family still have a lot of connection to Italy.

Pros: Stunning landscape, beaches, alps, culture, big cities... You name it they've got it.

Best food in the world.

Fucking hot women.

Family values, although I think that's starting to erode just like the rest of the Western world.

Cons: Corruption, Mafia, Nepotism, disorganization, insane bureaucracy, increasing amount of gypsy trash and third world shitskins... You can barely stand in peace for 5 minutes at the Trevi, Piazza Navona, Colosseum etc. without some ape trying to sell you something.
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