Is there a single leftist view that can be justified without involving emotion or terms like "it just makes sense"?
>>73882272
No.
>>73882272
No. Leftism is a fundamentally backwards and illogical view because it is predicated on equality of outcome instead of equality of opportunity.
Women being intellectually equal to men just makes sense. Why would evolution make one gender dumber than the other? There's no biological point of that
>>73882272
The first "leftist" in the french revolution were for capitalism and free market
>>73882605
It's not a leftist view.
Feminism is more leftist, and does not mean equality
>>73882272
Libertarian left can live to counter authoritarian right.
Libertarian right and authoritarian left need to be gassed
>>73882272
Just as an infant has the right to not be abandoned as part of its right to life, all humans have the right to a universal income so that they never starve to death, as an inherent right to life.
>>73882796
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>>73882796
>i have the right to enslave others
No, you don't
What do you mean by leftism?
Left-wing economics or liberalism?
>>73882656
This. A real liberal believes in the free market and capitalism. What people see today is a corruption of those ideals.
>>73882796
Is that you Clive
love your videos
>>73882605
lol woman detected
because women were in labour and taking care of the kids all her life while the men were actually out in the world and solved problems, division of labour
>>73882796
It's a nice flag you got there. You mind if I collect it?
>>73882272
Yes, back in the XIX century when life conditions where worst and wealth was much more accumulated in the hands of few.
And that centrally planet economy is really powerful in the short run only for industrial goods
>>73882929
Those policies just moved to the right in most countries
So what does modern leftism has?
>>73882796
The infant is the property of its parents and civilization regularly establishes rules regarding responsible property use.
People are not property of the state. The state is property of the people. So your analogy is shit.
>>73882929
Not really. The terms "left wing" and "right wing" have just been corrupted for over a hundred years.
Original "right wing" = pro-establishment
Original "left wing" = anti-establishment
>>73882272
Here's one.
Abortion should be legal because it is extremely effective at population control in poor neighborhoods.
People growing up in poor neighborhoods are more likely to become criminals.
Therefore abortion gets rid of future criminals
>>73883313
True, but it's only in America
>>73883313
Well done. Now your birth rates fall below replacement.
>he still believes in left-right politics
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT A RETARD
Is there a single capitalist view that can be justified without involving emotion or terms like "gibsmedat"?
gibsmedat capital
i wasted over 20 years of my life working for it now g-gibsmedat pls bourgeoise i'm a dirty cash slut
gibsmedat means of production
i worked hard for it it took a lot of hard work inheriting milllions and billions from my rich dad
If you are making less than $1,000,000 a year and you support capitalism you are a KEK C U C K
WAGESLAVE W A G E S L A V E
>"it just makes sense"
It's also empirically supported, swine.
http://www.theguardian.com/money/2013/feb/22/four-day-week-less-is-more
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jan/06/-sp-universal-healthcare-the-affordable-dream-amartya-sen
crashing this thread
WITH NO SURVIVORS
>>73883461
>implying that poor uneducated niggers and spics multiplying at ridiculous rates is more sustainable than a lower birth rate
>>73883517
>the guardian
Opinion discarded.
t. brit
>>73883656
Yeah buddy, but America isn't the whole world.
>>73882272
That depends. Fiscally, no. Socially, yes.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/05/12/poultry-workers-forced-to-wear-diapers-to-increase-efficiency-report.html
HAHAHAHAHA CAPITALISTS ARE SO PATHETIC HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU PROUD OF THIS SYSTEM OMG
>>73883417
I have to try the edgier approach then.
Abortion is murder.
For a woman to consider abortion on her baby, regardless if the state condones it or not, would be equal to a women contemplating murdering her own baby
Therefore the women would be an unfit mother and the state should not allow her to give birth or put the child into state care if its born
Therefore abortion prevents orphans and feelings of abandonment of unwanted children
OR OPTION B FOR LIBERTARIANS WHO DON"T THINK THE STATE SHOULD HAVE THAT MUCH POWER
The women panics and decides to seek out alternative means to get rid of the baby
Either makes herself very sick by eating lots of oregano, or goes to a shady doctor who flunked med school
Either the copious amounts of anti-flavinoids get her very sick or the shady doctor makes a mistake in the procedure because he is a quack.
