How can young people in the West be convinced to marry and have children?
Import Asian women that will be trained to hate feminism before entering the country.
Problem solved.
I don't think they need it. They just have underage sex in high school, get the girl preggers and end up getting married that way.
That's easy, make it economically possible, stop stigmatizing it in every form of media, encourage women to stop being absolute sluts and to actually settle down before they hit that wall at 30's and uhh....
Well that's just too hard! Time to get million Ahmullas and Bihmillas!
>>74155927
By banning anime
>>74155927
Legalize anime.
Get rid of no-fault divorce, yuge overhaul of the court system, and women must start acting like women again and not dudes with vaginas.
Basically, it's impossible.
>>74156061
I would kill myself if this future became a reality.
>>74155927
It really is easier for Japan, for they still hold true to important conservative values.
Too bad the economy is in a rut and the absolute-must of having a higher education and then going to work takes too much away from women (and men).
But at least it is something that can be fixed by just having a healthier economy, a state where it is viable for a family to be sustained while only one of the parents has to work.
>>74155927
I don't want to get married. I gain nothing from marrying someone and I can give a rats ass if society gets destroyed by it. I rather have society be destroyed than have some bitch completely destroy me.
Marriage isn't a necessity. The commitment between you and your other half should be the children you have together. They should be your insetive to remain a couple.
>>74156442
Marriage is the bond that keeps it together, both legally and culturally. It's more than just children.
Well, I guess not these days.
>>74155927
MAKE WAIFUS GREAT AGAIN
>>74155927
Support traditional familie values in media, culture and politics. So basically exactly the opposite of what currently happens and this is obviously by design or by idiocy.
>>74155927
If I get married and have children, I would have less time to spend with 2D. I could never live like that, so no thanks.
>>74156061
Bruh, this
>>74156087
[Image of a person who is sexually curious]
>>74155927
Never going to happen. There is no incentive for the guy at all.
>>74155927
Seduce a rich woman
become a house husband
>>74156505
I'm saying having children SHOULD be the bond that keeps people together, but people are so fickle that rarely happens anymore. Marriage is only beneficial from a tax perspective.
>>74156992
It's useful in a variety of situations.
For example, potential suitors will quickly see your status as a married person and steer away.
Sure, you could just replace it with some kind of a similar bond thing but it would be really redundant.
>>74157085
>potential suitors will quickly see your status as a married person and steer away.
It should be the responsibility of the person who's married to deny themselves of other potential partners, but like I said, people are so romantically fickle it just never happens
>>74156867
>>74156867
Let the non-perma-virgins talk Schlomo.
>>74155927
Danna wa ga kitai is honestly a 10/10 anime for a propaganda piece.
>>74157231
Mental fortitude is a trait that's not really cared about today, especially in women.
>>74155927
stop jacking off to anime your loser fucks, get a fucking job maybe?
when all the old people finally die off and give up the jobs that can afford them
maybe have marriage make more economic sense and doesn't end as horribly for the one getting taken to the cleaners
But it's much easier to outsource and import migrants/refugees on the cheap to keep the economy hopping and work force competitive, good goyims. You didn't need to own a house anyway.
>>74157382
LOL JUST BEE LIKE YOURSELF BROO XDDDDDD
>>74157381
I know senpai I agreed with ya in my previous post.
It's a question of changing the mind set and morals of an entire generation, which is impossible
>>74155927
Don't make it such a giant goddamn risk if you're even moderately financially successful and don't stigmatize it in the media.
>>74157406
It's actually NOT easier, it costs more and you end up with HUGE complications.
It's just more comfortable for the people in power to do - you don't have to make any actual changes!
>>74155927
Ministry of public welfare gets a matchmaking department.
>>74157453
HAY LADIES CHECK OUT ALL MY ANIMES XDDDDD
>>74157382
No thanks, I'm good senpai.
>>74157455
Yeah and I agree with you...!
Admit that human procreation is the past and start investing heavily in human cloning.
>>74155927
Cut off their access to social media
Seriously, all the other women I know were perfectly sane before joining facebook, tumblr and youtube. Liberal media just tells them that they're entitled to everything and that all men are useless.
