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HOW CAN YOU TRUMPFAGS STILL SUPPORT HIM? IS THE WALL A SUGGESTION TOO?
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>Trump: Muslim ban was 'just a suggestion'
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-muslim-ban-was-just-a-suggestion-223102
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Disgusting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB8PxOG1xCM
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>>73823066
He has the nomination. Now he needs the center and the liberals, the right wing extremists are irrelevant at this point.

If you don't know how politics work, you should not be interested in it.
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>>73823442
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
How could you do this to me Trump?
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>We have a serious problem. It’s a temporary ban. It hasn’t been called for yet. Nobody’s done it. This is just a suggestion until we find out what’s going on
its literally fucking nothing, he's said this "until we find out what's going on" thing before
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>>73823066
>Trump: Muslim ban was 'just a suggestion
how is this a bad thing?
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>>73823066
It's called lugenpress.
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>>73823797
this

>>73824224
lügenpresse
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IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION, BRO!
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>>73823066
It was always a suggestion.

Did you not hear him the first time he said it?

No you heard the liberal buzz line that trumps plans to ban all muzzies why he never even said.

Liberals can't claim he's Hitler with false statements and then claim he is waddling back a position you decided he stated.
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Aren't all policies from candidates right now literally just suggestions?
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How long until "BUILD WALL" was just a "suggestion"?
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>>73823066
>A future president showing his willingness to change his mind and update his thinking based on the situation.
Gee, how horrible.
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This sickens me. That is why I am now a #CruzMissle.
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still better than shillary
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>>73825151
Maybe he'll wait until after he's president for that one.
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>>73824688
Did he not literally run an ad where he said he plans to do it?
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>>73823066
>trump is said to say something
>read actual thing
>its a misrepresentation of what he said
Gg, correcttherecord.
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>Trump: everything I said was a lie, any reason you had to support me is no longer true
>/pol/: so?
I predicted this would happen.
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I expected as much. I'm not voting for him in the CA primary, but I will in the general. Not enthusiastically, but pragmatically, typical lesser of two evils option to have, at the least, a moderate Republican rather than a commie kike or retarded woman.

At some point we're going to have Trump fans who begin to sound like Obamabots. I sincerely hope he does a good job, but the system is sick to the core.

Nothing short of armed rebellion will change the course of this country. You can go into politics with the best of intentions, but that system WILL change you.
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>>73829630
He can't lie about not being a career politician
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>>73823066

Just bringing up this topic and defending it for months has permanently shifted what is acceptable for discussion in American politics. I don't give a fuck
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>>73823066
This is the moment you realize he actually suggested a temporary ban on Muslim immigration, but then the media went full "LITERALLY WANTS TO PUT THE MUSLIMS IN THE GAS CHAMBERS" mode.
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>>73829808
He sure does act like one. Didn't take long.
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>>73830067
What Ecuador said. The only people falling for this are the people who fell for this to begin with: i.e. Liberals.
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>>73823066
Yes the wall is also just a suggestion. Top kek and most of these fucking convervatards dont realize it.

>2016
>still taking politicians promises at heart

Its like you guys were born yesterday. I'm an illegal and I am here to stay. Deal With it.
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>>73829601
This, as usual. Media takes a part of a politicians quote to misinterpret the meaning.
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dont care. anyone but the devil
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>>73830252

So basically you just proved me right?

>>73830227
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>>73830067
He ran a fucking ad about it. Did we "figure out what's going on"? Why is he no longer firm about it?
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>>73823779
Cool rare flag, friend
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>>73823066
The Muslim ban was the only thing that had me on the wall. Now that he retracts from it a bit I'm all for him now.
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>>73830396
It still was a purposed suggestion m8 as it is now.

by all logic he could receive new Intel or figure out even better vetting methods until then m8

call when the wall is gone
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>>73823066
Now, I am a #HillaryArtillery!
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>>73830357
Well I never fell for the wall meme. But yes you are right I guess, the wall is just a suggestion an people falling for it are retarded liberals.

