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I used to be a libertarian until Based Elizabeth Warren changed
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Something about this quote changed my life...

I used to think oh the free market will fix everything and we should lower taxes. Blah blah blah

But what is the free market doing for the poor? We need a social safety net so the capitalist elite don't force them into a life of poverty.

We need to honor our tax system and government so the next generation doesn't live in 1920s America....

Can't believe I actually fell for the libertarian meme. I spent all this money on Austrian economics textbooks and Tom woods memberships....little did I know I was just a bootlicking reactionary idiot....Can't believe I almost voted for trump. If only Elizabeth was running...
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Haha, what a hilarious post, OP
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>>73888028

What's so funny? Seriously
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>>73886977
>You moved goods on roads, paid for my private citizens, built by a private business.

You owe it all to the government - we took the money and gave it to the road people. We get to say how much you get to keep. Totally earned it.
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GOOF
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>>73888242

Lol in libertarian land, only the factory owners will have access to roads and workers will have to pay each time to get on the road ...basically a return to Fuedalism...
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>>73886977
>Fauxcahontas
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>>73888482

Ad hominem...

Wouldn't expect anything less from /pol/ aka tumblr for manlets
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>>73888360
You go too far.

It's just absurd to say that if elected official facilitate building of roads by taking money from citizens and paying some union shop to pave them, they get to confiscate any amount of your wealth or productivity.

No factory owner says "I should pay zero taxes"

But that Elizabeth Warren gets to say "You pay what I tell you to" because roads is absurd.
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>>73888360

One of the great things about Libertarianism is that it's kind of a moron check.

It's really hard to argue against Libertarianism without sounding like a complete idiot, like our friend here.
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>>73888612

/thread
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>>73888798
this, you drive on roads, we that means we get to take over half your income. gee that sounds fair.
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How were you a libertarian but almost voted for trump?
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I supported Trump but I'm a #warrentomahawk now
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>>73888798

Libertarianism is proto fascism...

All of you guys including myself were in love with Ron Paul and wanted him to be president so bad in 2012...

Well now you guys have shown your true colors like all libertarian morons do and your supporting Trump.

So cut the crap..
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>>73886977
>her entire quote is just saying that anarchy is bad
wow so though-provoking
I never considered how important the government was to ensuring the market can function properly
This is literally government 101
They teach you social contract, that the government serves the people. then they list those very services she listed
I don't get what she thinks she's doing
People who want to end the police and road-maintenance are far in the minority
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>>73889007

I needed to leave the right wing echo chamber and enter the real world...

Having to live on your own and without your parents subsidizing you makes you realize how dificult it is to be working class in America.....
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>>73889049
What you say just doesn't seem to pass the smell test

What about Trump's limited policy positions suggest he is in favor of an authoritarian, far right wing government?

If anything, he's pissing off the far right people and the statists in the establishment.

What makes you say Trump is a fascist? Or are you changing the term now (like progressives did with "liberal")
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>>73889269

He is literally Hitler Jr. If you can't see that...I'm sorry but you don't realize how horrifying this time in history is...

Checkout this channel called "Vox" on YouTube....you'll actually learn something for once lol
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Not really a libertard here but the rich and business people pay more taxes that goes into government services

Poor people don't pay shit and middle income rely on the wage the rich provide them
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>>73889360
>He is literally Hitler Jr. If you can't see that...I'm sorry but you don't realize how horrifying this time in history is...
>literally
gr8b8m8
>ABANDONTHREAD
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>>73886977
do dems have anyone who isnt a fraud?

there must be other uber liberal senators to choose from
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>>73889360
>vox
You are a champion troll, eh? Even centre-leftist dismiss Vox as an insano leftist feefees blog
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>>73889156
>I needed to leave the right wing echo chamber and enter the real world...
>starts using vox

I can see wanting to get out of the /pol/ hivemind, but only a troll would say that and then promote an extreme leftist blog like Vox
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>>73889360
2 posts to pull the mask back - my power is increasing.
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>>73888927

