I've just learned that Obama is going to Hiroshima but has announced he won't be apologising. OK, Whatever, I think its a shitty thing to do and shows a weakness and lack of humility since it was a war crime in everyones eyes but if that is what he wants to do then fine. The question is, WHEN will America apologise? A decade from now? On the 100th anniversary? When everyone who was there is dead? It needs to be done eventually.
>>73828473
we didn't want to kill our men
war is war
even then, that crazy shit radiation indirectly brought us anime
>>73828473
We are still handing out purple hearts prepared for the invasion of mainland Japan.
Let that sink in, you limey redcoat fuck.
the real question is: does Japan even give a shit?
and not some small little group of gooks wanting a "sorry", I mean the entire nation and all it's peoples
do the vast majority of them absolutely demand an apology?
if not, why bother? a "sorry" does nothing for no one
He tried to at the start of his presidency and the Japanese told him to shut the fuck up.
>>73828473
/thread
They don't care because the citizens didn't like the Imperialistic government, and they are honorable enough to accept defeat.
>>73828473
Have they apologized for Pearl Harbor?
>>73828473
That bow is full on cuck
also
As has been proven many times on this board, if we really wanted to fuck Japan, we would have dropped nigs, not nukes.
Here we go again.
Another "japan did nothing wrong and didn't deserve the bombs" meme.
>>73828473
>implying the japs have apologized for their much worse war crimes
>>73828473
America apologizes for nothing.
>>73829953
One of their many faults. Humility and remorse for terrible things show strength and conviction, steadfast defense of war crimes out of pride is a weak stance.
nukes are a hoax
>>73829858
who tf says that? Japan acknowledges that they were on the wrong for WW2.
>>73830449
>i don't know what a war crime is
That's some shit tier bait right there.
never?
just like i dont think the japs need to apologize for nanking and comfort women.
albeit, the nukes had more justification than comfort women and such.
>>73828473
Why would Obama apologize for something he didn't do?
>>73828473
We did them a favor.
Could you imagine a world without Godzilla?
>>73828473
Where's the shop of him bowing all the way to his feet?
>apologizing for things youre not at fault
Do people do this?
>>73828473
same day you apologize for the Falklands
>>73828473
Never
Why should they?
Americans shouldn't apologize to us. They should apologize to their ancestors for letting their nation be overrun by cucks and spics.
>>73828473
when will they apologize for iwo jima, the rape of nanking, and pearl harbor? :^)
That's funny how the japanese today praise America and think that the US is like their elder brother while they mostly know about the american bombings
Japs are so illogical
>>73828473
YOU REMEMBER HIRO JIMA
REMEMBER WHEN THE PEARL HARBOR BOMBED THE GERMANS?
OOO IT'S D-DAY ALL OVER AGAIN, BABY!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3_cUxzLBSQ
>>73832546
Hiro Nagasushi gets it
>>73832715
America did help rebuild their country after bombing it into the ground.
>>73828473
>When will America apologize for Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Why should we apologize for winning, Muhammed?
>>73828473
Hopefully never.
>>73832546
This, desu.
>>73832546
Why can't everyone on this board be as based as the nipposters?
>>73832817
>America did help rebuild their country
How exactly, can you explain?
>>73832715
you 80IQ ruskie dont get japs
theycoming from the back like pearl harbor
>>73830449
Dude your country is less then a shadow of it's former self because you let libs and weaklings walk all over you. Being soft gets you nowhere.
>>73832818
Because that's the progressive thing to do. Winning is a cisnormative heteropatriarchal construct of whiteness and you should feel bad about it.
>>73832913
we gave them lots of money and used our soldiers to help reconstruct their infrastructure and buildings.
>>73832913
are you joking Ivan? We occupied and rebuilt them until the 1960's. We're still there ready to defend them since we cucked their army size
2 bombs weren't enough.
>>73832913
Lots of money and materials, same with Germoney. Passed a bunch of economic reforms too.
