Who do i vote for?
Unless you're a multinational corporation, vote Labour always.
>>73879100
>voting for more shitskins
People throw around the term "Conservative in name only" but that's literally what Turnbull is. idgaf, vote meme
>>73879379
Daily reminder that hardline border protection policy is not the same thing as hardline immigration policy. Population growth is bipartisan.
It'll be fast and yellow regardless, but under Labor it'll be faster and yellower
>>73879509
Ok, but who is literally the worst of the two?
I dont much like turnbull, this is why im asking, should i literally preference labour above liberal?
Should i be happy if turnbull loses?
Dont give me meme answers
>>73879772
Liberals are once again the lessor of two evils
>voting labor
>ever
Are these the remainder of the cucks who used to post on the Bernie generals?
For the HoR, there is no choice other than Liberal. As for senate, be very careful who you vote for. Small parties which have traditionally preferenced Liberal is now doing so for Labor. A good example of this is Family First. They've now decided getting elected is more important than their key policies like anti-gay marriage.
Of the two major parties, foreign policy is perhaps marginally better on the Liberals side, but this is up for debate.
As for fiscal and domestic social policy, Liberal is leading the charge.
Unless environment policy and foreign policy (especially foreign spending) are really important to you, I can't see why you'd choose Labor over Liberal.
>>73879100
More shitskins, more money to people who refuse to work.
Fuck that.
Labor is for the poor
Liberal is for the rich
As a middle class I get fucked either way.
And greens are for wasting as much money as possible.
>>73878427
The one with the more red pilled values, you fucking dumb Fuck
>>73878427
Labour. Always Labour. Liberals sell everything to the kikes. Greens will have you on the dole living in a tent
>>73880003
No. You dumb shit. Labour got you into this shit in the first place
>>73880003
> They still sing solidarity forever
Nope
>>73880003
"Lesser of two evil$" for twenty fucking years. Not saying my country is any better but that's the wrong mentality
>>73878427
Neither.
Libs want to sell everything like kikes.
Labour want to spend all the money on cuck initiaties and refugees. Only good thing they ever did was the NBN.
>>73879929
>And greens are for wasting as much money as possible
kek
>Labor is for the poor
>Liberal is for the rich
>As a middle class I get fucked either way.
desu I'd like to discuss this point.
Now, without sounding like a kike banker, I'd say that it benefits the nation as a whole to help the rich rather than to help the poor.
I am not saying to only help the rich, or that helping the rich is the best and only option. But rather out of the two, I believe that helping the top 20% of our nation will help bring our bottom 80% up. It's the top 20% that is investing. They're the ones starting, operating and running businesses and market places.
Say we hurt them so that we can all give the bottom 33% an extra $55 a week, sure, that's great. But that extra $55 isn't going to make them rich enough to create new opportunities, to invest in business, to invest in infrastructure.
pls don't reply with
>hurr jewish capitalist detected
try and have a proper discussion for once and prove the seppos wrong about Australia.
>>73880003
>>73880154
>Liberals sell everything to the kikes
>Libs want to sell everything like kikes.
>posting from your computer then posting from your phone
wew lad
>>73880054
What the fuck Yank? Debt started when Howard was treasurer,Labor added it to then Howard added again and then sold the country.
>>73880154
> 2016
> Believing the govment can build internet
>>73878427
Can't they both lose?
>>73880268
You're right bro. Australia never posted a single deficit before Howard was Treasurer
>>73878427
>>73880383
whats your point? so howard didn't sell the country in the 90s and blamed labour?
>>73879987
>>73880054
>>73880133
This isn't our thread, you bloody prick m80 m8
>>73880426
The point is that you're talking out of your ass
Don't vote for left, the left is the most destructive force in this planet.
>>73878427
Only one answer:
RIGHT
>WING
MEME
>PARTIES
>>73880268
>that picture
>literally shitposting
Also, here you, enjoy the graph
>>73880352
Nope. Either one or the other. The next biggest party is Greens, and we all know they won't get more than 2 or 3 seats if the absolute best case scenario goes their way.