Therefore abortion helps protect the safety of a countries citizens
>>73883692
To be fair most of communists are pretty similar, especially the ''Stalin did nothing wrong'' types.
>>73882605
It's not about being intellligent or dumb, it's about rationnality in decision making, women are inferior on this aspect because they rely more on emotion.
"OKAY listen HERE!
VALUE IS SUBJECTIVE OKAY price is determined by PRICE AND DEMAND what don't you know anything about economics IF I GO INTO A SUPERMARKET AND WANT TO BUY SOMETHING, THE PRICE DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH I WANT THAT THING…
Wait, no… It depends on supply and demand… But value is subjective
HAHAHAHA FUCKING COMMIE RADIO GOD MUDPIES"
t. A Capitalist Wageslave
>>73882605
Not specifically dumber, but different.
More incline to be influence by emotions? To experience strong empathy? We are not biologically the same. It can't have totally no effect on your brain, and thus on your mind.
Surviving in a group and making a group survive is not the same thing. What may be good for the former, could be bad for the latter.
>>73883860
>>73883979
Fun fact: During the 1930's, one of many Nazi sympathisers in the US, Norman Conquest, had an important role in the media and press of America. He was part of the bourgeoisie press who were all against socialism and the soviet union.
He was also the guy who came up with that bullshit that Stalin killed 30 million people.
>>73883990
cry harder, wagecuck. Stay asspained that your system literally murders children.
>>73882272
Capitalism does requier the expolitation of workers. It's true
The solution isnt the absurd marxist state or whatever they sugest though, but the basic assertion is correct.
>>73882272
Is Stalin leftist? If yes, the "education through work" was a good idea
>>73884118
Yes.
How horrifying the gifts of capitalism.
>>73884118
>Stay asspained that your system literally murders children.
America isnt communist yet.
>>73882272
>"it just makes sense"?
Dude you what? Left view are extremely complex. Marx Capital is 300 pages of top tier sophistic mental gymnastics. It is not easy to explain why Earth is flat and Sun rises on the west, you know. But Marx achieved it. Everything else is just consequences of this book.
>>73883860
>Marx
Choose other idols, just don't pick Hitler.
>>73884347
You could make an impressive pic about USSR like that.
>>73884398
>WE WUZ SHOPHISTICATED N SHEIT... you know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxloUBCYuFM
>>73884505
Then go ahead and make one :^)
>>73884582
He's not a Marxist bro it's called sarcasm. In any case Marx was right in his analysis, but his ideas on what to do are shitty.
>>73882796
>I have given myself the right to leech of off other people, because I am worth it
End yourself
>>73884608
No seriously, check data, by numbers USSR was pretty successful until later period.
>>73884664
In case of Russians you can never tell whether they are sarcastic or serious on this topic.
>>73882605
>why would people have different qualities? It just doesn't make sense...
Do you not possess even a fundamental understanding of evolution?
>>73884773
If you lack any national consciousness then maybe America is a good country for you.
It's not leeching. It's helping your society.
>>73883313
Government telling people what to do with their bodies is not an inherently right wing position, it is a conservative one.
>>73884792
>by numbers
By numbers, communists also wont the elections in every soviet occupied european country.
By the same numbers, no one was starving in the communist world.
By numbers, everything was fine tovarish.
Communist numbers and statistics are all made-up.
>>73884886
I have no moral obligation to feed you. Your arguments really do boil down to
>muh feels of fellow man
>>73883572
>Fidel Castro
The guy who put gays into concentration camps? Yeah, I remember him.
>>73884792
And yet the west succeeded was superior. Almost like those soviet statistics didn't mean shit or something, right?
Government cannot allocated resources as effectively as a free market can. Socialism works, but not as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8LtQhIQ2AE
>>73882321
FPBP lets go home
LONG LIVE THE DDR !
>>73884792
>soviet statistics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharof_Rashidov
>>73883070
>So what does modern leftism have?
"Muh feels"
>>73882272
>Political views invoked by emotion
>only happens to leftists
Kek. Never change /pol/
>>73886233
Nah, things like the alt-right is just as emotional.
