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First for Gramado
>>74214285
Is there a feeling in the air that things are gonna get better in Brazeeoo or are people still bummed?
>>74213095
>inb4 the K loving illegal bolivian shows up
>>74215287
Other than the lefties butthurt because of Dilma's impeachment everyone is just waiting to see how Temer does as president,but at least i'm feeling positive about it
>>74215533
APENAS
>>74215533
Lots of leftard commies are either atill protesting for direct elections, complete political dissolution or just screaming its a coup.
And even though the political dissolution is in no way happening, the bigger concern is that if we got to have imediate elections,is that Marina( commie disguised as just liberal) would win flawless. ThAts not happening tho
>>74216122
The only reason i don't want new elections right now is precisely because Marina would win
She's not strong enough to be in charge of a country,basically black Dilma on a diet
>>74215442
Deben erigir un >muro a la frontera de Bolivindia
>>74213095
First Mexican post
>>74216357
That's the plan. First fix the internal problems, then build a wall and make Bolivia pay for it
So the same shit happening, only Brazil and Venezuela have important stuff going on.
>>74217614
Why does it seem like every Spanish speaking country in Latin America kinda dislikes Bolivia?
I haven't met any since the ones in Brazil are all in the North so i don't know much except they look like Indios
>>74217832
Because the east of the country is full of communist reverse racist Indio nationalists and because of that, it's a total shithole.
>>74217989
I see,so it's kinda like our Northeastern region then
>>74217832
They come here illegally, act entitled, keep voting lefties because free shit. Basically Mexicans without the qts.
>>74217832
>every Spanish speaking country in Latin America kinda dislikes Bolivia?
They are the Germans of Latin america. Always trying to destroy the continent, it helps they haven't won any war they fought in like germany.
>>74218209
Oh wow,they really are like our northeasterners then
>>74218484
Rallering for marlon brandao
>>74215287
everyone (except petistas) is positive about temer because lula and dilma couldn't even talk our own language properly
temer is a constitutionalist lawyer with several rulings in his favor on the supreme court and a couple of renowned constitutional books to his name
nth for quebec
>>74218979
Temer's books are pretty great,i read them in uni
>>74218088
Less niggers, but yes.
Any #BiondiniMissiles here?
>>74218484
Yeah, except the ones selling clothes, god bless them
>>74217832
>all bolivians are in the north
you haven't been to brás in são paulo in the last 10 years, have you?
the influx of koreans, bolivians and haitians is real
>>74213095
Venezuela has gone full Zimbabwe. They can even afford to print more money
>>74218425
more like they are the gypsies of south america
>>74219412
----------Venezuela--------
This is from about a month ago--things have gotten far worse since then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOQb7Y5QVO8
>>74219358
>you haven't been to brás in são paulo in the last 10 years,have you?
Nah,i'm from SC
How do I retrieve an average south american girlfriend?
>>74219881
that's a man
>>74219412
I hope Venezuela's fall means the death of SA socialism. Now that Dilma and CFK are gone, I want to see what crazy shit will Maduro and Morales do to keep their "revolution" going
>>74219685
the koreans enslave them in sweatshops
>>74219881
>>74219962
Definitely a man
I'll give you a tip on getting a gf here though,be blue eyed and speak english
Money helps too
>>74219962
She is a womanly woman.
>>74219970
that's a great one.
I actually have a $100 trillion dollar note at home that I bought on Ebay a few years ago. They are now worth $50 or more (10x what I paid). I should have bought a truckload of them.
>>74219970
That's not true at all. Here we are in peace dialogs which will make all the Marxist guerrilla commanders instantly senators. Fuck this gay earth
All white
All male cabinet
>>74219627
Whenever i see this i realize how lucky we are impeaching Dilma and her leftist gang from here.
>>74219970
Don't forget about us, white friend.
>>74219962
Is she post-op?
>>74220062
Reminds me of the enslaved gnomes in Silvermoon in WoW
>>74220266
A lot of wealthy people have moved to South America in recent years. I think Chile and Argentina are hot spots.
>>74220610
My city has so many Americans it's ridiculous,in my floor in the apartment building there are 2 American families
Live from Venezuela: Hyperinflation, Murder Capital of the World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKic0mlQo0U
>>74220774
glorious florianopolis
I'd consider moving there if I had gone for a decent degree instead of fucking business
just passing by, to say that Cuba is a fucking shithole and I hate it with my guts. Okay.