How can real women even compete with this?
>>74157760
Honestly I think social media overwhelms female instinct and mental programming. I've seen several sane and respectable women who had really good lives going for them throw it away because they met some random guy online.
To make matters worse they always seem to pick the worst guys, do irreparable damage to their life, and fuck themselves over completely.
My friends ex did this with a guy in Canada, moved to Canada with the guy while my friend was in active military duty. Spent 3 years there, was abused constantly both physically and emotionally, came back twice only to go back. Proceeded to finally run away, and then dated a meth dealer who knocked her up and jumped state. She is now a single mom to a baby and is getting fat rapidly.
My ex did similar, jumped to California over a guy who she never met after being in a healthy stable relationship in our late twenties for 3 years. She bailed after 3 months, no clue what happened because I cut contact. As far as I've heard from friends she still hasn't dated anyone since she came back, but she is also approaching her 30s and likely loosing her smv. Not to mention she was always a 6-7 to begin with.
>>74158431
>To make matters worse they always seem to pick the worst guys
That's not really a coherent argument, but what is true is that they pick based on traits which can very much lead to degeneracy.
>Assertive
>Dismissive to an extent
>Good looking
A charismatic finance manager could easily fill those requirements, but so could a drugged-up loser. Women are the submissive gender and bend themselves around to suit the men they deem fit, for better or worse.
>>74155927
>How can young people in the West be convinced to marry and have children?
Eliminate government.
It's quite simple really, men don't want to get married or have children increasing numbers because the government interferes with the family unit, it gives women no fault divorce to leave a man and take his assets, it gives her family court which defaults child ownership to her, and it gives her child support from the man at threat of violence and in cases where that doesn't work there's a welfare state to give her everything she needs. Marriage and children for modern men is the single biggest risk to your legal and financial position.
Divorce is at 43% in the UK with women initiating most of the divorces, 90% of child custody goes to women. Mens suicide rate post divorce is up to 11x higher than that of women.
>>74155927
Make marriage legally beneficial to men. As it stands right now it's "beta provider insurance" for women. Theoretically it could work in favor of men too, but even multimillionaire women prefer to marry up.
>>74155999
You're a retard, aren't you? It's about female nature which is universal. Your precious asian waifus are only such waifus because their social structures back at home enforced it brutally. A voice actress who's even SUSPECTED of fucking around loses her entire career.
Put these women in a sexually liberal society, and they'll slut up harder than the native women. Why? Because they were raised to be feminine, but placed in a sexually licentious society. They'll be high value women with literally no backlash for exploiting their sexuality.
This is why many women, even arab women who just had a family unification with men who moved to Europe, divorce almost instantly. They realize they can fuck around with higher quality (read: richer/more charismatic) men.
You can't enforce change from the bottom, you need to do it from the top. On a legal level. Fucking hell, sometimes it gets to me how naive /pol/ is.
>>74158604
I didn't construct a cohesive argument because I figured this board understood female behavior enough to fill in the gap.
Which clearly you did, just seemed like spouting redundant information.
>>74158015
They can't, that's the joke.
make anime girls real and then i will marry all of them
>>74158748
Sure, sure, most of the board does.
But even then you always have shit that manages to fall down the cracks. The amount of knee-jerk white-knighting even in /pol/ is sometimes ridiculous. Not to mention how utterly alien the ideas are to the common populace.
>>74155927
Stable career jobs with enough income to afford children.
>>74158896
If they're 3d, they'll be pd.
>>74158431
>no clue what happened
Going out on a limb here ...
You're an asshole? Literally, a clueless asshole in his 30s and shitposting on /pol/ on a work day.
>>74158896
i mean you are not wrong
>>74155927
>Remove all legal entitlements to each other's assets
>Provide a better economic environment
>Bring in more submissive and attractive women from outside the country to lower the smv of the majority of women until they have realistic standards
>Give males the option to disown the baby and leave before birthing to balance out the power dynamic.
>>74155927
legalize child labor
>>74159189
Work 3rd shift.
Also someone's mad. Also it doesn't matter though why she did, she got what was coming her way from the moment she involved herself with the guy.
