Aren't we all one race? There is no difference from the Europeans and so called 'Native Americans'.
'Native American' is actually quite a racist concept, it implies that any one group has more ownership over a place on earth than others, when we are all one human race on this earth.
America is all of our land, so don't let any angry nativist so called 'native American' tell you any different.
>>74244700
>>>r/eddit
then inheritance should be outlawed?
The very term "native American" to refer to American Indians is a Marxist PC buzzword.
In the 1800s, white nationalists who were wary of immigration used to refer to themselves as native Americans. Pic related, the Know Nothing flag. The Marxists stole the term and gave it to the Indians.
>Aren't we all one race?
No.
>There is no difference from the Europeans and so called 'Native Americans'.
Objectively, statistically, and factually incorrect. Whites have higher IQs, not to mention the obvious cultural differences.
>'Native American' is actually quite a racist concept because it implies they have more ownership over the land
I partly agree, the "Native" aspect is completely wrong. The "Native" Americans crossed over a land-bridge and slaughtered the Clovis people for this land, which we then slaughtered them for. And for some reason, whites must feel bad for doing exactly what Indians did.
>America is all of our land
No, we bought, killed, and died for this land. It is ours. If someone comes and kills us they can have it, but they have to kill us first.
>>74244994
>>74244700
That irony and exposure of hypocrisy presented in a sarcastic way... just ain't gonna work on a board as diverse as /pol
But love the post, using libtards logic against them, tho sadly it doesn't work cos they are too dumb to even realize it when you show it to them
>>74244700
theres something about that mongolian native girl, it's almost like she has nordic features. hmm wonder how that happened?
America, as a nation, did not exist until the colonialists made it.
The land existed, sure. The trees were here. However there was no constitution or bill of rights until our ancestors made it.
"Native Americans" were a conglomerate of warring tribes (Sioux is a large one) that crossed over the ice bridge between Asia and Alaska thousands and thousands of years ago.
Thus "White stole _____" really means 'Whites conquered ______ and made white society in _____ but my hippie professors said that the Indians were capable of creating the same exact thing or something better."
Which, in fact, is delusional.
>>74244817
>says the jew
>>74244994
Genetically speaking the clovis people matched other natives. Whites just want an excuse to justify their actions. Jews are killing whites right now but it's asymmetric.
>>74245189
???
>>74245085
That's never been proven.
>>74244700
Are there any hot American indians, I have yet to see one that's even remotely attractive
>>74244700
Please stop, don't drag natives into this dumb victimization mentality that made black people even dumber. If natives are to survive and improve as a race they need be strong and start working hard.
Just give a look at navajo nation, only 11 grocery stores, 4 in 5 are overweight or obese, lack of basic infrastructure, massive droughts and monsoons expected and they are not prepared, still rely on coal exploration (a technology that's on a natural decline), 1 in 3 have diabetes...
Seriously I know this is probably the are in the worst situation but those people need to man up and do what needs to be done rather than keep crying because of their history.
>>74244743
>>74244817
>>74244833
>>74244994
>>74245077
>>74245085
>>74245098
>>74245120
>>74245085
>>74245120
>>74245131
>>74245189
Also, it is well established that the so called 'Native Americans' only arrived there a few thousand years ago. America was a nation of 'immigrants' right from it's inception, the so called 'Native Americans' have no more a claim over America than a 'British' person like myself.
>>74245308
Are there any white girls that don't have absolutely horrendous smelling pussies?
>>74245308
I have a folder full of them.
Only males tho.
>>74245409
That's absolutely unproven.
>>74245229
What didn't you understand?
UR A JEW>:(
>>74244700
show us your tits love
>>74244994
>crossed over a land-bridge and slaughtered the Clovis people for this land
there is no proof to the land-bridge theory at this point its still a theory
as for clovis that has been disproven from I can't remember which think it was ohio state university
>>74245308
probably
>>74244994
>And for some reason, whites must feel bad for doing exactly what Indians did.
i think people are saying that because natives were not the aggressor party
>>74245409
> the so called 'Native Americans' have no more a claim over America than a 'British' person like myself.
They have no claim to America.
