/pol/ we got a problem
>>73847402
>the obama REGIME
>>73847402
So glad I don't have a daughter.
>>73847402
Good! I think transgender people deserve the same rights and services as everyone else. I would like to see their medical treatments covered by federal insurance desu.
>>73847402
Please... for the love God, please tell me this isn't real??
>>73847402
>US Orders Public Schools to Allow Transgender Access to Restrooms
"Gender identity" is a fucking joke.
Anorexia? "Mental illness, you need help."
Jumper on a ledge? "Mental illness, you need help."
Old person wants to kill themselves with a doctor's help? "Suicide is wrong. That's unethical."
Heroin addict? "You need prison or treatment."
Want to cut your penis off? "It's their body they can do what they want."
Why has the entire world gone fucking insane?
Trannies already have access to restrooms.
>>73848780
You mean their elective plastic surgery?
Transgender surgery needs to be banned for being unethical. The surgeons that perform it are unethical. These butchers will literally do anything for money.
Every insane person who supports trannies, or men showering with women, or men being in the same bathroom as little girls should be forced by gunpoint to watch this video:
[spoiler]http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tv/image/1461/82/1461822480588.webm[/spoiler]
>>73849367
>it's unethical cus it upsets muh feels!!!
>under 6 months left
>>73849367
jesus christ
>>73849894
Cutting a guy's dick off is not unethical? Then why was Lorena Bobbitt arrested?
Do you think Nazi Human Experimentation was ethical?
If I got sking rafts from a dead nigger and passed myself off a nigger, do you think that's ethical?
The only people whose "feels" are getting upset, are mentally deranged retards who don't know what the fuck X and Y chromosomes are.
Despite the obvious butchery involved, post-op trannies are also 20 times more likely to suicide (if you actually care about their well-being, which I know you don't.)
>>73850203
Is that picture supposed to be some kind of counter-argument?
John Money coined the term "gender role" in 1955. Much of feminism is a rejection of traditional gender roles. But for some strange reason, people started confusing "gender role" with "gender" itself and started nonsensically claiming that gender IS a role, that gender is a performance, that gender is behavior. Meaning if someone changed their behavior they could change their gender, which is bullshit.
Aided and abetted by postmodernist philosophy and concepts like social constructionism, people in academia have had their head up their own ass for decades, and since "gender studies" isn't a real science, there have been a lack of real scientists calling them out on their complete and utter horse shit.
I could accept an argument that masculinity and feminity are a spectrum, but that is not gender. Sex is gender, gender is sex. Humans are either XX or XY. Put that on restroom doors for all I care.
Edge cases like XXY or hermaphrodites still don't support the idea that gender is a spectrum. Artifically injecting hormones can allow someone to be more masculine or feminine, but they still can't change their chromosomes.
In the future, if someone used CRISPR/Cas9 genome editing to change the X/Y chromosones in every cell in their body, someone could transform, but that doesn't mean gender is a spectrum.
The whole idea of "gender identity" has no more relevance than some teenager trying to find their "identity." I could accept an argument that all "identities" are social constructs, meaning gender identities are also social constructs, but that is different than gender, which is not abstract, it's biological.
>>73850446
That's a dude wearing women's lingerie. Just because you wear women's lingerie doesn't mean you get a free pass to the girl's bathroom. That's fucking retarded.
Sorry you've been on the Internet so long that you think tranny porn is normal. Sorry you've desensitized yourself to so much porn that you can no longer get aroused by the opposite sex.
>>73850246
>post-op trannies are also 20 times more likely to suicide
That's literally not true.
Let me guess, you're quoting that one study that everyone from paul mchugh to average shitposters misinterprets by ignoring the demographic data that shows that the group after 1989 showed no statistically significant difference from the rate of the general population.
>>73851004
Yeah. I am.
Just because some mentally ill faggot bingewatched all of Nip/Tuck doesn't mean he gets to use the women's restroom.
>>73849081
but it is a Mental illness and has a treatment. it's called Hormone treatment
>>73849367
Yes. I think governments should pay for the transgenders to transition.
>>73847402
>King Obama commands schools to do something
>Schools say "no, we'd rather decide for ourselves on this issue"
What happens?
>>73851867
Students stage walkout protests to stick up for their trans friends.
>>73850684
It's funny because john money's work and the david reimer case was supposed to prove that gender identity is mutable and therefor trannies choose to be how they are but it actually showed the opposite, that gender identity is inset and unchanging.
Intersex disorders simply show that there is in-between room in sexual expression due to errors in development, thus the name intersex.
Similar differences in the sexual dimorphism of the brain might explain trannies and gay people and even more femminie men/masculine women to some extent.
>>73851781
thats like saying the treatment for suicidal tendency is suicide
>>73851867
They get lawsuits and lose federal funding. Liberal schools wont go through with this.
>>73847402
Remember when States Rights were a thing?
>>73852084
Certain states encourage this behavior. Schooling should be on a county level.
>>73852024
except doctors take care of your health on the whole process, and the treatment it's the most effective to give the patient a most stable mental health to be productive and live in society.
if there were other meds to cure that they will give them.
>>73847402
This nigger trying to do as much damage as he can before he hands over the whitehouse?
>>73851791
It actually was covered until sjw radical feminists teamed up with religious conservatives gave political opinions to override medical policy with fear-mongering and moralizing and with federal coverage gone private followed and is still slowly recovering.
>>73851224
>Huh this sounds interesting, might as well look it up.
>Myths about Transition regrets: Huff Post
>Trannys aren't mentally insane: Transadvocate
>My Anus is bleeding: Reddit.
I don't know why I bothered.
>>73852468
try this http://www.sexchangeregret.com/
>>73851781
What have the cartels been putting in your water, jose?
>>73852024
Different disorders can have different treatments, for trannies the only treatment that at all turns them into functional members of society is transition.
A therapy or magic pill treatment would be great but it simply doesn't exist.
Pro-tip: you've shared a restroom with a trans person already and the universe didn't end.
>>73851791
Should governments pay for your new nose? Stupid women who want a bigger ass? For Joan Rivers to get her throat scraped?
It's fucking cosmetic surgery, nothing more.
>>73851964
It's true, gender is unchanging. "Gender identity" is a fucking myth, it's literally a belief.
And most trannies aren't hermaphrodites anyway.
>>73852468
So you saw a couple liberal sites in your search results and got triggered and abandoned trying to educate yourself at all about a topic? Is that your usual policy?
Try looking up the actual study and looking at the data.
That's what you should always do when you're discussing research so you actually know what you're discussing.
>>73852897
>"Gender identity" is a fucking myth, it's literally a belief.
[citation needed]
>>73852244
Smoking pot would probably put someone with gender dysphoria more at ease than fucking hormone treatments.
