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Does he not have a point /pol/? Why not lift instead of supporting
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Does he not have a point /pol/? Why not lift instead of supporting Jew gun manufacturers?
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>>74050780
So women, children and the elderly can go fuck themselves essentially?
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>guns are the tools of the weak

Then someone strong should ABSOLUTELY want guns, because it stops weak people from easily topping them.
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>>74050780
My friend could bench press 400 lbs, and squatted 700 lbs. Then he got shot and died.
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It's a masterstroke of advertising that this retard can pose as an intellectual.
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henry rollins is an idiot

and lol no one lifts for self protection
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>>74050780
Is this guy fucking daft?

Who the fuck hits the gym for self protection? Nobody.
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>>74050780
My 9mm will penetrate your gains. 12-18" of penetration beats five inches of pectoral muscle.
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>>74050780
It's a stupid false dichotomy. You can do both. The only reason he would argue this is because he is butthurt about guns.
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>"I need a military grade assault rifle to protect me from the big bad gov-"
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So this is what sub 90 IQ looks like
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>>74050780
Henry Roidman should go live in Detroit for a while. I think he'd enjoy it
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Yeah, wouldn't want children able to defend themselves against your child-raping ass, right faggot?

Seriously, anytime you come across an anti-gun male, just openly accuse him of being a child rapist who doesn't like the idea of kids shooting him when he attempts rape.
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>>74050918
/thread
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>>74050780
The only person who doesn't need guns is Batman, who is a fictional character.
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Yeah, that 12 year old girl who shot an intruder who was gonna rape her is such a pussy. She should of worked out more and rekt the 6'2 nigger with one punch
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>>74050780
>T. Chang Wufei
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>Less steel, more flesh. The strong don't need swords. Swords are the tools of the weak. This is true. If you disagree with me, it's ok, you're wrong - Thulsa Doom
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>>74050780

This is the MTV time-fill where that came from:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9dj13M5cgY

There are so many contradictions in his statement but I'm sure you guys will work them out. I'm going to bed.
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>if you disagree with me, you are wrong

Well, solid argument. No rebuttals.
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I have no problem with hand to hand combat but if I am being shot at, you can be sure I will be shooting back.
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>>74050983
>9mm
>Penetration
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>lift
>be big guy
>nigger shoots you before you can throw him out of the plane
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>>74050983
I've seen people take down someone with a gun with mere physical strength. Just wear a bullet proof vest or arm yourself with a knife.

Many pro NRA shills have argued that knives are just as dangerous as guns so one should easily be able to protect themselves if they have the brawn, brain, and proper knife.
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>>74051056
Nigga thinks he's Superman and can overthrow the world by flexing.
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>>74051101
Children don't carry or own guns you retards.
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>>74050780
No hes a retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YyBtMxZgQs
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>>74051056
>it's a retard thinks drone strikes are effective in urban combat post
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>>74051056
>Live in high latitude mountainous area
>mfw
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>>74050780

Let see how strong he is. Get a gun and challenge him to a fight. See who wins.
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>>74051056
Our big bad gov can't even beat the rock throwing, illiterate Taliban.
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>>74050873

Exactly. He's a moron. Only males at their peak would be "strong" according to him. Barbarian thinking.

Women, the elderly, those naturally "less strong" need an equalizer to protect themselves from the knuckledragging "strong"
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>>74050780
>Does he not have a point /pol/?

Of course he does. The weak, poor and afraid go to weapons like they always have throughout history.
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>>74051215
I CC a Glock 20. You make me laugh.
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>>74050780
Work smarter not harder
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>>74050780

P.S. Guns are tools invented using brains which have often been used to defend people with more brains than their attackers.
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>>74050780
>spend years at GYM
>HURR I'MMA BEAT YOU IN FAIR FIGHT

>spend years at RANGE
>DURR YOU CAN'T USE THAT, DAS COWARD

Fuck off Henry, if you want to spend lifetime getting buff then that's your fucking problem, you still can't outrun the bullet you weakling.
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>>74050780
How ironic you totally missed his point. He mentioned brains not brawn.
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>>74051246
Doesn't matter. A person who wishes for disarmament clearly has bad intentions on his mind.
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I never slept easier than the night after my fiance learned to shoot, that's all I'll say.
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>>74051215
>Just wear a bullet proof vest
They're heavy
You're still going to get fucked up by a non penetrating shot
They lose strength
They can't stop much without plates, which break after a few shots or less
Gun reaches farther than a knife
Knives are just as dangerous when you're going after unarmed people
>>74051246
They can in Vermont and Utah
>>74051368
Allahu akbar!
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>>74051215
Want to know how I know your full of shit?
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>lift all life
>get shot
>die

well played
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>>74051287
>spurdo rule 34
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>>74050780
Rollins is a fucking manlet, opinion nullified. What the fuck is up with manlets like Rollins & Joe Rogan acting as if they're fucking philsophers when they're just manlets. It's like give it up already. No amount of macho posturing is going to suddenly make you manly. Do the right thing and just kill yourselves.

The only reason why Rollins hasn't gotten his shit pushed in yet is because nobody wants to look like a bully picking on a man who's as short as a kid.

