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What's the "Brexit" all about?
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Hey, /pol/, what's the brexit stuff all about? What's there to win, what's to lose, for both the EU and Britain respectively? Britbings, what's the situation six weeks before the referendum in your country, are there already tendencies towards in or out?
Also, Brexit general, I guess.
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>>74068829
Watch the movie, then ask questions,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTMxfAkxfQ0
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>>74068829

Fear is keeping us in.
Freedom is the prize but at cost.

Are we all Europeans now in the UK?
Or are we just British?

> Which is preferred?

Make your decision known on June 23rd, brit/pol/
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get BTFO /pol/ =D
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The only thing to break is your chains UK
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>>74068829
the fact that cameron literally sent mail to everyone's house begging to vote to stay in is a good sign we have to vote to get out.
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more immigrants to uk = stay
less immigrants to uk = leave
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>>74071947
>UK becomes white again.
>Immediately exits the EU
A damn shame.
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>>74071947
Oh geez, looks like I'm voting remain now guys :DDD
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>>74071947
So many cucks on my Facebook has been sharing this.Its bullshit. The Vienna treat of 1969 treaty article 70b won't allow this
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>>74071947
>Spain
>kicking out the only people in their economy that are gainfully employed

Wouldn't put it past them tbqh
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I hope the UK will leave. I will have equal chances with others to become a toilet cleaner.
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>>74068829
Basically Germany is taking over Europe with the EU. Germany have the most power in the EU. Its essentially the political version of WW3.
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If you vote 'Remain' you are literally voting away your right to choose who you are governed by, and how.
I don't understand the economic implications, and obviously we should have control over immigration, but I can't get my head round people who are ok with allowing people they haven't voted for, and who don't even live here, to make laws that govern them. It's shocking how easily people will vote away their freedoms.
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Brexit is just an Anglo campaign in order to gain sympathy for their race because most Aryans dislike the EU and want it to collapse.

What most ARYANS don't see is that nothing will change with Brexit because

EU = Anglo construct to keep the Aryan man down

Even if they leave, the ANGLO race will still control the EU and enforce Aryan GENOCIDE.
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>>74068829
a delusion

>will never happen, remember Scotland?
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so many first world countries are considering adopting isolationist policies.

It seems globalism has failed.
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>>74071947
>maybe if we tell them british people will come to britain they'll want to stay

remainers never make an argument
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>>74072311
The British think that they give more than they get. That's it.
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UK will vote to stay. The country is too cucked and London elected a muzzie mayor. Europe is a dying whore getting raped by muslims, it will be too late if people ever wake up
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>>74071947

oh Germany, you've not been doing much thinking yourself lately, have you?
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>>74072458
This, I hate the fucking EU and the UK.
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>>74071947

>Kick out people from other nations and cultures, who are having trouble integrating and could be a drag on the overall economy.
>OH YEAH WELL WE'LL JUST SEND YOU BACK MORE OF YOUR OWN CITIZENS, GOOD LUCK INTEGRATING YOUR OWN PEOPLE!
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>>74072458
Most likely.
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Last chance to keep Britain British.
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>>74068829
>Britbings, what's the situation six weeks before the referendum in your country, are there already tendencies towards in or out?

Polls are still basically 50/50.

I think a lot of it depends on how competent Boris Johnson is. This isn't just a referendum for him: it's basically his bid to be PM, so he is very motivated to nail it. He hasn't done much so far, but I am hoping he is timing his power-up for closer to the vote.

More important is what happens in Europe the week of teh referendum. Does Greece crash? Do migrant invader numbers increase a lot in June? Then we stand a 50/50 chance of voting to go out, in my opinion.
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>>74068829

Right now it's a little hard to call, I expect the majority will vote to remain within the EU if only because they fear the unknown. That said, there is a lot of anger at the direction of the EU so it's not a done deal.

The funny thing is, if either of the two main parties actually let us have a referendum on this issue in the past decade they would have easily secured a decision to stay in. The public opinion has only really started to shift in the last couple years. It's just you get tossers like Blair who hate the idea of democracy telling us we shouldn't even get a say.
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>>74072752
Since Obongo tried to tell us how to vote polls have been leaning more in favour of leave
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>>74072458
>Canada
no words just lol
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>>74068829
This video explains how we got to the referendum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UCm6LNj7P0
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>>74072833

Trump said to leave.
Last polls showed the reverse.
Sorry we failed you.
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A clever marketing ploy to sell breakfast sandwichs
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>>74070863
Switzerland stronk!
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>>74072452
100% this.

I hope they vote for the brexit. And we get rid of their snowflake status.
Lot of contracts will be re-negotiated more fairly.
Best case would that they come back, and we refuse to give them any special treatment.
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>>74072585
This.

>lol Brits are gonna be so pissed when we send them British people
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>>74072833
Not really statistically significant, though.
Plus, they are online polls, which probably have a slight Out favour. I think a 5% lead in online polls would reflect an actual result of ~50/50 for the general populace.
This is obviously because some total casual who have no real interest in completing online polls, or the EU in general, will still go out and vote for the status quo.
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So when is the voting happening?
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>>74073314
June 23.
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>>74071947
The meme is that the laws of the EU basically mean that they won't be able to kick British citizens out without a valid reason LMAO
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>>74073196
Yeah, you're probably right there.
Here's the average of every poll which is significant, interesting that in the last few days there's been a sudden spike in young people voting remain.
>www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2016/05/britain-s-eu-referendum
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>>74073357

Alright, good luck chaps!
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>>74071947

Knowing how stupid and thickle the Frogs and Johnny Daegoes are they will probably kick out all our old people who are retired out there.

Then it will just destroy a large portion of their economy but oh well we got one back at the Eternal Anglo...
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>>74073717
Kek.
Not at all.
What the frogs would like, is to delete the ISF after the Brexit, and get or French millionaires back in France.

