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How do you argue with retards that constantly use this picture to defend illegal immigrants?
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How can you compare a bunch of warring tribes who had no real predefined borders or legal system, with an actual established country with laws and borders?
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>>74057751

Ask them what military assertion of sovereignty is.

The injuns put up a fight didn't they?

Well they got their asses kicked. Boohoo.

Then if you really want to trigger them, tell them that the refugee invasion to Europe is a lot like a military invasion and that we need to fight them off and sink the boats.
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>>74057751
Point out that it wasn't illegal because it wasn't against the law
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>>74057751
>Cherokee aren't even in the right spot
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>>74057751
That picture proves that foreign cultures never assimilate and don't care if your culture whithers and dies out, especially if you are apparently 'weaker' than them
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Why do people have a massive need to defend barbarians?
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>>74057891
/thread.
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Jewish morality - your people are more important than other peoples.
"the poor of your city first."
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>>74057816
native here. how is this supposed to trigger me?

also we got our asses kicked by the common cold, flu and various other diseases

give credit where credit is due
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>>74058026
It blows my mind that white people have lost their in-group preferences.

Pretty much the only group of people in the world that can do something so abnormal (with the exception of peoples like the Poles or Hungarians).
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>>74058062
we?
How fucking old are you?
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>>74058062
memes.
You got your shit pushed in for years before we got fed the fuck up and poisoned your asses so you'd move off our land.
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>>74058062

>give credit where credit is due

Some of yall got angry and tried fucking with the whites like the guy who kept hacking up the telegram cables in the Rockies or the crazies who thought they could fight muskets with bow and arrow.
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>>74057751
>How do you argue with retards that constantly use this picture to defend illegal immigrants?

I don't argue with women, i only fuck them.

Arguing with a girl is silly.
God gave them tits and hips instead of a brain for a reason.
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>>74057751
Not all immigration is the same, smart white freedom loving Germanic protestants are very much different from economic statist immigrants.
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>>74057751
Remind them that Chief Shitting Deer never lost his job to an Aztec.
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>>74058114
yeah and 6 GORILLION jews died in the holocaust

victors write the history. come on now this is logic 101
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>>74057751
You don't. You build a wall.
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>>74058096
>It blows my mind that white people have lost their in-group preferences.
Stop watching so much Molyneux, it's not good for you.
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the redskins magically appeared in north america? no they illegally immigrated also. indians are illegal intruders. just because they arrived before the "white" man doesn't mean north america is their land.
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>>74057751
If illegal immigration destroyed the native Americans, then it's a bad thing. Why do you want bad things to happen?
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>>74057751
>So you support the annihilation of native americans and forcing them onto reservations?
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>>74058159
that's the inherit warrior spirit in natives. what i've learned is you have to know when you've lost the war and regroup
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>>74057751
The native americans didn't just lay down and let foreigners overrun their land, THEY FUCKING SHOT THEM.
So now whites should emulate their example.
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>>74057751
The natives (or whatever) "let in" a bunch of illegal Europeans and now their culture is reduced to a few alcoholics and casinos. So we should learn absolutely nothing from history and flood the US with Mexicans until American culture is reduced to a few alcoholics and casinos.
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>>74058254
if you believe that then you have to believe that mankind decends from africa/niggers

which is ridiculous
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>>74057804
All Indian tribes had a home-range and a territory, i.e. borders and legal systems.
European pastoralists just 'outmanoeuvred' them because the Indian way of life was inferior. It's a great modern example of what happened in Europe and Asia during the Neolithic.
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>>74057751

By saying "If you want this to happen again keep allowing illegal immigration."
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>>74057816
>injuns didn't put up a fight

Well the Americans and Europeans are hardly putting up a fight while they are being invaded. I guess that means it's ok if America and Europe are invaded then since the invaders are welcomed with open arms.
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>>74058234
I'm not a big Memeneux fan, but he probably described the situation best.
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>>74057751

Tell them they are supporting the native american genocide by being for illegal immigration.
If the indians had a wall they may have stood a chance.