>>74050918
LOL! It's funny because it's true. Guns are the great equalizer.
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>>74050780
>"if you disagree with me, it's okay, you're wrong"
>le muscular, tattooed alpha enlightened liberal man
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>>74050780
Rollins is just a beauhunk who doesnt have the cajones to question modern liberal norms.
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>Armed nig rolls up into your home
>Bro, I don't need that shit. check out these guns *flexes*
>Nigger shoots homeowner & rapes his children

No.
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You know what I've gotten really tired of the pro gun and the anti gun people because logic has completely left the building on BOTH sides all it turns into is a contest of insults, and emotion driven arguments about children from both sides.

Both sides put up these brick walls of
>this about the children
or
>shall not be infringed

and don't have any fucking dialogue. Both sides are fucking retarded. I'm moving to fucking Canada where this bullshit doesn't go on.
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>>74051056
We do, we also should be able to buy tanks, drones, nuclear warheads
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>>74051215
>just carry a bullet proof vest every time you leave the house.
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>>74051469

This.
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>>74050780
Stfu Rollins you putz
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>>74051179
underrated
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>>74050780

If you listen to more than one of Henry Rollins' interviews/monologues, and have a brain, you will immediately realize that this man will say whatever he thinks will get him approval

He's basically an old school SJW, pre-Millennial
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>>74051483
ay bby
>>74051546
Nutnfancy approved
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Is it true that Rollins is a queer? He should go out with Dwayne The Rock
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>>74051056
>Rebellion would be attack government building
>Government building are in suburbs/urban area

The entire planet isnt flat deserts
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>>74051343
>implying being a knuckle dragging barbarian is a bad thing
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>>74051520
Only white trash thinks that arming yourselves up the asshole will protect your home and family.

Get a fucking proper security system built and don't live in a trailer.
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>>74051537
Do you honestly think things are differen in Canada. Fool.
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>Less bullets, more brains
>somehow lifting for self defense (topkek) is smarter than utilizing technology
>Implying muscle can save you from multiple attackers, knives, blunt weapons etc.
>Women and children shouldnt be able to defend themselves

I know this is bait, but some retard 'Henry Rollins' actually seriously made that little pic.
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>>74051640
No. He has trust issues from having a fucked up childhood, and he's bad with women because he was socialized in a military school. He hates guns because his best friend was murdered in front of him by LA niggers.
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>>74051684

Security system is only a first line of defense.
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>>74051684
Sure. Just wait 30 minutes for the proper authorities to arrive. What could happen??
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>>74051626

I wouldn't say that completely. Growing up as a genXfag, I saw him as bringing some measure of responsibility and self-discipline to the alternative subculture (which lacked it, which I saw by being a part of it, people were dropping acid all the time in 1991 and all that).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbnFJVgBcw0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdHAtvlpeRs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkvEpoqFx6c
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>>74051179
10/10
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>>74051684
Fine,I am white trash but you're a buffet if/when the police in your city decide not to respond to the little ding ding system you pay for.
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>>74051684
>Someone really wants to kill you
>Breaks into your house
>BEEP BEEP BEEP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Police will take a few minutes
>Shoots/strangles/rapes/stabs you
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>>74051684
>Walking in the woods
>Moose/mountainkitty/skinwalker
Good thing I had that security system. Can it make my windows indestructable too and boobytrap people before they enter?
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>>74051684
Just live in a community with no niggers, I live in a community that is all white and never lock anything up, everyone respects each others property here
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>Guns are the tools of the weak

The meek will inherit the earth.
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>>74051954
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>>74051823
He lifts weights because he has OCD.
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>>74050780
>hey guys, look how cool and manly I am, I get in fights and value the lives of other's over my own famiy's
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>>74050780
>guns are the tools of the weak

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=anEuw8F8cpE

I'd say they're the tools of the winners. It's a matter of perspective.
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>>74051179
/thread
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>>74051684
Not if you work harder and get that promotion and install a panic room.
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>>74050780
Rollins is an insecure asshole. Nobody should listen to him about anything.
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>>74050780
>Shoots Rollins dead

Right...wrong....I'm the guy with the gun.
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>>74051179
Since swords and guns are the same thing. Nice red herring retard. If anything swords are an extension of strength. Anyone can pick up a gun.
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>>74051056
The only way the government could get to you is through the cops, they're not going to send a fucking reaper to your apartment. Guns are for protection from a police state.
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>>74050780
That's true.
But everyone has a gun, what are you gonna protect yourself with when your opponent has a gun? Your fucking biceps?
Get real.
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>>74051546
Oh and strapping an AK-47 to your shoulder and carrying that fucker around is just as efficient.

>Open Carry logic
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>>74052132
A weakling could still stab you in the back. Do you even rogue?
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>>74050780
People like him are favorite fuckboys of our gopnicks (street thugs)
It doesnt matter how strong you are if there is 3+ attackers with knives.
But for this particular idiot, a kid with simple pepper-spray would be enough.
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>>74052010
They are. Wealthier people live in safer areas,m with better access to state or commercial paramilitary forces to protect them.
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>>74050780
>be in Paris
>go to a concert
>some terrorists who also happen to be Muslims but that's irrelevant shoot up the place
>I've been lifting for this moment
>7.62 rounds come flying towards me
>my bench press has prepared me
>flex my giant chest absorbing the Kenetic energy from the bullets
>this enrages the poor Asian man who has lost his family due to American bombs
>I can see he is reaching critical levels and will soon explode
>enter the squat position with perfect form
>thighs almost ripping my spandex cycling shorts
>they absorb shock wave after shock wave of the blast
>shrapnel falls impotently to the ground
>suddenly their is a blade at my throat
>thank god I didn't skip my neck extensions
>my vascular neck expands beyond a size it has any right to be
>his scimitar is instantly blunted and he surrenders on the spot
>I give him a hug for being a proud minority who was brave enough to stand up for what he believes in
>accidentally crush his rib cage
>executed for racial assault
>it's what I deserve
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>>74051684
>Get a fucking proper security system built
>he fell for the security system scam

You people are so incredibly oblivious

Fuck poor people, right? I mean when someone breaks into your house you should absolutely under no circumstance defend yourself or your loved ones, that's the police's job!