>>74220799
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiF_HSZAG5Q
>>74220870
It's not Floripa,it's Balneario Camboriu
Florianopolis is still great tho
Maduro is a thing latin american was needing badly
Our leftist party crashed in part because of horror stories from Venezuelans fleeing the socialist utopia
>>74220774
It's a good time to leave America before it becomes the next Venezuela.
>>74218484
> chimpazinho
>>74221292
>tfw Venezuela took one for the team
I want to visit La Habana before Americans flood it with McDonalds and Starbucks desu senpai
>>74221656
How is that situation in Brazil? Is the socialist party still strong?
I got the impression they still make the majority of the government
What is the current state of Bolivia?
>>74221942
>I got the impression they still make the majority of the government
No,the congress has always had a bigger number of opposition congressmen and senators than pro-government people
Dilma was pretty much alone after the biggest party allied to her's decided to break the alliance and back the impeachment
>>74213095
So I've been considering a trip to Chile/Argentina. Got any things that might be off the beaten path that are worth visiting or doing? I generally enjoy the outdoors and nature more than urban areas, but I'm open to anything neat enough.
Guatemala is at an interesting time.
A comedian was elected president following an impeachment. Last week many roads were blocked until Congress agreed to hear the ppl out on the interests of the nation. I don't know details on that, but it's cool the government is forced to do it's job.
>>74222206
so now the CIA has their puppets running your country instead along with an Israeli being in charge of your bank.
Expect horrible IMF deals
>>74222217
Wew. Close to >>74222222
>>74222450
>>>/X/
>>74222450
Is all of this "CIA puppets" shit coming from that wikileaks thing?
I thought it was funny at first but then i realized you tinfoil dudes were serious
>>74222580
Are you retarded? Even TYT reported the coup and they almost never say any real shit. http://youtube.com/watch?v=GZ2cOLXByq8
Doesn't make Rouseff any less incompetent but they are replacing shit with more shit.
>>74221942
>I got the impression they still make the majority of the government
they had it from 2002-2015, because PMDB was on their side
PMDB is a pragmatic party with no real ideological compass, they just want to be in power so they can steal some money on the side
they have been around since the dictatorship days, they ruled side by side with our right in the 90's, they ruled side by side with our left in the 00's
then the economy went to shit and dilma had the bright idea to try to undermine their participation in the government in favor of lesser, easier to control, just as corrupt parties
PMDB got fed up and saw in the public dissatisfaction caused by the economic crisis and corruption scandals a way to manufacture a political crisis
so they allied themselves with the right and the lesser parties, found room in a legal grey area to base the impeachment proccess, and gathered >66% of votes in congress to put her down temporarily (but realistic she's not coming back)
now temer from PMDB is in power and we are about to take the biggest turn to the right ever since the militaries, which is what the economy is asking
democracy brasilian style, our impeachment functions like a pseudo-parliamentary clause, the president has ample powers if he's doing good but if he fucks up too much he can get impeached in a legal way
it's pretty fucking great, we don't have the luxury of being able to withstand 4 years of a shitty government just in the name of democracy, we are a fucking commodity exporter not the USA
>>74222974
>bringing up TYT
>>74222974
>coup
Now here's the thing these fucks don't get,the people wanted Dilma out,and the process was done entirely under what the Constitution asks,this is not a fucking coup
>>74222450
except Lula got rid of ALL our denbts with the IMF
and it was a colossal fuck up because the IMF offered cheap loans compared to the astronomical rates of our public national debt, which by the way is one of the reasons of our economic crisis
>>74222450
Thats probably the case
Our government is already going to emit bonds that have such a massive interest rates they paid themselves in 2 years
why?
no one knows
They are also going to sell futures in our currency starting at a lower interest rates than the official rates and freezing them for some months
Why?
no one knows, who would invest in this country?
worst part is that its them or literal nigger commies
>>74222203
Evo in power until 2020, lost his bid for reelection
which is good.
>>74222217
the entirety of patagonia
>>74222217
Nothing above Santiago is worth your time, with maybe the only exception being Valle del Elqui.
I'd recommend anything from the VII region downwards, from coast to mountain, but you should avoid the XI region because the indians there have been at war since the 1500s and to this day they keep blocking roads and burning houses.
Recommended places
>Siete Tazas
>Valdivia
>Villarrica
>Puerto Varas
>Chiloé
>Torres del Paine
>Cueva del Milodón
Also orth mentioning that you can can easily cross to Argentina at this part of the country, so visiting Bariloche is recommended.