When they decided to go to war against Whites (and subsequently lost) they lost their claim to sovereignty. Whites have more claim to American soil than anyone else.
>>74245422
>t. Chief Spirit Cuck
>>74245308
there's plenty that mixed with europeans so I'm sure there are
>>74245638
I get $5,000 a month from your slut mom and gramma because they're degenerate gamblers!
>>74244700
You're damn right we stole it from the natives. And by Right of Conquest, the only right that matters, we own it now.
>>74244700
native americans arent niggers
>>74245622
>not the aggressor
The biggest problem nowadays is that people think of natives as one race one culture, there were a fuckload of different wildly cultures, at some pacific, some warmongering.
The few times I saw some talk here there was as much banter as a conversation between an a british and an american.
>>74245700
I hope you are doing something for your people, maybe there's still hope but not without union and good planning.
The idea that anyone should feel bad for history is something that's ridiculous to me. If my great-great-grandfater was a murderer, why should I feel bad or sorry about it? I had nothing to do with his life, his actions, his thoughts, I had literally 0 input into anything that happened back when he was alive.
And liberals often use this """argument""" to paint whites as some sort of illegal, evil force, not realizing the 'natives' themselves slaughtered each other relentlessly. Mayans had human sacrifices for fucking EVERYTHING, yet the whites were the evil ones.
Also the application of current, modern morality to olden times is ridiculous as well.
>>74246313
Really if liberals were interested in helping people they'd be making plans about how to make that said demographic independent from "white people's" help. None of them is willing to lift a fucking finger.
>>74245398
Also can anyone explain why in general there's such a general lack of care about natives? Blacks receive a lot of attention despite living in much better conditions.
>>74247134
Out of sight, out of mind. I grew up in Pennsylvania. I never saw a full blooded Indian in my life until I was an adult and I met a Navajo from Oklahoma named Sunrise. He was a fag. Anyway, most Americans don't come into contact with Indians. They're mostly on reservations our out west. You almost never see them in the high population areas. So it's easy to forget they exist.
>>74247234
The reservations, by the way, being absolute shitholes, far worse than any nigger dump like Flint.
But wait, aren't Native Americans mongoloids? The Chinese seem fine.
It's almost as if crippling poverty creates crime and more crippling poverty, and it has nothing to do with genetics.
Huh.
>>74247234
That's pretty depressing I fear that in one or two generations they'll be extinct. I wish something could be done.
>>74247348
Actually no, the crime rates inside reservations aren't anywhere as close as the ones in ghettos. Their biggest problems are health related.
Also no they aren't "mongoloids" there are many millennia separating native americans from their closest "cousins".
>>74244700
My girlfriend is quite interested in North American natives. Are there any actual charity projects where we can work to help the natives in US or Canada? We are both teachers.
>>74247546
>crime rates
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/21/us/on-indian-reservations-higher-crime-and-fewer-prosecutions.html?_r=0
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/02/on-indian-land-criminals-can-get-away-with-almost-anything/273391/
>>74247559
i'm sure you could find something if you hit up any of the native american museums.
i've always wondered if nations grieved in a similar process to how individuals do.
>>74247772
What do you mean by that?
>>74247559
I have been checking and while I did saw some things related to donating money, I haven't seen any NGO projects, which is extremely weird since those seem to be everywhere.
My mother was responsible for helping to create a nutrition program for poor people in ghettos using home gardens which helped to reduce the malnourishment and obesity rates across many states and she wanted to try something there. However looking at the internet you can't find a single thing about NGO projects.
It's, like I said, if nobody cared.
>>74247632
Both articles have no statistics and talk solely about sexual crimes.
Also
>The result has been a jurisdictional tangle that often makes prosecuting crimes committed in Indian Country prohibitively difficult. In 2011, the U.S. Justice Department did not prosecute 65 percent of rape cases reported on reservations. According to department records, one in three Native American women are raped during their lifetimes—two-and-a-half times the likelihood for an average American woman—and in 86 percent of these cases, the assailant is non-Indian.
>non indian
>>74244700
fuck back to tumblr faggot. Im glad we genocided those savage red fucks.