Fuck taking of yourself!
Fuck responsibility!
If you die, who cares? Just another number in the homicide data filed under "growing pains"
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>>74052183
You could stop fucking mass producing guns like candy, limit bullet capacity, grandfather old style guns in and stop the gun manufacturers from making even more technologically advanced guns for the public.
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>>74052188
Feels good, man.
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>>74052277
kek
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I have a hard time taking anti-gun people seriously because they've rarely or never lived in areas as bad as I have.
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>>74052300
>Limit bullet capacity
How does this change the millions of standard cap mags in circulation?
How does it prevent anybody from making their own? (Hint: Magazines are a box with a spring in the bottom)
How does this make them any less deadlier?
How does stopping mass production do anything about the millions already in circulation?
How does it prevent people from making their own?
Name a recent technological advancement that makes guns significantly more deadlier than they were.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clW2jtv6qFc
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>>74050780
I have heard time and time again that the NRA is weak when it comes to influence compare to anti gun organizations but then there is shit like this...

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/24/opinion/the-senate-defers-to-the-nra.html?_r=0

Also if the Republican majority of the Senate is so anti gun free zones, then why is Congress itself a gun free zone? You would think they would want to make congress itself open to arms.

Such blatant hypocrisy and NRA dick sucking.
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Guns turn you boys into pussies, sex change
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>>74052132
It still takes strength to pick up a gun and pull a trigger, even if it's just a little bit, your muscles are still being used. Anyone can pick up a sword, dagger or knife and use it. Also, nice of you to ruin a good joke.
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>>74052454
It limits the abilities of spree shooters to commit mass shootings your retard.
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>>74052132

In every thread there is at least one autist, lurking, preying, waiting for his time, to strike.
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>>74050780
No matter how strong you are. If a weak man has a gun he's automatically stronger than you.
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>>74052499
The senate does that because the NRA goes to them and says

>this is how many of your constituents will not vote for you if support this bill

It's honestly democracy. A lot of people are single issue on the 2a
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>>74052530
That's like someone from /v/ saying they exercise because they pick up a controller and press buttons. Don't be that autistic anon. I've fired a gun and I never fucking work out, it takes no strength whatsoever.

The only thing you have to worry yourself over is the ringing in your ears depending on what type of gun you fire.

I'm not anti gun, I just think it's ridiculous how far we've gone with the guns for everybody campaign.
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>>74050780

Freedom is often achieved over tyrannical regimes and invading forces through FISTICUFFS.
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>>74052455
Based kid.
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>>74052442
>I have a hard time taking anti-gun people seriously because they've rarely or never lived in areas as bad as I have.

This is it.

I moved downtown and all of a sudden, I was getting accosted late at night by assholes starting shit with me. Always hassling me or looking for a fight or something. I seriously felt insecure and get myself a telescoping baton. Can't get a gun for concealed carry in Canada. If I could, I would. Anti-gun guys must live in the leafy, peaceful burbs to feel the way they do.
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>>74052300
> limit bullet capacity
You already did that, retard
A dedicated person with a bolt action rifle could do a ton of damage easily

Literally everything in your post has been done before and literally none of it works because the only people you limit from having guns are good people who obey laws
Even if guns aren't manufactured in the US they find ways to get into the US, same with drugs and people

Your ideas are retarded and so are you, I suggest you learn about guns so you can confidently purchase one and practice with one clean shot out the back of your mouth
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>>74050780
Yeah, okay Henry.

While you're screaming and writhing like an epileptic onstage, guys far stronger and manlier than you are doing things you'd never have the fortitude to do.
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>>74052157
Robotics are right around the corner
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>>74050780
Pretty stupid thing to say. You can be the most badass fighter in the world but you'll still be vulnerable to bullets.
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>>74050780
if he's so strong and tough why is he so afraid of guns?
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>>74052499
>wahhh why won't you ban the bill of rights

>>74052533
>muh mass shooting

mass shooting are a tiny percent of homicides.

want to stop murder? ban niggers.

>>74052673
>I'm not anti gun, you just shouldn't be allowed to own guns that hurt my feelings

>I'm not anti free speech, just just shouldn't be allowed to say things that hurt my feelings

fuck off
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>>74052499
Please read your source. It was a comment on the probability of a certain type of judge being elected, nothing official in the least.
>>74052533
Which part are you replying to?
Smaller mags wouldn't do much, since reloading doesn't take long and millions of normal capacity mags are already available, and, as I said, they're very easy to make.
One shot can kill you just as dead as thirty.
People can already buy one of the hundreds of millions of guns in circulation, stopping production wouldn't remove access or even make a noticable impact on it.
What recent technologies make guns so much more deadlier?
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Because no amount of lifting will save you from a gun
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>>74052285
It's definitely an acute form of class warfare.
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>>74052533
Oh, and just because I can, it's "You retard." Not "your retard," since I assume that's not a signature.
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>>74052188

...actually, it is. It's about 400 dollars cheaper, a fifth of the size, and easily ten times lighter.

