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Is an unborn fetus worth the same as a human life?
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>>73860594
depends which one is the nigger
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>>73860594
Yes but women arent so i would save the dudes
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>>73860594
multi-track drifting
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>>73860594
why wouldn't you just put the track on half tilt and derail it? either kill everyone or cause a huge mess is my motto.
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>>73860594
Yes.

But, planned parenthood keeps the crime rate down by aborting nigger babies.
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>>73860594
Nope.
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move the switch halfway so the train derails
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If there were 3 women and three men on track A I'd still choose it over track B.

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>>73860594
My only regret is I can't kill all 11
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Hypothetically, the females each have a 50% chance of having another female in their vag, which will eventually grow up and vote liberal just like their single mothers. So track A
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>>73861229
Multi-track drifting
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Its even enough that I wouldn't even bother touching the lever. I wouldn't want the responsibility of what happens.
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If the pregnant womyn wanna have their babies then it is moyder
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>>73860594
Depends. Is the mother married, has no substance abuse, and is well-off? Fetus has good potential. I'd be anti-abortion for a fetus that has a good chance of not being a waste of space.
Is the mother not even sure who the father is? Is she a crackhead that lives in a trailer? Drinking while pregant? Just nuke the fetus and get it over with.
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Once the male has an erection. that is when life begins, not when the mother gives birth, not at the point of conception. If you get an erection and then initiate the reproductive processes and then lose your erection half way through, that's when your are killing all the sperm still lodged in your testicles. Yeah, you that that feeling.
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>>73860594
Fetus is worth more in fact, because it holds the potential to become much more than your average human.
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>>73862125
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BlJRtsQrgo
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>>73861354
Would not taking action when you are able really free you from responsibility?
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>>73862192
This raises the question of what has more inherent value, potential or kinetic energy.
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>>73860594
Yes
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>>73862578
That's a low-energy track problem m8
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Now this is the real problem.

Note, there IS a solution.
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>>73862723
Multi track drifting
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>>73862723
>the trolley continues moving forever
I pull the lever and find a way to utilise the trolley as power source
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>>73862723
Pull the lever, within time the track will run out of people
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>>73862933
>infinite amount of people
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>>73861317

This desu
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>>73862723
Do litteraly nothing. It doesn't matter where it goes if both tracks have an infinite amount of people.
>>73862933
>run out of people
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>>73863123
m8, the whole point is that one of the sets N0 or N1 is finite and the other is infinite
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>>73863141
Holy KEK
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Even if it is "a human life" it wouldn't matter. Humanity is overrated and too many people are born while too few die.
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>>73863683
Fucking kek
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best trolley meme coming through
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>save the pregnant women
>"oh thank you anon for saving our lives...wait what are you doing! untie us!"
>rape them
>don't ever untie them
>leave them for the next train to run them over
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i'm liking this spicy fresh meme boys
keep up the good work and youll get noticed in no time
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>>73864410
kill yourself
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>>73860594
>you kill the 5 people
>the 3 women each give birth to black triplets

way to go
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>>73860594

If you kill the men, the pregnant women will become single mothers and raise shitty children

So therefore, kill the pregnant women
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>>73860594
Dumping
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>>73860594
Depends on who you sell it to.
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>>73860594
>implying i dont want allof them to die
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>>73860594
not in your OP because the rate of miscarriage means it is much more likely for 3 pregnant women to not equal 5 human lives after the gestation period.

ultimately abortion is morally wrong, but everyone should have the right to choose that.

and no an unborn fetus is not worth the same as a human life to an objective observer, just as a 96 year old's life is not worth the same as an 8 year old's.
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>>73863904

I know it's a meme but he's right.

If you think you should pull the lever, then you also should believe that healthy people should be harvested regularly for their organs as long as their organs can save 2+ people.
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>>73863998
top kek
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>>73866351
This, if you pull the lever it's murder. If you leave it alone, it's an accident, or at the absolute worst, it's criminal neglectment.
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>>73866035
Kill one, I am not to blame for what others do.
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>>73863904
5th panel ruins it
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DEJA VU

I HAVE BEEN IN THIS THREAD BEFORE
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There are about 100 billion stars in our galaxy and 10 billion galaxies in the observable universe. You are on a tiny rock flying through space, alive for a few moments and will be forgotten soon.

Nothing matters. Human life is worth nothing, so even if you have a thousand pregnant woman, you still have nothing of any value.