Nobody wants to kick out the rich brits, there's no point in doing that. Actually, what the frogs will do, is seduce the rich brits that are in need of the EU advantages, to come live in Paris rather than Berlin or any other European city.
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>>74068829
If we leave
>Uncertainty
>Economical los
>mass 'Brain Drain'
>More expensive food, holidays, clothing, general merchandise
>Loss of human rights act
>No more free travel for Brits to anywhere in Europe (Or Europeans here)
>Possible loss of over sea territories

Stay in
>Boost to economy
>Better position to make deals
>Better trade
>Better prices on the market
>Encourage Europes smartest to work at our universities/institutions
>Fancy going to Sweden today? Fine, just go there, no issue
etc

Only people who want to leave are the people who hate Poles but loves Pakis or care about MUH SOVEREIGNTY. We live in a global world now so why are we wanting to take a step back in this and put ourselves at a massive risk. Its fucking madness. I usually always agree with /pol/ but you are wrong on this one.
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>>74074169
t. cuck
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>>74073923

Even if our bankers needed to do business post Brexit they wouldn't choose Paris as their home.

They probably fly into Frankfurt every day rather than live on the continent.
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>>74074169
Fucking embarrassment

Democracy > Potential loss of gib me dats
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>>74074169
5 Pounds were transferred to your account
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>>74074169
>No more free travel for Brits to anywhere in Europe (Or Europeans here)
you're wrong on that one though.

>>74074383
you don't really get what I meant.
I'm saying living, because it's the easiest to grasp. But nobody really cares, the importance is where they will consume, and spend their money or save it.
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Ill vote out but i think we'll most likely stay in, people are too scared of losing their dream retirement home in Spain to give up freedom of movement,
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>>74072752
>He hasn't done much so far
Did you not see his asparagus exposition? Moved me to tears.
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>>74071947
Shit.
I am now a #cruzmissile
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>>74074169
>no mention of democratic freedom

I would gladly suffer years of recession for that right, and you would vote it away because you don't want to pay 5p more for your quinoa. Disgusting.
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>>74074169
You're retarded, enjoy the EU superstate without democratic accountability
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>>74074758
>not Jeb!
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>>74074740
Old people are voting out en masse, it's dumbass 20-30 year olds voting in
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Enough said.
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>>74074852
When does he become pres?
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>>74074852
The shilling over that was immense.
He said he thinks leaving would be better but that it's not his decision to make.
And the media was all over it.
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>>74072308
Haven't you realised most people are idiots?
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>>74074842

>20-30 year olds voting in

Ah yes the age demographic who are the least likely to vote in any elections and on the day of Glastonbury as well.

Meme magic lads.
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>>74074169
>>Fancy going to Sweden today? Fine, just go there, no issue
>Sweden
You blew it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UCm6LNj7P0

THERE IS STILL HOPE FOR US LADS, REMEMBER TO VOTE LEAVE
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lmao at these retards ITT
>thinks brexit happens but the majority of polls show Remain

Even the majority would vote Leave, it's NOT even fucking BINDING.

You are so cucked, you don't even have democracy.

Better kill yourself RIGHT NOW
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>>74074169

>Boost to economy

Yes, I'm sure continuing the status quo will magically boost the economy

>Better position to make deals

No, worse. EU regulations and trade barriers.

>Better trade

Above

>Better prices on the market

Nope, worse.

>Encourage Europe's smartest to work at our universities/institutions

Only the EU allows this to happen? Sure.

All in all, kill yourself pathetic Tory shill.
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>>74075061
It's not legally binding but politically it is. Ignoring it would end the entire political establishment.
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alright Brits, let's not fuck this up.

you're one of our few remaining allies that can help stop the aryan hivemind with us.
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>>74074852
ofc he does.
One of the most annoying things for America to make very advantageous deals for them is the fact that the EU as a whole can protect its markets better from both them or even the chinese.
TAFTA would have been way easier to punch down our throat, if they only had to negotiate with one country, instead of 27.

>inb4
we still live in a global market, and the EU isn't protectionist at its core. It did adopt a lot of protectionistic policies though.
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>>74072458
>>74072552

The most optimistic outcome is that exit gets 40-50% and conservatives cant take votes from UKIP talking about an exit. Meaning that UKIP get a better representation next election.
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>>74071947
They act as if brits having brits come back is a bad thing???
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>>74075237

EU is absolutely protectionist, indirectly too with the regulations that foreign companies have to adhere to in order to access European markets. It's nothing to do with America being upset, it's about globalism. How come Obongo and Shillary have both come out in favour of Bremain?
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>>74075152
This is so hilarious. You are exactly repeating what the Dutchfags said after the Ukraine referendum.
>"muh next election we will show them!!"

You are so delusioned, it's unbelievable. I can't fucking wait, 23 June will be the greatest day of this year. All these suicidial tears
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>>74074169
t. Ahmed
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>>74075152
>ignoring it would be the end of the political establishment
What the fuck are you cucks going to do about it? Wave some flags, yell "britain first!" and get beat up by shitskins before going home to your cucksheds?

You fell for socialism, gave your gov all your rights and now you get genocided. Enjoy you pathetic cuckold
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>>74075395
Completely different situation, the dutch thing had a low turnout, and even then the PVV is now polling at 40%+ there, their establishment is going to get fucked next election.
40% UKIP votes in a FPTP system hands them a majority.
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>Brexit
Please no, where will all those over educated surgeons, rocket scientist and engineers from eastern Europe go to work then ?
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>>74075395

>Thinking there wouldn't be riots in the street if David Cameron chose to remain if the British people vote leave

>Thinking the remain camp will be motivated enough to go and vote on the day, compared to the angry Brexit crowd
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>>74075444
>What the fuck are you cucks going to do about it?
Half the government's own party want to leave, so they would bring down the government and force elections. A party for leaving (ether UKIP or a new party from the tories who want to leave) would sweep all of the pro-leave vote and get 50%+, which gives you a majority easily.
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>>74075395
>>74075061

Shoo shoo Mohammed al Mountaini
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>>74075382
>How come Obongo and Shillary have both come out in favour of Bremain?
Because their current position in the EU market wouldn't be threatened ?
What I meant is that there isn't as much protectionism intra-EU.
And it certainly isn't in terms of educations and migration of talents/intellectuals.
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>>74074169

I see it more as a ideological choice between nationalism and globalism. Remaining inside the EU means we keep the stability of the status quo at the cost of the some of our sovereign control. If I had faith in the direction the European Union is taking I'd prefer to be on the inside as one of the more powerful members, but these last few years have been insane.
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>>74075625
>British
>riots
come on. I know that preventing riots from leading to independence isn't your speciality. But actually rioting, isn't either...
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>>74075553
Yes, sure it's completely different.