>roads magically appear for free
>i shouldnt have to pay taxes to use services that other people pay taxes for

and /pol/ complains about "gibmedats", holy kek
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Can someone explain to me why she always wears these weird semi-popped collars?
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>>73889510
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>>73886977
Implying the 20's weren't the greatest generation in American history...
Fuckin socialist fags
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>>73890102
Because she is goofy. Goofy Elizabeth Warren.
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>>73886977
>Muh Ivy league education
>Muh social contract
>Who pays for roads
>Murica elite intellectuals and politicians

hahahahahaha
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>>73886977

>that pic
Pretty bold statement from someone who has made a living off of funneling MA taxpayer money to the ruling class elite. MA is one of the most corrupt states on the country. This is the state that funded the "big dig" one of the greatest money laundering/funneling schemes known to man.
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Goofy Elizabeth Warren thinks big government solves everything. Sad!
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>>73890012
>implying they spend all of ours taxes on roads and not the vast majority of it on gibsmedat niggers while the military and our infrastructure is falling apart

this is a shitty b8 thread
sage
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>>73886977
>Using spooks to justify a moronic spook
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>>73890231
How much does social security cost? I know about corporate welfare but no serious conservative supports that.
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>>73890231
The rich still pay millions more
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>>73886977
This isn't really a critique of Libertarianism since Libertarianism can theoretically provide for all those mentioned services. Practically, all it is is whining about wanting more in taxes. No business person seriously believes that their business is built in a vacuum and would exist outside modern society. Nobody is arguing against roads or an educated workforce or the maintenance of public order. Nobody is even arguing the need to pay taxes to provide for these things. But there are degrees, and it can be argued that the government greatly oversteps its bounds and wants to do so even more. Stating obvious facts about the society we live in does not change that.
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>>73890231
I'd rather have my taxes go towards strengthening an economy and creating jobs then towards able bodied people who do jack shit all day
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>>73890453

>$36 per person per year on food stamps

pic also very related.

the biggest irony of course is that children like you have probably hardly paid a dime in taxes in your lifetime everywhere. you're a bigger parasite than every nigger combined you worthless faggot. get a fucking job.
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>>73886977
>normal people need to worry about marauding bands
What the fuck is this bitch saying? baka
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>>73890710

You could move to your libertarian wet dream in Somalia any time you wish.

That's her point.

I wonder what's stopping you? Are you worried your assets might not be safe?
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>>73890231
More like: Illegal Aliens cost us 100B annually
Corporations are allowed to dodge taxes in excess of that amount because they are friends with a giant socialist bureaucracy and the IRS leaves them alone in exchange for "Favors" like FB has done for Obama. It's not a coincidence that FB pays 0 dollars on their massive profits every year. It's not a coincidence that Obama pushes as hard as he does for H1b visas.

Socialism and growing the State only makes this worse.
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>>73888360
Factory B will offer road service for free then as a free market would mean that labor flow is not restricted and the overall buying market would be made of workers as well.
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>>73890759
Again
>companies don't have to worry about random niggers looting their shit, only normal people do
Oh wait.
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>>73890759
I'm a small government Nationalist more than I would call myself a Libertarian, but Somalia certain is not Libertarian. It isn't anything, its a fucking FAILED STATE. Niggers can't into anything you should know this.
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>>73886977

>free market can't make roads

>you are forced to live in a statist society so if you use a road you owe the entire society

Lol I suppose she would scold the soviets who complained about bread lines "WHAT ELSE YOU GONNA EAT"

Anyway, she lives in a 5.5 million dollar home, lies about being a Native American which got her into elite universities and makes a living on tax dollars by complaining about rich people and racism. She uses her influence to take away your rights and create a government dependent society

She voted again auditing the fed for gods sake

She's a cancer on the planet
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>>73890831
>>73890924

>libertarian state
>failed state

sorry, i'm not a 14 year old so i dont really see the difference.
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>>73890495
Too bad you guys don't elect serious conservatives then, because a large majority of the legislature supports corporate subsidy to the death.
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>>73889360
Are you going to provide proof or are you going to continue on your media indoctrinated diatribe?
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They (the rich) also paid for those roads you dumb faggot, more so than the poor inept commie fags.
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>>73886977
>you didn't have to about marauding bands stealing your shit.

>so we're coming to take your shit.
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It Warren had run, would she be doing better than Sanders right now?
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>>73891328
That's why we're electing Trump, silly. One of his major platform issues is getting rid of tax loopholes that so many companies are allowed to abuse by a complicit IRS.
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>>73891914
Doubt it. She's a darling of the progressive left but Sanders as a person is much more likable. She presents herself as an "I'm smarter than you and this is how things should be done" type of planner, while Sanders is more of a down to earth "we can all see these problems, let's do something about it" revolutionary type. The latter is much more appealing to most people.
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I wonder how much the Clinton administration is paying this guy to shitpost

I wish I could get paid to shitpost here
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>>73891006
libertarianism != anarchy

you still have a government in a libertarian system.
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>>73886977
So the mafia mugs you, and happens to use some of what they stole from you to build a sidewalk around your house. When next they mug you, they remind you of how you didn't produce value by yourself - other people existed near you, and you used a nicer walking surface provided by the sidewalk around your house, so you owe them back.