"I want to cut my dick off"
>Go ahead! It's your right!
"I want to smoke this plant"
>You belong in prison!
>>73853008
http://waltheyer.typepad.com/blog/2015/10/data-shows-male-to-female-transgender-brains-are-not-feminized-1.html
Don't really get why you people care so much. Just go in the fucking stall if it bothers you that bad.
>>73853062
I meant a peer-reviewed scientific paper, not someone's anti-transexual blog.
>>73852789
It's a cosmetic treatment that's extremely effective at reducing their mortality rate, more so than many other treatments that you don't sperg out about because they don't trigger your feels about the degenerates.
Medicine works by best results.
>>73847402
President can't do jack shit, schools are state level only on things like this which is why common core isn't in every single state
Government can only make suggestions
>>73853080
Then why can't they just use the bathroom that corresponds with their actual gender? If it's not that big of a fucking deal, right?
>>73852695
Have they tried smoking pot? It works for veterans with PTSD, it works for people with chronic pain, it works for people with depression.
To say that transition is the only treatment for trannies is bullshit.
That's like saying the only treatment for people with God complexes like L. Ron Hubbard or David Koresh or Warren Jeffs is worshipping them like a God.
People say that people with anorexia have a mental disorder.
Why is starving yourself condemned but chopping your dick off is celebrated?
>>73853202
>Let them use the restroom they want
>NO!
>Allow me to rephrase that: let them use the restroom they want or get your own funding.
I identify as a koala, where is my bathroom you bigots?
>>73850684
Solid post.
Are you all unaware of the hilarity this is going to create? If this backfires, and it will, the explanations will be spectacular.
>>73852976
I was poking fun at the immediate damage control, to the point that 3rd party sites come before the actual studies. Calm your autism m8.
>>73853180
Except the suicide rate increases.
>>73853180
>It's a cosmetic treatment that's extremely effective at reducing their mortality rate
You mean their suicide rate, evidence of which you have not posted?
If they regret it and want to detransition, should we pay for that too?
Should we start paying for an ever increasing list of body modifications that are supposed to "improve the person's mental well being?"
>>73853260
Because their retards that don't know any better. I didn't make my post to try to defend trans people in any way, but the fact that this is actually a 'political' issue right now is retarded. I can almost guarantee that most people in this thread have been in the same bathroom as a trans person and didn't know it.
>>73849894
> i'm born a man and I think im a woman because of muh feelings
>>73847402
Why are you mad at this, though? This is a good thing...
Now schools will not be able to do anything if a guy walks into the girls bathroom and just pulls his dick out for lulz
>>73853514
>Dat slippery slope fallacy
Man, look at all those people that married dogs after homosex marriage was legalized.
>>73853501
Honestly anon idc anymore, about their suicide, most trans are liberals anyways.
I don't get why LGBT wants this so bad?
if they pass it wouldn't be a problem before these laws. Now creeps have an excuse and can just say they are trans
>>73853062
>literally a blog
Are you fucking serious? I could not care less about this pointless fucking issue, but learn how properly support your arguments
>>73853572
>>73853572
This.
When Chad identifies as womyn that day and bathroom orgies happen it will only make more comedy for us on /pol/.
>>73852897
>"Gender identity" is a fucking myth, it's literally a belief
That's literally what the reimer case was supposed to show, that there is no inset gender identity and if you switch stuff around people will adapt to the situation and be fine, and it failed spectacularly.
"True hermaphrodites" are incredibly rare but there is a wide range of different intersex disorders. They are about as common as trannies based on the data we have but there are probably even more since most intersex people don't realize that they are until they have some health problem or some sign is noticed by accident while treating something else.
There actually is some overlap of trannies and people with intersex disorders but anyway the point is that intersex disorders show that there is room between the sexes due to abnormalities and we know that there are sexually dimorphic regions of the brain that have been observed to be different in some trannies.
>>73853540
there are so few trans people..I doubt I ever have
>>73853378
In my dog's ass, apparently.
>>73853680
>why LGBT wants this so bad
Because there is resistance, that is literally the only reason. This is a non-issue that the right has turned into an issue by pushing back. People can use whatever the fuck bathroom they want; it literally does not matter
>>73853610
>Man, look at all those people that married dogs after homosex marriage was legalized.
>automatically assuming people who are against publicly funding gender transition surgery are also against gay marriage
But, totally, just like when people said it was a "slippery slope fallacy" that people would start to pour out and defend/justify pedophilia. Glad that's not happening at all either. Ha ha.
>>73853778
>>73853778
As a male I can say idc much about the things that enter my bathroom, nor do I care what independent wymyn deal with. They are by majority liberal, and genetically senseless beings. I'm tired of caring about this issue anon.
Protecting chillins
Protecting wymyn
Protecting the mentally ill.
This whole spiral will crash and burn on its own, we can spare the energy and just laugh when it does.
Also want to point out that if this 'movement' does end up going through women will finally start feeling creeped out and hate trans people. Even the extreme progressive women may feel creeped out by having a guy play dress up just to use their bathroom. This might not be as bad as some of you think because it could potentially get women to finally recognize that trans people are just disturbing mentally-ill creeps.
>>73853273
They've tried just about every treatment under the sun from sex-affirming hormones and conversion therapy to electroshock and anti-psychotics and transition has been settled on as the best available option.
Also plenty of trannies seem to smoke weed.
>To say that transition is the only treatment for trannies is bullshit.
I mean you could treat them differently but it's the only thing that has been shown to be empirically statistically effective.
>Why is starving yourself condemned but chopping your dick off is celebrated?
Because transition is extremely effective at reducing the mortality rate of trannies but allowing anorexics to starve themselves has a very high mortality rate.
Different conditions can have different treatments, it's whatever works not what seems like it should be right to you.
>>73849367
I love gore videos and even seeing this is unnatural.
His reactions to it are probably the most disturbing thing. He's ecstatic that someone is mutilating his genitals... and he's paying them to do so.
He will never be a woman. Gender is not a social construct, it is a physical construct.
The only people who should even be allowed to undergo such a surgery are hermaphrodites who've been psychologically proven to be more female than male.
>>73853970
>I am just like you and this is no problem just ignore it goy
hmmm rare shill tactic, interesting.
>>73854231
>Also want to point out that if this 'movement' does end up going through women will finally start feeling creeped out and hate trans people. Even the extreme progressive women may feel creeped out by having a guy play dress up just to use their bathroom. This might not be as bad as some of you think because it could potentially get women to finally recognize that trans people are just disturbing mentally-ill creeps.
This is so true.
Gentlemen, lets stop protecting them. I think enough is enough. The women in the US deserve a "trans" person straight out of the illegal detainment facility.
The liberal schools deserve the lawsuits.
All we have to say is "told you so".
This is like a vacation.