>"next election we will show them, just wait another 10 years!!!"
>10 years later
>"o-okay, maybe next election"

>>74075625
I remember these great riots when the Lissabon treaty was still put in place even though people voted against it. Wait I actually don't because no riot happened.

The government controls the people and no one would dare to riot. Cucks

But this won't happen anyway, because the majority will vote Remain. Most people are not stormfags weeabos
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>>74074169

If we leave
> Uncertainty
Its not exactly cheery in the EU, the bureaucracy stops a lot of businesses thriving and helps out inefficient/bad business

>Economic Loss
Cost of living will go down due to being able to do our own deal with third world countries. It will take 2 years to leave the EU aswell so thats more than enough time for a change over

>More expensive
Clearly you dont understand reality... buying from poor/developing countries will be a lot cheaper than in the EU.

>Loss Of Human Rights
Like we cant introduce our own rights act?

>Free Travel
Reality is there would likely be a deal with the EU to replace the current one that allows visa free travel, but not allowing people to work in other countries. Its not an all or nothing.

>Loss of territories... not even likely.


Stay in
>Boost the economy
The EU is the only trading block IN THE WORLD that isnt experiencing growth, its the same size that it was in 2006. Why would we not trade with countries where things are going right?

>Better position to make deals
Simply not true, all deals need 28 members to agree to it, only 1 industry needs to stand in the way of a deal to stop it going through.

>Better Trade
We pay more for a worse product

>Better Prices
We pay more for a worse product
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>>74075960
Honestly, if the government tried to ignore the referendum result I can imagine the royals stepping in to remove the PM from office and force an election.
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>>74074169
daily reminder
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>>74071947
eks dee, my autistic friend
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>>74075960
>what were the london riots?
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_England_riots
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>>74076010
You really don't get how major ignoring a referendum result would be, do you?
The UK political system relies on trust and a lot of precedents. Ignoring the will of the people would ruin the entire political class forever, I don't think even Dave is stupid enough to risk that.
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>>74075831

Obviously there isn't protectionism intra-EU, that's the whole point. That's what makes the EU uncompetitive because we're only competing amongst ourselves whilst everyone else competes on the world market.

>>74075960

Political suicide and riots, without question. Thinking the government would go against the explicit democratic will of the people shown in a referendum is silly, it would lead to both rioting and eternal political suicide.
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>>74074169
>Fancy going to Sweden today? Fine, just go there, no issue

Too true, getting those Norway and Switzerland travel visas was a real bitch.
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>>74076176
>Ignoring the will of the people would ruin the entire political class forever
So are you saying importing millions of muslims, having sharia zones in certain areas and sharia courts is the will of the people?

Wow, Britcucks really surprise me.
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>>74076347

Gradual change =/= ignoring an explicit democratic referendum

Stop memeing for just a second and think with your brain
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>>74075913
But what does having sovereign control even mean? Yeah we rule ourselves, but think - we will always have a Tory or Labour PM. Their views will always align with the EUs. So we may as well stay in and get the benefits anyway.
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>>74076428
Funny how you always play the "It's not the same" card, every time I prove you wrong. You are just like the average leftist, no matter how many facts there are, you won't accept reality.

Pretty sure when the majority will vote Remain on 23 June, you will still be on /pol/ claiming some nonsense and how Britain will save "Europe and the white race"
>g-go UKIP, next e-election!!"
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>>74076620

Moving the goalposts, just like a leftist.

You genuinely think that the headline:

"UK VOTES TO LEAVE EU BUT DAVID CAMERON SAYS THEY'LL STAY IN ANYWAY"

is a possibility. That's how thick you are.
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It'll be just like the referendum on the vote. Nobody will turn out for it and the ones that do will vote status quo anyway.

We're the laziest twats in all Europe.
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>>74068829

Down: Uncertain short term future
Ups: Leaving a union that is destined to fail due to its immigration and wealth share/realocation policies. The unions only answer to any problem is more federalisation and increased brown faced immigration.
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>>74073196
>>74072752


More thoughts....

In particular, 2 contrary thoughts:

1) As I said earlier, it's good if Boris gets lots of attention prior to the vote, and that he puts on a typical Boris show. Basically this is because people have a natural affinity for Boris. Or perhaps I am underestimating him, and people like him because, like Trump, he can put on a very effective show whilst his detractors think he's an idiot.
Why Boris? Because Boris isn't hung up on immigration. Immigration is a top issue for this country, but I don't think it would be if it were just Europeans coming here. For example, lots of people (in my opinion) will be quite disappointed that we have a Muslim mayor of London now, but I think only a fraction of people would be so concerned if instead of Sadiq Khan we now had a Pole or a Lithuanian mayor of London. Put simply: European immigration probably doesn't annoy people enough to justify having Farage get all the attention for the Out campaign. People vent about EU immigration, but I think that is only because they hope it'll also cause politicians to lower non-EU immigration, too.
So, Boris getting attention = good

2) However:
If we imagine a hypothetical scenario in which the EU referendum, including Boris, gets no attention in the media whatsoever, a certain proportion of voters would forget to vote entirely. Young people, who typically want In, are especially forgetful. And so we have the situation where the more attention and hype the referendum gets in the media, the more the In campaign will benefit, because a larger proportion of them would be liable to forget to vote if the media weren't screaming at them about the referendum.
So, the more attention the EU gets in the media, the more asleep Out voters will be reminded to vote.

Two conflicting thoughts.
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Can someone explain to me why we should leave anyway? Lets be honest here Europe is heading for a crash thanks to Merkels genius plan, and as much as I despise Cameron he's at least keeping the majority of refugees out for now.

Do we have anything to lose? When Europe sinks we can just sit back anyway, we don't have their currency and we all know the moment that the EU goes to pot, as long as we have an uncucked PM they will refuse to give money or aid if Europe looks fucked anyway.