Mugging. Justified.
Nothing to see here.
Move along.
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>>73892869
Anarchism falls under libertarianism. Libertarian is an umbrella term. So you don't actually necessarily have government under any given state of affairs described only as "being libertarian".
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>>73892472
>trump
>conservative
Am I being trolled here? Is this sarcasm?
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>>73892881
>there is no difference between an established social contract and organized crime XD
Constant intellectual dishonesty makes it hard to take libertarians seriously
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>>73893154
>established social contract
When did I sign anything? Remind me again.
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>>73892971
lib·er·tar·i·an·ism
ˌlibərˈterēənizəm/
noun: libertarianism

an extreme laissez-faire political philosophy advocating only minimal state intervention in the lives of citizens.

>only minimal state intervention

that means libertarianism requires a state, there is no such thing as liberrtarianism without a government
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>>73893263
Cherry picking is fun. Especially when you know your first google search was headlined with the definition used both colloquially and academically.

"Libertarianism (Latin: liber, "free") is a political philosophy that upholds liberty as its principal objective. Libertarians seek to maximize autonomy and freedom of choice, emphasizing political freedom, voluntary association, and the primacy of individual judgment."
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>>73890457
>baby's first philosopher
Cute.
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>>73886977

Elizabeth Warren would have you believe she's entitled to cutting down a tree for it's wood because it absorbed the carbon dioxide she expelled
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>>73886977
One step closer to realizing national socialism is the best system of governance. However, if only works when the people are homogenous. I don't want to work to benefit some spic or nigger and they don't want to work to benefit me, they want to leech the benefits from my labor. It just doesn't work unless the society feels a sense of kinship toward each other. The capitalist shills want to keep is divided for that reason, it benefits them.
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>>73893370
all I did was type "libertarianism definition" into google and post the first result
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>>73893404
>national socialism
Depends what you mean by that. If you mean Hitlerism, then no.
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>>73886977
Good thread.
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>>73891006
>burger education
>muh ivy league

A libertarian state is inhabited by a majority of libertarian people with libertarian ideas and good knowledge of property rights and free market/voluntary interactions.

A failed state is the natural consequence of ruling a society with counterintuitive laws and artificial socialistic bullshit. The anomie here leads on to chaos and nigger-behaviour
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>>73893474
"Libertarianism".
Which is how it's treated in all political philosophy classes in the English-speaking world.
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>>73888612
Faggot. How's that for ad homonym
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>>73893619
ok, sure, it was synonymous with anarchist in France.

The American Libertarian Party still doesn't advocate anarchy, and shows that anarchy is a fucking retarded idea.
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>>73893185

When you continued to live on the grid
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>>73886977
The free market is fantastic for maximising gross economic gain and exploitation of resources.
It's fucking awful for the average person trying to live in that system.
All you need to know about free market capitalism was demonstrated in Victorian England - industrial powerhouse and centre of innovation for the entire globe, while children died in work-place accidents and people froze, starved, and lived like rats.
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>>73888190
>taking anything Warren says seriously
>wonders what's so funny about this

Well you've outed yourself as a complete retard, for one.
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>>73893771
You said libertarian. You didn't say Libertarian Party.
Some party not advocating for something "retarded" does not make. Neither the Republicans nor Democrats advocate free trade, but that doesn't make free trade retarded. It actually makes them retarded.
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>>73893565
>muh everyone will magically cooperate and respect the norms
How is that different from communism?
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>taking the opinions of Fauxcahontas seriously
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>>73893819
Yeah, because you mugging me and taking my shit puts the moral burden on me to leave, and not you to stop using violence against me.

*Totally*.
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>>73893865
Pretty much. From purely economic perspective, free market and free trade are great concepts. Especially free trade.
But economists always ignore non-economic aspects.
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>But the underlying social contract is you take a hunk of that and pay it forward for the next kid who comes along

What a disgusting and irrational assertion of the divine right of her Liberal government to control that money and decide who is 'the next kid', or what they'll be doing with it. I completely agree with the social responsibilities of people. What I don't agree with, and what most reasonable people don't agree with, is that her policies are the right way to do it.