>>74156039
>>74156149
>>74156505
>>74156990
>>74157382
>>74158742
>>74158730
It needs to make economic sense so LEGALIZE CHILD LABOR
Redpilling the fuck out of your gf.
>tfw anime becomes reality, all waifus want chad cocks, nothing is left for neets.
Nothing could make me want children nowadays.
> World is shit.
> Feminism
> SJWs
> Safe Space Bullshit
> Tumblr is taking over
> Children cost too much
> Bye-Bye all your free time
> Bye-Bye all your hobbies
> Bye-Bye all your money
> Bye-Bye your sleep
> Bye-Bye your stress
> Fucking school man.....
> Might get bullied
> Might get influenced into smoking
> Might be a retard
> Might be an asshole
> Might be a whore / slut
> If you divorce or split, alimony
> No rewards to being a parent
> Fathers are seen as losers and are not appreciated.
> I prefer my selfish life living with and for my hobbies.
tl;dr
> Costs, Disadvantages and Risks overtake any potential advantages there could be.
The quality of women nowadays is SHIT. Absolute SHIT.
>>74155999
Fpbp
>>74160952
>>74160952
The family planning benefit program doesn't take care of EVERYTHING you absolute retard...how fucking ignorant are you?
>>74155927
By making having a big family look zanny and fun
>>74155927
I'm 19 with a qt redhead gf and we're talking about having kids by the time we're 24/25. It feels good finding the only non-slut in the country.
>Men have become degenerate shut ins terrified of taking responsibility over their own life who find no joy in work and barely even find any in things they claim to enjoy while their vindication in abandoning society perpetuates itself as they simply wait to die.
>Women have become deluded psychotics and degenerate hedonistic fatalists in realizing they have an expiration date and partake in excess of irresponsibility before they pass their prime hoping to fall back on the only man they know who doesn't know them.
>These people at their oldest now are in their 30s and have been like this since they existed
You don't fix that now it's already over.
>>74162235
I remember when I was a naive teenager
>>74162950
>I remember when I was a naive teenager
At least i'm trying m8, some of us don't want to give up hope of a future for the white race.
Separation of marriage and state, separation of economy and state, in fact just separate everything that doesn't actually require the use of force from the state. Guns should be for shooting your enemies not your citizens.
>>74162235
Damn I'm jealous m8. Redheads are my favourite.
>>74155927
you need to be 45, have finished college, have a steady job, a house, a car and a dog (cats are for faggots)
>>74155927
When Muslims take away women's rights and put them back in their place.
>>74155927
I'm 18 and have a long term girlfriend who I love. I'd marry(Pre-nup) her and have kids right now if I could. The problem is that it's pretty much economically unfeasible.
Childrens are annoying little fucking parasites, why the fuck would we want any?
>>74155927
Make women less shit.
Make 2d QTs worse
Make porn less accessible
Make gays worse companions and FWB
Make homosex less pleasurable
Make raising a kid less terrible
>>74158896
shes QTAF
>>74166627
>TFW Marrying a women in the UK is suicide without some form of 'marriage' contract stipulating what would occur in the event of a 'falling out'.
>>74166781
It's like that everywhere.
Men aren't the problem, we haven't changed, woman have.
People would be better off getting some househusband to work like a stepford wife from the better days then marrying an empowered womyn now in days and people are realizing that.
>>74155927
Why do people need to marry and have children? Aren't there enough people in the world? Why would I even want to bring someone into this clusterfuck world?
By paying them more than below minimum wage
>>74167142
That or marry an Asian woman I suppose. Lot of them are still content to be in a 'housewife' position.
Heavily censor and bias all news services so they don't know what a shitty state the world is in.
>>74167916
Maybe that explains why people on /pol/ prefer to racemix with fem-gooks. I'll afford the weebs the benefit of the doubt.
>>74155927
Get rid of student loans
>>74167142
>woman have.
No they havent the state has
>>74155927
The trick is simple: valuing family life, long paid maternity leaves and taxes made to push people to make more kids.
Unfortunately, once your country is 25% brown, it's already too late.
>>74155927
$1000/so per child, and I do none of the work.
It's the only way.
You're welcome!
