Could anyone explain me what's with all the Donald Trump hype? I know he isn't Hillary and all that, but why would anyone would consider a good thing to vote a government crony who made a fortune out of eminent domain abuse? He's literally all the establishment stands for, except he is part of the corporate establishment, not the governmental one. Trump is a different flavor of shit, noticeably less stinky and without traces of blood, but still shit.
All his appeal is reduced to identity politics, and every small group of Trump supporters is merely projecting theirs on whatever generalized inanity Trump says. Traditionalists, paleoconservatives, ethnonationalists and many other groups they all believe Trump is gonna force onto the population whatever identity politics policies they all believe in, even though they're all incompatible to a large extent. I understand Trump may be perceived as the less harmful option, but why does most people at /pol/ get so mad when they are remembered all the above? Where has gone all the criticism? Don't you people realize that Trump is just spouting whatever that sounds good to the great part of the public that is tired of the PC censorship without much consistency?
Legit Trump criticism thread?
>>74169134
>notably less stinky
So the better option then. Thanks for agreeing.
>>74169134
Because he makes SJWs chimp-out. That's my reason, fuck libshits, the only good one is a dead one.
>>74169134
He is the conduit through which all meme magic flows. He's a walking ley line.
>>74169134
It's cute that you think Hillary isn't a corporate shill. She might even be WORSE than The Don there.
>>74169134
Also considering how he's a master salesman, it's difficult to believe his message.
The one thing I cane take from Bernie is his consistency. Commie's been spouting the same stuff for decades
>>74170694
You are illiterate, my extra-chromosomed friend.
>>74171056
Bernie really is the most earnest, and also the most deluded.
>>74169902
You would think an intelligent person would be able to come up with a stronger argument than, "I just want to murder people who disagree with me, is that really wrong?" But, this is 4chan.
>>74169902
"I'm angry, so I'm voting Trump!"
This is all I have seen over the last few months.
Hillary would go full merkel and fuck up our country. Trump Leans more towards isolationism which is what our country needs right now. The monkey in the white house is pushing hard to let shitskins into our country.
>>74169134
> build wall
> deport shitskins
> use business acumen to make better deals with garbage, brown people nations
> bring jobs back to America
> generate infinite liberal tears
> troll the fuck out of media
Gee, I wonder why /pol/ likes him so much?
>>74169134
Globalists and SJWs hate his guts, and they've been pretty frantic to stop him. That's a promising sign.
>>74171277
>bring jobs back to America
Do you believe bringing back factory jobs from China will help America?
>>74169134
He's anti-PC and pissed a lot of people off. Naturally, /pol/ respects that.
>implying /pol/ has a political stance beyond this
>>74171519
Yes
lefties think that if you're rich and an entrepreneur that means you're evil corporate pig
>>74169134
Trump in the 90's would be considered a moderate democrat. No one is arguing this.
The democratic left has moved so far left in the past 10 years that now we have an admitted socialist/communist running for president. Hillary just promises more of what Obama has done for the past 8 years, just now with gun control, feminism, socialism, and *ism of the week to go around.
Since the goalposts have moved so much, even a moderate dem / populist like Trump is firmly in Republican territory now. Trump admittedly isn't perfect, but a better question is why Hillary is even a serious contender is something few people have been asking. The email thing is just icing on the cake of how bizarre this is, anyone else would be in court for possible treason by now.
Yeah, his casino's went bankrupt a few times, but compared to the slime oozing out of Hillary, or the insane communism preached by Sanders, Trump is the only comparatively sane choice. America really needs a Kennedy type figure that has a constitutional restoration agenda, but can play the political game enough to actually get the presidents chair. I'm not sure the political oligarchy would ever let it happen, though.
>>74169902
This desu senpai
>>74169134
>>74171586
Pretty much. Also
>WALL
>>74171799
This×1000
>>74171799
I've got a real kick about how Mexico has been threatening war if Trump actually builds the wall, they really don't want to have to actually deal with poor people instead of sending them to the USA.