Is staying in really that bad? I say that seeing as how the only downside is more people being shipped in which I'm not convinced is going to happen.
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>>74076920
Not really, Dont underestimate how much old people dislike brown faces. UKIP got 4 million votes and it was only that low because we basically have a 2 party system set up to take votes away. Also factor in the Tories got into power based of putting in a referendum. Brexit out of the gates will be 6 million strong.
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>>74077027
>So, the more attention the EU gets in the media, the more asleep Out voters will be reminded to vote.

Whoops:
So, the more attention the EU gets in the media, the more asleep In* voters will be reminded to vote.
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The EU is the 4th Reich, the key to destroying it and restoring democracy is to leave and hope other countries get emboldened and follow us, and the EU will collapse.
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>>74076799
I think the outcome will be Remain but yes, that's a possibility. The fact that you think this can't happen at all shows how fucking retarded and bluepilled you are.

The whole EU is antidemocratic in every fucking aspect. Just inform yourself about the Lisabon treaty and what happened.
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>>74072452
>>74072311
Really? Is that what you think?

lol you have no fucking idea... Oh and we do give more than we gain, it's a fact.

Suck it up you pair of faggots, in regards to Germany, the only thing you get more of than us is rapefugees, so have fun with that!
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>>74077235
>>Do we have anything to lose?
The opportunity to become a more independent nation.

We'd still be ruled by globalists at home in the UK government, but leaving the EU is a helpful step to ending the globalist control.
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>>74076436

I sort of agree, or rather I would completely agree with you if the EU didn't start to throw it's weight around on the current migrant issue. The ability to control our laws and trade agreements means we could adapt ourselves better then if we were part of a larger union with a single one size fits all approach of what they think is about right. Of course the problem there is that our leadership isn't exactly stellar itself and often times the EU regulations have benefited us over what our government might want to do. Still, it's a ideological choice of having British people shitting on us, or running along side what unelected bureaucrats think is best for everyone.
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>>74077027
I know nothing about this man but he looks like a fun guy.

That street jet ski and giant tennis racket especially.
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>>74077859
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> UK has a housing crisis
> IMF warns against Brexit as it may cause a housing crash

Hahaha bring it.
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>>74077803
Do you really think globalist control is going to stop by leaving the EU?

The only way the global control will end would be by half the world collapsing at the very least. I mean WW1 and 2 destroyed half the world and yet the squirrely bastards still found places to run and hide, making money off of everyone while good people died.

I dont know how globalist control will be ended, in all honesty hasnt the world always been controlled by the few, kings, popes and now bankers and CEO's.

Peasants are peasants no matter the age sadly.
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>>74078051
>Do you really think globalist control is going to stop by leaving the EU?

No, that's why I said that globalist control won't end by leaving the EU.
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>>74078026
Exactly my thoughts.

It appeals to the young voters who currently have no chance of buying a house, too, lel.
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>>74078026
A housing crash would be a fucking good thing, the bubble has got to pop again, and I hope a bunch of Russian, Arab and Chinese Oligarchs lose a lot of cash.

DO IT!!!!
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>>74076260
>Political suicide and riots, without question. Thinking the government would go against the explicit democratic will of the people shown in a referendum is silly, it would lead to both rioting and eternal political suicide.
I was just memeing.

>That's what makes the EU uncompetitive because we're only competing amongst ourselves whilst everyone else competes on the world market.
But the Eu is also competing on the world market. I don't know Brits economy well. But for France, there has been competition with Germany, true, though it matters less and less, cause we don't compete in the same areas any more and we become more complementary than rivals. The same way we have no reason to compete with 75% of the world.

France has stopped being a manufacture economy since quite some time (and it's a slowly and hurtful process, but will be better in the long run, I believe). There's no point for France to try to produce shoes and t-shirts as competitive as China. We are way better at making Nuclear plants, submarines, or even softwares (with our high number of startups), which are areas where we do compete in the world market.
Those areas do require raw & basic goods, and here's where our intra-non-protectionism/inter-protectionism is an advantage, it's better for us to get some of our stuff from Germany, than China for example, that way we help Europe sustain itself.

Though ( and yes I follow you on quite some points), the EU is also a catastrophe. And this, I believe to be the fault of how it works/is managed... and Germany.
On the Greece issue, France agreed with Greece on one matter privately, but it then never said its opinion in front of Germany, because our leaders believed they didn't had as much legitimacy to take decisions as Germany. On the other hand Germany refuses to act as the biggest economy of Europe, and just keeps producing excess without re-injecting it in the Economy (like America did after WWII).
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>>74078138
Sorry I meant, do you think that there are even steps to reach that goal, you are saying thats the first step but I'm not sure if we can stop it in all honesty.
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>>74078201
tl;dr the EU can burn in hell and anyone that disagrees with this, is Jewish or a rapefugee because that's the only groups the EU actually benefits.
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>>74071947
It's 1.3 million in total
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>>74075649
That sounds like nothing compared to the globalist EU losing the United Kuckdom from their empire.

You delusional cucks can't see that YOUR GOVERNMENT DOES NOT REPRESENT YOUR INTERESTS

THEY ARE GLOBALIST JEW PUPPETS SERVING THOSE ABOVE THEM NOT YOU BELOW THEM
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The only people who want in besides corporates and kikes are the sort of low energy cosmopolitan faggots you'd find upvoting puns on reddit. These cucks won't even show up.
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>>74078304
Why are you acting as the average leftist ?
fucking pleb, don't you have fish, stolen by the Dutchmen, to cry over ?
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I'd happily welcome back our expats, without question, so long as we get to deport all the EU shitskins from Bulgaria, Romania etc in return.

It will balance itself out quite nicely and we'll become a lot whiter.

How these retards think its a bad thing is beyond me.

Spain for sure, the expats there are retarded old people, but in other EU nations? They're skilled workers, but the EU already has that covered with all the engineers, doctors and scientists from Syria.

