Are southern europeans and arabs literally the same thing?
Not quite
Although they do share ancestry with the first farmers
>>73854928
They share a lot of common genetics, and are widely intermixed.
>>73855240
Is 8% a lot?
>>73855240
Probably the best way to illustrate it.
>>73855299
It certainly is, yes.
>>73855240
>>73855299
I mean, look at this.
http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/2014/10/10/results-from-asturias-spain-add-to-the-genographic-project-human-family-tree/
It does not sound like there is a lot of arab influence.
So, why some of them look so dark? It doesnt make sense.
Any explanation?
>>73854928
It really depends. The guy in your picture looks more arab than european.
>>73855425
>http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/2014/10/10/results-from-asturias-spain-add-to-the-genographic-project-human-family-tree/
Look at the Paternal Ancestry (2nd map). 18% middle east, 9% N. Africa.
There is your answer.
Middle eastern genes flowed by male invader and wanderers - the Paternal line.
>>73854928
lol coming from a country that speaks mexican.
>>73855425
Also that article is Northern Spain, which was far less effected by Moors than the south.
>>73854928
Yep. There has been extensive mixing thanks to when Arabs conquested Spain and Italy. Some Sicilians today still speak Sicilian Arabic, and the Maltese language is a mixture of Arabic and Italian. There's no denying the gene flow in that area is fairly mixed, despite deluded people claiming that there has been no mixture.
>>73855425
>It does not sound like there is a lot of arab influence.
lol, in denial, huh? Did you forget that time when Muslims ruled a part of Spain for hundreds of years and their influence even reached the northernmost point of Spain at one point? South Spain has some of the most beautiful, ornate mosques
>>73855681
Wouldnt the arab influence be the 9%?
I dont know how to interpret the "middle eastern neolithic farmers" thing.
Apparently, those came to europe 9000 years ago, so their genetic code was in europe before the 63% corresponding to central europe during bronce age.
>>73856049
>Part of spain
>Not pretty much all of it.
>>73856049
I on vacations here so go figure. Just trying to understand the facts. Wanna help?
>>73856243
The whole upper third was never put under real military control, contrary to popular belief.
>>73855922
>>73856049
>>73856170
Look at the haplogroup map I posted.
And no the M.E. admixture is not early neolithic farmers. They are R1a mostly, and had light features.
I'm Assyrian born in Iraq and I look whiter than this guy
>>73856247
yes, burger. they are moors
>>73856438
The link I posted literally says "ME neolithic farmers" for the 18% part, associated with haplogroups H,J,K,M, etc
>>73856889
Middle eastern yes, European neolithic farmers no.
What are you having trouble understanding? nearly a 1/4 of the Iberian genome is non-European.
>>73857059
What haplogroups there are not european?
Neolithic farmers are not european?
If so, why? I mean, they came to europe 9000 years ago, why they are not considered european?
>>73856629
Even most western turks look whiter than him.
>>73857059
how much of that does it say is from around 9000 years ago and how much is from the moors and such?
>>73854928
Levant Arabs and Southern Europeans are similar, but not Gulf Arabs.
>>73857456
E, E1b, J2 and a few others.
European Neolithic farmers came 9000 years ago from he middle east, were mostly R1b and were not the middle eastern/n.african influence brought by moors.
>>73856629
Assyrians are so racist.
>>73857766
http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/2014/10/10/results-from-asturias-spain-add-to-the-genographic-project-human-family-tree/
18% from around 9000 years ago, 9% from northern africa, apparently associated with the moor invasion.
Italians are closer related to Persians than any European
>>73857547
Some Assyrian at my school. What ethnicity would you say?
>>73854928
There's probably some shared Neolithic ancestry I can usually tell a full on Arab apart from a Southern European, you probably wouldn't think this person is an Italian if you saw him
>>73858002
We are surrounded by Turks, Arabs, Kurds, Persian who want to kill us, covert us and rape our women. We are hostile towards everyone. I have a couple mixed family members with American fags.
>>73857907
quite the opposite friend, Levant Arabs can be very light skinned and have light eyes. Southern Europeans resemble the dark Arabs of central/eastern Arabia the most. Pic related, Palestinan schoolchildren
>>73858115
this guy is Pakistani/Indian trying to pass off as something lighter
>>73858115
In fact, he could perfectly be a spaniard, a portuguese, a italian, a greek, even a croatian, slovenian, british, syrian...
But if I had to choose one I would say he is from somewhere in the middle east/iran, dont ask me why.
>>73858123
That guy is caricaturized so he is not a good example, but look at the woman behind him. Its very unusual to see people as such even in southern spain. Anyways, there are some cases, can confirm.
>>73858123
These people are clearly Pakistani
>>73854928
Southern Europeans are white enough to act like human beings, but dark enough that I wouldn't want my daughter marrying one when she grows up.
>>73854928
Yes. I'm Italian but get mistaken for a Lebanese.
>>73858399
>t. Levant Arab trying to convince people how white I am
stop dude, just be proud of your shit and be successful to set an example
>>73855425
>Completely white family
>Live in the north
>Mom moved to Florida ten years ago
>Looks like a fucking beaner
>I stayed up north pale as a ghost
Use common sense location and climate effect skin tones.