>>74244700
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1y_0NfhF9c
I can assure you those natives also stole the land from the people who lived there before them.
>>74248712
Who?
>>74248741
They are dead and probably no longer exist.
>>74247772
We need issues visas and some organization pre-arrival. Agency which placed us in Eritrea and Angola for teaching programmes, don't work with NA Natives and they couldn't advice anything of value on the matter.
>>74247964
Exactly, very few info out there.
>>74248775
don't be such a fucking cuck. Red men are goddamn retards with no concept of property. Fuckers ate corn all day and jacked off to men dressed as women. Literally as bad as niggers. They dont know how to conquor, only how to smoke drugs.
>>74248311
>>non indian
>>74248311
>>Federal prosecutors in 2011 declined to file charges in 52 percent of cases involving the most serious crimes committed on Indian reservations, according to figures compiled by the Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse at Syracuse University
>>The government did not pursue rape charges on reservations 65 percent of the time last year and rejected 61 percent of cases involving charges of sexual abuse of children, the federal data showed.
>no statistics
Mhm.
>>74245409
30,000 is a bit more than a few thousand. By your logic Anglos have no real right to claim England as their own. Or Italians, or Spaniards, or most of Russia.
>>74248861
>red men are goddamn retards
>fuckers ate com
>conquor
Sure anon.
>>74244700
Am i the only one that think that some natives look like Chinese ,especially this bird ?
>>74247895
i'm not sure how to exactly put it. i'm wondering if the grieving process changes if multiple people are grieving the same thing.
>>74248712
>>74248741
i've heard something about a nation of people called the olmecs, but i think they mainly lived in what became mexico.
>>74248921
libtard confirmed back to tumblr
>>74244700
>Europe is literally bathed in the blood of conquest and strife between many cultures and peoples
>Even though some people are butthurt nobody denies the right of conquest
>European colonizers BTFO native americans
>WAAAH LAND THIEVES GIVE BACK AMERICA
Childish.
>>74248976
Olmecs are the same exact type of people that existed across the entirety of the Americas. Mayans, Aztecs, Cherokee, there is about as much difference between all of them as there is between Frenchmen and Germans.
>>74248882
We are all children of the earth. So called 'native americans' are just angry nativists.
And the blacks in Africa? BITCH PLEASE. Like we all came from Africa, everyone is an African. I as a white British man have as much claim over Africa as any black men.
Now I think of it the term "African American" shouldn't just apply to blacks. We are all Africans.
>>74248879
No total number of cases, statistics related to crimes per 100,000 people, no differentiation between the types of "serious crime", not NAMING what's considered a "serious crime", not giving the race of the criminal, not specifying the reservations.
>>74249068
It's the same mindset that kept Poland and Germany at each others throats forever.
>>74249107
speak for yourself libcuck, im no nigger.
>>74249027
I'm sure your case was much more well reasoned and thought out. Please, regale me with your knowledge.
>>74248976
It's certainly much more a public ordeal if a nation grieves.
As for the Olmecs, you'd be right, but the proposed migration took place before they arose.
>>74248836
Nice of you to think of our current situation. I actually had to move out of the reservation to complete my education. Some of my current generation are trying our best to get us on our feet.
>>74249107
> Like we all came from Africa
No we didn't part of the human race came from australia.
>>74248940
Supposedly they all came over from Russia/Asia originally.
But yeah they totally look Asian.
>>74249186
knowledge? are you a retard? everyone knows red men are savage retards pounding sticks and drinking firewhater. You really think they are just as capable as the white man? is that what your rabbi told you?
>>74245085
see, >>74248882
Your argument does more to hurt your cause than it does help it. Because guess what? Indigenous Americans are few and far between. Meanwhile, you apply that logic to England and it is even moreso applicable to Anglos who are greater in number than indios.
>>74244700
New World Historical lily-gilding is more white-washed than the Holohoax is
It's like people think the native's didn't have warfare with other tribe's over territory and resources.
>>74244700
Isn't it an ultimate proof that Manitou does not exist?
>>74249130
Except it links to a database. Check the reports section for TRAC to find the information you want.