>dat pistol doe
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>>74050873

Yes. Welcome to America.

>b-but muh women and chilluns!
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>>74052625
I single issue 2a voters thought logically they would vote Republicans for Senate and Democrat for President, because more gun control was passed under George W. Bush and Reagan than Obama. If you have a Republican Senate and a Republican President they look the other way, but if you have a Republican Senate and a Democratic President the two are naturally expected to butt heads.

So why don't 2a one issue voters vote rationally by voting for a Senate and a President that are in conflict, rather than voting straight Republican?
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>>74052765
This.
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>>74050780
shill thread, sliding discussion of the election and vote fraud and global political happenings
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>>74052744
They'd rather blow their assailants and then pretend it was the sensible,manly thing to do. Kind of like this Rollins thing. It just demonstrates that they have no clue about the world around them.
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>>74050780
Who?
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>>74052687
Imagine if it was though. Imagine all the tyrannical regimes were toppled and we went full Bunraku, but to the point were all wars henceforth were decided by brawls. Women would have to train in wing chun and cvcks would lose citizenship.
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>>74052970
>why isn't there a mass movement to elect presidents that say they will institute gun control?
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BAN BOXCUTTERS
IF IT COULD SAVE JUST ONE LIFE.
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>>74052970

Because other people vote, too, and you cannot guarantee that your chosen election is the one you'll win.

Say you vote republican for congress and democrat for president. Only the republican doesn't win the congressional seat. A democrat does. But your guy DOES win the presidency. Then what? You just got a green light for the dems.

Also, you need to think scale, not volume. A literal gun ban was passed under Clinton that took a fucking decade to expire.
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>>74050780
>less bullets, more brains
b-b-but didn't the brains invent guns as a way to not have to lift to eliminate your target?
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>>74052953
People who use women and children in their arguments are literally retard-tier.

It's the most often used example of the logical fallacy of an appeal to emotion.

This applies to both sides of any debate. Stop using the women and children as props in your debate. It's for the weak minded.
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>>74052673
I didn't say it was exercise, though. Try and read what I said carefully. Movement of any kind requires the use of muscles no matter how minute. It takes a certain amount of strength to even walk. It's got nothing to do with working out. If you're ill then you'll notice a decrease in strength and depending on how ill you are you might not even have the strength to get up out of bed. You said swords are an extension of strength, in what way? You pick it up and you swing or thrust, which isn't even hard to do. I picked up a Roman sword just fine when I was 10 years old, you don't need to be Arnold Schwarzenegger to do this.
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>>74053043
>discussion of the election

Hillary will win. This has been sewn up for more than a year.
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>>74053111
They say it, but they fail unlike Dubya and Reagan.
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Isnt Rollins a Bernie supporter?
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>>74053224
Also unlike Clinton, who instituted the 1994 AWB.
>>74053246
He sure sounds like one.
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>>74050780
He absolutely has an point. And as a liberal, he should respect that equalizer. Not everyone can be as one with the ways of the ninja as Rollins. Instead he fatshames, womynshames and differentlyabledshames every person in the world who believes in the right of self defense while being an oppressed class.
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>>74053181

You've never actually fought with a weapon, I see. I used to do spear fighting back in the day. If you think fighting of any kind is easy, let alone with a big steel object, you should probably watch less anime.
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>>74050780
>Anonymous (ID: ZCK9QZmJ) 05/15/16(Sun)02:31:27 No.74051697 ▶
Dumbest shit I've ever heard. You can lift all day and still be out numbered or out-gunned. This guy is a douchebag brotard.
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>>74053181
>>74053181
The art of the sword is much harder to learn and effective to use versus the gun. They are hardly the same thing. Stick to the argument of guns rather than fishing for red herrings.

Red Herrings are beneath us all.
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>>74053275
It's not enough to just HAVE a gun. You have to be able to fit your fat finger in the trigger guard, aim, and not flinch like an emotional wreck.
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>>74053411
Have you every fired a gun?
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>>74053357
You're just missing my point entirely.
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>>74053357
>You've never actually fought with a weapon, I see. I used to do spear fighting back in the day. If you think fighting of any kind is easy, let alone with a big steel object, you should probably watch less anime.

Seriously
>THIS
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>>74050780
>muscles are bulletproof

What a fucking pinhead.
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>>74053357
s-s-spear fighting? More like spear"extra curricular exercises. Quite voluntary. I imagine if anyone in your martial arts class had a gun they'd be the top dog.
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>>74053411
>the art of the sword

I'm sorry but I couldn't resist. Someone else accused me of watching too much anime but this sounds like you're about to pull out a katana to take on a bunch of gun-wielding thugs.
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>>74050780
>1 post by this ID
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>>74053178
I'm aware of that, retard.
>>74050873
on the other hand, is not.
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>>74053448
Indeed I have, I have fired a revolver, a rifle, and a shotgun on multiple occasions. I grew up in the country where every son and even daughter fires a gun at least once in their life. I have never met anyone from my hometown who hasn't fired a gun, it's a rite of passage.


I have also lifted a sword. Anyone can lift a sword... but can you use it? From personal experience firing a gun with aim is much easier than even attempting to strike efficiently and with enough strength to use a sword.