Two final pieces of advice:
1. Right now the are is full of protests because Red Tide shenanigans, making it less comfy, better to wait till it ends before travelling
2. Try to check for natural disasters before you come in so you won't be caught off guard, and be ready for quakes.
>>74223588
Shit, meant IX region, not XI
Fuck off JIDF. Maduro is based anti-Israel
>>74222450
No country (except for Brazil in recent years) has ever emerged from IMF policies.
It is always one crisis after another and poverty.
>>74222974
>process written and backed by the constitution
>coup
>>74223662
Happy are those who love Israel
>>74223414
Look everyone, it's the Kerchnerista shitposter back again!
>>74223414
>who would invest in this country?
raising interest rates and halting the USA blaming would be a nice first step you silly fuck
or do you think the globalists will bring their money to argentina out of pity? or because patagonia is so nice?
look at south korea and man the fuck up, pic related
>>74223037
yep this anon got it right
>>74222799
http://www.globalresearch.ca/soft-coups-threaten-brazil-venezuela-south-africa/5525142
>>74223886
I sincerily apologise for his nonwhiteness, my burgerclap friend.
Hopefully his kind will be purged once trump wins and macri can finally stop pretending
Trump/Macri presidential formula for the United Continent of America when?
>>74223962
> globalresearch
> posting those anti-white fucks in /pol/ of all places
RevLeft is to the right after the second corner
>>74223886
But i called her a nigger commie
they were as destructive as the government from the 90s
>>74223949
South korea nationalized all its financial institutions and created korean only industries with government subsidies
they do not depend on globalists plus since its such an important strategic location they don't fuck with it too much in case they defect to china
and both times we accepted jew money we ended up with hyperinflation and completely bankrupt
.
>>74223666
portugal is currently doing fine under IMF's thumb, they are turning things around
>>74224356
are you talking about the country that canceled its elections when an anti EU coalition won them?
>>74223962
>Start reading
>Le ignorint votes of 54 gorillion meme
>ebil 1964 coup
>Maduro threatened by a coup
Am i supposed to take this seriously?
>>74224459
was about to ask about that
I am pretty sure Portugal people voted against austerity
Retarded as voting against austerity is, either you respect people's power or just go full dictatorship and stop pretending
>>74224541
These leaders being incompetent and a coup are not mutually exclusive. Maduro is incompetent and probably is facing a coup considering they openly tried to do the same thing numerous times, even as recent as 2014.
>>74224193
That might work in a country with people,willing to work hard like Korea.
>>74224717
Venezuela is filled to the brim with guns of all caliber.
I don't think there will be a cup: that shit is going to be a civil war
>>74224193
South Korea strategy was centered around educating the population. And when I say educating I don't meant indoctrinating them with sociology and leftitst bullshit, I mean actually teaching them math and making them literate. They did not promote an inward economy looking to satisfy the internal market, they sought to compete outwards with manufacturers. Meanwhile all the Latin American left is worried about is goddamn natural resources.
And are you implying South Korea didn't have "globalist jew money"? Foreign investment was key to their development, it's largely what you do with the money rather than who lends it.
>>74224717
Dilma is a criminal. She broke fiscal laws which lead to the recession and obstruct justice trying to bail Lula out of investigations. All of it was recorded. Now fuck off.
>Argentine crisis just as bad, perhaps worse than Venezuelan
>nobody talks about it because muh Macri
>>74224193
the main difference between south korea and brazil/argentina is they used the money from high interest rates to create a decent education system, roughing it out for a while, so they could escape the middle income trap
or do you think national industries become competitive globally just by pumping money in them? unless you are the U.S.A. where every indian and chinese miracle genius emigrates to, you have no chance
korean companies were pathethic in the 90's, only now they are exporting engineers to several countries to oversee their chaebol investments
>>74225286
>>Argentine crisis just as bad, perhaps worse than Venezuelan
Is Argentina going through 2000% yearly inflation? 60 reported murders per 100k inhabitants?
>>74223662
No, he isn't.
>>74224459
>>74224606
are you neglecting the fact that portugal was about to go full greece? at least they have stabilized now, it really is for the better
half of my family are portuguese peasants living in the mountains and even they think the current government is treading the right steps, as long as they get to butcher and eat a pig every sunday they'll be happy
>>74225095
>>74225306
Dude, Argentina's education used to be on par with Europe and yet we had crisis after crisis caused by countries backed by jews and americans.