>>73853956
You need to get off the internet, bro. Pedophilia is still a hated thing in the real world. Well, outside Utah.
>matching their gender identity
>only two bathrooms
What the goddamn fuck, Oblammers?
>>73853378
Intersex people exist, neurological dimorphism exists, hopefully you can connect the dots.
No inter-species condition exists.
>>73854251
>empirically statistically effective.
>still waiting to post stats though
![[The Wall getting higher in the distance].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eUSBcId.jpg "[The Wall getting higher in the distance].jpg")
>>73847402
>it's 2016
>obammer just said i can use the women's bathroom if it matches my gender identity
>go into the women's bathroom
>no one can discriminate against me or they will be arrested for aggravated bigotry in the 2nd degree
>even though the bathroom "matches my gender identity", i am still 100% attracted to other women like myself
>go into a stall next to a cutie while she takes a big dump
>mfw obammer just made it totally legal for me to hang out in stalls while attractive women take big, fat, piping hot dumps around me
what a time to be alive
>>73851781
Anorexia has a treatment. It's called eating less so you feel skinnier! It doesn't matter if you already resemble an Auschwitz survivor, just eat less!
Bulimia has a treatment. It's called purging so you don't feel fat! It doesn't matter whether you're actually fat, just purge!
Transgenderism has a treatment. It's called hormone therapy. It doesn't matter if you're biologically a male or female, just pretend you are!
>>73848780
>same rights as everyone else
Already there, anon. Every transgender freak with a penis can use the men's room, same as normal people with penises. Same for transgendered freaks with vaginas and their normal counterparts; all are free to use the women's room. Equal rights for all.
>>73853495
I can kinda understand why "damage control" could be needed when every moron with a keyboard and hate-boner for trannies parrots the same statistic based on ignoring the actual data of the study, you know to point out the data they're ignoring.
>>73852766
Pro-tip: Trannies have already used a restroom that corresponds to their biological sex and X/Y chromosomes and the universe didn't fucking end.
>>73850203
That's actually pretty damn convincing at first glance.
Fucking science is getting to close. What next shoulder reduction and vocal cord surgeries , so we can never tell the difference!
>>73854612
Cool empathy, bro.
>>73854392
>Pedophilia is still a hated thing in the real world
I know it is- but, the argument has, at least once, reared its head on Gawker.
>Well, outside Utah
And various secret societies, especially in Europe.
>>73851224
I have 2 trans friends
literally both of them have lamented about having lost MULTIPLE members of their community to suicide in the last couple years.
When you consider that the average person has maybe one person they personally interact with commit suicide in their whole life, but that it's just an accepted part of the trans community, you don't need a study to know there's a problem.
I know people who won't full transition because they're afraid they'll hate themselves after it.
So what your saying is that if I don't have any traceable evidence of me being born a male then I can claim myself as a female and just walk into the girls restroom whenever I want?
>>73854665
>Taking Gawker seriously
I found the problem.
>>73853008
Ever heard of identity theft? Identities can be stolen.
Can you steal someone's gender identity? No, because it's fucking make-believe, it's a belief. Like a homeless person who thinks he's literally the second coming of Jesus.
Stop enabling people with mental disorders.
>>73854594
>you know to point out the data they're ignoring.
>you know, the data I keep referencing but have yet to post.
>>73853080
That's all trannies can go in. The fucking stall.
>>73851867
The federal government sues the school
the school wins, because literally the only thing they can punish them with is taking away federal funding, and that has to be done by law, not executive order, since it's appropriations.
There is literally nothing Obama can legally do.
Besides, if he makes some order, he'll be gone before it gets implemented.
>>73854741
Please post your degree in psychiatry/psychology as well as your peer-reviewed research on the subject.
No hurry, I'll wait.
>>73854719
Gawker's turned over more than $100 million already this year
God fucking dammit, this whole argument is so stupid it makes my head hurt.
>let anyone use whatever restroom they want cuz feels, BY LAW
It's so easy to troll it's not even funny. I'll walk into the ladies room sporting my full beard and a budweiser t-shirt and get everyone in an uproar because nobody can do shit about it
>everyone has to use the restroom that matches their genitals BY LAW
So what are you gonna do, post some nigger in a white tux outside of every restroom who checks your birth certificate before your allowed into any public restroom? Expensive and impractical as fuck.
Fucking government should have just sat this one out. Just go into whatever bathroom you look like you should go in, this isn't fucking hard. And fuck all of you for giving this non-issue the time of day when there is way more important shit to worry about.
>>73854714
No. These trans bathrooms are single occupant. You can't just walk into a woman's bathroom
>>73854719
You and I both know Gawker doesn't pull shit out of the air- in order for the author of the article to even feel like it was appropriate to argue, there had to be existing social conditions conducive to reinforcing his feeling that he was right.
Gawker posting stupid shit isn't the issue. It the people, on the publishing and receiving end, who think it's true.
>>73854741
SJW consider gender and sex two different things
sex is what your born as (chromosomes)
gender is what they consider social norms for the sex
>>73847402
more like you got a problem
obama wont stay for long so just try to endure and fuck off
>>73854883
and it all goes to Hulk Hogan.
>>73853936
Yes it does fucking matter, i do not want some freak mentally ill man in the same bathroom as my 10 year old daughter.
>>73853180
Really? I'm the one sperging out? It's trannies that are.
I'm the one who's triggered? It's trannies that are.
I'm the one worried about feels? It's trannies that are.
I'm sure Botox is effective at making old hags not want to kill themselves, but that doesn't mean they instantly became 20 years younger, "trans-age-al."
Plastic surgery is not medicine you fucking idiot.
A man feels like a woman? Smoke a fucking joint and chill the fuck out.
>>73847402
Trump doesn't care so /pol/ will defend this
>>73854883
>Hulk Hogan turned over more that $100 million already this year
FTFY
>>73854616
>vocal cord surgeries
It already exists, anon
http://www.yesonvc.net/disease/feminization_surgery.asp
http://voicedoctor.net/surgery/pitch/feminization-laryngoplasty
>>73854991
Oh no, you're totally calm.
>>73849081
This.
You don't reinforce a schizophrenic's delusion of being God by referring to him as My Lord. Real gender dysmorphic people need serious psychological help - they need to change, not the rest of the world. The attention seekers jumping into the oppression bandwagon should be gassed.
>>73854741
>Can you steal someone's gender identity?
If someone steals your dick and balls by castrating you, the resulting loss of your major testosterone producing organs would probably fuck up, is not destroy your gender identity, both physically and mentally.
Why the fuck is this becoming a problem in SCHOOLS?
Jesus fuck keep this degeneracy away from kids.