But instead they literally had NO BORDERS
and now they are all dead, drunk, or inhabiting casinos.

Indians got cucked.
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>>74058254

This also means that the USA is not white man's land, enjoy your reconquista by the spanish, you will not be able to fight against their reproductive power.
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>>74058452

We will gas them soon enough.

>>74058308

Defeat is never a nice thing.

Must feel ironic watching us getting invaded now.

Which reservation do you live on and get drunk at regularly?
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>>74058451
do you honestly expect them to say anything other than "I hope it does!"?

The hatred for white culture is deep in the mind of the young blanco.
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>>74057751
Well look what the immigrants did to the natives. You think it wont happen again?
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>>74058489
>I'm not a big Memeneux fan, but he probably described the situation best.
But he's so long winded, how can you obtain any useful information from him?
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>How do you argue with retards

You don't. When you disprove them, they just repeat themselves louder and louder while making threats towards anyone who agrees with you. Instead of arguing with libtards, just work hard in spite of them and accomplish things. Rebuild the world from the ground up and make humanity great again.
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>>74057751
This video is an effective tool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OKUmjQZTzA

>>74058234
>germany
>giving anybody advice
Hans, don't you have a sexual emergency to attend to?
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>>74057804
Actual evidence taken from explorers of the time say that the tribal "wars" usually involved individuals or small groups and basically never involved the whole tribe. The western brand of was not recognizable in the country and they respected territories and trade networks.

They did have established land and sovereignty but they did not have individual property rights. Secondly, it would be impossible for them to exist as a nation or own property in the western legal sense because they were isolated and therefore did not have acess to Spanish or British lawyers and records.

Your argument is a poor justification of land theft and has been used by States to steal land from indigenous populations, including Caucasians.

It is possible that eventually an aggressive and barbaric enough tribe would eventually rise and conquer the other tribes, thus "uniting" them, but for the most part, it simply was not the same as western conquest which was far more brutal and barbaric and therefore successful.

You are just making the argument "might is right", fair enough buy no need to pretend like there were any formal or legal reasons to justify the conquest. It was standard issue aggression and terrorism.
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>>74058582

Having an attention span longer than 5 seconds.

Jesus do you people not manage to read books anymore?
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>>74058553
lol. i grew up in north dakota with all whites (german heritage). i'm in denver now

had I grown up on the rez i wouldn't have gotten an education and would be more of a savage
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>>74058582
This one was quick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9gjZpG_03A
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>>74058731
>fifty million screaming retards everywhere you go
>all talking at the same time and inflating their jewtubes with filler talk
>HOW DARE YOU NOT HAVE ENOUGH ATTENTION SPAN FOR MEEEEE

The internet in a nutshell.
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>>74058695
>Your argument is a poor justification of land theft and has been used by States to steal land from indigenous populations
>It was standard issue aggression and terrorism.
>It is possible that eventually an aggressive and barbaric enough tribe would eventually rise and conquer the other tribes

If you're going to play the high card, don't denote any civilisation as barbaric. Makes you look like a hypocrite. Might is right, always was, always is.
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>>74057751
I explain to them the definition of the word "conquest" and then tactfully let them know that I don't want my country conquered and culture destroyed by foreign invaders in the same way my ancestors did it to the injuns.

My ancestors took this country, and as their descendant, it falls to me to keep the damn thing.
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>>74057751
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It wasn't immigration, it was an invasion.
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>>74058851

I don't know if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me, but watching how people literally have the attention span of birds these days is horrible. Every few seconds they snap their heads in a new direction and look at something else.

I'm surprised people manage to sit through 2 hour movies without going on their phones.

>>74058827

Did you study at university?