Who else
>#undocumented&Unafraid
here?
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>Implying the wall is not the only important platform.
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>>73823066

>beatings will continue until moral improves.

Don't make him do it.
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Jesus fucking Christ and I voted for this clown. And now he supports Muslims and trannies.
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>>73823066

Trump supporters are such fucking gullible women.
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>>73831108
He is playing the game. Quit listening to the shills. Relax.
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>>73827107
lol too fucking late

Trump is for chumps.
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Its like none of you read The Art of the Deal. Sad!
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>>73830910
>implying the wall is not just a suggestion too
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>>73831108
Now you're starting to understand what it feels like to be a banker who gave Trump a loan.
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>>73823442
lmao, if you dont see how trump literally only cares abotu winning and not about making america great again then you are beyond help.

He stands for nothing, anything he says can be taken back, you have no idea who you are putting into office if he gets there.

Why the fuck are you supporting his ego?
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>>73830793
His as specifically said "calling for" a ban, that doesn't sound like a suggestion to me, that's a goal.

You fucks are doing mental gymnastics because you've invested yourself in a fraud.

>wall
I'm almost certain this will never happen. Only question is if he comes clean before or after November.
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>>73831333
>implying if you had a source of even a hint to misrepresent him saying this you would not of spammed it
kek
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>>73824388
>>73823797

>hands you a tissue box

>>73824688
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>10th shill thread on this
>It's actually never been official policy from the very start of the campaign

Fuck off.
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next:

>the wall was just a sugestion
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He will end up banning Sunnis

Shias are fine. The Sunnis you need to watch for
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>>73831485
Its a proposal m8 always has been always will be your going to have to try harder m8

see>>73831492

call me that happens m8 I am just glad you have accepted he is winning
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>>73831492
Oh just you wait. Couple months from now you will hear these words out of his own mouth.
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>>73823066
LELELEL
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>>73823066

How can you be a faggot?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7Fqn5KJsyI
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>>73829630

This. It'd be kinda funny to witness if it weren't so pathetic. /pol/ is willing to bend into all sorts of silly positions just to be able to still get anally fucked by this greedy con man.

I just can't wait until he goes back on the wall. That's when you'll see a real crisis on /pol/. If the wall thing is "just a suggestion", what does /pol/ have left to fall back on?

>Who cares if my candidate of choice is going back on everything he said? I know he's STILL MY GUY and he's just saying what needs to be said to win! I know in my heart he still will do what I want him to!

Like clockwork. Just like an abused wife in an afterschool special.
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>>73831554
THIS
it is not his official policy its always one of many off hand suggestions.

its never even been posted on his policies on is web page
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>>73830522
There's nothing rare about the shitstain that is Bangladesh. Also the muslim ban has always been a suggestion. It was never detailed on his campaign website.
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>>73831554
He ran a fucking ad for it you shit eating kraut.
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>>73831627
KEK
>I predict something trump in the future
is that you Nate?
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>>73823066
No one really thought he would ban muslims or build a wall.

It was a meme since the beggining
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>>73831675
see>>73831492


try harder m8

its the single most important issue he does not need to worry about anything but immigration period
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>>73831675
"At least he's not Hillary :^)"
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>>73831218

Yeah, he is. Only problem is you didn't realize you were part of that game.
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>>73831719
>ran an ad
>off hand suggestion
Suck my dick
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>>73823066
>wildly spin his original suggestion into the idea that he will ban/deport/kill all muslims and nuke the middle east because he's literally hitler
>he clarifies it was just a suggestion like he said originally
>OMFG DRUMPF FLIP FLOP!!! TIP TOP KEK /POL/

the media distortion is incredible. NO, this doesn't say anything against him, you just look like an idiot
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>>73831675
>Donald trump is a greedy con man but not arrogant enough to rush at a chance to build a fucking giant wall with his name on it in this hypothetical situation where he is elected
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>>73831580
>Shias are fine