>>73853464
These pants-on-head-retarded bathroom laws letting trannies into the wrong restroom are literally a license for voyeurs to put on a wig and sit down in a stall in the girls restroom and record girls all day long. Who can stop them? You can't doubt someone's "gender identity" because it's unprovable!
Girls go to the girls bathroom, boys go the boys bathroom.
This is shit you learn in kindergarten. Progressives are so fucking stupid.
Ayy lmao
Female bathrooms are cleaner anyways
>>73855197
Remember when gay marriage was going to lead to the end of the wor- oh wait.
To think amerifats have the nerve to act as if they aren't among the most cucked of the bunch together with Sweden, France and United Pakistan.
>>73853680
They're just doing it for the sole reason of causing conflict because they know they can.
They don't have anything real to fight about anymore so they push for bullshit.
If you give them an inch they'll keep trying to take more and more and more.
Like a child they're testing the limits to see what they can get away with.
Treat these people as children. When you whether through their tantrum hold your ground and firmly tell them "no".
If you give in then they'll just find something else to throw a tantrum about.
Their entire personality is built around this shit.
It was never about tolerance, they wanted forced acceptance
>>73855042
Now all that's left is vagina implants
>tfw you will be fooled and technically raped by a tranny in your lifetime
>>73855390
You've clearly never been in one.
>>73853180
So you're saying if I threaten to kill myself if I don't get a government paid xbox, then I should get a government paid xbox?
So you're saying that if teenage neckbeards want to shoot up schools because they can't get a girlfriend, the government should pay for prostitutes?
Why not use that money for something a bit more worthwhile than chopping off a dick.
>>73855760
>So you're saying that if teenage neckbeards want to shoot up schools because they can't get a girlfriend, the government should pay for prostitutes?
That's a novel concept.
>>73855412
What are you talking about? Everything that conservatives said about gay marriage that liberals replied with "muh slippery slope" came true.
They said it'd be forced onto people whether they liked it or not.
That it could open up a situation where Christians are forced to go against their religion to appease gays. Gays went out of their way to fuck with Christian business owners and start shit just because the Christians were uncomfortable with it.
The first part of the first amendment protects your right to religious freedom. Forcing a Christian to do something that is very clearly a sin in their religion is textbook religious persecution.
They didn't just keep to themselves. They wanted to force Christians to do what they wanted.
It also led to a fuck ton of LGBT bullshit being pushed. Everything from pedos to bestiality to polymegaultragenderqueers.
Everything scalia said would happen happened.
Everything conservatives said would happen happened.
Give it time. There is absolutely no point in getting married nowadays. There is no benefit. It was originally an institution based around procreation. Gays getting married serves no purpose except to act like two unequal things are equal.
>>73853610
Look at all the people who defend Woody Allen.
And I'm sure that bestiality is on the progressive agenda for the future. Look at all the "pansexuals" and "polysexuals" out there.
>If the dog enjoys it, what's the big deal?
And one "philosopher king" on the Supreme Court should not have the power to reinterpret an amendment about freed slaves to really mean that two men can get married.
Regardless of how someone feels about gay marriage, they didn't need a new amendment to do that?
They needed an amendment to get women the right to vote. Why didn't they just fucking cite the 14th Amendment if that's all it took?
The fact that one unelected person on the Supreme Court has more power than the President is a fucking joke.
>>73855760
>the government should pay for prostitutes?
Probably be a lot more dead prostitutes.
Is there a dead child/dead prostitute coefficient?
>>73855554
That already exists as well, anon
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/lab-grown-private-parts-vagina-implants-cure-rare-disorder-n77136
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lab-grown-vaginas-implanted-successfully-in-4-teenagers/
http://www.popsci.com/article/science/four-women-doing-fine-after-getting-vagina-implants-made-their-own-cells
>>73853501
Not for modern trannies.
>>73853514
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885
This is the study that is the source of the famous "20%" statistic that anti-trans activists love to quote and led to paul mchugh being discredited.
The trouble being that the study was not designed to draw the kind of conclusions he tried to claim and so did not differentiate groups based on age demographics. Ignoring the demographic data allows one to draw the "20%" conclusion over the entirety of the population but looking at the age groups tells more.
>Even though the overall mortality was increased across both time periods, it did not reach statistical significance for the period 1989–2003.
>>73856351
Fucking finally.
>>73856083
>forced on people whether they liked it or not
Don't be homophobic.
>Christians are forced to go against their religion
[citation needed]
>First Amendment
Allows you to have a religion; the government does not have to protect you from getting your ickle feelings hurt because of that religion. Nobody forces you to have X/Y/Z religion.
>They didn't keep to themselves
Oh boo fucking hoo, did the bad widdle homosexuals not let you pretend they don't exist? Shame on them!
>>73854816
no no their is still the fall semester.
>>73853738
>David Peter Reimer was a Canadian man born biologically male but raised female following medical advice and intervention after his penis was accidentally destroyed during a botched circumcision in infancy.
That doesn't prove what you think it does.
It proves that cutting off a guy's penis will not turn them into a female.
>>73853936
>People can use whatever the fuck bathroom they want; it literally does not matter
Yeah, maybe if you're shitting in the street in India or shitting in a hole in China.
Why do you think bathrooms were ever segregated by gender to begin with?
Progressives are pulling the same bullshit, saying something that everybody accepted as normal 10 years ago is now "bigotry." It's insane.
>>73856636
As a bisexual man I have to tell you that you're doing absolutely everything in your power to make things worse.
>>73855412
If not for you faggots legislating your social agenda from the bench, we would never be having this insane discussion about bathrooms. And once some state sues, this will go to the SCOTUS, and then the activists will be onto the next "civil rights" group. Probably pedophiles. Thanks faggot
>>73852766
Amber alert: Your daughter was raped by a man-woman's 12 inch dick
>>73854688
Great anecdotes.
>>73854991
>I'm sure Botox is effective at making old hags not want to kill themselves, but that doesn't mean they instantly became 20 years younger
If there was actually a huge problem of old people killing themselves over their wrinkles like with tranny suicide then it might justify botox as a treatment regardless of it not making people younger.
Again, medicine works by best results, stay mad.
>>73856970
>le pedophile boogeyman
Keep banging that drum, maybe it will come true some day.
so you all realize that this is already law in IL right? http://www.equalityillinois.us/issue/transgender/ and its been implimanted in every school
every buisness
every fucking house (i mean they were already uniex anyways. )
every goverment building
every single place that has a bathroom.
>>73857081
It will, and it will be your fault. Why don't you just go rape some kids and cut out the middle man?
>>73854251
Transition has been settled on by whom as the "best available option"? The tranny? And there is no actual "transition" to another sex, or another gender. It's merely appearances. Like a boob job.
How can you argue that transgender surgery reduces the mortality rate of trannies, when I've heard that post-op trannies are 20 times more likely to kill themselves?