Notice she hasn't said a single thing about what she believes should be done, she has just made vacuous moral judgement on perceived affluent people that aren't taking up enough civic responsibility. I hate people that pose as intellectuals but make no rational or coherent arguments.
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>>73893899
>You said libertarian. You didn't say Libertarian Party.

I changed the subject because I realized I was wrong on the broader definition.

>Some party not advocating for something "retarded" does not make
I was trying to say that Somalia is proof that anarchy is retarded and a shitty form of libertarianism.
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>>73893977
Interest of nation is above individual interest.
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>>73886977
God I hope Hillary chooses this dumb bitch for VP, that would be icing on the fucking cake.

>yfw you will never see Hiawatha tank the shillary campaign by calling a bunch of steel mill workers privileged
>yfw you will never see Hiawatha in a debate just repeating "sexist racist misogynist!" on a loop when she doesn't know shit about a question
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>>73894137
There are only individuals, commie.
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>>73886977
I don't get it she isn't saying anything revolutionary or new since people already pay taxes on income
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The only thing threatening my business is marauding bands of liberals who want to dictate my bottom line.
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>>73894245
Only in your degenerate mind.
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>>73893872
>poli sci female spouts some one else's view points and claims them as her own, IF ONLY LIZ WAS RUNNING

I'm all for infrastructure and pushing the system along
but women have no place in power, just look at merkel
get ready for four years with killary
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>>73893907

if the majority dont want to cooperate it cannot exist a libertarian society. You and the rest of statism-suckers fail to understand that libertarianism is not a formal system of political organization but a system of human interaction without bureaucratic intervention. The free market and the recognition of property rights is consubstantial with a non-state society and with human nature.
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>>73894443
>recognize value of all people, not to be discarded and thrown away by the mob when its convenient for them
>degenerate
Pretty sure there's only one degenerate here, comrade Pinko.
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>>73886977
You didn't build that
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>>73894137
we don't pull our weight, our interests are above yours
>DESE FOOD STAMPS OBAMA FONES AND MEDICAL ARENT GUNNA PAY FOR THEYSELVES
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MUH ROADS

BUH MUH ROADS
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>>73889360
>vox
8/10, had me going for a minute
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>>73886977
>If only Elizabeth was running.
If only Elizabeth WERE running. The subjunctive can be tricky.
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>>73894793
You're a nothing but a degenerate worm who has taken moral nihilism to another level.
>value of all people
You're lying. That's just sugar-coating your opinions. You only value yourself and your own narrow self-interest.
People like you are utterly worthless.
>comrade Pinko
Nice ad hominem. I'm not a communist. But even communists are better than something like you.
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>>73895398
>Christian moral absolutist
>moral nihilism
L A M O
Keep sucking that BIG GOVERNMENT COCK Comrade Pinko! Never stop!
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>>73895602
>Christian moral absolutist
LARPing as Christian doesn't make you a Christian.
>anime
>tripfag
Yeah, my fault for even acknowledging you.
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>>73886977
The amount of goods you moved on roads is directly related to the amount of gas taxes you pay
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>>73895866
>LARPing
What the fuck is that you fucking nigger-nerd? Are you homogay? Don't answer that - we both already know.
L A M O
A
M
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>>73886977
>But what is the free market doing for the poor?
Turned them from a peasent laborforce and turned them into people
Free market capitalism always fixes itself, it's designed to.
The only time it doesn't is when demoshits have tried to "fix it" when there's a market speed bump
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>>73895866
>>73895398
are you feeling the bern mr MonteNEGRO
>I'm onto you dindu
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A little socialism never hurt anybody. Say 15-20%.

Some basic welfare and healthcare.

Army, police and decent public education system.