So we're all good!
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>>74078227
I reach my positions through logic. Whether X is right or wrong doesn't depend on how hard it is to change X.
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>>74077235
You need to understand that there is no standing still in this situation. If we stay it means committing to further integration. The next treaty will be introduced later this year, and probably signed not long after that.

http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/the_five_presidents_report_and_the_next_eu_treaty
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>>74078487
>don't you have fish, stolen by the Dutchmen
That's the Scottish and no, I have German tears to drink at the fact their house of cards ponzi scheme is coming to an end soon.

;^) And with it, yours too. I'd stock up on batteries, water etc. You gon starve you socialist shit stain of a country.
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>>74068829
its exactly 50/50 here.
Most of the people that i've seen saying "in" are women / betas though.
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it's fucking weird how many uni students want to stay in.

You'd think leftie libtard scum like them would jump on the freedom/democracy bandwagon immediately but they are fucking voting in.

Absolutely regressive. Beyond regressive.
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>>74078704
Uni's get funding by the EU (at our expense) to brainwash them, did you watch that Brexit movie thing?

It's illuminating, seriously watch it.
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>>74078704
These people are weak willed and think whatever their professors tell them to think. All those feminists voting for Europe are essentially handing over female suffrage. We should make a feminists for brexit meme pointing that out. I bet kikebook would love it.
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>>74078179
>>74078184

It'll be a good thing overall:
> Crash brings down prices
> Caused Arabs/Chinese/Russians to lose their cash
> Housing will no longer be bought enmasse by those smelly bastards who assume London is always a safe bet
> Lower pressures on the market due to EU migration being cut down

Bring it.
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>>74078986
Exactly! But you would have thought those stinky foreign investors would have learned from the last time the housing market in the UK/London crashed?

Manlet billionaires, when will they learn?
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>>74078693
You need to take the hit and put a few in hospital before the vote. Lose your voice while taking it away from others like a champ.
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>>74078942
yeah I watched it

but none of the professors or lecturers have actually commented on it to anyone that I know.

There's a lot of pro-EU stuff going on in the union (I'm at University of Leeds) but that's a student run thing.
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>>74078704
The EU takes our money, gives half of it to projects for lazy students and they believe its a great thing. Socialism at work... We really do need a civil war.
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>>74074557
Whats the law on the Visa travel. I heard it's a different agreement from the EU?
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>>74079197
The NUS gets the funding, why do you think it's so ardently lefty and pro EU?

We need to nuke the EU, and France for our own safety.

>>74074557
Sorry France, you've got to be nuked, it's nothing personal.
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>>74079197
The Student Union is a cancer that will push any leftist/socialist/communist ideas. We need to kill them all.
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>>74078704
It's pretty clear, educated people tend to vote Stay. They are not stupid, they know what's important for the future.

So no surprise, the neet weaboos on /pol/ vote Leave.
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http://predictwise.com/politics/uk-politics

Looks like the gambling odds put Brexit at 30% right now, which incidentally is also the current odds for Trump winning the US presidency.

30% isn't too bad, good luck.
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>>74079094

The crash wasn't that bad and was global, not to mention the UK recovered better than most.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if the government capitalises on a crash and regulates the market to stop it returning to where we are.

Rent controls and restrictions on foreign investment post crash would encourage UK citizens to jump into the market and revitalise it during the slump.
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>>74074169

If we stay in were slowing our country to be ruled by an uncollected leader.
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>>74079401
fuck you Suisse reeeeeeeeee
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>>74079268
>mfw and yfw the EU gives £1000 out the money we give them to businesses for every migrant they hire over UK citizens.
>That's £1000 per migrant they hire and we pay for it.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/well-close-this-unfair-low-wage-loophole-9039081.html

>mfw and yfw UK businesses can pay EU workers below national minimum wage and just replace them with a new worker to get another £1000 for a new migrant they hire at our expense.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2379477/Brussels-offers-UK-firms-1-000-cash-bribes-hire-foreign-workers.html


If you were a business, what would you do?

A. Hire an EU migrant that you can legally pay below national minimum wage and basically enslave because if they complain they can be easily replaced, and you get £1000 for hiring them.

B. Hire a British born worker who legally you cannot pay below national minimum wage because of National Insurance and minimum wage laws, and you don't get the £1000 and you can't just replace them if you try to enslave them because they're not easily replaceable.

Which will you hire from a business point of view?

So is it any wonder that businesses want to stay in the EU? They're onto a good thing here, but you and me and your average Brit born citizen? We're being fucked over, hard.

Fuck the EU and to mainlanders that support the EU, you are endorsing slavery, this is modern day slavery and it's disgusting.

http://www.channel4.com/news/waitrose-suspends-apple-supplier-after-migrant-worker-report

This documentary sheds light on the conditions EU workers have to endure, illegal for British citizens but perfectly legal for EU citizens to endure, so anyone telling you that the EU gives us workers rights?

BULL FUCKING SHIT!
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>>74078704

University does not make you wise to the world, infact the opposit happens as you are insulated from it. I was a libkid until I actually got a job. Academia is little more than abit of work a few times a year and a ton of mothers milk supplied by the governmnet to keep me in a milk coma.
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Was there a referendum to get the United Kingdom INTO the EU? Probably not. Hence, the opposition is way too generous in demanding a referendum to get them out of it. The EU is undemocratic when it benefits them, so it should be responded to in kind.

So even if the referendum fails, a eurosceptic party in the future (UKIP, reformed Tories) should just get into power and then yank the country out of it no fucks given.
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>>74079401
>look at me parrot some shit i heard from my pro-eu news channels

fuck off swiss cheese
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>>74079469
Labour had an interesting idea of seizing unused properties from non domiciles.

We should do that, sure it's a bit communist but it will help.
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>>74079401
Educated people arent taught how to think, they are taught what to think.

They live sheltered lives of safe spaces, they never feel the reality of what their policies cause.
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>>74077235
Turkey's going to get visa free travel soon.
They'll send over even more migrants, and roaches will appear everywhere.
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>>74079513
People bid on presidencies? What's that app?
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>>74079873
Sky bet, but isn't online gambling illegal in the United States of Freedom?
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>>74079835
>look at me parrot some shit i heard from my stormfront forum

Fuck off weaboo and get a job you worthless piece of shit.