And really, if someone should have the freedom to chop their dick off, why shouldn't they have the freedom to kill themselves? How can you be pro-transgender surgery but anti-suicide? "My body, my right" right?
And I'm sure there are plenty of anorexics who will tell you that their mortality rates are just fine. An anorexic doesn't have to eat zero food, just extremely few calories. And caloric restriction has been linked to longer lifespans. I'm not exactly defending anorexics, but their beliefs and their body modification is recognized as a mental disorder.
>>73857150
Ooooooooooo, if we let the gays marry people will marry dogs next, OOOooooOOOOooooOOOOoooo
>>73854650
Nice virtue signalling
>>73857289
Buzzwords across the universe!
[On the internet where words are meaningless!]
>>73847402
>america's conductor is the one creating the problem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmI-hGthrwA
>>73847402
Well, why not?
It opens so many ways for sexual abuse.
For example, you can abuse WtM trannies in men restroom or pretend to be MtW tranny and jerk off absolutely nude in the middle of women restroom and shout "CHESK YOUR CIS PRIVILEGE".
It's going to be funny.
For you.
>>73857263
I can tell your an obnoxious faggot who deserves to be chained to a pickup and dragged down a cobblestone road. No one is talking about dogs. This is about people. Keep your weird social agenda to yourself instead of forcing it onto everyone. Tolerance is a two way street.
>>73855760
If you're gonna kill yourself because you can't afford the things you want then the government could try to assist you with a job placement program.
That's kinda a separate issues from gender dysphoria though which is a specific condition that seems to have some biological connection and is very effectively treated by transition.
>Why not use that money for something a bit more worthwhile than chopping off a dick.
Effective medical treatments are pretty worthwhile.
I mean you could totally argue that the government shouldn't help at all with disabilities and disorders and stuff, that's one view.
>>73854392
Oh please. Woody Allen gets a free pass. Michael Jackson gets a free pass.
Hell, six coaches at Penn State knew what Jerry Sandusky was doing, and Paterno knew in 1976.
And all the arguments that the LGBT mafia make ("attraction is not a choice", "born that way", "love always wins") also apply to pedophiles (who wanted to march with all the faggots in the 90s).
You better believe that pedophilia is on the progressive agenda. You think it was an accident that all the pedophiles in Hollywood tried for 20 years to normalize homosexuality in the media because they love old men so much?
As long as we acknowledge that gender is entirely biological and trannies are mentally ill I don't really care what happens.
>>73854414
But if it's a personal belief, if it's a matter of "identity" politics, who are you to tell them any different? It's how he feels! It's fucking retarded.
>>73857495
You are mad. Is not big surprise.
>>73857573
>You think it was an accident that all the pedophiles in Hollywood tried for 20 years to normalize homosexuality in the media because they love old men so much?
[citation needed]
You've been on the Internet too long. Do you also drink the "Faked Moon Landing" Rite-Aid?
>>73857640
>keep your ideology but don't let it influence law
damn you shills really pushing this tactic
>>73847402
NORTH KOREA PLACING NUKES ON CHINA AND SOUTH KOREAS BORDERS CHINK WAR NOWWWWWWWWWWW
>>73853410
>>73853410
>>73853410
>>73853410
>>73847402
You mean YOU have a problem. I live in North Carolina, our bathroom problems have been solved
>>73847402
Who gives a cuck anyway. It's women that enabled this degeneracy anyway so its them that should suffer. Give it a few years and they'll start racking up creepy encounters with dudes in the stalls and theyll be begging for segregation again.
>>73856721
They had transition forced on them under the idea that there is no innate gender identity and they basically experienced gender dysphoria like a tranny contributing to them committing suicide.
Trans people are already experiencing gender dysphoria and transition is the treatment or at least the best one we have.
>It proves that cutting off a guy's penis will not turn them into a female.
It doesn't really matter if it turns them into a female/male, it brings their risk rates in-line with the general population and is an effective treatment to allow them to be contributing members of society.
>>73849367
I agree with your sentiments fampai. Trans surgery is unethical as fuck and imho goes against the Hippocratic oath. Talk about taking advantage of people who are vulnerable (Read: fucked in the head).
>Treat the mind, not the body
>>73854650
Encouraging mentally ill people to do this to their bodies is not "empathy":
http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tv/image/1461/82/1461822480588.webm
Encouraging boys and men to enter the women's restroom to take pictures and video, which will exist forever on the Internet, is not "empathy."
Telling anorexics they look "stunning" is not empathy.
Encouraging bulemics to vomit after every meal is not empathy.
Telling morbidly obese people "you go girl" and that they they look "fantastic" is not empathy.
How can anyone say that if someone wants to chop their dick off, they have every right to, but if they want to end their life, they need to be told not to?
How can people spend all their time whining about how often gay people kill themselves, and then go and tell trannies it's their body, they can do whatever the hell they want to it?
Fucking retards.
>>73849367
wait i have watched that video before... yay
>>73854392
and outside of the middle east :^)
>>73854688
How can any tranny or someone who is pro-tranny be anti-suicide?
I thought it was their body their choice? Who are you to tell them what they can and can't do to their own body?
Even gay people talk about coming out because boo hoo so many gay people kill themselves (nevermind that Native Americans have the highest suicide rates, and you don't see people calling for Elsa to have Native American lover).
>>73852084
shit, do you remember when rights for straight white males were a thing?
Seems like everyone is getting new "rights" these days except straight white males.
>>73852766
>implying trannies aren't 0.0001% of the population
I think odds are I haven't faggot
>>73857856
I'm speaking for myself. As long as people see reality as it is I don't care what happens. This issue is almost entirely inconsequential.
The west is in decline. People will march on the streets for gay marriage, legalizing weed, and nonsense like this but we get confirmation that the NSA can see what we are doing at anytime they want and no one cares. Things out of Orwell's 1984 and Huxley's Brave New World are coming out right before us and people are worried about what some retards do in the bathroom.
>>73847402
>implying it will be that easy
He started a war to bad he won't the around to finish it
>>73854857
Post yours.
Mammals can't change gender.
There are plenty of species that can. Mammals can't. So sorry.
And psychiatry is hardly even a science.
Hmm, decades ago homosexuality is considered a mental disorder. Oh, welp, they changed their minds.
Years ago narcissism was considered a mental disiorder. Oh, welp, they changed their minds.
Just a reminder that Trump literally has zero issue with this and even supports it
>>73852560
>ttp://www.sexchangeregret.com/
Are you actually citing this as a real source for an argument? Have you ever taken a Comp class?
obammunism
>>73857259
>Transition has been settled on by whom as the "best available option"? The tranny?
The statistics of what reduces their suicide and other risk rates and helps them to be relatively functional people.