But no more.
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>>73886977
>>73896191
MUH CUNTS-TIT-TWO-UNSEE!!!!
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>>73890012
>20 trillion debt magically appear and continues to rise
>My generation and the next few generations of children will have to pay for it.
>all because of "gibmedats" of past generations.
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>>73896509
Stealing people's property never hurt anybody. Yeah Henrik.
You nailed it.
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Chief prepping bull
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>>73896870
end the intergenerational theft by cutting off the baby boomer social security and dumping them into concrete slab ghettos
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>>73896903

Without some of the basics in place the resulting chaos is just as bad as a small tax increase.
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>Libertarians want to transfer power from the state to capitalist.
Why are they so stupid?
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>>73897111
People provide "the basics" - however the fuck you define that - themselves. Unless you're going to tell me people are suddenly going to stop producing value in the world just because they're not having their property continuously stolen from them.
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>>73897267
the basics
>free smart phone, free medication, free housing, free money, free food
>the basics I need to live until I die from getting COPD/cancer from smoking or diabeetus from eating shit food
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>>73897189
>power
What "power" does a state have that no one else has?
One of the only qualities that defines a state vs a lack of one is if some people are held to have a monopoly on the legitimate use of aggressive force. So unless you're saying libertarians want someone else to have a monopoly on the "legitimate" use of aggressive force against people - in which case you would still have a state - there's no "power" being transferred moving from a state of affairs with a state vs one without a state. "Power", if that's even a coherent term, is being eliminated, not transferred.
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>>73886977
You do realize that 50% of Americans dont work or pay taxes, or if they do work, they get all their taxes back on their tax return do to deductions and tax credits?

Of the Americans that actually DO pay taxes, the bottom 50% of tax payers contributed only 30 billion dollars in tax revenue.

Also, over 1 trillion dollars in taxes is given out in to the poor in food stamps, medicaid, and welfare.

Actual tax payers arent even eligibility for any of these programs or benefits because their income is too high.

How exactly are rich people "not pay in their fair share"?

How about the poor start pulling their own weight, rather than leeching off the working classes' hard earned money that's stolen from them by the government in the form of taxes.
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>>73896509
>A little socialism never hurt anybody
You don't deserve to be Norwegian
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>>73897509
Unless those things are magically assembling themselves, they're never free. Even Henrik the Brainless can come to the understanding that people cause those things he values to cohere, and there's a cost in doing so.
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>>73886977
"You didn't build that."
t. Goofy Fauxcahontas
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>>73886977
>Top Kek, Shilling for Goofy.
Do you get a free feather?
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>>73892881

/thread
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>>73890457
>I don't know what spooks are:the post
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Using Chief All Talk No Action's logic, why shouldn't I be able to walk into her living room and take her TV? She didn't earn it or work for it. Everything was already in place for her to have it.
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Goofy Firewater Warren is a joke.
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>>73898310
Wouldn't a portion of her taxes from being a senator go to helping you in some way?
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>>73886977
>You and toilet paper are the only things sticking to this stinky ass.
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>>73889360
>literally
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? Fucking white male.
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>>73898310
Because the law says *you* can't, while the law does say certain people *can*.

Your conclusion should be that what the law says is worthless, but it won't be.
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>>73892881
the social contract is what separates us from the rest of the animals.
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>>73896509

But thst isn't socialist.

Those things scale based on your share of the country. It is a use tax.

Police are there to protect your shit. If you don't make shit and don't have shit, you don't pay because you aren't receiving a service.

Same goes for the roads. Gas taxes pay for the roads. Don't drive, don't pay.

What you are advocating is a general pool of money pulled from everyone and applied however the government wants, instead if being scared directly based on market demand and need.
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>>73886977
>But what is the free market doing for the poor?

The free market is the only thing that's keeping the poor from starving in a ditch. What will they do if there weren't any jobs to fill? Become hunter gatherers again? kek

>inb4 communism will save them

Yeah, having some comrade put a gun to my head, forcing me to work is SO much better.
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>>73898553
Tell me what "the social contract is" please.
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>>73890759
Libertarians support a small efficient government with clear roles. It's not anarchism.
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>>73893865
Except it resulted in the greatest period of private wealth creation in human history.
More people rose from poverty in early 1900s America while there was near totally free markets
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>>73898945
https://www.google.com/search?q=contract+definition&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=libertarianism
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>>73893865

Because workplace safety regulations are what goofy Elizabeth Warren is talking about, not straight up redistribution of income.
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>Le social contract

Consider either actually reading Hobbes or killing yourself.
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>>73898553
I didn't sign shit
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>>73899904
to be this young
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>>73886977
What if my company builds roads?
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>>73886977
> Pay forward
...implying that perpetual no-string-attached mass immigration will pay anything forward.
...TO "the next kid" of anyone who was involved in any way with paying tax in the first place.
> Who is this next kid?
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>>73890774

lmao then Factory B buys Factory A and blocks both roads.
BTFO
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>>73893977

If you live in the village you contribute to the stockpile you lazy nigger
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>>73900402
I contribute to myself and whoever else I want to. I don't owe you shit, just like you don't owe me shit. Or are you telling me you *DO* owe me shit?
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>>73889360
>Vox
Had me going there for a second.
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>>73900281
>A company would willingly deny itself income just to fuck people over
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>>73886977
>the rest of us paid for
As if these people weren't paying taxes as well
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>>73886977
https://youtu.be/f70JI3Hf6-Y
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>>73898575

Yups. But a society based 100% on supply and demand will not function. Without a government, various services and education things will be pretty crappy fast. Even the US has a ton of welfare.