Good thing most UK are not stupid and will vote Remain.
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>>74075061
The polls actually show it as even, but the thing is the people want to remain have been indoctrined by our education system to want to remain. You don't learn about what's wrong with the EU, only the "positives" of being part of the EU. And young people don't fucking vote, if they won't vote for actual parties I doubt they'll be voting for remaining.
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>>74079819

A referendum was the best the opposition was going to get, both main parties support staying in the EU. It's just the Conservatives are more divided about it while the majority of Labour cucks are completely for it and even fought to keep people from voting on the issue.

The only reason we are getting a referendum is because it was the Tories way of limiting the damage UKIP could do to them.
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>ITV news comres
Sorry but, into le trash can it goes.

Pretty much every single poll conducted has it at around 50/50 or 49/51 etc.
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>>74079358
>Sorry France, you've got to be nuked, it's nothing personal.
>Brits thinking they can nuke France
Come on we both know you'd need to make it public and wait a month or two before actually being able to mobilize a single soldier, while over here, our President just has to tell his secretary to he plans on nuking the U.K. for it to happen.

>>74079286
well, with a Visa, not only do you have to pay, but you also have to renew it after a certain period of time, and can only be renewed under certain circumstances (otherwise a migrant could just renew it's tourism visa over and over). An other disadvantage is that it can take days, sometimes weeks, to get your visa (even when you're getting it at the embassy of the country you're currently stuck).
They also limit your actions, with a tourist visa, you are forbidden to work. Examples are working, journalist, student, transit visas, etc.
Also, a visa is easy to revoke, in case you weren't a good boy, and thus, it's easier to forbid you from staying any longer on the territory.

Ofc, all those rules depend on the country. That said, even with a Brexit, I believe they won't re-use the visas, worst case, they'll make them free, and easier to get.
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>>74072312
do you have the full video with sound of that (youtube)?
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>>74079962
>no u

top stuff, cuck

enjoy your rapefugees, we're on the next boat out

>image from itv 1 month ago

http://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/poll-of-polls/
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>>74080234
No, France I'm sorry but you've got to go.

For the safety of the UK, it'll be a quick and painless death we promise you that xxx love you baby. Bye xxx
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>>74077819
Okay, I see what you are saying and I agree. I don't know. I was on for staying in at the start of this thread, besides the trolls or memers the few who have replied seriously have helped me see their point of view which I don't really think I've had any other exposure to from the media. I'll some more research up until June.
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>>74080194
Reality just called. They want you back.

Anyway, 23 June will be soon. But I'm sure you have already new excuses ready.
>"muh next election UKIP will win and Nigel will call for the crusade!!!"
>"yes referendum is lost but don't you see??? we actually won!!!"
>"the day of the rope will come!!!"
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>>74080194
That was probably a telephone poll, they mostly show remain at an advantage. Online polls are more 50/50.
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They just brought a bit about the Brexit on the Franco-German channel Arte. According to them, artists are against the Brexit. They also interviewed the New York Philharmonical Orchestra who tour Europe on a regular basis. They said they'd have to think about playing in the UK if that involves lengthy customs procedures for all their stuff and instruments in the future.
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Watching the Brexit movie. How accurate is this? The EU Parliament sounds fucking shady as shit as they're presenting it.
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>>74080083
The only reason we have the referendum is because the conservatives didnt believe they would get a majority rule. They expected a minority government at best and expected that referendum would be the first to get dropped.

The thing is labour should be for exiting the EU, the UKIP party has been taking away their voters. I honestly believe Labour would be in power for a long time if we left the EU.
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>>74080463
>mfw brit bottles call a "senate" a "house of lords."
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>>74080372
nobody expected UKIP to win in this system. it just wasnt possible

and whats that image supposed to prove? that 2% more are voting to leave as of may 8th? dumb fuck
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>>74080372
Yes, reality did just call, here you go.

>>74080277
But please do ignore it, by all means ;^)
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>>74079962
Thanks for the work. But why do you care whether the UK will remain or leave? They'll inhale a bit of fresh air after the toilet cleaners will have been kicked out.
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>>74080463
Pretty accurate, this is a president they chose:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bypLwI5AQvY
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Basically, the political elite love the EU because their buddies in the city make money from it and they get comfy EU advisor jobs to retire into (less competitive and better food than the UN) and the left love it because it lets them enforce their undemocratic will on the people so all that's left is for every outlet not owned by murdoch to scare the population into voting against their own interests.
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>>74080463
>The EU Parliament
Haven't seen the movie, but don't trust those guys. They're after even more power. By now even mainland Europeans feel alienated from those people in Brussels that nobody even voted for and that are passing one laughable regulation after the other.
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>>74080620
It's Jean-Claude Juncker on a proxy m8
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>>74080547
A senate implies the people within it have power.

The house of Lords doesn't have any power ladm8.
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>>74080463
It's pure propaganda, most of it is purely fiction. And luckily no one will waste 1 hour to watch that shitty film.

>>74080579
That pic proves that the majority votes Remain. Didn't except some weeabo retard to understand it though.
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>>74080234
I get that we won't be able to work/live after a Brexit. But visa free travel would continue.
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>>74076172
Weren't those niggers just looting?
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>>74080722
It can veto bills, can't it?
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>>74080625

>Belgium
>which is pretty much a non-country

Hahahahahaha. Jesus.
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>>74080731
do you not understand that the latest polls are the most relevant? those being may 8th on your image? are you seriously fucking retarded?

its also varying samples of 800 - 3700 people, which is obviously not a representative of the 64 million people living in this country.

you actually might have downs syndrome
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>>74080777
>visa free travel would continue.
Enter one unforseen refugee crisis one hot summer, and you can probably forget about that.
Look what last autumn did to free travel across Europe.
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>>74080083
I see what you mean, but this referendum is quite possibly bait designed to close the argument permanently once the British public decides to stay in.

The opposition shouldn't have bitten and sprung the trap. It's a huge gamble, and if the British public (or the people counting the votes) decide that Britain should remain in, it would be a huge setback, emboldening Europhiles and demoralizing Eurosceptics.