>How can you argue that transgender surgery reduces the mortality rate of trannies, when I've heard that post-op trannies are 20 times more likely to kill themselves?
You've "heard"?
Care to post a source?
Oh wait, it's already been posted and it doesn't show what you think it does >>73856351
>why shouldn't they have the freedom to kill themselves?
Oh I totally think people should be able to make that choice in the name of freedom and autonomy especially for things liek terminal illness with great suffering but it generally has a negative impact on society and it's better to treat the cause of suicidal desires whenever possible.
>And I'm sure there are plenty of anorexics who will tell you that their mortality rates are just fine.
I don't think that's true though. tbqh I'm starting to get a bit tired so I don't care to look up more stats but I'm pretty sure anorexia/bulimia are really bad without treatment.
>>73852177
certain counties encourage this behaviour.
HOMESCHOOLING FOR EVERYONE! SHARE BATHROOM WITH DAD
>>73847402
http://civilrights.findlaw.com/discrimination/how-to-file-an-education-discrimination-complaint-with-the.html
They are encouraging rape
Time to sue
>>73858675
He asked for help and I provided him with help, what are you a fucking tranny
>>73858671
We're past that. Transgender bathrooms are small potatoes. Let them have that. They can teach kids whatever they want. Eventually the truth will come out. It's not worth it to fight over that stuff. Same with gay marriage and interracial marriage.
The important thing is the wall and keeping muslims out. All else can be forgiven.
>>73854943
And they're wrong.
Sex is gender, gender is sex. Gender is not behavior. You cannot become a woman by acting like a woman or dressing like a woman.
"Gender role" is not the same as gender. Gender role is a social role, social norms BASED on biological gender, but retards now think that "gender" means "gender role."
SJWs took two synonyms (sex/gender) and insist they are different things, with no proof at all. And more scientists should call them out on their bullshit. Mammals cannot change their gender.
It's like saying suns and stars are two different things.
What did you expect, he is married to a crossdresser.
>>73858905
Tell me that when you have a fucking dick chick walk on to the stall with your daughter
>>73852766
So much this. Trans bathrooms are a non-issue. Trump already invited Caitlyn Jenner into Trump tower to make a point, and she went there without issue.
Just like gay marriage where NOTHING bad happened as soon as it was legalized. It was just a bunch of worrying over nothing. Trump will slowly but surely make the right wing worry about the real issues and stop getting caught up in dumb shit like race, sexuality, and identity.
>>73855085
I'm not calm, because being surrounded by idiots is infuriating.
>>73859021
>walk on to the stall
?? My daughter will be inside the stall, as all girl's bathrooms are. The transgender woman will use the stall next to her at best without incident, just as they've already done.
Why are you so alarmed? If someone was insistent on harming my daughter in the bathroom, their sex wouldn't stop them and the fact that it was a female bathroom wouldn't either.
Besides there's no harm in letting them think they are whatever sex they want to be. Again, you're not looking at the big picture. Squabbling over shit like this just drives people away from our cause. Trump is smart. He knows this isn't important, so you need to have some faith in his judgement too.
I'm glad threads like these exist to remind me how everyone on 4chan is a sexually immature child
>>73858671
feels bad man. i love his anti globalism and shit i just wish he was more to the right on social issues. still voting for him in november though
>>73855142
If someone breaks into your house and chops off your dick and balls, you won't become a woman. You're still a man. You may feel like less of a man, people may make jokes and accuse you of being a woman, you're just a man who has survived a traumatic event (which is what all MTF trannies are).
>>73859199
>there's nothing wrong with mixed bathrooms
>>73857665
>But if it's a personal belief, if it's a matter of "identity" politics, who are you to tell them any different?
I go by the available research.
I mean in the name of freedom people totally should be able to have stripes and fur and shit just as much as people have tattoos or dye their hair ridiculous colors but there's no evidence for it being a specific possibly neurologically-based condition like gender dysphoria has and really most of the furry/interspecies/whatever you call them people I've seen just want to express some anthropomorphised ideal of some animal, few of them actually want to give up their human mind and rights to be an animal.
>>73859236
He is right about this though, and if you're voting for him you're voting in favor of transgender rights. Comes with the territory. So the country we'll be building a wall around will be a haven for homosexuals, transexuals, and minorities. He's only against illegal immigrants, so America becoming less white isn't a problem for him.
>>73859271
There isn't. Unisex bathrooms exist and they don't have higher incidences of rape. Believe it or not, people just go in there to shit or piss usually.
If you walked into a unisex bathroom, would your desire to rape women using it go up? Because it wouldn't for me. I'm not worried about it. Trump isn't worried about it.
>>73855412
Now private businesses are being forced to do things against their religious beliefs (or being sued for "discrimination" or having funding accoutns shut off), when freedom of religion is in the very first amendment.
Newsflash: "gay" is not a noun, it's a verb.
Gay marriage is fucking retarded too. There is zero reason for two people who can't have kids to get married.
inb4 all the barren women have their feelings hurt.
Most gay men are manwhores and don't want to be married anyway.
And how exactly did women need an amendment to gain the right to vote, while faggots only needed a single unelected person on the Supreme Court to be a majority vote to reinterpet the 14th Amendment (which was about freed slaves) to mean that men have the right to marry men?
Why are there any amendments past the 14th if any judge can just use it as an empty vessel to make it mean whatever they want it to mean because of a bunch of niggers in the 1900s?
>>73847402
Has any president and I mean ANY fallen so hard and so far? First, who gives Obama the right to arbitrarily deny federal funding to any school? Second, people are entitled to their opinion on this, legislating it is wrong. States should legalize this.
I just hate that this bullshit is such an issue we need a national law to allow transgenders to use their bathrooms, its become beyond retarded to some twilight zone level of incomprehensible that a sitting President would even wade into this issue.
Terrible economic president, terrible at keeping this country together, terrible healthcare plan, and it really sucks because his first term was actually really good.
>>73856083
Exactly.
It would have been better if one of the Supreme Court justices died earlier, because it's clear that they're the ones really running the country. Who needs the legislative branch and new amendments if judges can just keep "reinterpreting" the 14th Amendment to mean whatever the hell they want it to mean? And it's unconscionable that several of the Supreme Court justices had performed gay marriags before their decision and did not recuse themselves from the case.
The death of one Supreme Court justice has more impact on America than the death of a president.
>>73854414
Neurological Dimorphism sure does exist, pal. That's why we should treat it instead of lopping people's cocks off. It's simple and it goes like this:
Are you at significant risk of suicide if we don't cut your cock off and make you fake boobs? If yes ---> You may be mentally ill and need help.
Is a mentally ill/suicidal person qualified to make irreversible decisions such as mutilating their body? If yes ---> We should allow box cutters in psych wards. If no ---> do not let them have the surgery. In both instances, a medical professional is neglecting their oath to do no harm if they perform the surgery.