>>73828473
They don't even want us to apologize
Why the fuck would we do it when even they don't want us to?
Also Nippon is our oldest and greatest ally, no way in hell there is any bad blood between us
>Why did you bomb us, USA?
>Why do cruel and unforgiving?
>Why USA?
>The screams..the screams
>I still hear them
>Why?
>>73832237
was godzilla a metaphor for the nukes?
It was necessary, the Japanese had a religion that made them think they where superior to all and the world belonged to them. Without the extremely demoralizing effect of the nuclear attack which killed their faith they would have never stopped.
In the end Japan improved greatly as a result of the nukes and they where able to join the winning team (the west).
Now if only we could do something like that to Islam....
>>73830904
Bull fucking shit they do.
ADMIT NANKING HAPPENED YOU SLANT EYED FUCKS
THEN -MAYBE- WE'LL APOLOGIZE FOR NUKING YOU AND KILLING 80 THOUSAND INSTEAD OF INVADING
>>73833036
>cisnormative heteropatriarchal
>mfw I've heard that exact combination of words used in conversations with anthropology students.
You laugh, but they actually do talk like this.
>>73832913
We rebuild every country we bulldoze through.
From 1945-1952 Japan was an occupied territory of the U.S under reconstruction.
>>73833162
But Germany doesn't treat America like the japanese do
>>73829858
Fucking this, before the nukes the japs were animals
>>73829170
It was for the best any way you look at it
>>73830449
That wasn't a war crime.
>>73832715
Still butthurt over 1905, Ivan?
>>73833296
Lad Germony's head might not be as far up America's ass as Japan's, but it's still up there.
>>73832913
You high, boy?
We QUITE FUCKING LITERALLY went over there and rebuilt Japan brick by goddamn brick.
>>73830653
Good lord put that tinfoil on tighter.
Or you could take some physics courses for free.
>>73833307
Mexico needs a couple of them too. If only we could pinpoint where all them cartels are and zero on in
>>73828473
>war crime
japan dindu nuffin
>Apologising for something that happened in the same war as Nanking and all the shit Japan did too
No. Leave it as it was, and move on with both countries the better for it.
>>73833488
Throw them at rio de janeiro and the whole northeast Brazil pls
>>73829627
>literally eating up propaganda
There wasn't going to be a land invasion
>Gave them a post war economic miracle aka "the bubble"
>Gave them our animation expertise via Disney allowing them to go on and create anime which fuels their economy and tourism
>Were damn lucky we even allowed them to have a military at all, JSDF is even being allowed to expand due to worries over upcoming war
>Put the whole blowing up our harbor thing under the water and said "let's be allies"
>Paid and compensated all the Japanese held in our internment camps
As far as I'm concerned we paid our dues and kept casualties to a minimum.
So sad that our grandparents laid down their lives so that people like OP can be such useless faggots. What an absolutely useless, grating, whining, loser generation Obama had spawned.
>>73833282
That's what makes it funnier, it's literally just buzzword soup And also depressing
It's too bad identity politics academics just about aggressively drove out every right leaning academic in Social Sciences which led us to the crap anti-intellectual departments we have today
>>73833296
Does the GDR ring a bell
If we had flattened the Red Army like Patton wanted and taken the whole fucking country they might be a bit more friendly and dicksuckish.
>>73833462
What happened in 1905? Bourgois revolution? How is this connected?
>>73833675
>Obama has spawned
>>73832546
Japanon.
yes.
>>73828473
>apologizing for something you didn't do
Sounds pretty British to me.
>>73833198
Godzilla was yeah, it was created due to radiation and inspired by the bombs and this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daigo_Fukury%C5%AB_Maru
>Daigo Fukuryū Maru (第五福龍丸?, S.S. Lucky Dragon 5) was a Japanese tuna fishing boat, with a crew of 23 men, which was exposed to, and contaminated by, nuclear fallout from the United States's Castle Bravo thermonuclear device test on Bikini Atoll, on March 1, 1954.