>>73879100
I usually vote Labor, although the split of Australia's left parties with Labor and the Greens means that it is harder for Labor to get into power, it does mean however that the Labor party is able to focus on traditional leftist concerns such as workers rights while the Greens party is the party of choice for the progressive left/SJW types who are more concerned with the environment and identity politics.
>>73880459
If that is all your going to say fuck off to redd1t
>>73880433
He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster. And if thou post long with the shitposter, the shit will also post into thee.
>>73880513
Well I could point of that privatisation begun under Labor, but it's really just not worth it with the likes of you
>>73880502
>Howard
Sold 70+ Billion in Assets and the Gold Reserves
Mining Boom
>Rudd
GFC.
>>73879100
A vote for Labor is a vote to DOUBLE the amount of Apex gang members and Muslim terrorists let into Australia as refugees
Shorten wants to let in 30,000 Apex members and Jihadists EVERY YEAR
And that's not included the tens of thousands more that will flood in via boats when Labor puss out of turning back the boats like we all know they will (and like all their backbenchers are saying they'll do)
>>73880602
Mate, I know he started it with the personal attacks, but don't stoop to his level
>>73880513
Mate, we point out that you haven't got anything to back up your claims, and now you personally attack him for questioning your falsified claims?
>>73880602
Can you please
>>73880268
Your young as fuck and have no idea what your talking about.
Countries continue to sell off assets once they're developed to build new assets. It's a continual circle.
>>73880727
hahaha. because we developed a new bank? no they sold assets and also revenue streams. genius
>call a double-dissolution on union busting and likely soon to be workchoices
>economy going to shit
>voting liberal party
Any cunt who votes tory should just give themselves a fucking uppercut.
>>73880673
read >>73880727
Economic cycles are just that. They're cyclical. Yes there are booms, and then there are contractions of the economy, and then once we're conservative enough, we expand again, then we over stretch, then we contract again and so on.
What's more important in determining the ability is their fiscal policy. For example, with those good times under the Howard government, things we're saved (or invested. Which arguably is better than saving when done correctly). Under the previous Labor government, we saw gross overspending. Now, let's not get confused about this. The previous Labor government wasn't just in for a year or two. They were in for much longer. They knew what they were doing. They knew how much they borrowed, how much they earned, and how much they spent.
They blew it.
>>73880702
right.
>>73880673
>>73880693
Fuck off dickhead, it's the fucking libs who will be importing a flood of shitskins once they get their "productivity reforms" through.
>>73880944
The current government has doubled the deficit. Labor saved the economy with their spending, what have the liberals done?
Vote Labor you fuckwits.
LABOR HASN'T DELIVERED A BUDGET SURPLUS SINCE 1989
>LABOR HASN'T DELIVERED A BUDGET SURPLUS SINCE 1989
LABOR HASN'T DELIVERED A BUDGET SURPLUS SINCE 1989
>LABOR HASN'T DELIVERED A BUDGET SURPLUS SINCE 1989
LABOR HASN'T DELIVERED A BUDGET SURPLUS SINCE 1989
>LABOR HASN'T DELIVERED A BUDGET SURPLUS SINCE 1989
Once a budget goes into deficit, Labor has no ability to cut spending to go back into surplus. They are no concerned about "muh programs" to EVER cut spending, they just can't bring themselves to do it. This was true in the 1990s, true under Rudd & Gillard, and will be the same under Shorten.
>>73880944
so selling the assets was a calculated move? umm right they're called assets for a good reason. That's all the Libs do is sell assets and claim we are economic geniuses
>>73880972
Shorten is literally proposing to DOUBLE the amount of refugees taken into Australia to 30,000 per year
They are all the Apex gang members, they are all the Jihadists
Labor brought the Sudanese, Somalis and Muslims into Australia. 3 years of Shorten and 90,000 more Apex gang members and Muslim Jihadis will call Australia home (and be stacked into Labor party branches).