Only an idiot would conflate the two as being equal.
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>>74051749
So he is a faggot.
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>>74053178
Not everything is logical anon. We are human beings and emotion should be part of our logical considerations. It make more logical sense to not overtax yourself emotionally because then it can lead to all sorts of mental problems. The public's emotions should be important to the state, sometimes the general public doesn't know what's best for them but you have to appease them anyway to avoid civil unrest.
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>>74053635
Apparently you have never heard of fencing... not every art has an Asian context you idiot.
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Nowadays you don't go around on the street kicking people, punching people — because if you do (makes gun shape with hand), well that's it — I don't care how good you are.
Bruce Lee interview on the Pierre Berton Show (1971)
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>>74050780
If you're serious about self-defense, you should be physically fit enough to perform a decent grapple, and to have the dexterity to be efficient and effective with your firearm.

fat weeaboos hauling a gun around aren't protecting themselves from anyone.
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>>74053520
Fighting isn't some kind of pinnacle honor sport of manhood. Fighting is fucking retarded. There is no reason for a grown man to lay his hands on another man unless he means to kill him. You either keep your hands to yourself, or you best be willing to kill someone. The in between bullshit is what LARPy martial arts faggots fantasize about. Weapons are for killing, not dancing. Guns are the weapon of our age, not swords, not spears, not clubs, or sharp rocks.
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>>74053705
That's not an argument... That's trying to shut down the argument because

1. You disagree with the OP
2. You don't have an actual argument
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You can always light people on fire.
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>>74050780
> "Some people think they can outsmart me. Maybe, *sniff* maybe."
> "I have yet to meet one who can outsmart bullet."
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>>74053806
>We are human beings and emotion should be part of our logical considerations.

No it really shouldn't. Appeals to emotion are logical fallacies.

But what else should I expect from someone from the nation state of Israel?

Your people name drop the holocaust every chance you get in order to garner sympathy.
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>>74053870

That's the point. Melee weapons are woefully ineffective and expose the wielder to far more risk than is necessary. Not only that, but melee weaponry is heavy and difficult to use effectively. The idea that a club, or knife, or sword or whatever would make a passable alternative to a firearm is pure fantasy.
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>>74053806
Of course the jew among us is going to argue for emotion driven arguments.

Are you JIDFs even trying anymore?
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>>74054049
Yes it should. If you ignore emotions then you should work 24 hours a day without sleep or rest because that's most efficient. If you had that kind of ability to entirely ignore your mental state you wouldn't be here.
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>>74051454

>which break after a few shots
>not wearing steel plates
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>>74050780

>Guns are tools of the weak
That's kinda the point of a force multiplier

>English intellectuals
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>>74053870
>There is no reason for a grown man to lay his hands on another man unless he means to kill him.

Beg pardon?
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>>74051056

If a bunch of mudshits with AKs can stand their ground for 20 years, I'd say that's a valid stance.
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>>74053807
Alright, well, you enjoy fencing with those street gangs, I'm sure they'll appreciate the artistry in it.
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>>74054153
I just want LARPers to stop pretending swords were used because they were "elegant" or some bullshit like that. They were used because they WORKED. Guns are used because they WORK. Every other consideration is irrelevant.
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Exactly! Guns are tools of the weak and oppressed. They allow people to stand up to the powerful and win. Guns are the most democratic tools ever created. Why liberals don't understand this frustrates me.
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>>74053870
>doesn't enjoy fighting
Female detected.
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>>74053870
Why have sports like football then?

They tackle one another without wanting or meaning to kill them?

What about wrestling or boxing?

There is an art behind every weapon.

Are you against every an all competitive sport?

Or is it only okay when played out in the fantasy realm of video games?

I honestly have the most respect for fencing, out of all sports, it takes true technique to master the art.
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>>74054281
Name something you would be willing to be someone up over, but not kill them, and you will reveal immaturity, and that you learn your behavioral models from Hollywood movies. Everything that does not potentially warrant killing can be walked away from. In other words, fighting when death or serious bodily harm is not on the life is a CHOICE. Choosing to fight, but abdicating yourself of deadly consequences is nothing more than ego and muh ducking.

>>74054428
>Enjoys fighting, but is afraid to kill
Mental child detected
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>>74054189
> If you ignore emotions then you should work 24 hours a day without sleep or rest because that's most efficient.

Those aren't emotions you kike, that's called bodily needs. The body can only go so far and do so much before it shuts down or goes crazy.

A car needs gas, just as a human needs a certain amount of sleep in order to function.

Emotion is psychological, sleep is a largely biological need in order for the human body to repair itself. Even your people believe in a day of rest.