Where does your family live?
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>>74057751
point out that 90% of those tribes killed each other to extinction.
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>>74058731
Are we talking about the same Molyneux?
Even a book can't be full of jibberish, as a reader, you lose interest if you don't present a point, then an explanation. Molyneux does it in reverse, and sometimes not at all.
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>>74059004
>attention span of birds these days is horrible

Same quantity of attention divided between a vastly larger number of objects.

Anyone typing the words 'attention span' unironically is just assdestroyed over their own complete failure to become interesting. Nobody gives a shit what I say either, but I have gotten past my phase of crybabying about it.
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It wasn't America then.

We named it. It was just a landmass before we got here and built stuff.

Bad shit happened. It always does. There's no such thing as a group without bloodshed. White people are the only ones in the world who feel guilt, and we're going extinct because of it.

If we let the browns/blacks take over the Asians will just slaughter them like dogs and take their shit again.

The Red Chinese will have a valid reason to kill all of them, if they destroyed their previous host.

And they have a lot less compassion.

I love watching the Chinese devour Africa like the Mega Maid from Spaceballs. And I love hearing that they miss white people.

Whitey's greatest weakness was our compassion and emotion. It serves us well at home, but internationally it makes us easy puppets to shitheads like Mandela.
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>>74057751
How do idiots like you reconcile with the fact that people could come and go across the US border as they pleased before the 1900s?

There was no such a thing as an illegal immigrant.
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>>74059099
Some books are written to be not-read, or in some cases written correctly and then edited to be not-read.

Don't run around talking wrong then screaming because nobody listens to you.
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>>74059099

I think Molyneux gets trapped in the broken record of needing to emphasize the same thing 20 different ways.

Many of the things he says just don't enter people's thick skulls, so repetition helps here.

I find his content easy to consume.

>>74059144

Why are you projecting your inability to get people to listen to you onto me.

I am stating an observation about how attention span has diminished.

I've linked friends of mine political articles and some of them say "its too long I can't be fucked to read it" which shows disinterest, but some of them instead want to discuss it with me in person as "reading is too boring".

Seems if your content isn't snipped together into 90 second barrages of information no one listens anymore.
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>>74059151
Azns feel guilt, but only when told to by their direct or grand superiors.
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>>74057751
Ask them why more illegal immigrants helps natives
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>>74059004
>I don't know if you're agreeing or disagreeing with me, but watching how people literally have the attention span of birds these days is horrible. Every few seconds they snap their heads in a new direction and look at something else.
>I'm surprised people manage to sit through 2 hour movies without going on their phones.

And people wonder why marriages fail.

A man is nothing but his will, deep down. If you can not stand still and read, watch a film or not check social media, 99% of which is lies, gossip and posturing, then you have no will and you are nothing.

It is achievement our bodies crave. To build. To work. We deny ourselves this for masturbation essentially. Masturbation of the soul. Doing everything to pleasure ourselves and to make ourselves happy.

I wish I had grown up in the 40s sometimes. America was great then, warts and all.
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>>74059253
>I am stating an observation about how attention span has diminished.

But it hasn't diminished; it's just been cut into more slices. Baby boomers studied basic shit (if at all) then worked on assembly lines. Millennials study STEM (if at all) then work on the development of crucial dynamic systems (if at all.) Any negative shift can be explained immediately by the mass propagation of invasive outsiders.
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>>74059253
>I've linked friends of mine political articles and some of them say "its too long I can't be fucked to read it" which shows disinterest, but some of them instead want to discuss it with me in person as "reading is too boring".

Because they want a headline to tell them what to think. Which is good, because a headline is the easiest thing to spin.
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>>74059227
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ANYONE who types 'attention span,' for any other reason besides calling the term out, is a fucking crybaby.

You didn't get what you didn't earn, then you cry about it instead of earning it. Noticing is for the noteworthy.
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>>74059448
>pictured: people who write shitty books
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>>74059253
>I think Molyneux gets trapped in the broken record of needing to emphasize the same thing 20 different ways.
>Many of the things he says just don't enter people's thick skulls, so repetition helps here.
>I find his content easy to consume.