I'm a guy, and if the line is long for the men's restroom, I use the woman's restroom. Who gives a shit about restrooms? Use whatever you feel like. This is such a non issue that it hurts me physically to see it in the news.
>>73854555
trips of truth
>>73859927
That's not usually the case, though. Women take longer to piss partially because of the process and partially because men's facilities/urinals are more convenient for large volume than a stall.
>>73855100
It's like people never took biology where you're either XY chromosome or XX chromosome. Unless you have an abnormality and not all of which are necessarily Down syndrome-like (such as XXX super female syndrome).
They can take all the hormones they want but that won't ever change their chromosomes.
>>73854616
pretty convincing at second and third glance too. im pretty sure its actually just a chick, id be totally fooled.
>dont ask, don't tell
>>73856636
Is anyone who is accused of being "homophobic" actually afraid of gays? Or even have an irrational hatred of all gays? It's the new "anti-Semite." It's a word used to shut down any and all criticism.
And yes, Christians have been forced to go against their religious beliefs. If you don't cater this wedding, which you believe to be a sin, we'll sue your ass. I'm sorry, where were all the people calling them bigots 15 years ago?
Do you also support pedo rights? Or do you say "boo fucking hoo", "the government does not have to protect you from getting your feelings hurt"?
Some people should be shamed. I mean, that's nearly all the LGBT mafia does, shame people for their religious beliefs. Shame on you for your "Christian identity"!
>>73859927
Agreed. Seen it many times. Was at a Starbucks the other day, and the dude ahead of me tried to get into the men's bathroom, was locked, and said "fuck it i'm not waiting" and went into the women's bathroom.
Even I've used the women's when I had to go.
Literally who gives a shit.
>>73847402
>who the fuck cares
Let's focus on the fact the economy is on the brink of collapse, Kay?
>>73854650
you dont even know what empathy is. If your mate was convinced that he was a loaf of bread and wanted have his hands cut off, how would you feel about it?
>>73847402
>a US administration is literally advocating for the mentally ill
>>73859033
Deathly cringe jesus christ you utter faggot
>>73860245
Nigga I think when every 6th post in a 3 hour old thread is you, it's time to take a break. I'm sure what you're saying is very intellectually stimulating but god damn, do something else for a while.
hmm
>>73857058
How is people killing themselves a problem? Isn't it their body, and don't they have the right to do whatever they want to it? Isn't that the argument for abortion? Isn't that the argument for transgender surgery?
Do you think someone has the right to chop their dick off and get boob implants, but they don't have the right to end their own life?
And I mentioned Botox because you cannot change your age with surgery anymore than you can change your gender. You may look 20 years younger, but your cells are not. You may look like a woman, you may "pass", but you are not. Period.
>>73854857
are you trying to argue that gender identity can be stolen? you'd have to be a level 65 gypsie to steal someones gender identity
>>73857081
>Keep banging that drum, maybe it will come true some day.
Implying that hasn't been the goal of Hollywood's gay agenda all along.
You think Hollywood is lusting after old grey cock?
>>73860077
I drive trucks so this is pretty common for me since truck stops are often full of dudes.
>>73857058
Suicide rates among the elderly are sky high, actually. And the only long term study of trans people post surgery suggests that the suicide rates are only temporarily stemmed. They start spiking again a few years later.
>>73857140
Honestly one solution would be just to start taking signs off bathroom doors, but then all the women would complain.
>>73860683
Nope, because businesses are legally required to have bathrooms for both genders. This problem would solve itself if there weren't already regulation fucking things up
>>73860683
So what? Segregated bathrooms are mostly useless. As long as urinals don't go away, fuck it.
>>73857263
Liberal darling Noam Chomsky said: What really matters are the countless small deeds of unknown people who lay the basis for the events of human history. These are the people who have made change in the past; they are responsible for making change in the future, too.
Incremental change is progressivism. The slippery slope is incremental change.
Do you think that the people who signed the 14th Amendment thought it would ever lead to gay marriage, or people arguing about which bathroom people should use?
>>73847402
>America
>Thinking they're less cucked than Europe
>>73857771
>The ongoing Lunar Laser Ranging Experiment measures the distance between Earth and the Moon using laser ranging. Lasers on Earth are aimed at retroreflectors planted on the Moon during the Apollo program (11, 14, and 15) and the Lunakhod 2 mission.
So you deny that pedophilia is rampant in Hollywood?
You deny that Hollywood has had an obvious gay agenda for years?
You deny that Hollywood gives Woody Allen a free pass?
You think Bryan Singer is molesting old men?
Oh and btw, homosexuals are more likely to be pedophiles. And homosexual pedophiles in public restrooms were the reason that Fred Phelps created God Hates Fags.
If I've been on the Internet too long, it's so I could be more informed than you are.
>>73847402
>Obama administration will tell schools
Cool, so they can tell him to fuck right off with his bullshit.
>>73857771
>Drink the Rite-Aid?
Are you posting from an alternate dimension? thats just a weird thing to say
>>73858111
No, they didn't have "transition" forced on them, their dick was cut off. Their gender didn't change. They're not newly a female, they're a man with his dick cut off who has to sit down to pee now. Like a eunuch.
And if people should have the freedom to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to a cosmetic surgeon to look like this beauty:
http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tv/image/1461/82/1461822480588.webm
then shouldn't they have the freedom to kill themsleves? Why do you want to stop them from killing themselves?
Why does anyone in the LGBT community want to stop anyone from killing themselves? It's their body isn't it?
>>73859808
>First, who gives Obama the right to arbitrarily deny federal funding to any school?
I believe it's based on denial of federal funds on the basis of not complying with federal non-discrimination policy.
>I just hate that this bullshit is such an issue we need a national law to allow transgenders to use their bathrooms
Well gay marriage is kinda settled so politicians need a new target to rally support against and use to distract from other political efforts.
Like how the "bathroom" bill of north carolina was bundled with provisions to prevent local governments from raising the minimum wage and prevent anyone christian, veteran, whatever from suing for discrimination in the state court.
>>73858745
Just to be clear, you think people with anorexia, and people with bulimia, and people with suicidal tendencies have something wrong with them and need to be treated, but people with gender dysphoria need to be encouraged in their mental delusions of being the wrong gender?
That trannies have the right to do to their body what they want, but that anorexics, and bulimics, and suicidal people don't?
>>73859306
youve hit the nail right on the head here...
>Transgenderism is a exual fetish
>>73850684
Someone give this man a medal desu
>>73848780
Bait. Only liberals would think that, and they are too retarded for this board.
>>73849894
Transgenderism is muh feels: the mental disorder.
>>73851791
>>73853180
What part of "I don't want my fucking tax money going to pay for some elective procedure just so they can satisfy their delusions and mental illness" don't you understand?