The crew suffered acute radiation syndrome (ARS) for a number of weeks after the Bravo test in March, and Aikichi Kuboyama, the boat's chief radioman, died less than seven months later on September 23, 1954, of secondary infection.
>>73832546
Mishima was gay and a madman
>>73828473
Killing civilians en masse is the only way to break the will of a highly dominant aggressor.
>>73833608
So everyone knew about Manhattan then?
Why did we waste so much time building P-51H's and our own V1 copies? Why did we mint enough Purple Hearts to last until 2083? Why were we massing an absolutely buttfucking mind-boggling amount of men and materiel right at mainland japan?
Propaganda it was not. They simply told nobody about the bombs until they were ready to deploy and scrapped the invasion plans out of hand. Please learn what actually happened.
>>73833800
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tsushima
>>73829330
> let that sink in
Leddits down the corridor and to the left m8, get your TIL on.
after the japs apologize for committing the biggest genocide in history against the chinese in wwii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYQK98d0wQM
>>73828473
What would apologizing do? Turn back time so the bombs wouldn't be dropped?
>>73828473
Winners don't have to apologize to the losers you English cuck.
>>73828473
Why the fuck would you apologize for catalyzing the surrender of Japan?
We saved American lives by bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki
In war there should be no limits to the cost of saving the lives of your own citizens
>>73833800
>what you mean entire navy sunk and captured in greatest shame of century you speak of crazy amerikansk
>>73832546
Get fucked zipperhead
>>73832546
This. This is now why Japan is now bro tier. At least they can see how we went from Alpha to beta cuck joke nation.
>>73834120
We kicked their asses later
>>73828473
Just fucking send Trudeau, he already apologized for some rapefugee ship that got told to fuck off, back in 1914 ffs. This cunt will bend over for anything.
http://bc.ctvnews.ca/justin-trudeau-to-offer-full-apology-for-komagata-maru-incident-1.2854314
>>73828473
You already started one thread about this, but ok..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH8AsTCigp8
>>73834327
Yet when on an even footing with them you lost like you don't even know what your ass is, let alone how to find it.
When Japan thanks us for not allowing them to fall to the USSR.
A direct result of the nukes. Russian was racing us to invade Japan.
The first cuck president
>>73834423
Amerifat, please. We ripped Kuril islands from them, does that looks like the loss?
>>73834327
>beating a man while hes on the ground
a very russian thing to do, desu senpai
>>73834327
Lol ok
>>73834562
"After Japan accepted the Potsdam Declaration on 14 August 1945, and announced the termination of the war on 15 August 1945, the Soviet Union started the Invasion of the Kuril Islands, which took place between 18 August and 3 September, expelling the Japanese inhabitants two years later"
>>73829723
Not Japan as a whole, but there are a few japanese who orchestrated Pearl harbor that showed remorse. I always found the story of Mitsuo Fuchida interesting.
>>73834686
>Casualties and losses:
>Japan - 21,389 (Japanese data)-83,737 killed
>USSR - 12,031 killed, 24,425 wounded
>>73828473
Right, because they totally just tripped, fell, and accidentally attacked Pearl Harbor. They roped us into a war and then got BTFO'd.
When Japan apologizes for the Rape of Nanking.
>>73834758
god the russians are a bunch of assholes.
thank god we dropped the nukes and won the cold war
>>73834082
>Just when the Japanese were ready to capitulate, we went ahead and introduced to the world the most devastating weapon it had ever seen and, in effect, gave the go-ahead to Russia to swarm over Eastern Asia. Washington decided that Japan had been given its chance and now it was time to use the A-bomb. I submit that it was the wrong decision. It was wrong on strategic grounds.