>choose one
>non-member of the Bilderberg group and round table
>member of the Bilderberg group and round table
Give me that corporate establishment, family.
>>74171799
This.
"Republican'ts" still trying to call themselves Republican and "Democraps" still trying to call themselves Democrat is a fucking meme, in and of itself.
>>74171979
>Mexico has been threatening war if Trump actually builds the wall,
Source for this?
>>74169134
>Slimy businessman
>Honest to god criminal with dozens of dead Americans to her name
It's not a hard decision.
>>74169134
But Bernie still has a chance to save America XD
>>74171148
he definitely put everything he had into that post huh
>Be product of greatest generation
>Watch America grow strong and prosperous
>Be 15
>Great man tells us we are going to the moon
>America is Great
>Great man tells me about secret parties and secret plans
>Cant be true, America is Great
>Be 17
>Watch Great Man die
>Stunned
>Brush it off, must be a Great man
>- secret societies
>Turn 1 million into many millions
>America goes to war where it isn't wanted
>- secret oaths
>Become influential with the media
>Turn millions into billions
>America creates never ending war
>- secret proceedings
>Be old
>America is dying, what was Great is now "Great"™
>Fuck Globalists
>Time to finish what a Great man started
>Have had a Great life
>- secret societies
>Have a Great family
>- secret oaths
>Doing this for you America
>- secret proceedings
>Wont live to see America Great Again, expect to be JFK'ed
>Doesnt matter
>Deadman switch will reveal all
>"I love you America"
>>74169134
>wants to audit fed
>wants to scrap obummercare
>not controlled by any special interests
>2nd amendment supporter
>wants to improve relations with Russia
>wants to lower taxes across the board
>doesn't support unnecessary foreign war
>wants to FINALLY get a handle on illegal immigration
>has already begun to end politically correct bullshit
What was your criticism again? He's somehow "corporate establishment" despite running a self-funded campaign?
>>74172303
xD i no rite bernbrother!!`11 run those rich job-creatin jerkz out the cuntry and give 15/hr to all th underpayd hrd wrking americans!!!!@@ yes we can! xD
Because Trump's only viable opponent is a career criminal and the most crooked living politician in America. With the possible exception of her husband.
>>74169134
hillbag is going to have another stroke.
live on national TV.
at which time she will also fall down, and break her hip.
Huma will have to go back to carlos danger and he will benis whip her.
>>74172184
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-05-15/mexican-president-warns-war-if-gringo-trump-wins-white-house
Yeah, I know, it's Zero Hedge and take what you read there with a grain of salt; but it just shows how ruffled Mexico is about even the idea of their cash tap being turned off.
The thing is, Donald Trump as we know him now is possibly the most calculated and prefabricated political persona of our time.
Trump supporters like to attack Clinton on her flip-flopping positions, but do not themselves realize that Trump is just as bad or even worse.
>>74172694
They all flip-flop, but it takes a special kind of evil to co-orchestrate the Arab Spring for the IMF.
>>74171148
>>74169134
white man or serial killer , tough choice.
>>74169134
Republicans have been wanting a wall since George W. Bush. Every person we elect into office doesn't do even try to make one. By gawd we're going to get that fucking wall whether or not it's beneficial or not.
To understand the phenomena of Trump, imagine democrats voting for Sanders, and he gets into office. Let's say he promises to get universal healthcare and to break up the big banks. Now imagine he doesn't do any of that. Imagine he doesn't even try to do anything. Doesn't sign any bills. Sleeps in until 1pm, just sits around doing nothing.
That's what's been happening to the Republican party since probably even before GWB. And at this point, Republicans don't care what'll happen. All they care is that Trump is 5 million megatons worth of TNT and is about to blow up the Republican party
>>74172462
Most people don't know any of his policies beyond the Wall. They turn on TV or log into SM and see people screaming RACIST! SEXIST! FASCIST! ORANGE MEANIE-PANTS!