The only president who really tried was peron and he was couped 2.5 times
>>74225516
40% "official yearly inflation" but its like 70% in reality
the crisis magnified as the kirchners didnt invest in oil or gas of which Argentina has tons so we have to import , given we are in recession this added like 15 billion dollars to the fiscal deficit. When the importation started the inflation ramped up
but prices here have no correlation with anything they are made up , they have been going up since i was born even in between 2003 and 7 when we had a huge trade superplus and the dollar was stable at 3 peso to 1 dollar
>>74223662
>>74224717
it's not a coup
the venezuelan economy has been struggling ever since maduro took charge in 2013, so as of 2016 their congress is super majority opposition
the congress passed a law to bring down maduro from power but their BOLIVARIAN supreme court said it was against their BOLIVARIAN constitution
they are completely cucked, the reason their country is going to shit is because there's no way for the congress to remove caligula and there's no way for caligula to rule the country with majority opposition
>>74225897
this is the best possible time to be an importer of oil, don't know what the fuck you're on about.
>>74225598
Oy choripán
>>74225286
>The eternal bolita
Oh boy, here we go
>>74225897
>the crisis magnified as the kirchners didnt invest in oil or gas
o yes forgot, all the private groups who bought all companies in the 90s breached their contracts and kept raising the prices without investing which meant they were on their last drops of oil
the president nationalized YPF oil company for 5 bilion in bonds without conducting any investigation nor prosecuting them for contract breaching, they were 100% guilty
She on top of that conceded the biggest oil reserve in the country for 50 years to chevron, they don't even have to pay taxes after 5 years, what a great deal for the country
fucking niggers
>>74225843
>are you neglecting the fact that portugal was about to go full greece? at least they have stabilized now, it really is for the better
they were going to go agains the people that put them in the situation they are in?
Those evil bastards
>>74226209
>Have literally no money
>Have to pay money in dollars we wouldn't otherwise
its not just oil, its also gas
>>74224717
maduro is a failed bus driver
he's worse than incompetent
>>74225897
>Dude, Argentina's education used to be on par with Europe
I don't know, but if it was anything like ours, ours used to be super good but limited to a small percentage of the population
either way we are both in the middle income trap my friend and there's no easy way out, going full neoliberal or national development won't work we have all been there already
lula planned to use the money from our oil reserves exclusively to fund the education system put OPEC fucked that plan in the ass, our oil is barely viable anymore
>>74226599
if you think the problem of our education is lack of money you're yet another useful idiot.
Professors of public universities earn absurd wages, more than 25 thousand after some years thanks to bonuses. They get to travel the world, and so do students, even undergrad ones. All with tax money. 40% of students in many universities are paid just to attend classes the classes, that's part of PROUNI. They are paid half minimum wage but still a huge goddamn drain, billions thrown at these people for little responsability in return. The other 60% are rich enough to use a private university, but they prefer to drain the public system.
Meanwhile HS education hasn't improved at all in more than a decade. I'd argue that it has deteriorated thanks to ENEM, which, in the case of math, 80% of the questions come from middle school content.
>>74226599
>I don't know, but if it was anything like ours, ours used to be super good but limited to a small percentage of the population
Our education system was 100% free without any kind of restriction and people looked down private schools and always were against them except for the high society ones. From the 90s onward everything got buttfucked
>either way we are both in the middle income trap my friend and there's no easy way out, going full neoliberal or national development won't work we have all been there already
Idk my country needs a coup done by nationalistic armed forces and a good purge of all immigrants and the same cunts who have been in power for the last 70 years
>lula planned to use the money from our oil reserves exclusively to fund the education system put OPEC fucked that plan in the ass, our oil is barely viable anymore
Cristina and his cronnies pocketed all oil money, one of them is on trial for that. Regardless no one here knows anything about anything. The media does
>>74227157
>Professors of public universities earn absurd wages, more than 25 thousand after some years thanks to bonuses. They get to travel the world, and so do students, even undergrad ones. All with tax money. 40% of students in many universities are paid just to attend classes the classes, that's part of PROUNI.
Here professors starve , well they have money cause they exercise their profession. Cristina gave subsidies to niggers who assist to tertiary education, non of them even pass 1 exam , they only hang there to get their money and make normal students attend to private universities to avoid them
why the brazilians say tha Peru doesn´t matter, ifyou stole us a big part of our amazonia.