>>73847402
>>73847402
>>73847402
>>73847402
>OH NO
>TRANNYS WILL LEAVE OUR BATHROOMS AND BOTHER THE CUNTS INSTEAD
>SHORTER LINES FOR US
How do we stop this horrible future guise??
I simply couldn't live without pissing next to some faggot in a dress lisping about his pronouns.
>>73859904
>Neurological Dimorphism sure does exist, pal
Yeah obviously, it has been observed, but it has also been observed that some trans people have neurological structures more-inline with the sex they identify as in respect to dimorphism.
>In both instances, a medical professional is neglecting their oath to do no harm if they perform the surgery.
Whether you like it or not transition is the most effective treatment we have available for gender dysphoria and whatever emotional appeals you want to make to suggest that it's self-harm don't change the statistical reality.
>>73859033
>Just like gay marriage where NOTHING bad happened as soon as it was legalized.
Nothing bad happened? Christians got sued, Christians lost jobs, Christians got sent to prison. For their religious beliefs. Enshrined in the Constitution.
And it made all of Congress and the President totally superfluous. I had no idea that the judicial branch makes new laws! I had no idea that one unelected person on the Supreme Court could tell 300 million people what to do, or what a bunch of Congressmen really meant in the 1800s.
Why did women ever need an amendment to gain the right to vote if they could have just cited the 14th Amendment and "due process"? Because everyone with a brain knew it was about former African slaves. Jesus Christ.
And Caitlyn Jenner is going to pose nude on Sports Illustrated? The whole world has gone fucking insane. Give crazy people an inch and they will take a mile.
You can be sure that Muslims would not put up with this shit.
Let the Muslims come. They'll put the LGBT mafia in their place. Christians have giving them way too much leeway.
When Muslims start beheading people, then faggots will learn what intolerance really looks like. It doesn't look like being able to buy a cake wherever you want.
>>73847402
I don't care. Locker rooms and public showers are one thing but bathrooms are such a non-issue. There's fucking stalls, you don't actually have to see anybody's junk.
>>73861958
You're totally free to think tax money shouldn't go towards helping people with disorders and disabilities.
>>73862071
No, fuck the mudslimes
They reject the gay but seem more supportive of mentally ill trannies, plus of course they overwhelmingly support pedophilia, both of which are much worse than fags being fags.
>>73859199
Do you know the only qualification necessary to be considered transgender? Claiming to be.
You're suggesting that men being allowed into all women's bathrooms wouldn't lead to any incidents, whatsoever, in an age where every person on the planet carries a computer with a camera and videocamera in their pocket.
And there IS harm is enabling people's mental delusions.
A guy on a street corner thinks he's Jesus. Well we all better agree with him!
And Trump is a fucking retard (unless he's secretly a Democrat and his plan all along was to destroy the Republican Party and ensure 16 years of a Democratic president).
>>73847402
How can anyone in a K-12 school be transgender without it counting as child abuse?
How this is an issue is beyond me...
>>73859227
Even children know which bathroom door they're supposed to go in.
>>73859306
There are people who literally believe they can use cosmetic surgery to transform into a cat.
Besides, there are people who believe animals deserve the same rights as humans.
And if someone really believes in freedom, LGBT peoples should be free to kill themselves.
>>73862451
It's worse than that, lad, some extremists now try to say that animals have more rights, and now even fucking plants have rights. These degenerate vegans need to off themselves and set an example if they think humans are a "problem."
>>73859904
>Is a mentally ill/suicidal person qualified to make irreversible decisions such as mutilating their body? If yes ---> We should allow box cutters in psych wards. If no ---> do not let them have the surgery. In both instances, a medical professional is neglecting their oath to do no harm if they perform the surgery.
This. All of this.
But it's not like plastic surgeons have any morals anyway.
>>73862652
Animals have a right to taste good in our apex predator mouths
Are Americans really this bothered by which filthy piss dungeon someone chooses to use for a few minutes a day?
>>73860453
Did you have any actual arguments or are you just taking a break from masturbating to tranny porn?
>>73854555
The underrated truth.
>>73860453
This is what happens when you combine autism with politics, and they have the stones to talk about mental illnesses
>>73862866
Yes. My argument is that you're a loser. You've been posting in this thread for 4 fucking hours and every 5th post is you. Get a fucking life.
>>73863033
It doesn't take "stones" to talk about mental illness on an anonymous image board, dumbass. Same reason I can call you a fucking dumbass dumbshit faggot and it doesn't require any courage. You don't know who I am, nobody here does.
target stores allow all genders in any bathroom now. It is on their website. My nephews friend was in the men's room and a woman came in the bathroom. He told her this is the men's room. She said I am transgender and feel better in the men's room. Boycotting target now.
>>73863160
It's very clear you're one upset autist
>>73863100
You're reading 4chan and you're telling me to get a fucking life?
What's wrong worth forcing tannins to change their gender in their birth certificate?
It's completely r reasonable. Either you have a penis ire you don't.
>>73863193
Have been boycotting them for longer than that.
>>73847402
>>73863686
>Either you have a penis ire you don't.
Dicks and pussies have fuck all to do with the human endocrine system. Chromosomes don't care. You remove ovaries and give a woman testosterone, she'll grow a beard. The body is neutral. It just responds to signals. Farmers have been exploiting this concept for 10k years, to make plump pigs who don't stink of man-musk. All the pork you buy from the supermarket came from gender benders.
>>73864722
>let's be like castrated animals, fat and bound for slaughter
>>73849081
>Why has the entire world gone fucking insane?
I know it seems that way, anon. I know. Just remember that you aren't truly alone while /pol/ exists. It seems like there's no sanity left in the world because those with any sanity left have been driven into exile.
>>73864987
>implying guys don't like it plump and bound for slaughter
yay a meetup place for sex!
whats with all the tranny loving faggots in this thread? fucking disgusting
Why make unisex bathrooms, with more stalls.
We all know men and women are not equal, since they can't use the urinals.
>>73853610
desu senpai homosexuals are almost 'privileged' status now among the SJWs. So yes the slippery slope does exist.
>Creep wakes up
>Gets dressed in his usual male attire
>Goes to school
>Decides to go to bathroom
>Figures he may as well walk into the woman's
>Someone complains to him that he's a male
>He responds and says he identifies as a female
>They can no longer do anything
>Creep just sits in the bathroom creeping on girls
Gee no way this could go wrong
>>73849367
WHY IS THERE SPAGHETTI
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT BONE
WHAT THE FUCK DID I WATCH
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Seriously, gas them all. Obama needs to see this video. I'm sure he'd be singing a different tune if he did.
>>73850246
>jews
>human
>>73865731
>pic related
>>73852976
doing the lords work, anon