If it's in your interest, be a cynical cunt and vote for Liberals. For example if you have a high paying corporate career, and/or come from a high net worth family
If you are middle or lower class, as in you earn less than <$100k p.a. and/or come from a family with net worth below maybe $5mln... then you should really be voting Labour.
>>73880878
>voting for the unions
lol
Fuck off Dazza, ya dumb kunt
>>73880972
I am against illegal migration, and I also support massive reduction of legal migration to Australia.
That being said, Labor has indicated in the last few days that they'll likely cave into pressure to reverse the turn back policy. Illegal immigration will start up again.
If I have to choose between Labor letting in violent muslims unchecked, or choosing Liberals to bring in some smelly Indians that fix my internet, then the choice is a no brainer.
>>73880803
>no they sold assets and also revenue streams
share with me what assests and revenue streams they sold, and perhaps we can fix up the misunderstanding
>so selling the assets was a calculated move?
You think they did it by accident..?
>umm right they're called assets for a good reason
Yes, exactly right. Once they've reached the peak of their value, it's good to sell it off.
And then reinvest the money made into a new asset.
Perhaps you skipped out on your business management class or economics class, but, this is the general gist of how things go.
Like I said earlier on, let me know which assets you opposed the selling of.
>claim we are economic geniuses
Also quick daily reminder that all the best economists have been neo-liberal economists.
>>73881184
lol
>>73880803
>>73881190
Yeah nah m8, I can't argue with people this fucking retarded.
>>73878427
ONE
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>>73881363
Bingo.
ALP = Social & economic safety net
Libs = hurr durr free market rules bruh u on ur own
>>73881391
>so selling the assets was a calculated move?
You think they did it by accident..?
>umm right they're called assets for a good reason
Yes, exactly right. Once they've reached the peak of their value, it's good to sell it off.
And then reinvest the money made into a new asset.
Perhaps you skipped out on your business management class or economics class, but, this is the general gist of how things go.
Like I said earlier on, let me know which assets you opposed the selling of.
>claim we are economic geniuses
Also quick daily reminder that all the best economists have been neo-liberal economists.
this chunk of my post was for >>73881190
I'm such a shitcunt, I can't even click properly.
>>73881363
voting for the best interests of your nation trumps voting for your own personal need.
>>73881447
Yeah nah get fucked you dingo
>>73881363
t. 1st year uni student
Fight the power comrade
>>73881465
>Like I said earlier on, let me know which assets you opposed the selling of.
All of them
The treasury needs the revenue more than Xing Le Pty Ltd needs the revenue
A vote for privitization is a vote for globalisation at the expense of benefits to Australians
>>73881481
>Yeah nah get fucked you dingo
Please explain this comment
Vote Labor
I want to vote labor but I do think more immigrants will get in under them then under liberal.
>>73881481
Muslim detected
Having fun shitposting on behalf of daddies ethnic branch stack in the ALP?
Which Labor backbencher or minister does your ethnic stack control?
>http://www.100positivepolicies.org.au/
Labor shilling faggots will defend this garbage.
>>73880496
This and I support multiculturalism, gays and women.
>>73881391
>muh boats
Those libs will have you living like a poor white nigger while they sell the country to the chinks, but muh boats.
>>73881623
If you look at the stats it's literally no difference
It's never been a political issue except for when Hanson brought it up, both parties support it
>>73881660
Liberal party hack detected.
>>73881623
Labor have already announced they are doubling the Apex/Jihadi, I mean """refugee""" intake, to 30,000 per year.
Every Labor back bencher is letting on that they won't turn back the boats and will close down Nauru too, so expect Europe levels of Muslim invaders once they lose control of the borders again.
>>73881623
>voting Left
Literal cuck. If you are a heterosexual White man, there is literally no reason to ever vote Left.