>>74226328
>they were going to go agains the people that put them in the situation they are in?
portugal's crisis was 50% them being dumb, irresponsible and corrupt with money like all latin people
and 50% unjustified collateral damage from the euro crisis, which I admit was the work of kikes
either way, what were they gonna do? cry because it was so unfair? austerity had to be put in place
I'm glad the kikes at IMF can seize a nation's democracy temporariliy if the people is dumb enough to vote for momentary satisfaction in exchange of long term stability, I wish they were still around here in Brazil, Dilma would probably never have been reelected
>>74227450
You meant they were forced to buy Germany's goods on gunpoint to the point they drained all their reserves meanwhile German/British/French banks bought all their debt and when the economy crashed found themselves in between a sword and the wall?
in the 90s the exact same thing happened here, dumb was the people who thought it would last forever and didn't even bother to think
criminals who should be tortured to death were the rulers who don't even represent Portugal as they decided to nullify the elections they lost
>I'm glad the kikes at IMF can seize a nation's democracy temporariliy if the people is dumb enough to vote for momentary satisfaction in exchange of long term stability,
what does the IMF have to do with the European union?
>>74227386
you guys live hidden in the mountains. Bandeirantes actually explored the freaking amazon forest.
Why doesn't uruguay merge with argentina?
They're practically the same
>>74227808
over my dead body, son
>>74227808
They were our clay
>>74227655
>You meant they were forced to buy Germany's goods on gunpoint to the point
No they weren't. Are you forced to buy foreign goods at gunpoint? Like your laptop, cellphone, operating system or whichever software/device you own? You buy them because you want it, because Argentinian products are dogshit. Argentinian products could have terrible qualify but still stay afloat and sell to the poorer people, by reducing the costs and prices, but labor laws and high taxes make that completely unfeasible.
>>74228340
>Join European union
>no trade restrictions
>100% free market
>what are you going to buy
>Germany top notch and cheap products
>or expensive mediocre portugal goods?
>keep in mind the government can do fuck all to help their own industry which crashed and burned
> You buy them because you want it,
of course people are dumb but the government couldn't do shit about it
> Argentinian products are dogshit. Argentinian products could have terrible qualify but still stay afloat and sell to the poorer people, by reducing the costs and prices, but labor laws and high taxes make that completely unfeasible.
Argetnina goods were so good people are bitching that old stuff was 100 times bette than whatever gets imported to China
Thats non issue well was
In the 70s and 90s we got flooded with foreign shit that was half the cost of our, half of the country went bank rupt during those days
>, but labor laws and high taxes make that completely unfeasible.
>you could be competitive if your citizens had south east asia tier of life quality
Of course we should all be slaves
>Make better goods
of course, if you really try you can easily comepte with Europe China the US ,etc!
and the 3 governments that attempted to industrialize the country ended up in coups
>>74227157
I've graduated from Unicamp my friend, I know how wasteful the system is. The problem with brazilian education is multifaceted:
1. The money is poorly distributed: the top of the pyramid (universities) get disproportionally more money than the rest of the system, because taxes go mostly to the federal government, then to the states, and at last the municipalities.
2. The money is poorly managed: everybody knows the government is slow and wasteful with it's resources. Money is wasted on programs that serve as reelection platforms and nothing else. Ciencias sem Fronteiras for undergrads is the biggest waste of money I have ever seen. First of all, the undergrad curriculum is the same everywhere, it's basic shit. Second, they were sending people that couldn't even speak the language of their countries. Third, I know people that literally got to travel through all of Europe without attending a single class for an entire semester, all on taxpayer money.
3. We need more money: even if administration was effective, reality is Brazil is huge, and even top universities are falling apart. We would also need to triple the salary of a school teacher so it becomes an attractive career for actually motivated people. That I think is the biggest problem, infrastructure so we get more technical schools with good programs and wages of elementary-high education.
4. Brazilians are monkey people: brazilian students rank on the top of the most undisciplined students worldwide. Not paying attention, being disrespectful, skipping school, bringing the cellphone to class. I remember a study done many years ago: with a 5 hour school day, japanese students would waste approximately 0,5 hours, compared to brazilians wasting 3,5 hours. Brazilian society also gives no prestige to people who study.
I don't think university wages are that big of a deal though (retirement pensions are), they pay on par with the positions they could achieve on the private sector.