>>74172458
So beautiful, what a great man.
>>74171081
>>74171127
>>74171226
>>74171519
Hillary go home
>>74172458
You might be closer to the truth than you think. Only thing is, if they pull a JFK, we'll see WW III not long after, IMO
>>74171799
Exactly.
I can understand not liking Donald personally as a human being but it does baffle me people put Hillary on a pedestal like she is more morally right.
Sanders I understand why people like him but he comes off as too unrealistic IMO, his ideas.
>>74172545
Wait, she had a stroke? Where the fuck was I? That explains all those stupid "stroke-chan" posts I guess
>>74169134
>Could anyone explain me what's with all the Hillary Clinton hype? I know she isn't Donald and all that, but why would anyone would consider a good thing to vote a lying panderer who made a fortune out of public speaking bribes? She's literally all the establishment stands for, and she is part of the establishment, not the public. Clinton is a different flavor of shit, noticeably stinky and with traces of blood, and very shit.
>All her appeal is reduced to identity politics, and every obnoxious group of Clinton supporters is merely projecting theirs on whatever generalized inanity Clinton says. Feminists, revolutionaries, open-borders communists and many other groups they all believe Clinton is gonna force onto the population whatever identity politics policies they all believe in, even though they're all incompatible to a large extent. I understand Clinton may be perceived as the less harmful option, but why does most people at /reddit/ get so mad when they are remembered all the above? Where has gone all the criticism? Don't you people realize that Clinton is just spouting whatever that sounds good to the great part of the public that loves the PC censorship without much consistency?
>Legit Trump love thread?
>>74173220
THIS
shills are in for a hard time this year I think they will need some new tricks.
>>74173027
I actually think Bernie is ahead of his time by about 25-50 years, many of his ideas are morally sound, but economically not something we can sustain at the moment.
>>74172855
>look, a person who won't lower his expectations just because he's on 4chan!
>must be a kike
>>74169134
Hate him all you like.
Your vote doesn't count.
I'm voting for him because he's not Killary Cunton. I'll dig my own eyes out with a cement trowel before I vote for that multi national, war hawk, globalist thief.
>>74171799
it's funny that you say this, cause actual knowledgable people say the exact opposite: http://www.civilpolitics.org/content/mann-ornstein-its-even-worse-it-looks/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogPCxycgE80
>>74169134
The one thing Trump seems to be consistent about are his slightly isolationist tendencies and that he genuinely wants to stop America to waste a shitton of money on unnecessary wars. That's my main reason why I hope Trump wins. With Trump, there is at least a chance he will destroy ISIS and then leave Assad alone and let Russia, Iran and Syria take care of the Sunni extremists. With Hillary, she is guaranteed to topple Assad, install a Sunni regime in Syria and that will be the end of Europe as we know it.
It seriously blows my mind how many Europeans have such a strong anti-Trump sentiment. It must either be out of stupidity / ignorance or out of a genuine wish for the self-destruction of their nation.
>>74174031
>Book about GOP establishment and its faults
>Noam Chomsky
Compelling
>>74171148
>I just want to murder people who disagree with me, is that really wrong?
That's certainly why we hate the SJW's. Notice how we're not the ones pussyrioting to get the people we disagree with fired, blacklisted, deplatformed, and charged with a hate crime. :^)
>>74173220
I think it'd be interesting to see how susceptible these PC groups are to active manipulation, You just need to convince them that 'moderate' policies that help society, would open up the door for tran-species-gender-queer-demikin-zoophilia, or whatever other SJW cause of the week would be. May as well have them do something useful.
>>74173765
>>74174316
From what I understand the news there is the same as the MSM here. It's a lot easier to believe the Donald Strawman when they don't search out an opposing view.
>>74174316
>It seriously blows my mind how many Europeans have such a strong anti-Trump sentiment
Because Heute Show and Johnny Depp tell them to. And general pussification, so Trump seems too "extreme". It's not really that they are deeper thinkers and demand more complex ideas and profound information.