No they're not. They're only not as radical because they're not as many as the Sunni. A nice, clean, thick turd with a clean butthole in one wipe is better than messy diarrhea, but it's still shit.
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>>73831415
Considering that the most likely alternative flies on a broomstick, I can understand that people flock to Trump
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>>73831675
>Donald trump is a greedy con man but not arrogant enough to rush at a chance to build a fucking giant wall with his name on it in this hypothetical situation where he is elected

the man that builds giant towers with his name on it already
kek
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>>73831919
sorry m8 those things are no mutually exclusive

can you show me where it was ever under his policies on his website?
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>hurr hurr he obviously wont build the wall

building the wall would cost pocket change relative to the governments overall budget, it's not some massive feat
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>>73831590
Yeah it was clearly just a proposal. Only problem is he's just now making this clear.
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>>73832129
Whats the problem m8 does Hillary Clinton even have a position on this subject?
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#notallsuggestions
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>>73832226
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>>73823797
Yeah, that was his position from the outset. This is more liberal twisting of his words, in this case to discourage his supporters to make him look like he's backtracking.
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>>73831554
backpedaling hard
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>>73831554

Kinda like how Donald always claimed he would fundraise in the general election(protip: he didn't, there isn't a single source available where he claims this. If I'm wrong, post a source. And no, not his advisor trying to backpedal. I mean Trump himself saying he plans to take funding in the general election. He never said it despite what you clowns parrot and believe.)

This "It's never been an official policy" shit is Trump esque technicality bullshit. It's a position he's openly stated for a long time and now he's softening his position on it to a mere "suggestion" instead of something he's committed to. If this specifically can be written off as a soft suggestion, so can any of his other positions he has stated.

If you're going solely by his website, Donald promises almost nothing according to his website. Just unimportant shit even you guys don't give a flying fuck about. Most of you probably can't even name the shit on there.

tl;dr: You're full of fucking shit. Donald is shifting to the left, and you guys were conned. The man is in it for himself and he doesn't care what he says to get there. You're just so desperate that you can't accept that you were one of the people he conned.
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>>73832101
especially if we take the money from mexican trade tariffs
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Wow, what the fuck, Don?
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>>73832295
Show me where it was under his website?

i am having a hard time finding it under that little thing called policies
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>>73823066
Had there, at any time in the past wrek, not been this EXACT SAME thread on here?

It's as omnipresent as /sg/ and /trumpgen/.

Confine all shills to still general.
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>>73832187
>make it about Hillary
We already know she's a cunt. However this thread does not concern her, stop deflecting and address the fact that Trump is a fraud.
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>>73823066
kek
you don't even need to make any arguments about why he's actually going to do it
all you need is compare him to shillary and the argument is done
no matter what, he'll never be worse than the shill who wants to fuck wall street, take guns, and make feminism the state religion
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>>73832061
>been talking about it for months
>bu..but..its not on his website

the denial is real
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>>73832333
see>>73832425

sorry m8 the wall is under there even immigration policies why is this looking so bad for you?
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>>73823066
Nice flag, looks like kermit's asshole
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>>73831856

>m8

Filtered.
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>>73832333
He did say he'd consider taking donations for the general but he hasn't decided yet. Pretty sure it was one of his appearances on Michael Savage's show.

No, I'm not going to be arsed to look it up.
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The Muslim ban wouldn't have worked anyways. Immigrants can and will lie about their religion to seek refuge. Banishment on a basis of faith is hardly enforceable.
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>>73832447
Yea m8 it was never a official policy sorry end of story
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>>73832392
I'm having a hard time finding any real policies on his website
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>>73832543
Either way your blown out
kek
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>>73823066
wow you know what, i really dont want to support trump anymore

thanks for this thread OP
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>>73832611
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
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Well, Trump is Stumped, now I'm a billary for hillary
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>>73832611
COMPELLING MEXICO TO PAY FOR THE WALL