There is not other way to finance this than through some level of taxation.

Even if you dont own a car or drive, you still benefit from the fact that a road runs to your town.

You benefit from the work of varoius government agencies that make sure companies cant screw you over to bad or pollute your environment.

And so on...
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>>73901522

This cunt is making the case for taxes. This cunt is making the argument that the government owns a piece of your business and is responsible for your success.
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>>73901522
So the mafia mugging you every week would be perfectly fine so long as they set up "schools" that your children were mandated to attend.

Brilliant.
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>>73888190
Christ, these fucking shills are in full force now trying to bring their multicultural saturation to drown out /pol/

I love how all the sudden all these pro hillary shit posts start coming out as if they can change anyones mind about her, she embodies all that is hated especially on 4chn
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>>73901972
>the government owns a piece of your business and is responsible for your success.
No she meant your fellow citizens
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>>73890759
>libertarianism and anarchy are the same
>limited X is literally the same as no X
When will this meme end?
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>>73902590
>>73902590

As expressed through the government which this retarded cunt would say is your fellow citizens.
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>>73890761
100 billion annually because of our policy to jail and deport them.

If this policy was changed the number would drop.
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>>73903018
The American government is an extension of the people.

Because the people pay taxes to their government to promote your business, than your business owes it to the people to pay it's fair share back into the system of government which has paved ways for your business to succeed.

The reason why the people pay taxes to help your business is because they think your business promotes the greater good, so if you're not going to pay your fair share to promote the greater good, why than should the system work in your favor? Why than should we pay taxes that are benefiting your business if you are not paying taxes which benefit the people?
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>>73903796

What kind of socialistic faggotry is this? If I own a business making dildos, my business succeeds because it makes dildos people like. If it made dildos that people didn't like, I wouldn't have a business. Outside of providing basic needs to it's citizens, the government has fuck all to do with business.

People pay taxes for this basic needs same as business. It's not some great vote of confidence in a business.
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>>73894020
>But economists always ignore non-economic aspects.
A yes, what a beautiful mythical creature. Sorry to break your bubble comrade, but if people want it, economic forces apply to is. My lord and savior free market will save my soul from poverty. Believe!
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>>73898503
How dare you disobey the law. Do you wish to destroy your country and cause chaos?
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>>73901972

Without laws or a market to sell your stuff on you are fubared. A state and the systems it provides is needed. Without it, anarchy.
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>>73905054
If the law told you to stop breathing you probably would.
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>>73888360
>ancap is libertarian
kys progressive filth
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>>73905201
Of course, it's my duty to obey the law of whatever country I happen to be in. I wouldn't want to make myself a nuisance for the hardworking lawmen.
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>>73905335
Of course.
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>>73905112

Without a market, the state doesn't exist.
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>>73886977
But those things aren't choices they're forced upon you. So naturally as a company you move to places where theses less of those things forced upon you and you make more money. Ultimately what she desires is for there to be no poor because there is no rich. Gladly she'll exchange her modest home for one of comparable size of the richest person in the country so long as theirs is the same size mud hut.
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>>73886977
I'm not even a libertarian and OP's ranting on this quote makes me froth at the mouth.

No shit? People living in a country where they have to pay taxes took advantage of their end result?
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>>73886977
If I wash windows with newspaper and shit on the corner of the street for 5 bucks a pop I can run up and wash your window without your permissions and by her definition you owe me money?
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>>73886977
We have bred a society full of low IQ single mom offspring, it needs to get purged somehow.
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When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men in a society, over the course of time they create for themselves a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that glorifies it.
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>>73886977
I too am now a Liz Miz-ile
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>>73886977
>charge X amount for government services
>people pay what's agreed and go on to become very rich still
>NUH UH WHY DO YOU HAVE SO MUCH, NOW YOU OWE ME MORE

grow up
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>>73886977
Cheif spreading bull
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>>73886977
Who is this goofy broad?
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