>>74248836
Right now the best way she found to help was try to get a job in their health care system. Weirdly enough the job hasn't been taken in the last 6 or 7 months.
https://youtu.be/_r_32ZRIP4E?t=105
No matter what your legends say, you didn't sprout from the plains like the spring grasses. And you didn't coalesce out of the ether. You came out of the Minnesota woodlands armed to the teeth and set upon your fellow man. You massacred the Kiowa, the Omaha, the Ponca, the Oto and the Pawnee without mercy. And yet you claim the Black Hills as a private preserve bequeathed to you by the Great Spirit.
Chief Sitting Bull, the proposition that you were a peaceable people before the appearance of the white man is the most fanciful legend of all. You were killing each other for hundreds of moons before the first white stepped foot on this continent. You conquered those tribes, lusting for their game and their lands, just as we have now conquered you for no less noble a cause.
>>74249107
If you have claims to a piece of land then that means you can claim and own that land. That means a group of people can create a country. A country has a right to govern itself and protect its borders, which goes directly against your "we are all children of earth" narrative. Faggot.
>>74249309
I just want to see your reasoning and evidence that justifies your views. Speaking of which, where is it. Come now, I'm sure someone who can make such a compelling and logical argument like you can back up their argument with evidence.
>>74249406
Underrated post. The Natives were violent as fuck. More people need to study Archaeology and see the evidence of pre-European violence in the Americas.
>>74249406
When Europe is conquered by Arabs will that same logic apply? Its a complicated moral conundrum.
>>74245219
>Clovis matched natives
No they don't, no one is sure who the Clovis people were. The only thing we know is they were here before the "Native" Americans and they likely fled to Mexico to avoid being completely wiped out by the Indians.
>>74248861
>>74249107
there is a human element in land ownership. if you lived on land that someone claimed for themselves, you'd either have to fight/kill them for it or deal with whatever nation already claimed the general area.
>>74249436
evidence? are you serious? the evidence is all around you, look at the fucking savages today, all they do is smoke drugs and drink booze and jack off all day living off of the white mans tax dollars.
can't believe you're so cucked you need "evidence" to believe something.
>>74249528
Odds are they were the same exact type of people that arrived to America in the same exact way.
Also yes, 30,000 years of living in a place qualifies being native to it.
Hell, I think 1,000 is enough to qualify that; which is why I wouldn't say that Englishmen aren't native to their region despite having existed there for a fraction of the time that indigenous Americans did in the Americas.
>>74249376
Even the databases don't have the numbers I talked about, and you should know how important they are.
>>74249436
Archaeological evidence and research on mass graves shows proof of mass graves with brutal injuries indicating massive warfare or actual genocides between tribes in the Americas.
>>74249597
where's the evidence that you don't need evidence to believe something?
>>74249597
Of course. Are you of any relation to pic related?
>>74249622
>>Hell, I think 1,000 is enough to qualify that;
Leif Erikson came to North America over 1,000 years ago...
>>74249646
So just things that all of humanity has engaged in at some point?
>>74249646
It's about as much bullshit to say that natives were any more peace loving than colonists as it is to say they were less.
Both histories are filled with killing people of similar genetic makeup.
>>74249701
Not a significant colony, has no relation to Spanish or English colonization and aided it in no way whatsoever.
>>74249532
>74249532
Did he mention the part where the native man dies of easily curable illness also? Or where his children freeze to death or get eaten by wolves?
Only white man think he could improve a system like that.
>>74249703
>So just things that all of humanity has engaged in at some point?
Yes my point exactly.
>>74249719
My point. They aren't 100% peace loving noble pipe smoking men. They are just as violent as us.
>>74249666
nice try you jewish shill but I'm not talking about real evidence, just evidence that liberals use.
>>74249747
excellent goalpost moving
Seriously, why are people more worried about the moral high ground of their past when that's not going to change their current shitty situation? I can't be the only one more interested in getting them back on their feet rather than arguing about meaningless shit.
>>74245626
> Whites have more claim to American soil than anyone else.
*Mexicans, which are taking over the states right now.
>>74249756
>They are just as violent as us.
Agreed.