Introduction: The provision of the Patriot Act, Section 326 - the "know your customer" provision, compelling financial institutions to demand identity documents before opening accounts or conducting financial transactions is a fundamental element of the outline below. That section authorized the executive branch to issue detailed regulations on the subject, found at 31 CFR 130.120-121. It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year. There are several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall including the following:
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>>73832696
On day 1 promulgate a "proposed rule" (regulation) amending 31 CFR 130.121 to redefine applicable financial institutions to include money transfer companies like Western Union, and redefine "account" to include wire transfers. Also include in the proposed rule a requirement that no alien may wire money outside of the United States unless the alien first provides a document establishing his lawful presence in the United States.
On day 2 Mexico will immediately protest. They receive approximately $24 billion a year in remittances from Mexican nationals working in the United States. The majority of that amount comes from illegal aliens. It serves as de facto welfare for poor families in Mexico. There is no significant social safety net provided by the state in Mexico.
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>>73832696
On day 3 tell Mexico that if the Mexican government will contribute the funds needed to the United States to pay for the wall, the Trump Administration will not promulgate the final rule, and the regulation will not go into effect.
Trade tariffs, or enforcement of existing trade rules: There is no doubt that Mexico is engaging in unfair subsidy behavior that has eliminated thousands of U.S. jobs, and which we are obligated to respond to; the impact of any tariffs on the price imports will be more than offset by the economic and income gains of increased production in the United States, in addition to revenue from any tariffs themselves. Mexico needs access to our markets much more than the reverse, so we have all the leverage and will win the negotiation. By definition, if you have a large trade deficit with a nation, it means they are selling far more to you than the reverse - thus they, not you, stand to lose from enforcing trade rules through tariffs (as has been done to save many U.S. industries in the past).
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>>73832696
Cancelling visas: Immigration is a privilege, not a right. Mexico is totally dependent on the United States as a release valve for its own poverty - our approvals of hundreds of thousands of visas to their nationals every year is one of our greatest leverage points. We also have leverage through business and tourist visas for important people in the Mexican economy. Keep in mind, the United States has already taken in 4X more migrants than any other country on planet earth, producing lower wages and higher unemployment for our own citizens and recent migrants.
Visa fees: Even a small increase in visa fees would pay for the wall. This includes fees on border crossing cards, of which more than 1 million are issued a year. The border-crossing card is also one of the greatest sources of illegal immigration into the United States, via overstays. Mexico is also the single largest recipient of U.S. green cards, which confer a path to U.S. citizenship. Again, we have the leverage so Mexico will back down.
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>>73831415
Because it's worth all of the effort to crush Hillary's ego. She's been in line for the throne for the last 10 years. She's like the final boss of the political establishment.

I could really care less whether or not Trump bans immigration from Muslim countries. As long as he operates with some of the spirit of his campaign still intact, then he's infinitely better than Hillary.

Also, the wall is an explicitly outlined policy. The Muslim immigration thing was something he mentioned in passing that was repeatedly brought up by the media.
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>>73832696
Conclusion: Mexico has taken advantage of us in another way as well: gangs, drug traffickers and cartels have freely exploited our open borders and committed vast numbers of crimes inside the United States. The United States has borne the extraordinary daily cost of this criminal activity, including the cost of trials and incarcerations. Not to mention the even greater human cost. We have the moral high ground here, and all the leverage. It is time we use it in order to Make America Great Again.
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>>73832333
Low energy. Hillary isn't getting her money's worth with you.
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>>73832611
REFORMING THE U.S.-CHINA TRADE RELATIONSHIP TO MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

How We Got Here: Washington Politicians Let China Off The Hook


In January 2000, President Bill Clinton boldly promised China’s inclusion in the World Trade Organization (WTO) “is a good deal for America. Our products will gain better access to China’s market, and every sector from agriculture, to telecommunications, to automobiles. But China gains no new market access to the United States.” None of what President Clinton promised came true. Since China joined the WTO, Americans have witnessed the closure of more than 50,000 factories and the loss of tens of millions of jobs. It was not a good deal for America then and it’s a bad deal now. It is a typical example of how politicians in Washington have failed our country.
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>>73831415
He's been saying the same shit about trade deals since '88.