But I understand that UKIP and backbencher Tories have fought for nearly 3 decades and are pretty greedy at the moment.

Still, the best way to do it is to simply keep up the anti-EU message and get elected on a broader platform. Then wait for an inevitable clash between London and Brussels over something, and then give the EU an ultimatum that they would invariably reject, then tell them to go to hell and leave.

But then again, this referendum wasn't orchestrated by UKIP or backbenchers, but the europhile Cameron. He basically forced this on them, and to not accept his gracious chance to leave would reek of antidemocratic sentiment. A pretty underhanded, and brilliant, plan of him.
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>>74080777
>I get that we won't be able to work/live after a Brexit
only morons think that.

>But visa free travel would continue.
probably, it's in the best interests of everybody.
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>>74080835
It can try, but the bills just keep being resubmitted constantly until they have no choice but to pass them.
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>>74080835
It can send bills back to the HoC with amendments but it can't outright block anything.
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>>74080832
What else would a nigger do?
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>>74080835
It can hold them up for a year at most.
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>>74080883
Are you implying that I can work in France without a work permit after a Brexit?
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>>74080849
Nigel did get fined for that "outburst" meanwhile everyone else will call him names and make fun of him without so much as a warning.
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>>74080864
>le anglocuck's first time in democracy

In every. fucking. referendum. the Contra side gains towards the end.

Wow, this is really incredible how much you try to convince yourself that Brexit will happen. Just to feel better. I'm sorry for your autism. Please just don't kill yourself on 23 June.
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>>74080463
Very accurate. Its Bernie Sanders screw job level.
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>>74081086
not really.
We have a reputation of trying to kill, and make life hard, of anyone that doesn't talk good French (ask the Britons about it).
There's also that matter of eternal anglo, etc.
If you find a way to bring back Napoleon or you have a lot of money, in that case, yes I'm implying that we'll welcome you with open arms.
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>>74081192
I bet you're the same kind of filth that thought Scotland would go independent but you got told they wouldn't.

When we say that Brexit will happen (as we said Scotland wouldn't vote for independence) a fucking Brexit will happen.

Learn the law of science and gravity you piece of shit.
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>>74080625

Stayed Based Nigel. He always BTFO of the EU Parliament.
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>>74080369

Probably for the best. Honestly I'm kind of neutral on the subject, my gut says to leave the EU purely on ideological reasoning, but there are some real concerns about dropping our favorable concessions and influence in order to go it alone.

I'm confident we could negotiate new treaties and agreements, but I think it would be foolish to assume we'd immediately be better off. Long term it's harder to say, it's entirely possible the EU will sink itself with the direction it has been going in.

If it wasn't for the last two or three years I'd be pretty much for staying in, but holy shit the EU seems insane these days. I mean they just won't let Greece fail so it can recover and that's before we got into this refugee shit.
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I also can't understand, why David tells that the cost of leaving the EU would be £4,300 for every household. As I'm able to understand, the toilet cleaners are moving to London because there're a lot of jobs for them and as a consequence, the demand levitates the prices. Therefore the OUT should assuage the housing market.
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>>74081192
wow good one

maybe your country will attempt to uncuck itself one day, too. but until then just remain neutral where you belong and dont stick your nose in, thanks
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>>74072308
>>74074978
I saw some retarded girl on my Facebook share an article or post or something that talked about how mobile data roaming charges and travel prices would increase slightly if we left the EU, then she and her friends babbling on in the comments how there's no fucking way they're ever gonna vote to leave the EU now. 50 likes to her post and growing.

Can still feel my blood boiling.
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>>74081326
The French are narcissists.
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>>74081349
>out of arguments
>claims to win through """meme magic"""

Stay cucked, United Arabia

>>74081479
>unbinding referendum
Truely a heroic attempt to uncuck yourself. Feels good to profit so much from you EU fags, meanwhile your tax money goes directly to refugees and new mosques.
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>>74081721
We'll see, when vote Brexit and leave you can either apologise or hide out and pretend to be someone else claiming you were "right" all along... Retard.
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>>74081431
sergei, vodka zakonchelis?
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>>74081781
>when vote Brexit and leave
Yeah, sure.

>>74081857
>so many voting Remain
This triggers the weaabo anglocuck
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>>74080625
OOOOHHHHHHHH
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>>74080880

I'm not sure the opposition really has a choice. I suppose UKIP could have decided that Tories working for the Out campaign are just setting them up for the fall and kept out of the referendum all together, but the very fact the Conservatives offered a referendum and actually went through with it (instead of fobbing it off like others) forced the issue.

It has sort of blown up in the governments face though. If they offered this referendum even a couple years ago, they would have secured a easy victory. The opposition had to accept this referendum because at the time it looked like the best shot they would get.

Ironically, you could sort of compare this to Scotland's referendum. That too is basically being used to get them to shut up for a while, but if we somehow vote to leave the EU and the government actually goes through with it you can bet good money on Scotland wanting another chance to leave.
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>>74077027
I love BoJo and he is a true Brit not like that Kraut cunt Cameron
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>>74081616
as narcissist as brits.
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>>74074169
>>Boost to economy
It's killing the economy. It's harder than ever for small businesses to get going. The EU implements a gorillion regulations that no human being could possible understand without a massive legal team. So smaller businesses can get buttfucked by EU for not following one of a trillion regulations that they had no hope of possibly understanding. Existing massive organisations have no trouble because they can afford the legal team to ensure that all regulations are being followed. Hence why all the rich fuckers are so anti-Brexit, they don't want competition.
>>Better trade
No, trading negotiations are a pain in the ass because of EU regulations. Once again, bigger businnesses wont give a fuck, but smaller businesses will have a much more difficult time. If we exit the EU we can still trade to other countries, it just means rather than having to deal with EU regulations and the country that we're trading to's laws, we'd just have to deal with the country that we're trading to's laws. Hence, trade is far simplier.
>>Better prices on the market
See the first point. Prices on the market are at an all time high you fucking retard and the lack of competition for businesses is a big contributor.