This is fine if he was a teacher, teaching a subject. But Molyneux an internet youtuber, picking one way to convey a message is enough. People can just play it back.
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>>74059522
Molyneux is a cult, I have no idea who he is but dark-memers are hooked on him like he's heroin. If they wanted to spread their message then they should stop typing pure shit.
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>>74058731
i don't have enough time in the day to sit through even a fraction of the hours and hours of word salad he spews out every waking moment
last one i watched was the one with helmuth nyborg
i'd rather actually sit down and read a book desu
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>>74058099
We as in our people
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>>74058963
That was just the island of Manhattan wasn't it?
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>>74059058
So, there was no need for the white man to do it? Or bring disease? Cool. You guys are totally off the hook.
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>>74057751
Just ask them why they are so okay with applying the blood and soil bullshit when it is used against whitey.
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>>74057751

Native americans are the reminder to always have a work animal, no exception, otherwise you're fucked forever
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doesnt that pic just prove that not only should you have borders but to protect the shit out of them? Seems like a really poor argument for the gay left bullshit.
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>>74060443
their basis for reasoning isn't logic, it's "whitey bad"
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>>74059330

I'm not surprised at all.

>then you have no will and you are nothing.

Agreed.

>It is achievement our bodies crave.

But isn't societal praising of long standing marriages and tightly knit families a positive reinforcement then for people to stay with the same partner over long periods of time?

Each day we learn a new cause for why people today are so shallow.

>>74059372

How has it been cut into more slices?

People decide how to allocate their attention and have bad discipline doing this (i.e. short spans of attention being allocated as opposed to lengthy ones).

If there are more things available to distract yourself with, we could measure an increase in distracted people, but at the same time its bad self-discipline to be unable to allocate your attention properly.

>>74059387

Getting people who are more interested past headlines is rare these days.

>>74059522

>People can just play it back.

You'd be surprised how few people actually replay something. They'd prefer hearing the same thing 30 times, formulated just a little differently. I have no problem scrolling back a video in order to hear something again, but seems even for something as easy as rewinding most people are too lazy/uninterested.

They have an expectation that the content provider will accommodate for their inability to consume content.

>>74059730

The Danish professor interview was great.
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>>74057751
They had laws?
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>>74057751
Replace indian faces with buffalo faces
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>>74057751
Did Indians have countries with immigration laws Europeans broke?
-No.

Well, then it wasn't illegal for them to immigrate.
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>>74057751
Illegal immigration lead to genocide of the natives

What more needs to be said? Their own argument works against them.
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>>74057751
I think it's a good thing those terrifying giant 80s rocker heads are gone
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>>74059215
And back in those days you could buy heroin down your local shops and fuck a 12 year old, times change.
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and then they all died.
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>>74057751
Say wow thats beautiful
> Shame all of those corporations invited all of those people in to use as tools for their international market. Wouldn't it be great to not keep adding to that. (like all of those "redneck" anti-corp anti-big gov types living closer to the NA way of life than any urbanite)
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>>74057751
Why? They are already arguing against themselves.

Also legal or illegal doesnt matter, if you are stronger you take what you want. The only rules that can ever by true or right are rules of nature, everything else is made up shit. Nature, in general, doesnt tolerate inferiority.
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>>74057751
Isnt that more of an argument against illegal immigration?
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>>74057751

Simple, let them know that you don't care about that, that it's benefitted you and others for so long that it is a meaningless argument that only the kind of pissed off manchild or little girl who gets mad about the crusades would care about, and second when they respond with well then why is it bad that we suffer the same fate, invite them to ask themselves why they don't value their own culture and lives and why they think that racist groups like la raza and gangs like the latin kings should be permitted to kill off whites when we have the advantage right now to prevent that happening, if they don't like it or freak out about it, hit them, if their nose retains it's shape hit them again until it stops doing so.
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