>“The conventional wisdom that the atomic bomb saved a million lives is so widespread that (quite apart from the inaccuracy of this figure, as noted by Samuel Walker) most Americans haven’t paused to ponder something rather striking to anyone seriously concerned with the issue: Not only did most top U.S. military leaders think the bombings were unnecessary and unjustified, many were morally offended by what they regarded as the unnecessary destruction of Japanese cities and what were essentially noncombat populations. Moreover, they spoke about it quite openly and publicly.
>It is my opinion that the use of the barbarous weapon at Hiroshima and Nagasaki was of no material assistance in our war against Japan … The Japanese were already defeated and ready to surrender because of the effective sea blockade and the successful bombing with conventional weapons
Want me to keep going?
>>73828473
When Japan resurrects the soldiers they killed at Pearl Harbor.
>>73828473
America should never apologize. What (some of) Japan wants is nuclear disarmament. Japan is stupid in this regard. These people should be educated about the realities of war. Just because they were an occupied nation during a time of peace doesn't mean that armies are useless and everyone should renounce war. Fortunately, Abe and the other conservatives have realized the threat of China and are ignoring the Constitution to expand the military, much to the dismay of lelberals and American academics who despise Japanese nationalism.
>>73832546
>MFW I needed to bait /pol/ with 3 Hiroshima threads just to get a single Nippon response.
>>73828473
It's funny because a word from that monkey means nothing. They would probably feel insulted if Trump doesn't do it.
>>73833608
>I don't know what the Manchurian campaign is. Are you telling me that Russia was at war with Japan too??? I am a literal child who knows nothing about world history, but that won't stop me from arguing with people who do.
>>73835215
They were ready for peace terms but not unconditional surrender
>>73828473
I'm surprised he wasn't going to since he is such a huge fucking cuck like in that image, the fucking president of the United States bowing to someone? I can't wait till that fucking chimp is out of the white house.
>>73828473
>napalming tokyo is okay
>bombing dresden is okay
>dropping two bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima are war crimes
??!?!?!?!?!?!
>>73828473
Two bombs wasn't enough.
t. Most Powerful Race in the World
>>73835974
based filipinobro
"It's always better to sacrifice your opponents pieces"
-Tartakower
>>73828473
Apologize for something he didn't do?
Europeans are dumb. Apologizing to sand niggers all day had rotted your brain.
By your logic you should be apologizing to eighty percent of the world for British colonization.
>>73828473
Right around when you apologize for the Boston massacre.
>>73828473
unfortunately we have, ever year now for about 30 years.
mean while we should be apologizing for not dropping more than 2 bombs on these japacucks.
2 ATOMIC BOMBS WAS NOT ENOUGH FOR JAPAN
THEY NEED 2000000 MORE DROPPED ON THEM.
EXTERMINATE JAPAN.
>>73828473
it was karmically compensatory whether it was necessary or not. the japanese democide was real unlike the 6million holohoax, which was actually only around 500k-1m people in interment camps who mostly died of starvation and syphilis due to the allies destroying nazi infrastructure.
https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP3.HTM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
when is the caliphate of britannia going to apologize for dresden?
>>73828473
FUCK OFF THEY WANTED WAR AND WE ENDED IT NIGGER.STOP BEING A PUSSY THAY KNOW THEIR PLACE NOW.
>>73828473
When will japan apologize for the death marches the torture and killing of POW s the use of captured civilian women as sex slaves for their soldiers, when? When? WHEN?
>>73828473
Maybe after they apologize for Nanking
But seriously, the nukes were dropped to test them, and to save American lives in what would have otherwise been an all out bloody invasion. Plus, Nagasaki could've been saved had the Japanese just surrenders after Hiroshima.
>>73830904
A case can be made that the U.S. trade embargo was an act of war.
Also, Claire Chennault was planning on firebombing Japanese cities in the late 1930's, and was using U.S. military codes during the planning phase.
>>73836254
Exterminate Japan and let China have free reign over the entirety of the asian waters? Yeah, sure, but only if you want Chinese overlords.