>>73881830
Confirmed child of Labor ethnic branch stacker
Get the fuck out my country Achmed
>>73881848
>ALP
>left
>>73881848
I come from a poorer family raised by a single mother who only makes 50k a year but it's my first time voting this year.
Could they possibly be importing shitskins to fuel the construction industry? if our population isn't growing then nothing is getting built etc.. just a thought
>>73881565
>All of them
Examples mate. I was gonna say to give me three, but I'll make it easy. Just give me one.
>The treasury needs the revenue more than Xing Le Pty Ltd needs the revenue
>What is reinvesting
bruh, seriously, if you're in Victoria, please take Business Management 1&2 and Economics 1&2 when you reach year 11. It was great.
>A vote for privitization is a vote for globalisation at the expense of benefits to Australians
>at the expense of benefits to Australians
So this is what it comes down?
Giving benefits and handouts?
By reinvesting from the money made in our asset selling, we help ourselves in the long run by providing more opportunities in the future. Holding onto assets beyond their peak is stupid and will only hurt you.
>>73881745
>like a poor white nigger
>neo-liberal economy that makes you work if you wish to get ahead
Пpивeт тoвapищ! We better stop economic progress, am I right comrade?
>>73881905
Dude it's gotta be Labor. The iron fist Libs don't give a fuck about you.
Is he our guy?
>>73881903
>Fag marriage
>Doesn't want to protect our border
>Supports and is supported by workers unions
They're not Swedish-tier left, but they're still left mate.
>>73881465
>voting for the best interests of your nation trumps voting for your own personal need.
Your personal need usually coincide with the needs of others
I certainly don't want sensible unions being beaten back just so Liberals and their mates CEO Shekelstein can have a few more Gorillian boomerang dolaroos in his British Virgin Islands trust fund
NOT SMART
>>73880268
Are you trying to make a coherent sentence? Because it almost seems like, from your broken English, that you're proving me right. Feel free to defend thyself
>>73881896
Ha. Its funny, you talk as if you understand the internal mechanisms of the ALP. But we all know you don't know what you're talking about.
>>73881391
>>73881465
what they sold went up in value they werent peak. sold medicare,medicare raised prices for the sole reason of profit. a asset is there to aid the country
>>73880433
Shut the fuck up, you faggotron. I care about my Aussie, and I want them to do well
The choice is clear
>>73881955
they dont need to reinvest the sales from the assets, they can reinvest the profits from the assets
go fuck yourself you dumb cunt trying to be all patronizing muh year 11 economics
no asset should be privitized. corporations can compete in the market and if the operate more efficiently thats brilliant
but they get no free monopolies, fuck off
go be a globalist in america if you want
What happened to London, will happen to Sydney and Melbourne too.
Just look at Apex in Melbourne and Muslims in Western Sydney.
Shorten bringing 90,000 more Africans and Muslims is the tipping point of no return.
Unless we stop the Left and shit doen 3rd world immigration via the """refugee""" program, and keep the borders secure, we WILL experience a European style level of Muslim invasion, tens if not hundreds of thousands of Muslims, in addition to Shortens planned 90,000 that he'll fly in.
All Labor care about are getting new ethnic group members and families to stack into the Labor Party to beat out other Labor factions (who are stacking in other ethnic groups and families). They'll kill Australia like they have the UK if we let them.
>>73881903
They are these days. The Labor right is dying rapidly.
>>73881999
Have a read of these and decide:
>https://www.ausparty.org.au/page/attachment/36/asylum-seekers-and-border-protection
>https://www.ausparty.org.au/page/attachment/43/first-australians
>>73882140
>sold medicare,medicare raised prices for the sole reason of profit
What the fuck are you on about?
>>73881831
>all men
do people not see and realise what this is?
>>73881905
>raised by single mother
I have some tragic fucking news for you.
>>73882268
>>sold medicare,medicare raised prices for the sole reason of profit
your right. its late sorry. medibank
>>73878427
Vote ldp for freedom and to get your guns back
>>73882268
I think he's referring to medibank private, not medicare. Huge difference.