He will build a wall.

Banning all Muslims is Unconstitutional but no need to take in refugees
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>>73832864
The most important component of our China policy is leadership and strength at the negotiating table. We have been too afraid to protect and advance American interests and to challenge China to live up to its obligations. We need smart negotiators who will serve the interests of American workers – not Wall Street insiders that want to move U.S. manufacturing and investment offshore.

The Goal Of The Trump Plan: Fighting For American Businesses And Workers


America has always been a trading nation. Under the Trump administration trade will flourish. However, for free trade to bring prosperity to America, it must also be fair trade. Our goal is not protectionism but accountability. America fully opened its markets to China but China has not reciprocated. Its Great Wall of Protectionism uses unlawful tariff and non-tariff barriers to keep American companies out of China and to tilt the playing field in their favor.
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>>73832545

>I can't be bought
>Maybe I can be bought
>I can be bought

Gee, sounds legit. Sounds like a guy really committed to his ideals.
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>>73832864
If you give American workers a level playing field, they will win. At its heart, this plan is a negotiating strategy to bring fairness to our trade with China. The results will be huge for American businesses and workers. Jobs and factories will stop moving offshore and instead stay here at home. The economy will boom. The steps outlined in this plan will make that a reality.

When Donald J. Trump is president, China will be on notice that America is back in the global leadership business and that their days of currency manipulation and cheating are over. We will cut a better deal with China that helps American businesses and workers compete.

The Trump Plan Will Achieve The Following Goals:
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>>73831675
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>>73832864

Bring China to the bargaining table by immediately declaring it a currency manipulator.
Protect American ingenuity and investment by forcing China to uphold intellectual property laws and stop their unfair and unlawful practice of forcing U.S. companies to share proprietary technology with Chinese competitors as a condition of entry to China’s market.
Reclaim millions of American jobs and reviving American manufacturing by putting an end to China’s illegal export subsidies and lax labor and environmental standards. No more sweatshops or pollution havens stealing jobs from American workers.
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>>73829424
Theoretically we could "figure out what the hell is going on" before Trump is even elected.
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>>73832864
Strengthen our negotiating position by lowering our corporate tax rate to keep American companies and jobs here at home, attacking our debt and deficit so China cannot use financial blackmail against us, and bolstering the U.S. military presence in the East and South China Seas to discourage Chinese adventurism.
Details of Donald J. Trump’s US China Trade Plan:

Declare China A Currency Manipulator

We need a president who will not succumb to the financial blackmail of a Communist dictatorship. President Obama’s Treasury Department has repeatedly refused to brand China a currency manipulator – a move that would force China to stop these unfair practices or face tough countervailing duties that level the playing field.
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>>73832616

>your

No, and it's obviously you're shitposting so this is the last (You) you get.
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>>73832582
>make press releases on it
>it never existed guys
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>>73832864
Economists estimate the Chinese yuan is undervalued by anywhere from 15% to 40%. This grossly undervalued yuan gives Chinese exporters a huge advantage while imposing the equivalent of a heavy tariff on U.S. exports to China. Such currency manipulation, in concert with China’s other unfair practices, has resulted in chronic U.S. trade deficits, a severe weakening of the U.S. manufacturing base and the loss of tens of millions of American jobs.