Ultimately smaller businesses and consumers suffer. The guys in the glass towers would get to stay in their glass towers, even if we did Brexit, they would just have to ensure that their services improve and evolve to stay on top of their competitors, which is key to a healthy economy. But currently, they have zero fucking motivation to do such a thing, because there is no significant competition.
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>>74081981
People who say they are voting out are edge lords.

70+ are voting to remain in Scotland anyway and that will keep us in the EU.
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>>74082173
>votes muslim mayor
>thinks there is just the slightest chance brexit will happen

How fucking retarded do you need to be?
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>>74082265
>mayor of a city with about 5% (many shitskins) of the countries whole population
>this is somehow indicative of anything

how retarded do you have to be?
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>>74082230
nigger
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>>74082431
>biggest city of Britain with 13% of the total population is not relevant

Look, it doesn't really matter what facts are shown. You will deny everything. Only the 23 June can pop your dream bubble.

Just be prepared and have vaseline ready. It will hurt even more than the Ahmed's dick currently in your ass.
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>>74082608
Pretty obvious you're just a paki trying to discourage leave voters from bothering to go out and vote. Sad!
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>>74082552
>vote out
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>>74071947
i love how they don't put a number on how many immigrants will get kicked out, only on how many brits will be coming back
fucking biased arseholes
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>>74082800
>vote in
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>>74082608
you are that swiss cunt that pops up to discourage leavers aint you? stfu cuck it aint working

CRASHING THIS PLANE WITH NO SURVIVORS
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>>74082886
P-please be bait
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>>74078179
>>74078986
>tfw my sister bought a house a week ago.
HAHAHAH I don't even care nobody listens to what I have to say so I'll just laugh as they all burn.
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>>74079286


Norway and Switzerland are non-EU, but both are Schengen.

So you can travel to either without passport, but they aren't cucked by EU taxes
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>>74068829
I want the brexit to win but I don't think they will

>https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/
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>>74081857
Don't know why you've posted the 2015 polls.

Ebin trolling?
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>>74082886
Holy shit how fucking retarded are you. This just proves that only uneducated niggers vote for Leave.

>>74082978
Oh trust me it's working really well. You don't know what things we still have in our pipeline. Brexit will never happen.
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@74083365
@74083068
@74082608
@74082265

You do realize this individual is just shitposting to harvest (You)'s right?
Just highlight over the ID, click on the arrow next to the post number and then select 'Filter selected text'

It's not that hard.
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>>74082156
He's a pathetic fat fucking pinko, though.
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It'll be Scotland 2.0 - the cuck vote will tip the result to 49/51 in remain's favour, and if it doesn't, we'll hear some rumours about a few hundred ballots being quietly shredded to make sure that we stay in.

Should we vote to get out? Yes, of course, if you don't want to leave the EU you're a shill. Will we actually leave? Probably not, cucks are coming out of the woodwork in droves to stay in the EU for some reason. At my uni I can't walk down any student street any more without seeing an EU flag in the windows of some house.
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>>74084128
Throw a brick through the window
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You know pensions are the most expense to a country
Did you know that a 65 year old pole can move to England and claim a British pension when it's due.
Leaving EU would stop this madness and save billions just on pension contributions.
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>>74084128
This

At least one Brit is not totally retarded and understand reality.

Pic related
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>>74084385
The problem is for years the Scottish had been drilled and believed in the United Kingdom. British people have little to no allegiance to the EU flag.
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>>74084623
A united Europe is the future. A few angry neets won't destroy it
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>>74084385
Imagine all those old geezers coming back from Mallorca and storming the UK health system with arthritis, hip implants and diabetes.

It will be like our hospitals right now with all the refugees taking up time and space.
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>>74084274
Believe me I would, but it will only make them vote even harder to stay in because they'll make a stupid hastag about it and get 10k fresh in votes just by putting it on their facebook or whatever.

>>74084385
I don't like you, but I think you're right about us staying in. I will vote to leave, but I've curbed my expectations. It would take a big terrorist attack, Greece imploding or some kind of other happening to tip the result in favour of leave. Even then it would likely be very close.
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>>74084385
>this

that post was pro-brexit

you have been arguing for the other side the whole thread

tard
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>>74084385
So the amount of Brits throughout the EU is about what Germany accepts in immigrants each year?
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>>74085120
Literally all the people in power from UK are against leaving.

How can you deny reality so hard? What is wrong with your brain?
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>>74085120
Dude just stop responding, that Swiss autist is in literally every Brexit thread.
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>>74085327
>>74085327
>Literally all the people in power from UK are against leaving.

Why would anyone care what a gang of globalist shills and Jews think?
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>>74085327
Actually, you're wrong there. The entire UKIP party is for leaving, as is roughly 40% of the conservative party's MPs and higher members. There are even some Labour MPs who want out.

Just look it up. Seriously, google will tell you you're wrong on this one.
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Anglo is all about being cucked by an old hag.
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>>74085294
>each year?
I assure you Merkel will not stay in office if she doesn't prevent another million from arriving this year.
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>>74085446
Oh my god, it's like talking to a fucking wall. A cockroach has a higher IQ than you.

>>74085449
I said everyone with power is against leaving.
If the UKIP had power, UK would be out already be now.
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>>74085327
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>>74084859
Democractic, Accountable government... The EU is neither.
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>>74085497
You didn't think this post through, did you?
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>>74085653
dodgy dave is hated by many...corbyn is hated by many and is well documented on being euro skeptic

boris is well liked and is pro leave

national racism of the muslims is in our favour...farrage is seen as a voice of reason here and is campaigning for out also

we are leaving mate....all the articles left and right even the fucking green party page is full of leavers.

im gonna put a bet on im that certain
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>>74085664
Pic related. Even McDonell is against it.

>>74085869
Democracy is not for stupid people.
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>>74085327
because we have a little something called optimism, and fighting spirit, something your country wouldnt know anything about
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>>74086032
>he thinks people care about McDonnell
Embarrassing. The man is toxic.
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>>74084859
>Stay in jail to change jail
Why?
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>>74085869
>commited genocide all arround the world
>anglo not barbarian
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>>74086032
>Even McDonell is against it.

lol so fucking what?
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