JIDF school must really be cutting back on funding if you find this so called argument convincing.
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>>74054707
I can give countless other examples. There's no logical reason why you shouldn't sell your ass if your boss offers to promote you in exchange. "Pride" is just an emotion that could be overcome, after all. My previous example still holds, you can work yourself to the maximum possible limit, yet the fact that you're here instead of building an empire is proof of your hypocrisy.
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>>74054467
Wrestling is what you use to kill someone if you don't have a weapon. Competitive wrestling is hand to hand killing with rules to prevent actual killing. Competitive sports are outlets for aggression and competition for entertainment, that EXPLICITLY remove life and death consequences. Everyone knows the stakes before the engage in the activity. That is nothing like engaging in violence in daily life where not common context is ever known or agreed upon. If I take a fist to another man's skull, I have to accept that I have opened myself up to possibly deadly force. HE doesn't know that I'm just a larpy kung fu faggot who wanted to "defend his honor" or show my manhood, or whatever the fuck retarded reason you can come up with to engage in physical combat with someone over something that doesn't involve life or death stakes.
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>>74054025
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>>74053178
Except it's not an appeal to emotion, it's a fact that they are weaker than men. Do women and the elderly have a right to defend themselves effectively? Yes? Then they need guns, else they'll be overpowered by cavemen.
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>>74054853
>understands the appeal of participating in sport fighting
>calls me a manchild for enjoying sport fighting
You really are something. Maybe I should've said sparring instead of fighting. Street fighting is for shirtless slavs.
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>>74054228
Oh shit, do I fail the gear check?
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>>74055089
I NEVER said I was against sport fighting. I am talking about street fighting, bar brawls, and ego slaps. I think hand to hang training is an important part of self defense. I have been talking about the PURPOSE of violence in real life situations.
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>>74050780
I lift and shoot. Best of both worlds.
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>>74054845
>I can give countless other examples.
If you don't give the examples why brag that you have them?

>maximum possible limit
Human body still needs sleep.

>There's no logical reason why you shouldn't sell your ass if your boss offers to promote you in exchange.

How far exactly are you going to stray in order to "try" to prove your point.

Unless you sign up to be a prostitute, having sex with your superior is not under your job description and no one should be forced to break the contract of their employer, which sex is surely not under, unless you're a prostitute.

Sex would be extra work that is not covered under the job description. How is it an emotional argument to sign up for a particular job with a particular description and say no to something that is not in the job description?

If I get a managerial job and it mentions nothing of mopping up or cleaning and someone orders me to clean up the restrooms I would say "fuck no" because I didn't sign up for that.

You're mixing up legal contracts with emotions, you suck at arguing.

How far exactly do you believe emotions should go in influencing "logic" or laws?

Where do emotional feels begin and were do they end in influencing legislation?

The child molester must surely feel that he should have rights to do as he pleases as does a murdering psychopath.

Emotions don't belong in arguments.
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>>74055483
This has to be damage control mode, I can't believe you're genuinely this retarded.
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>>74054966
>Except it's not an appeal to emotion, it's a fact that they are weaker than men.

Congratulations on affirming what we all already know, that Australians are cucks.

Actually I've met quite a few women who are stronger than men, who work out daily. The standard then shouldn't be women over men but who is truly weaker.
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>>74055651
So says the jew who believes appeals to emotion are valid arguments, go back to defending the holohoax.
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>decide guns are for the weak
>train body day and night to become the ultimate fighting machine
>walking to my car one night
>strung-out dindu shoots me and takes my wallet
>die
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>>74050780
Oh, that must mean every organized military is inherently weak because they use guns and don't naked mud wrestle for their nation's interests.
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>>74051491
>/fit/ height meme

Unless a guy is under 5'5'' they really aren't laughably/noticeably short
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lol he talks a lot of shit, if he said that to me in a bar id glass the cunt, then when hes on the floor bleeding and dazed and confused. ill lean down, and say ''looks like you big arms didn't stop that did they ya cunt, oh and I took you down with out a gun you soft cunt''
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>>74055292
WTF is this Mas Ayoob crap? Sometimes the most efficient path to peace is to whip some douchebag's ass. Or I guess you could spend six months in a court case against him before for slapping your girl's ass every day and kicking your dog on the way out. Wouldn't want you to take on any unnecessary risk. Wimp.

Guess Rollins was right in your case.
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>>74055800
Do you make it a habit to harass the girlfriends of large men? If you have your shit together, he won't be fucking with your stuff in the first place. Or your could kill him.
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>>74055802
Appeals to emotion are never valid arguments. The existence of emotional needs should be taken into consideration when arguing about human behavior.
I'm just getting baited but I can't stop.
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>>74055938
this is not a real australian, notice the use of cunt is not in the double digits.
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>>74050780
henry rollins is a poseur faggot cockmuncher. SUCHA AN RITATING SELFOBSESSED POSTPUNK YUPPIE

>>74050932
>It's a masterstroke of advertising that this retard can pose as an intellectual.

AMEN
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tell hank thx
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>>74050780
>"Obama isn't going to come for your guns" I said
>"Nobody is trying to get rid of the 2nd Ammendment" I said
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>>74055939
"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent"

If we're going to open ourselves up to civil suits and/or criminal charge, why not just do some scouting work, and torch the guy's car? Why not frame him for a crime, plant drugs in his house and give an anonymous tip to the police? Why not get your girlfriend to give him an opportunity and video tape him assaulting her, and get him on a sex offender list for the rest of his life.

Is someone is truly fucking with you on a repeated basis, there are MUCH better ways to ruin them than brute force.
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>>74050780
Ok, i`m weak. Give me my gun.
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>>74053806
>>74054189
>>74053806
>>74054189
>>74054428
>>74054845
>>74054428
>>74054845
THIS is exactly why I want our country to pull out all support and funding away from Israel.

They don't give a fuck about the U.S.

They only want our money and our defense and it has only harmed us.

I say we should leave Israel to its own devices and see how well it fares. It is far past time we stop wasting American lives and money on a failed experiment. Let Israel stand or fall as they are.

Most of our problems wouldn't exist if both political parties didn't have their lips wrapped around Israel's balls.