In a system of truly free trade and floating exchange rates like a Trump administration would support, America's massive trade deficit with China would not persist. On day one of the Trump administration the U.S. Treasury Department will designate China as a currency manipulator. This will begin a process that imposes appropriate countervailing duties on artificially cheap Chinese products, defends U.S. manufacturers and workers, and revitalizes job growth in America. We must stand up to China’s blackmail and reject corporate America’s manipulation of our politicians. The U.S. Treasury’s designation of China as a currency manipulator will force China to the negotiating table and open the door to a fair – and far better – trading relationship.
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>>73823066
Soon he'll claim the wall was "just a suggestion" too. And then every other policy of his "was just a suggestion". He panders to right wing autists to get them cumming for him hard, now he's pandering to leftists to make it seem like "he's not like those typical republicans" to them.

/pol/ will still be in denial and defend him thought. I'm a Muslim and I actually wanted him to ban more Muslims from coming in, but if he flip flops on this I don't see why I even have a reason to support him anymore. This guy's nothing but a con man.
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>>73832447
That's kinda the deciding factor for whether or not it's a part of his platform that isn't up for negotiation. He created a variety of fake policies just to sacrifice for party unity. A religious test for US entry was one of them.

It's like you Hillary shills are incapable of keeping up.
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>No, Donald Trump has not softened his stance on banning Muslims

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/no-donald-trump-has-not-softened-his-stance-on-banning-muslims/2016/05/12/6ec8d514-185c-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html


The ban was always temporary "until we figure it out" but it is happening.
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>>73833027
You have been blown the fuck out have a nice day
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>>73832545
He did just pick up Stephen Moore and Lawrence Kudlow as his new economic advisors, two of the biggest open borders, and free trade advocates on the Right.
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>>73832922
Okay?
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>>73833063
banning muslims from the us was the best reason I was voting for him. probably go 3rd party now
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>>73833008
Did we?
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>>73830693
Ahmed you can't even vote
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>>73823066
Hillary still at this. We're still not voting for you.
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>>73833063
>>73833137

See >>73833081
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>>73833063
Or maybe we could by the Policies he has actually laid on his website you know the ones he had up since the narrative a month ago was he does not have policies and has not said anything only now you guys are sure he was hard fast on the Muslim ban the whole time

kek
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>>73833076
>lie to get votes

just as sad as hillary
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>>73833137
>$.05 has been deposited into your Paypal account
>be sure to let all of your friends know that you are #ReadyForHillary
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>>73833137
Dont need you

the wall and the demographic shift is the only important issue
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>>73831415
Trump is trying to save us and will do whatever he has to in order to do it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPs17_AkTI
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>>73825151
I hope not, but we weren't even going to get eVerify with any other candidate. It was going to be backpedaled on otherwise.
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>>73833029
Having anymore trouble finding those official policies little buddy?
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>>73833239
not voting for him until he puts the muslim ban back in place
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>>73833239
Oh yeah, like he had those H1-B visa policy on his website and then went on live television during on of the debates and literally said he's changing it.
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>>73823797
>>73824688
I don't know if it's because I've been watching MSM more, but I've noticed they're just intentionally cutting off his interviews and have misleading headlines.

CNN showed the announcement, but cut it before he said "until we figure out what is going on"
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>>73833275
The muslim ban was always temporary if you've ever listened to his statements clearly rather than relying on what liberal butthurt media websites described it as

Oh and also, just for the record, the ban is not off yet
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/no-donald-trump-has-not-softened-his-stance-on-banning-muslims/2016/05/12/6ec8d514-185c-11e6-aa55-670cabef46e0_story.html
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>>73823066
Show me the Muslim ban under his official polices on his website
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>>73833377

>not voting for him until he puts the muslim ban back in place

Retard it was never out of place:

>>73833081


>No, Donald Trump has not softened his stance on banning Muslims
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>>73833428
Yea he explained why he changes it and you shills had no discourse against him because he did so.

The facts are the Muslims ban has never been under any official polcies


the wall and the demographic shift in this country is the only important issue to disagree means you dont belong here
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>>73830693
A ban deteriorates into serious vetting - which was the right thing to do in the first place. Serious vetting would have deteriorated into going though the motions and checking some boxes.