Although medibank private whilst in government hands was profitable and should not have been sold if you ask me.
>>73882395
There was nothing wrong with the sale of Medibank. Why should the Government have a stake in the private health insurance industry?
>>73879903
>FF supporting Labor and abandoning their policies for seats
Gonna need a source for that
>>73882049
What's wrong with unions? Do you want to work like a gook in a sweatshop?
>>73878427
pick the Jew you dumb fucks
>>73882523
Which one?
Remove boats.
Remove immigrants.
>>73881905
Do you want a handout?
Labor
Do you want a hand up?
Liberal
If you want to make 50k like your mum when you're a 50 year old man, vote Labor.
If you want our economy to prosper so that you have the opportunity to work hard and perhaps make double what your mum does if you play your cards right, then vote Liberal.
>>73881999
lel fucking based trips
>>73882061
>Your personal need usually coincide with the needs of others
Not particularly true.
I'll give a quick example.
I am a university student. It would be in my personal best interests to vote Labor. Because they would increase university spending as well as benefits to youths like me.
However, I know the costs behind this. The current working class would bear the brunt of this burden by either having taxes raised on them, or have taxes redirected from other programs to fund me.
I'm not willing to let that happen, because I understand it's more important to have a flowing and dynamic market place where the government doesn't constantly have to tax the fuck out of the working class just to make the lives easier for the few. Us students are not a majority by any means. The working class is.
>sensible unions
Quick reminder: although some unions are sensible, those working for construction and the like are not. They have way too much power, and the depth of their corruption has been proven. It's a cop out that I go to work to my part-time job on a Monday, but every second Monday our takings are consistently lower. Why? Because tradies have an RDO. They don't come to work. Long weekend every second weekend. Why? What part of their low-skilled jobs give them the right to have a day off while we pay for their kids to go to a public school?
>>73882122
Labor is controlled by ethnic branch stacks, whose loyalty is determined by payoffs to the ethnic leader of the group, usually an appointment to an quango, like the Ethnic Affairs Committees (and other variations) or if they are really good ethbic branch stackers, to the State upper house.
Just look at the names of the Upper House ALP members in your state.
Look at how Obeid started out, an ethnic community newspaper proprietor, who become so good at stacking the Labor Party with ethnic stacks, he stacked out an entire State Division and controlled through his ethnic stacks, a NSW Labor government.
Join the Party yourself and see. Get to know yourself the ethnic branch stack leaders and advance your career inside the party and movement.
>>73882460
Revenue stream
>Labor government
>Immigration goes down
>Defecit goes down
>Services go up
>Liberal government
>Immigration goes up
>Defecit goes up
>Services go down
Yeah but seriously guys:
Liberals are heaps good for you hey.
They're like experts at economics
All you've gotta do is treat corporations like they're low income workers and reduce their tax payable after they've already applied billions in deductions
Then maybe they'll give you a job so you can live in a time where:
services are shit
wages are shit
your currency is shit
>>73882553
You mean Shaoquett Moselmane?
You're in the ballpark with what you say but you are still missing the mark. The ethnic stacks don't have nearly as much sway as you think.
FTR Obeids a cunt and his allies have been destroyed. They have no power I've seen them be ganked out from the inside.
>>73882268
>https://www.ausparty.org.au/page/attachment/36/asylum-seekers-and-border-protection
>Any boat found in Australian waters, that is seaworthy and carrying asylum seekers, shall be turned
around and escorted out of Australian waters
ok?
>https://www.ausparty.org.au/page/attachment/43/first-australians
>It is clear that the welfare system and the subsequent
culture that has become entrenched in many
communities has reinforced the decline of Aboriginal communities.
What's wrong with this? You implying LNP don't recognize first australians?
>>73882543
lol, best response
>>73882485
if you think no unions = gook style sweatshops, I think you're misunderstanding the issue at hand.