>>74249751
Most of those illnesses weren't really cured by that point, they simply didn't get effected by them in the same way due to evolutionary reasons that indigenous Americans hadn't developed as they hadn't yet encountered it.
>>74249769
Please differentiate. What does "real" evidence constitute as? Your bullshit anecdote? Because it says on the front of the fucking board that your "lol look around you i don't need to provide proof for my claims" is stupid, and you should feel ashamed of yourself, you fucking retarded bluepilled degenerate filth.
>>74249786
You're the one who moved the goalpost by even bringing him up.
>>74249756
>Yes my point exactly
Then we're in agreement.
>>74249882
look at how cucked this stupid libtard is, does your wife have a few red children there? didnt know cuck sheds had internet access.
>>74249819
a lot of people believe that the two are intrinsically tied together
>>74249751
how would you define when an illness has been "cured"?
>>74249406
Thank you, I've been looking for that clip (or equivalent) for years.
>>74249751
>Only white man think he could improve a system like that.
For 50000000 $ per hospital visit, making him a debt slave.
>>74249949
Check his flag, his country is more ethnically homogeneous than most Western countries today.
>>74250040
and here comes the libtards to tell me how much better the rest of the world is.
>>74250138
I never said that, I simply said that it's improbable he's a cuck.
>>74249995
What? The moral high ground of the past and their current situation? It makes no sense because even if white people were at fault back then for what happened, none of the people alive today has any responsibility on it, and whether or not they were at fault their situation remains unchanged.
>>74250173
all foreigners are cucks you fucking retard.
>>74249949
>EVIDENCE DOESN'T MEAN SHIT IN THE REAL WORLD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Pathetic. Someone would be doing you a favour by blowing your brains out.
>>74250214
>all foreigners are cucks you fucking retard.
Fuck. You got me. I can't believe I fell for the bait so hard.
>>74250214
I think it's past your bed-time.
You're too young to be handling the content of /pol/ methinks.
>>74245429
Why
>>74250220
whats pathetic is the size of your penis, is that why your wife craves dumb red nigger cock?
>>74244700
>America is all of our land
hehehe
>>74250268
Yeah, you're right. Either I got baited to oblivion or he's genuinely an insane underage stormfaggot.
Why don't things like this get banned? It's shitposting. Plain and simple.
>>74250268
you're too liberal to handle the content of /pol/
>>74250290
The answer is kinda embarrassing.
>>74250413
>t. I'm Gay but I'm Too Much of a Faggot to Say it Outright, I'm Just Going to Spew Some "Kinda Embarrassing" Rubbish Because God Forbid I be Forthcoming and Clear in what I Say
>>74250199
>What? The moral high ground of the past and their current situation?
yes. a lot of what holds certain people back today is intellectual masturbation, where they insist on revelling about what they were instead of taking what worked in the past and incorporating it into something new.
>It makes no sense because even if white people were at fault back then for what happened, none of the people alive today has any responsibility on it
true, but, there are still people alive today who thrive on land taken from native americans in one way or another.
>>74244700
vae victus
>>74250539
I'm a faggot with a fetish for a group of people who are slowly disappearing by either mixing with other races or outright dying with heirs, whose few people left tend to be obese and not give a shit about their appearance.
>>74250567
>true, but, there are still people alive today who thrive on land taken from native americans in one way or another.
Sure but it won't be possible to get those lands back, and even if it were, they don't have the expertise to profit from it.
For any given problem there is a solution, for any given solution you first need to admit if it's actually possible or not.
I mean I'm personally scared shitless for the situation in navajo country, that area is extremely dry and the tendency is that it'll get even drier thanks to climate change.
>>74250848
There, much better.
>>74250848
>Sure but it won't be possible to get those lands back, and even if it were, they don't have the expertise to profit from it.
that's true. i don't believe there's very many institutions in which the natives could use to prosper from regained resources.
>>74245308
They're out there. They either are light enough that you mistake them for Arab or dark enough that they look Hispanic. It's a pretty recessive set of genes so any mixing will cover everything. Not even exxagerating, if a German woman and a native pureblood have a kid that kid will be pale with green eyes and dirty blonde at the darkest.