>>73858483
He told me he was Assyrian. He does look pretty fucked desu and eyes look chinky.
>>73858399
If I took a picture of a school where I am now (northern spain) you will be surprised. Almost every child has fair hair.
Its not that common among adults.
>>73858640
Expect a lot of 'Arabs are white, guys' threads in the future on /pol/. Probably sometime after the shilling for Hilldawg ends.
>>73858684
It's his mum's fault, she probs can't bear to tell him who his actual dad is
>>73856424
>>73858399
average spaniard face vs average french face
they dont look THAT different
>>73858890
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB FAT FUCKING CUNT
NO ONE LIKES AMERICA ITS A SHIT COUNTRY
EVERYONE THINKS YOU ARE A JOKE
FUCKING END YOURSELF
>>73855310
Iran is a mix of fucking everything holy shit
>>73858123
That guy is from Pak-Afghan bordering Khyber region...Why would he resemble North Africans?
>>73858804
His parents are on the opposite end of the spectrum. His mom looks Sicilian and his dad looks like a fucking brit with pink skin and shit but he speaks Italian.
I think this fucker was just trolling me when he said he was Assyrian. He might actually be Italian... Even his last name sounds Italian.
>>73859170
Shouldn't you be hacking someone to death with a machete, Bagel?
>>73858987
Both is bullshit. Left looks gypsy right looks Polish
>>73859164
>ur a joke and I don't like u
>t. new zealand
top kek, literally like a fly getting into my home and angrily buzzing around as I try to swat it
>>73859247
But I know a girl from France who looks just like that
>>73859164
calm down boi
>>73859246
It's Friday dude, the start of weekend...I only work my machete magic on weekdays...
>Bagel
No I'm not a Polish Jew.
>>73854928
yes
>>73859349
your home is a reddit knock off internet forum because you've literally been bullied out of real life
that must feel pretty bad
>>73859578
>on weekdays
How is that? Here in europe, people work during the week and violence happens on weekends.
>>73859740
>bullied out of real life
I like this way of saying it
>>73859729
Dont forget the eternal moorgypsy, aka portugal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tn5C4jw0-uM
nope
It's pretty easy to tell
>Are Spaniards and Italians currently invading your country with millions of immigrants due to their countries being retarded inbred shitholes?
no?
Then it's not the same thing
>>>73859994
ABSOLUTELY HUE
>>73860115
>>73860229
>>73859800
>people work during the week
That's what I said, pre-planned chopping up people with machete and escaping is serious work, and I only work at weekdays...not comparable to getting assblasted drunk on weekends in the football stadium and beating up strangers.
>>73859994
>moorgypsy
moornigger, stupid
>>73860293
>>73860328
Oh ok...so the difference is here is just a hobby, while you do it at a professional level. Makes sense.
>>73854928
I read this study of the genetics of European ethnicities and I think Greeks were 3-4 times closer genetically to Palestinians than to Finns. That pretty much means that you're right.
>>73854928
Yes. Both need to die. Add Balkans and Romania there while we at it.
>>73860750
But I thought you and Serbia were brothers?
>>73860699
wrong
>>73860699
>were 3-4 times closer genetically to Palestinians than to Finns
Thats not surprising. I dont think you understand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVlOC0bpFq0
>>73860934
W.T.Actual.F !
>>73859166
It's so mixed because of its location. It connect Europe to Southeast Asia, and Russia to the Arabian Peninsula.
>>73860825
Fuck no. We lost Empire because of them. Idiot czar decided it's a good idea to protect "orthodox brothers" from zee Germans while having a political unrest and plots within Empire. Our brothers are Poles, Slovaks, Czecks, Ukranians, Austrians. Yugos can go fuck themselves. Pieces of shit.
>this man is unironically considered white in Spain
>>73854928
>>73854928
catalufo fuck off
>>73857987
Retarded post. You're saying J2 (Caucasian/Greco/Anatolian) is less European than J1 (Semitic)?
>>73858250
No such thing as Assyrian anymore, sorry to break the news. It's as retarded as saying Syrians are Phoenicians. You're Iraqi.. Get over it.
>>73862288
There's technically still 100k or so true Assyrian in Iraq. They're all pussies though. I suspect they'll be wiped out within two decades.
>>73859166
There tons of ethnicities in Iran. Most diverse place after Africa. "Benefit" from being the world's capital for nearly a millenia.
>>73860699
>>73860836
No he's actually right.
>>73854928
No. Arabs all have mangled, deformed and mutilated benis. Europeans do not
>>73862355
Too bad they won't die out soon enough. Plenty of those cuckolds in Sweden, Norway, Australia, UK and Germany. Like a good parasitic cuckolds they are, they tend to hide in richest countries and brag about their warrior culture and glorious heritage. Pathetic.
>>73861773
And too white for Sweden.
https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/reference-populations/
according to this list Spaniards have as much middle eastern dna as Germans do, surposingly brits and danes have over 15% middle eastern dna like germans
>>73863159
and just as suspected Puerto Ricans are niggers 25% nigger as compared to Mexicans only 4% negro
>>73855310
>greeks are more african than us
CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>73858536
You're insane if you think he could pass as a local in croatia, slovenia, serbia or any ex-yu country.
He looks like a gypsy or an albozerg.