>>74227808
brazilian buffer zone
>>74228233
and you couldn't keep it
it's time to let go
>>74228822
more like Britain's buffer zone amirite?
>>74228724
>of course people are dumb
so you're using a fully Argentinian laptop/smartphone right now to help your national industry?
>>74228762
Yeah you're alright. I'm just saying the royalties from Petrobras going to education wouldn't really change much.
>>74228724
portugal actually got the good end of stick on that, they don't have to try so hard to become a industrialized nation as small as they are anymore, they are transitioning to become a tourism focused country same way as croatia, it's all about that quality of life
I expect them to become the florida of the european union anytime now, with flocks of old rich people going there to retire and live with the beautiful scenery and good food, they just have to ramp up the investments in public health and they'll be set
>>74222217
Buy a car in Santiago de Chile(what I did) and do a roadtrip through Patagonia. Bring camping gear because it's more expensive there(never buy from Doite, Chilean Chinese shit). Buy or pirate 'Trekking in the Patagonian Andes' by Lonely Planet. Great hiking guide with maps of treks. Visit Reserva National Cerro Castillo, very few people and beautiful. I also did not see anyone for three days in Hornopiren. Buy an annual pass(paso anual) from CONAF so you can visit all national parks for free. Also, the northwest of Argentina is really beautifull such as the Quebrada de Cafayate and Purmamarca.
>>74229102
>so you're using a fully Argentinian laptop/smartphone right now to help your national industry?
Are you trying to avoid the conversation by attacking me?
Nothing gets produced here
>>74229171
kek
>Its a good thing that a country produces fuck all
>they got it better because they can dedicate their entire lives to clean toilets in their country
Are they a caribbean shithole now?
how high is their unemployment rate? 50%?
How does even tourism pay for all the expensive stuff a country needs?
Look how well Venezuela ended up for not diversifying their economy
>>74229022
oh yes, the eternal anglo
>"The ignorant and barbaric people of Paraguay believe that it is under the protection of the most illustrious of the governments (...) and only with foreign intervention, or a war, they will be relieved from their error".
>Edward Thornton to Lord Russell. Asunción, September 6th, 1864.
>"... Worst than Abyssinia, and López (is) worst than King Tewodros II. The extinction (of Paraguay) as a nation will be benefit, to all the world".
>Edward Thornton to Charles Washburn.
>>74229509
>believe that it is under the protection of the most illustrious of the governments
What did he mean by this?
>>74229442
>Are you trying to avoid the conversation by attacking me?
You accused Portuguese people of being dumb for buying quality foreign products or cheaper foreign products. So I must only assume you don't do those things.
Right?
>>74229702
>he still tries
You aren't to bright aren't you?
All people from the world is stupid otherwise the traitors among the ruling class and jews would have been exterminated long ago
>>74229442
let's be real dude, both our countries are struggle to compete on the global stage, the best we can do is export commoditties and that's because we have a lot of land, what chances does portugal even have?
their unemployment rate is around 10% I think, but that's mostly because the male population migrates temporarily to france and germany to work in construction and other jobs for half of the year, like all other peripheric countries in the EU, a lot of the money comes in like that too
living like that is a double edged sword really, on one hand you are completely dependent on other countries, on the other hand you get to keep a beautiful pristine homogenous country, no pollution, no islamic invasion
anyway they have been treading this path since 1703 - methuen treaty
>>74229601
he meant solano brainwashed the paraguayans
Help us liberate Puerto Rico from the feds. How can we be a free country. We wish to trade with our Latin bros but everyone here's like "I'm moving to FL to be a slave and get the new ipad" Also fuck USA and the federal banks.
>>74230083
>let's be real dude, both our countries are struggle to compete on the global stage, the best we can do is export commoditties and that's because we have a lot of land, what chances does portugal even have?
Idk the country is like 1k years old,? im sure they can think about something
i just checked 12% and 30% in the youth which means 20-25% and 50%+
>living like that is a double edged sword really, on one hand you are completely dependent on other countries, on the other hand you get to keep a beautiful pristine homogenous country, no pollution, no islamic invasion
All countries could keep it if they kicked immigrants out by law
No need to make their own people be professional slaves
>he meant solano brainwashed the paraguayans
But like, the brits gave Paraguay the same treatment Poland got in WW2?
OTP
>>74230804
They almost went to war against each other
what the fuck are you saying?