>>74172682
Hahahah shortest. War. Ever.
They wouldn't make it past tucson. Hell maybe the southern az rednecks would have them stopped cold before they could get out of douglas.
>>74174316
>he genuinely wants to stop America to waste a shitton of money on unnecessary wars
Don't know about the wars, but Trump has called out for higher military spending during some recent interview. BBC or NBC I think.
>>74174031
I've only skimmed your link, but I would argue that the political landscape has changed significantly in the past four years since that book was written. Yes partizanship and party polarization IS an issue (I remember when the Republicans filibustered things left and right during Obama's 1st term, it was complete nonsense), but to call the dems "centrist protectors of status quo government" is laughable, when these same 'protectors' champion reforms that go against core american culture.
A simple example is again the SJW movement, many people with friends in SJW groups, even tangentially, risk social suicide if you dare to go against 'acceptable' values.
I think someone else posted here, or last night on another thread; Both parties are shadows of what they once were, and likely neither will survive the coming election. This is quite possible.
>>74169134
Always vote for the side the media shills against the hardest.
>>74174316>>74174949
If Trump does win, I really hope that surge of nationalism comes over to Deutschland as well, you guys need it more then we do, especially if Brexit happens and the EU disintegrates.
>>74169134
>He's literally all the establishment stands for,
he said he wants to tear down the FED and thats enough for me even if he didn't mean it which I suspect is the case
also his lulz will be epic because of existing catch phrases
want him to fire a lot of people in washington
>>74169134
>Correct The Record will invest more than $1 million into Barrier Breakers 2016 activities, including the more than tripling of its digital operation to engage in online messaging both for Secretary Clinton and to push back against attackers on social media platforms...
>http://correctrecord.org/barrier-breakers-2016-a-project-of-correct-the-record/
Only giving you a nickle for this one, as I've seen that same copypasta at least 3 times already.
>>74174316
>It seriously blows my mind how many Europeans have such a strong anti-Trump sentiment
Cause they don't bother researching about the US presidential candidates, they don't bother actually learning about it. They just hear a few vague comments from clinically retarded people such as Jennifer Lawrence or the Muslim mayor of London, they hear some random person in the media call him a racist, xenophobe, sexist, etc etc and that's literally all it takes for them to hate him. They don't bother researching to see what makes him racist or sexist, they just immediately assume it's the truth and hate him for the rest of time.
>>74175212
Higher military spending (investing in the military) isn't a bad thing; it's the primary job of the federal govt. The problems are the endless wars and futile/fruitless nation building.
That's what Trump is talking about and that's what Americans care about.
>>74172888
Fucking this. The tea party worked hard and got a lot of their people into office and nothing happened. Some of them like Rubio even became best friends with Republican establishment types.
>>74169134
Issues Trump is most concerned about and most likely to have enacted in his first year (ie: worst case scenario):
>Adopt a more isolationist military policy.
>End cold war era military policies.
>Build a wall and deport illegals.
>Halt mudslime immigration.
>Renegotiate NAFTA and other weak trade deals.
>Balance trade deficit.
Less likely, but a cool bonus if he gets these done:
>End drug war, leaving enforcement to states.
>Audit the fed.
>balance the budget.
>renegotiate debt obligations and/or pay it down.
>repeal and/or end EPA bullshit over industry.
>reign in BLM.
>simplify taxes and reduce tax burden.
>work toward better relations with Russia.
All of the first section are ridiculously important to have done and accomplished; these are what I believe he genuinely wants to fix first, he's been talking about these issues for the better part of a decade too, so believe him. This is why he's popular, and these are the issues he most obviously cares about. The second section is just a bonus if he actually follows through on these secondary talking points he has made over the election.
>>74174853
>the MSM
Mazdaspeed Miata?
>>74175212
More money to the niggers who actually serve the nation.
Less money to the niggers who serve burgers just to qualify for bennies, or as college hypesters like to call them, "Bernies."