Things like sweatshops are a particular problem in places like Bangladesh, China, India, Thailand and the Philippines not just because of lack of unionisation. But because things like massively high population+population density, as well as lack of other job opportunities.
Over in India, someone is happy to work for $2 a day in a sweatshop, because they know if they don't do that, someone else will. We're lucky that in Australia we do have these opportunities, and as our market place is freed up, these opportunities will only expand. Labour is a commodity. If a workplace opens up that operates like a sweatshop, and workers refuse to work for the boss, then it closes down.
This is Labor, a party ruled by ethnic branch stacks and totally alienated from ordinary Australians and their concerns:
>WINNING the Cambodian vote has taken on a new meaning for Simon Crean and Martin Pakula in their preselection battle for one of Australia's most multicultural electorates.
>Both candidates have been relying on interpreters to communicate with Cambodian, Vietnamese, Latino, Greek and Chinese ALP members.
>While challenger Martin Pakula is being backed by Hong Lim, the state Labor member for Clayton, Mr Crean is being helped by an enthusiastic band of locals keen to reward his loyalty over the last 16 years.
>Among them is Meng Bunlay, 31, the secretary of the local Cambodian Buddhist temple.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/crean-pakula-seeking-crucial-poll-edge/2006/03/03/1141191854001.html
Labor is ruled by ethnic branch stackers aka "ethnic community leaders", that's why they open the borders whenever they get in power. They are building up their ethnic stack numbers inside the Labor party and sending Australia to the shit just to do it.
>>73882546
Do you want all manufacturing to close?
Do you want foreign ownership of Australia?
Do you want to compete with cheap imported labour?
Do you want prime farmland mined for coal?
Do you want to subsidize the richest people in Australia while the budget deficit continues to blow out?
Vote liberal.
>>73883005
Ahahahahaha fuck off jew.
>>73883016
nice tin hat
cool story bro
>>73883016
>need interpreters to communicate with
>internal politics of an english-speaking colony.
No, no, what the FUCK am I reading? These cunts need to be ejected from politics ASAP. They need to pass English Literacy to be citizens FFS!
>>73883257
t. someone who has never been a member of Labor or Liberal parties and has never branch stacked for a faction
>>73882776
Yeah it's all the liberals fault. Last time Labor were in power it was a golden age, it's worth all the extra shitskins and fagget pandering
>>73883381
was a member for a whole of ten minutes
>spamming my phone with invites to do dumbshit
>nah fuck off hey
still getting calls years later and letters in the mail
what a mistake i made
>>73883067
>Do you want all manufacturing to close?
If it can't survive on it's own. Yes.
It's not the taxpayers fault that manufacturing isn't economically viable. Why should we suffer for it?
>Do you want foreign ownership of Australia?
Nope. Thank fully the Nationals are against this. I dare say in the next term of government, we'll see this matter resolved
>Do you want to compete with cheap imported labour?
We need to reduce the amount of labour coming from overseas, but be mindful that both parties want the same amount of immigration. Only Labor is happy to let illegal immigrants in too.
>Do you want prime farmland mined for coal?
If it's in the best economic interests of our country, of course. If mining produces more dollars for every dollar invested than agriculture does, why not? however this'll slow down very soon, mining is becoming less profitable every day.
>Do you want to subsidize the richest people in Australia while the budget deficit continues to blow out?
Lol. I know I don't want to subsidise the poorest. Somehow I don't like the idea of giving my money to an ice addict that shouts at people on the train like a dumb cunt.
>>73883123
>anyone who can recognise the success of a neo-liberal market structure is a Jew
It's not the best system, but out of the economic policies of Liberal and those of Labor, it's hardly a competition.
>>73883439
yeah cunt it actually is their fault when their ideology influences their actions and their actions fucking suck cock
>>73883381
Hahahahahaah
Oh but I have.
>>73883520
I know cunt, that's why I'm voting Labor for some extra dole lad, yew!