>tfw reading about rape of nanking
Don't ever think those sneaky fucks have forgotten.
>>73833196
Why did you bomb our harbor nipman?
I apologize for nothing
>>73836539
>rape of nanking
Just read up on it as well, how the hell could any human being commit those atrocities? Rape is one thing, but mutilation? Jesus fucking christ.
>>73837032
>I know not where to end. Never I have heard or read such brutality. Rape! Rape! Rape! We estimate at least 1,000 cases a night and many by day. In case of resistance or anything that seems like disapproval, there is a bayonet stab or a bullet ... People are hysterical ... Women are being carried off every morning, afternoon and evening. The whole Japanese army seems to be free to go and come as it pleases, and to do whatever it pleases.
I heard something similar in a german cucks vlog after last new years rapeathon.
>>73828473
We have nothing to apologize for. We had a choice
A) Kill 100K people in a display of military force that would leave Japan with no option but unconventional surrender
B) Launch a full-scale invasion that even the most optimistic projections suggested would cost the lives of a million US servicemen and 5-10 million Japanese soldiers and civilians
We made the right choice.
>>73828473
>Germans should not apologize for the crimes of Nazis
>British should not be blamed for colonization done by their ancestors
>Americanns should definately apologise for the implementation of a super secret weapon project run in total secrecy from most of populance that ended a war in one fell swoop
>All white people should not be held responsible for slavery practiced in the past
>>73837384
or C) Accept their already made offer of surrender.
>>73837032
The "rape" of Nanking is the Chinaman's holocaust. The commie chinks have used it as an excuse for their own barbarity.
>>73829392
Kinda similar to niggers wanting a sorry for slavery
>>73832546
Based gook
>>73828473
There's literally no such thing as a "war crime".
Nothing is sacred in war except victory. Not even trying to be edgy here. It's terrible and horrible and if you're not the most horrible one you're going to lose the war.
>>73837032
>>73837330
People have an enormous capacity for evil, it's what happens to people brought up in a militaristic society, worshipping the state, and seeing non-Japanese as sub-humans. Western society makes us "good" today, but it could be so different, values are transient and we are innately savage.
Read lord of the flies.
>>73835412
There is no appeasing the alt-right.
They will completely disregard any accomplishments by black men regardless.
They are no better than the radical left in the regard that they will immediately excuse anything that disagrees with their world view.
What a disappointing ideology, and what a disappointing anime image board.
>>73828473
Fuck you Britastan suck a dick we never need to apologize. What we did saved lives, that's how we figured we'd do it, and that's the truth.
If we EVER apologized it would be admitting that we dropped the bomb just BECAUSE WE COULD and NOT BECAUSE IT SAVED LIVES.
>>73828473
They deserved it, and I'm serious, faggot OP
>>73834179
>genocide
There's a reason we call chinese jew of asia
>>73837812
Not true. the Nazis and the Imperial Japanese were by far the most horrible of the WWII actors and look what happened to them. Never had a chance. Following the accepted rules of war leads to victory, virtually every time. Look it up.
>>73837812
>There's literally no such thing as a "war crime".
>"Examples of war crimes include intentionally killing civilians or prisoners, torture, destroying civilian property, taking hostages, perfidy, rape, using child soldiers, pillaging, declaring that no quarter will be given, and using weapons that cause superfluous injury or unnecessary suffering."
If you think those examples are "literally no such thing" you are probably a paid state shill.
>>73832546
goddammit I love Japan posters. Ever day they bring the good shit.
>>73837450
>Germans should not apologize for the crimes of Nazis
for how long though?
>British should not be blamed for colonization done by their ancestors
fuck off with collective guilt bullshit.
>Americans should definitely apologize for the implementation of a super secret weapon project run in total secrecy from most of populace that ended a war in one fell swoop
no.