A ban would be fine though. They are outside the country so are owed no rights until allowed into US jurisdiction.
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>>73833244
How is it a lie? It was a proposed policy that he would like to see, but is not central to his platform. Hence why it was never written on the website despite floating around for several months. It's also something that he knew would draw a lot of attention, so altering or discarding the policy for the general is critical to breaking the leftist propaganda.

The main idea that he was trying to get across was that letting in innumerable amounts of refugees introduces a national security hazard. It opens the dialog, even if the original suggestion isn't going to be the final implementation.
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>>73831978
Donal Drumpf says he likes hispanics, but he called them rapists and drug dealers before. flipflop flip flop con man!
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>>73823066
Pretty typical of a politician, running to the center as soon as their primary ends. But the hilarious thing is Trump supporters things he's "real." He's as big a fraud as any one.
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>>73823442
>the right wing extremists are irrelevant
As they fucking should be.
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You're not supposed to defend this guy, fuck. People like you are what's wrong with politics.

He is being elected to do a job IN A WAY WHICH YOU WANT. If, he stops doing the job in the way you want, you're not supposed to fucking make excuses and defend him.

You all fell in love and wanted to suck his cock when all you should be doing is waiting for him to make America great again. The second he started to falter he got dropped from anyone who isn't a fucking cuck who falls in love with everyone.

Fuck all of you retarded cunts with some sort of repressed homosexuality.
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Trumpkins in full damage control mode again.
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>>73831415
You still don't get it! I'm using war as a business to get elected! So I can end war as a business...In my new America, people will die and kill...for what they believe! Not for money -- Not for oil -- Not for what they're told is right! Every man will be free to fight his own wars!
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>>73833700
Too bad hes not desperate and fake enough to be PC and do things that dont get experts telling him he would be out of the race months ago...right thats weird aint it?
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>>73833772
You mean the new shill narrative got ruined early on and now your blown the fuck out?
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>>73830693
Wow ur were on the wall were u. Well if we could build a wall with the fucks we give for whether u would vote for a potential candidate we would have kept out those Mexicans long ago
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>>73832870
I will jump on anything really unconstitutional within US jurisdiction, but the constitution does not apply outside US jurisdiction. I have no problem with doing whatever is expedient outside US jurisdiction.
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>>73831978
this
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anyone who thinks Trump is softening or changing his position are either shills or just stupid. Trump SUGGESTED that there should be a temporary ban on Muslims entering the country. He has said noting that contradicts that
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>>73823442
Isn't the whole point of voting Trump that he didn't play the same game as the politicians, but with all this Flip-Flopping he's proving to be worse than any politician because he doesn't actually have any positions and only says what is personally convenient at any moment.
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>>73833805
Give it time. Watch him turn so he can appeal to the American political middle ground.
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>>73833025
Yeah, only penalize those doing it. Others will eat the offenders' market share.
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>>73833137
You guys are shilling your heart out and I respect your commitment. But the fact is that anyone on /pol/ with half a brain knows that Trump is the strong nationalist he makes himself out to be both because he has been consistent in his views on global trade for decades and because there is no other logical reason for him to be running the campaign the way he has if he didn't mean it.
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>>73833884

why does it seem it was understood it was a proposal all along until now?
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>>73831218
DUDE HE'S JUST PLAYING THE GAME LMAO
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>>73834076
Yea but that seems like it would of been a disadvantage all along when your own party elite are against you no? I mean he is only out for money and begin a con man right?
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>>73833772
Believe it or not those are not mutually exclusive positions. In fact every politician no matter how sleazy speaks his mind every now and again. It is easy to see which is which if you study the man closely enough.
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/pol/ kiddos will never admit their mistakes, they'll keep spouting "b-but he has to say that in order to win the election", but in reality they're dying inside, wondering how they could fall for such a bait
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>>73831108

He has ALWAYS supported trannies. He's not pandering when he genuinely doesn't mind s them, remember the tranny Rudy Giuliani skit he did years ago. I seriously doubt he supports muslims, his hatred for them and the Saudis seems legit.
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>>73834265