>>73883332
That is how the Labor Party is run.
Ethnic stacks who through family and ethnix bonds are loyal to an ethnic community leader, who receives kick backs and governmwnt job positions from Labor once they get on power.
Many of the ethnic stacks don't even know they are signed up to the Party, and when they are turned out for a meeting to vote, just do whatever their ethnic leader tells them to do. That's the extent of their political involvement.
That's the state of play inside the Labor Party and why they open the borders up. Simon Crean won that preselection and gave a victory speech thanking a dozen different ethnic groups for the win, it was the Cambodians which clinched it for him in the end. """"Australian""""" Labor Party.
>>73878427
Prep the (Turn)bull
>>73883670
dont think labor have any policy announcements re: dole
dont want my tax money to go to dipshits who suck at opening businesses to invest in property and lose money
dont want my money going to cover the difference between what corporations wont have to pay due to a tax cut
but yeah go suck your dads dick
>>73883552
Being a stack doesn't count m8, no agency in that
Run along now, adults are talking. We'll give you a call when we need you to turn up to the next AGM. Stay quiet on facebook. NO LEAKS.
i've never seen so many shitposters in one place
>>73883825
Come for a walk down Sussex st one day. You don't know shit mate
Are the liberals afraid to admit that the FttN idea was a mistake?
I feel like this is one issue where they had it wrong and were doing it just to be as contrarian as possible thinking they had a more 'economic' alternative when in reality FttN will cost 2/3rds of the price for FttP but only deliver 1/4th of the speed. It's a terrible speed-cost ratio that will only grow due to the higher cost of maintaining out of date nodes.
>>73884002
Feel like some Golden Century?
Meet you there in an hour
>>73884106
this is the most on point post here
>>73883788
I'd rather my money go to business rather than supporting an extra 100,000 refugee's. The tax cuts benefits small business for now any way
>but yeah go suck your dads dick
Projecting much faggot? No wonder you're voting labor
>>73884119
No way man. Noodle king.
Nothing like some deals over dumplings.
>>73884106
desu, I think it was damage control. And I'm saying this as a Liberal supporter.
I think they had such pressure on them to go ahead with the plan that they just said "fuck it", and rather than totally scrapping the plan and getting torn apart by the media, they just cut costs on it so it doesn't look like they completely scrapped it, but in the mean time they avoid useless spending
Now I know some people are gonna start roasting me for calling it useless spending, I'm just saying from their perspective it's useless spending. There's no question that they're neo-liberal. They believe that it should be left to the free market.
Where you personally stand on that is up to each man.
>>73884106
obviously
Vote for nothing but smaller parties with policies you agree with.
>>73884337
What's the point in doing a deal if you can't kill a live fish to seal it?
>>73884630
This would be viable if we had a different type of electoral system. Unfortunately no one will do this, because they make a compromise
Sure I may support the policies of a party like Family First (random example, not true). However I know if I do that, it's likely someone else will vote Labor. And I know Family First 100% can't beat Labor, but Liberals might have a chance.
So instead I'll vote for Liberals, because though they may not support ALL my ideas, they represent more of my ideas than Labor does.
And this essentially is how you end up with a two party system
>>73885101
ISN'T DEMOCRACY WONDERFUL?
>>73879929
>Labor is for the poor
>Liberal is for the rich
>As a middle class I get fucked either way.
Exactly, fuck it.
Vote for leftist cucks, or rich snobs who are bought by coal companies? Fucked either way.
>>73885254
>ISN'T DEMOCRACY WONDERFUL?
The issue here isn't democracy, it's the way the electoral system is set up. I honestly recommend watching this video, and some of the other videos if you're genuinely interested in what I mean.
There are ways to set up elections so that not every voter has to worry about what the person in the booth next to them will vote.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE&list=PLrWOPUJBrn62lagQRxaMcsOPi4bhXttP_
>>73881447
>voting for a party who don't even know what the TPP is
'no'