>All white people should not be held responsible for slavery practiced in the past
nope, most relations to families who owned plantations have paid reparations in one form or another to descendants of slaves over the last century, and considering all the fucking wealthfare, laxing of education standards, and affirmative action that has been going on for the last two generations I'd say we are well squared up with that shit at least in the US, niggers are just stupid and brainwashed by the regressive left which has made them black supremacists the only difference from white supremacy is that their bullshit's foundation is a contrived eternal victim complex, just like zionist jews.
>>73834597
You got worthless islands that still aren't recognized by any international body, good for you
>russia stronk
>>73838123
I'd say it goes (from worst to best)
Japs<Chinks<Russians=Western Axis Powers<Western Allies
>>73828473
>apologizing for being right
it taught the nips a lesson they won't forget.
>>73833356
GOOD TASTE, MY FRIEND
Where were you when Lum first invaded your heart?
>>73828473
My grandfather fought the Japs at Guadalcanal, Tinian and Saipan.2nd Marine Division. I have a scrapbook he left me with a ton of photos of the war, including pictures taken off of dead Japs.
This was a war of attrition. Unit 731 was already preparing biological warfare against the west coast. Not to mention Pearl Harbor and all the atrocities the Imperial Japs did, I say fuck them. Why the hell should we apologize for ending a war they fucking started. Don't start with that bullshit oil meme, they had their sights on expansion and wasn't going to let anything they considered a threat to stop them.
tldr you're a faggot
>>73838252
Kuril islands in the hands of an unfriendly power (U.S.A.) would have put the People's Navy at even more of a disadvantage. Also act as a forward screen/OP.
>>73833223
Honestly without the middle east being a mess the world would be just dandy except for shithole parts of africa
>>73836512
>Japan invades US and UK holdings in the Pacific
>Literally an act of war
>US implements trade restrictions in retaliation
Kill yourself bucktooth chink.
>>73837852
I disagree, contingency/circumstance is what makes men savage, power hungry psychopaths are the one's who create systems/religions/states that create conditions that turn men 'savage' people are generally quite empathetic the more healthy a society is.
Face it Japs were the evil honorary Aryans(Finns were the good ones)
They needed to be tamed
>>73838275
Depends on which Chinks you mean: Imperialist-People's Republic-Nationalist Republic-War Lords-etc.
Russians fought most of the war on their own territory. by 1945 the war was a gimme for the West. Russian non-compliance not a factor.
>>73838578
Jewish trade embargo was cassus belli. Your jew president even knew about the attack but let goyim die so he could expand jew influence to asia.
>>73838231
Sorry Ameri-bro, I fucked up. Used
>implying
completely wrong.
I meant to point out sarcastically that this whole "Americans need to apologize" can be thrown into the trash with the other "People need to apoligize for the sins of others/ancestors/kin" type of shit.
You should never apoligize for the nukes, they were the only thing to ever show this world how damn dangerous the things were and they did end a war in the blink of an eye.
Damn, I fucked up.
>>73828473
Obama apologizing for Hiroshima and Nagasaki is like Hitler's great great grandkids apologizing for the Holocaust.
>>73828473
>When will America apologize
Never. Japan deserved it with Pearl Harbor and Nanking.
>>73828473
Germans and Japs crying about war crimes makes me laugh every time. If you invade a bunch of other countries you deserve to get fucked. America deserves the shit they get from Mudslimes as well.
>>73838578
Trade embargo was in the 1930's friend. read a book.
Chennault's planning to firebomb Japan involved multiple U.S. institutions and U.S. government facilities. His communications on this matter from China to the U.S mainland took place over government cables, which the Imperial Japanese Navy tapped, and U.S. navy codes, which the IJN had broken.
Why didn't Japan surrender after the first bomb?
>>73837900
Why would you save that?
>>73829723
America placed oil embargoes and other embargoes on Japan despite claiming to be neutral.
America was also already helping Britain spy and attack German naval activity as well.
America was pretty hypocritical before their public entrance into WW2
>>73839935
They were still calling our bluff.