Stop giving a shit, walk away from the lever and drink yourself to death.
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Which one?
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>>73863683
I kek'd hard
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>>73866035
I'll kill the one just to see what happens
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>>73866895
screw the midwits
that guy deserves more

the others are probably communists anyways
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>>73866895
Top,

We only need 160 IQ people in this world to lead the best companies and continue innovating

And killing fice people is mean
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>>73860594
change the direction of the train

the driver will notice and stop the train
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>>73863819
this

overpopulation will cause more and more problems as time goes on.
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try putting a fetus on the tracks and I'll give you my thoughts
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>>73862714
Do nothing, the only reasonable one
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>>73866895
kill the retards
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>>73860715
Fpbp>>73860785
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What would you do?
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>>73862714
don't pull. If he pulls it, his veers. If he doesn't pull it, his collides, I have 100% survival rate. If I survive and all 10 of the others die, so be it. If the other guy wants a 100% chance at survival, he'll also not pull, killing five.
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>>73868121
Make the child black for a more compelling problem.
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>>73860594
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>>73866845
t. nietzsche
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>>73862495
>Thermodynamics to measure value of human beings
>Burgers are scientifically illiterate
>Average day on /pol/
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>>73866895
the 130 guy
the five have a higher combine IQ
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>>73860594
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>>73862578
AWWW SHIT!
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Only if it's a female fetus inside a chinese woman.
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>>73866021
>that smile
hard kek
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Can't you just pull the switch halfway so that it goes off track?
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>>73866035
Kill 1 and run across and force them to only kill 1, think outside the box you fags
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>>73860594
>implying you can quantify such things
>implying morality isn't based on guesswork
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>>73860594
Abortion is a necessary evil. Some people are not suited to be parents, and some are just not ready.

Honestly which would you rather have, a baby born to a crack addict that goes into foster care and has emotional issues ultimately leading to jail, or an aborted fetus? I prefer the latter, and think it's an option that should be available.
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>>73860594
I'd say a fetus is worth even more because it's a blank slate (relatively speaking).
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>>73869641
thats impossible
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>>73860594
5 guys vs 3 women with 3 or more kids? I save the women, raise the kids and keep copulating with the women. If you save the guys all you have is a sausage fest.

Also depends on the human life.
Smart middle age person with a career like engineering, biology, etc is more valuable than a wild card unborn fetus. An arts student is not.
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>>73870079
i fucking hate you mother fuckers for making a meme out of fucking everything
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>Throw switch halfway
>Switch points not tight to rail / floating switch points
>Trolley derails in a straight line
>Everyone lives
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>>73860594
the men tied to track B are obviously dead, so the only choice is to switch the trolley to track A
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>>73863683
lol n1
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>>73870079
loss.jpg
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>>73870079
Is this loss?
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>>73862723
yes because world records are meant to be broken
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>>73860594
"Unborn" is a relative term. I'd say that a human life begins, and therefore is born, at conception. Just because it's in its early stages of development, doesn't mean its not human life.

If you want to be philosophical about it, then yes it is worth the same as a human that is outside of the womb.

My sister had twins, which she had to give birth to earlier than normal because of complications. She gave birth to them around the 8 month mark, but if she wanted to, she could have terminated the pregnancy, which really fucks with my head. The only thing standing between them and death was a word from my sister and that's fucked up. It's worth it inside and it's worth it outside the womb.
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>>73863904
they should have spoke up
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>>73870060
But muh genetics
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This is even better than the /lit/ discussion about this issue.
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>>73868121
C
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>>73860594
I would say that a human life is more important than a fetus, and that a woman does have a right to their body. However If a woman chooses to have sex then she is consenting to becoming pregnant. It's like if you make a bet with your friend you consent to losing money if you lose the bet. Just because you bet with winning in mind doesn't negate your responsibilities if you lose the bet.
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>>73873534

push the fat man over, then proceed to execute the tied up people.

fat people and liberal faggots must be purged
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>>73861317
This
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>>73868121
>I don't feel no pain no more
fucking brits :(
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>>73866351
Lots of difference
In the trolley problem, you're reacting over the only solutions possible, when you harvest other people you're only acting to chose the harvest solution over natural death for transplantation
You're also doing the test once, when you say "regularly harvesting people". How is this the same setting?
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https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1462413872062.webm
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>>73862723
run the tracks through Africa and india
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>>73860594
>Is an unborn fetus worth the same as a human life?
so youre asking if human life is worth the same as human life?
yeah, Im pretty sure it is.
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>>73860594
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>>73875485
thx i was in the middle of a seizure
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>>73875485
kek
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>>73860594

no.
Fetusses can be used for Stemcel research, wich makes them a bit more valuable.

It's a shame these ''hue muh aburtiorz iez moardor'' retards are in the way of this though.
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>>73860594
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>>73875836
it should be lever of privilege
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>>73860594
Even if they weren't pregnant I'd save them over the men. Men aren't worth as much as women and foreign men.
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>>73875672
>so youre asking if human life is worth the same as human life?

That's like saying an unconstructed building is as important as your house you fucking moron.
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>>73873735
Fat people can lose weight

You can't fix mentally ill.
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>>73876549
>dont take the bait
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>>73878691
good job you gave him a reply
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>>73877069
A+B sacrifice everyone to the trolly machine and hope their blood is filling enough for him to spare me.
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>>73870152
t. Trump haters
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>>73862787
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaqZoph265U
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>>73869017
>he thinks two people with an IQ of 100 can outsmart one person with an IQ of 190
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>>73866035
At best it would be still 4 people killed vs 5 peaple killed. One less with risk of more deaths.
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>>73873534
>push the fat man
>trolley runs him over and doesn't stop because it's a fucking 20000lb trolley
>runs over the five tied up people too
whoops
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>>73863683
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>>73861865
This, if all of those mothers are single mothers without being war widows or widows due to death or disease then slam that fuckin switch tbqh sempai
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