>>74230930
>They almost went to war against each other
You know nothing about true love.
>>74231205
You know nothing about Chilean and Argentinean history
>>74219627
Future of Europe
>>74219970
Already on the table: he's going to imprison the factory operators he already robbed blind, for failing to keep production running with no sources of revenue.
And of course the properties will be seized, which was probably the entire goal in the first place. The government owns absolutely everything and can then hand-pick people for prosperity and freedom of choice.
>>74230499
>Idk the country is like 1k years old,? im sure they can think about something
They have nothing. Their natural resources is negligible. Their big bet was wine, and it didn't pay off. In fact, they spent an entire century paying off trade deficits. All the gold shipped from Brazil to Portugal was sent straight to the British Empire. They are really just another cog in the EU engine, they manufacture lots of stuff, but it's all parts of other shit. A tourism shift is a positive turn, much better than parts of eastern europe. All in all Portugal would really be insignificant without the EU, little power to trade or attract investments. Like it or not, they received good money for infrastructure projects, and quality of life increased, so they are subject to EU's rule.
>which means 20-25% and 50%+
I don't think the data is manipulated at all. Data from the same source for Spain and Greece is much worse. Like I said, there IS a strong temporary migration movement though.
>But like, the brits gave Paraguay the same treatment Poland got in WW2?
More like they probably gave the push for Solano to declare the war and then stabbed him in the back.
>>74231264
>>74231844
So all that gold is in America now. France and the U.K emptied their gold reserves to pay us
>>74231844
>They have nothing. Their natural resources is negligible. Their big bet was wine, and it didn't pay off. In fact, they spent an entire century paying off trade deficits. All the gold shipped from Brazil to Portugal was sent straight to the British Empire. They are really just another cog in the EU engine, they manufacture lots of stuff, but it's all parts of other shit. A tourism shift is a positive turn, much better than parts of eastern europe. All in all Portugal would really be insignificant without the EU, little power to trade or attract investments. Like it or not, they received good money for infrastructure projects, and quality of life increased, so they are subject to EU's rule.
Even then, you are literally suggesting they should give up on being a sovereign country. They could at least produce stuff for themselves
>I don't think the data is manipulated at all.
of course, countries in crisis never lie, specially a manufactured global crisis in a time computers can ruin a economy in micro seconds
>More like they probably gave the push for Solano to declare the war and then stabbed him in the back.
So the Poland treatment
>>74231846
That happened almost 180 years before videla and Pinochet
since then Chile and Argentina have been in constant friction which was encouraged mainly by Britain
Seriously, sotp posting
>>74232093
>March 2017
>Cabinet member Ron Paul audits Fort Knox
>Turns out to have fuckall inside
>Nobody even knows where the world's gold is at
>Alt-right support intensifies
>>74232617
They've already opened the vault before and it had gold in it
>>74232093
Yep, and right now that money is going to end up in China.
>>74232529
They signed up for EU m8, a big part of their sovereignty was stripped right off and they knew it. Beats being fucking Albania.
If anything Eurostat would be putting out fake high unemployment numbers, not low, so they could say "oy vey the austerity measures are not working we need MORE austerity measures".
>>74233234
>They signed up for EU m8,
>Join us or we block the crap out of you to the point you have to join us
>o-ok
>If anything Eurostat would be putting out fake high unemployment numbers
Thats like the most idiotic shit i've read
>Austerity won't get people fired, won't cause recession
>Trust me
>Unemployment numbers are up the roof
>>74232529
Despiden gente, ajustan servicios publicos que todos usamos, prostituyen nuestra soberania quitando impuestos a mineras extranjeras de grueso calibre, aumenta la delincuencia. Ah, pero claro, Macri genera empleo de """"""""""""""""""""""""calidad""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Estan asesinando a la Argentina.
¿Por que Macri no exime a las pymes de pagar un porcentaje del sistema impositivo a cambio de contratar jovenes para que puedan aprender un oficio y tener un futuro en vez de subsidiar a una multinacional como Mc Donald's?
Macri es un lacayo del imperio.
>>74233873
si tan solo Macri se subiera a la curva de laffer, podría volver Argentina a la grandeza, pero no, no le puedes exigir mucho a un social-demócrata que se cree republicano. Todos nosotros estamos en el mismo tren, a toda velocidad y sin frenos. Sudamerica esta jodida
>>74234381
>social-demócrata
Social democrata en que sentido?