I doubt 9/11 would have ever happened. And I can guarantee the Dreidls here that have support from America will lose that support in 20 or so years, people 40 or younger, who hate Israel and their lies, will take charge. No one under 40 here supports Israel.

Kiss the military support goodbye.
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>>74053874
Do you expect an old woman to beat the shit out of an intruder? or to end them rightly with a well placed pommel throw?
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>>74056453
You should also stop funding ISIS and implement sanctions against EU for supporting other terrorist organisations then.
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>>74051389
So I should be able to focus so hard that I can stop incoming bullets with telekinesis?
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>>74056264
Oh my god dude are you that scared of a fist fight? Newsflash is that if you're so scared to trade hands that you'd commit a felony not to do it then you sure as hell aren't going to be useful in a gun fight.

Not every transgression requires trying to ruin someone's life btw. "Taking it outside" is covered under the umbrella of the Educational Beat Down also known as a public service.
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>>74050873

Welcome to nature. equality is a myth.

A 30 year old fit man is also much more likely to have superior reflexes and reaction times, which matter a lot when talking about gun violence.

A strong, fit man can also carry a more potent gun, and wield it more easily(imagine a frail 80 year old or tiny teenage girl trying to handle a .357 with any sort of speed and accuracy under pressure.)


There is no "equalizer". it's just a matter of luck, opportunity and guile.


If guns made everyone equal, we'd see a lot more women and old people in the military
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>>74054707
>he doesn't think there's a chemical aspect to emotion
>he doesn't think
Oh you sweet summer child.

Perhaps woman and children come into account because they are important to the family unit which is the foundation for traditional and proper society, and consequently their safety is legitimately an important consideration. Consider this an example of the fallacy fallacy; the appeal to emotion is there, but so too is legitimate concern with a logical basis.
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Henry Cucklins
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>>74050780
This guy has been an edgemaster his entire life. Nothing he says is meant to be taken seriously.
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>>74050780
Lift all you want; if you charge at a guy who's standing 60 feet away from you and holding an assault rifle, I'm sorry, but you're going to lose every time.

"Less bullets, more brains," in this context, is an oxymoron.

Also Henry Rollins is an edge lord faggot
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>>74056642
>this tool that makes people 90% equal doesn't make them 100% equal so we should ban it.

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good.
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>>74050780
> intruder enters your house with a gun
> you lift so you don't need guns. You're strong
> get shot several times
> bleed to death while your girlfriend gets raped
> guns are for the weak, your last thought as you die on the kitchen floor

Sorry Henry, not buying it.
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>>74050780
It's well known that big muscles make you impervious to bullets, so I agree with this.
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>>74056629
If I start a fist fight, I have already committed to possibly killing the man. That's the main point I've been trying to get across. You don't get to decide if a fight is just an "Educational Beat Down", or a homicide. You could hit him once in the face, and he could die from pavement impact. I approach ALL violence--hand to hand, guns, nunchakus, throwing stars, it doesn't matter--I treat all violence as potential deadly force.

If someone is repeatedly harassing me and mine, and menacing my loved ones, I may very well beat the shit out of him, and if I beat the shit out of him, I may very well kill him, or I may call the police if it's more than just cat calling and kicking my dog. A one-off situation with a stranger, I probably wouldn't if I was confident the situation was already over. If my GF had a problem with it, I'd ask her if she'd like me to kill him for her. What do you think he answer would be? By that point she would already understand my views.
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>>74056642
> A strong, fit man can also carry a more potent gun
The most potent anti-personel gun weights less than 5 kg, lad.
The best pistols weight less than 1,5 kg.

And 500gramm of glock is more than enough for the 100% of non-armored 30 year old fit people in the world.
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>>74050780
December 1991, Rollins and his best friend Joe Cole were accosted by two armed robbers outside Rollins's home. Cole was murdered by a gunshot to the head, Rollins escaped without injury but police suspected him in the murder and detained him for ten hours.[36]
/Bullets wins I guess/
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>>74056835

it doesn't make anyone equal.

just because 2 people both have a gun doesn't somehow make them equal. that's like saying if I picked up a sword, I'd instantly be able to go head to head with a master swordsman who's trained with it his entire life.
Speed, reflexes, nerve, hand eye coordination, general fitness level, training, intellect. there are DOZENS of individual statistics that affect how effective you are with a firearm, and most of them are purely physical.


Sorry, guns aren't magic. they're just weapons. and like any weapon, how effective they are varies WIDELY based on who's using it.


an average couch potato doesn't suddenly become the combat equivalent of a Navy Seal just because he picks up a 9mm.
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>>74050780
>1 post by this ID
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>>74057064
Anything worthwhile in life has an element of risk to it. You risk killing someone every time you drive to work. If you want peace in your life you need to stop rationalizing your wimpiness.
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>>74057249
A man without sword is more not equal to the man with one, than 2 people with swords to each other.

Guns are magic. Anglo is an evil wizard. Purge bernies to the evergreen forests of somalia now.
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>>74057173

You say "1.5 kg" like it;s a feather. that's 3 lbs.


it's not about just lifting it up.


How fast can you grab that 3 lb object off your holster, swing it upward at high speed, stop it's motion at the appropriate angle, then fire an aimed shot.
Again, speed and reflex. no, the gun's weight isn't really an issue when just shooting it at a range.

it is ABSOLUTELY an issue when you're trying to quickly draw and accurately fire it in an emergency situation.


Also, more strength/heavier frame=easier time dealing with recoil
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>>74057352
You're trolling is transparent at this point. No one who is actually tough goes around calling other people wimps.
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>>74050780
This is what women and faggots actually believe.
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>>74057412
> You say "1.5 kg" like it;s a feather.
It`s an average american meal. Even the most disabled can lift that.

> grab swing pull is soo hard
Yeah, and tell me how can the evil man like you distinguish your tacticool shootn` from this.

> recoil of a 9,6g of lead
This is getting retarded on your side.
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>>74050780

Cool story Henry 'the faggot' Rollins. I can barely bench 150, but you try to come in my house, I don't care if 'I'm wrong', you'll be dead.
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>>74052157

>they're not going to send a fucking reaper to your apartment

Wait it up it's comming, and unlike guns it will not be aviable for common folks, just like nuclear weapons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wE3fmFTtP9g
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>>74052132
>If anything swords are an extension of strength
You never used an edged weapon or a gun you retarded faggot.
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>>74050780
I do both
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>guns are a tool of the weak
yeah that's kind of the point dipshit
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>>74057468
Sure they do. It's called tough love, anon. Your wimpiness pains me and I encourage you to fix it. If it gets your goat that's a signal you need to correct that imbalance in your life.

Btw a reason I am against CCW culture is that it creates legally paranoid wimps deathly afraid that even the slightest legal issue will result in the taking of their government okayed pacifier. A lot of the ccw guys had balls before they jumped through the hoops for their permission slip.
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>>74051368
Nice frag
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I like Henry, his work ethic is inspiring as can be. But the guy becomes more SJW the older he gets.
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>>74051749
>He hates guns because his best friend was murdered in front of him by LA niggers.
I...uh... what? Shouldn't he have a problem with niggers then?
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>>74053112
I'd like to take a moment to remind everyone that they let people take over their planes and kill everyone because they were afraid of fucking box cutters.
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>>74057972
Did you wander in here from fit?
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>>74058121
>actually believing the """official story"""
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>>74050780
>the strong don't need a gun
>except the government of course.
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>>74051950
where's that at?
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>Less bullets, more brains
kek

It should be "Fewer bullets"
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>>74058121
I'd like to take a moment to remind you that the legend of a Knight Sir Steel-Beams epic fight with al-Jet Fuliz dragon is somewhat plausible only because guns where banned on international flights.

Also not "the kikes" saved their asses from the twins, but the *anglo* kikes.
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>>74051779
invest in your police then holy shit
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>>74058199
I do like /fit but I am a /pol boy at heart :-)
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>>74058461
Hmm, you just remind me of some of their delusional self-image issues.
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>>74053075
This is the most circle jerking post i've sever seen on this board
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>>74050932
THIS

> i don't even mind his music but holy fuck is he ever an idiot
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>>74058520
Guess I should shower between boards.
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>>74058407
When seconds count police are only minutes away, britbong.


>dindu (replace with Kebab for you) breaks into your house
.decides to rape your wife while trying to rob you
>has a knife
"W-wait Mr Dindu, I'm gonna call the police, you can't do anything while they relay the call, get dispatched, and drive all the way here!"
>he wants to rob or rape you/your wife/your kids
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>>74050780
>Why not lift instead of supporting Jew gun manufacturers?
Because muscles don't stop bullets.

>Captcha: CHAD
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A lot of good those brains and muscles did when your friend got blasted by those niggers in LA huh Henry?

You can circlejerk all day about how "REEEEEAL MEN DON'T NEED GUNZ" but Tyrone doesn't give a fuck about what you think "real" masculinity is, and he will blast you in the mouth with his Hi-Point and take your wallet.
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>>74058647
No fucking shit, if a guy's next to you with a knife and wants to kill you you'd be fucking dead etheir way, you're not going to fucking grab your gun and shoot the guy when he's close enough just to fucking stab you
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>>74058407
>City with 2 million people
>Expecting a cop to show up within 5 minutes of alarm sounding to stop the bad guys & rescue everyone before a nigger decides to get all stabby & rapey

Nah. I'll just do the protecting on my end since we're allowed to have more than butter knives in these parts, dad. And laws on the books to protect us legally if we do so. Thanks.
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>>74058802
>Britbong into logic

Jesus christ, the dindu didn't magically appear in your house. Getting into a locked home isn't usually silent, they often break windows or cause some sort of ruckus to let you know you're there. Yes, if you're walking down Sharia Zone #064 in London with your shoulders slumped and your head down and you don't realize someone's creeping up on you, yeah you're not in the best situation, but drawing and shooting on someone coming to stab you is a fuckload of a lot better than just standing there like a chump and getting stabbed to death.
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>>74050780
Hahaha, he talks like lifting can stop bullets penetrating your skin.

What a fucking faggot, I bet he'd cry like a bitch if someone put a gun in his mouth.
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>>74059088

He was held up at gunpoint. He ran like a little bitch while his friend was murdered.
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>>74050780

Most Punk Rock artists are GIANT government bootlickers. I dont know how that happened
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>>74059035
Right, quick question, you're a criminal, you want free shit from someone elses house, presumably you have no job or you wouldn't be doing this shit anyway, so when do you choose to rob the house
After 5 where people are more likely to see you, attempt to kill you
Or before 5 where nobodies home and nobody would see you carrying away shit.
I mean maybe America is just filled with retarded criminals because i know which one i'd pick.
Also enjoy that sweaty NSA dick, Americuck.
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