You would probably do better to post all of the threads on the /pol/ archive regarding this since everyone who supports Trump on this board appeared to think it was genuine and not "just a suggestion".
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>>73823066
I will support him as long as he does Hillary like he did Jebbie.
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Hillary shills are getting desperate
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>>73832830
His "explicit plan" is to only build 1,000 miles of it. You're not going to get a wall that isn't swiss cheese.
When Trump is cutting back on even his core plans: his Muslim ban and border wall, it's time to re-evaluate.
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>>73834418
>his hatred for them and the Saudis seems legit.
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>>73834388

>I can tell when a businessman and career manipulator really means it and when he's just saying things to rake in voters! Trust me, he agrees with the stuff I want, and the stuff I don't like is just made up shit

Jesus fucking christ, do you even know how deluded you sound? The man is a pathological liar and manipulator. You don't have a read on him because nothing he says holds any water. It changes at his convenience.
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>>73823797
Yep, he was very careful to say this even the day he announced his plan.

Fucking lugenpresse.
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>>73834478
It was always a proposal no more no less anyone not looking at reality objectively is not my problem

>Simple Definition of proposal
: something (such as a plan or suggestion) that is presented to a person or group of people to consider
: the act of presenting a plan, suggestion, etc., to a person or group of people
: the act of asking someone to marry you
>or suggestion


http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/proposal
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>>73834628

Sure thing Hill Shill.
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>>73833798
I've noticed the parallels between Armstrong and Trump too.

>yfw memes were one of the strongest story elements of MGR, and memes are one of the strongest parts of Trump's campaign
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>>73832333

If you hate Trump, why do you come here and whine? Pic most likely related.
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>>73834677

I'm not voting for Hillary. She's a lying rotten old cunt. It's funny because the picture you posted could be applied to both Trump and Clinton equally.
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>>73832545
>(((Michael Savage)))'
>((( )))

What's with the parenthesis? I keep seeing this here and other places. Does it have any meaning outside putting emphasis on something?
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>>73834027
We know that Trump is the real deal at this point and I for one couldn't care less how he flip flops from now on. If he think it will help him win he should do it.

Because the fact is he is not a politician. He isn't doing this for the money or the power. Trump is literally George Washington tier in wanting to MAGA. So get ready Hillshills. We are coming for you.
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>>73834851

Whatever you say, Hill Shill
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>>73834851
The wall is the most important issue and the coming demographic shift if you dont agree you dont belong on /pol/
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>>73834785

>only people who agree with me are allowed in this echo chamber!! everyone else is being paid!!

Sorry, bitch. /pol/ isn't just for you deluded Trumpfags.
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>>73834541

>Muslim ban is a core plan

Nope, that was just something he brought up once Paris was hit by terrorist attacks.

>only 1000 miles of wall

In details he's always said that the wall will take advantage of natural barriers.

But I'm #cruzmissile now we need a #realconservative in office :^)
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>>73834989
Well it really is just like /int/ is for foreigners but they can still post here we will just out number them and shame them.
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>>73834911
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>>73823779
Have you ever fucked a goat and used a designated shitting street at the same time?
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>>73834989

Sure thing Hill Shill.
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>>73832922

Just because Trump wants to save a few shekels doesn't mean he is getting bought.He doesn't live and die by someone else's money.
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>>73835046
THIS

>I was going to vote for trump but then i found out the wall was not going to cut threw sheer mountain range and over water, we activly labled barriers, like a warhammer 40k peice
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>>73834851

So you're voting Trump, right? I've got news for you son, if you're not voting for Trump, you're voting for Hillary, it's literally that simple. Pick any third party candidate and they will lose, in dramatic fashion, this has always been the case and always will be so the real question is do you want Hillary or Trump in power, if the answer is Trump you vote Trump, if the answer is Hillary you vote Hillary, if the answer is I would like to throw my vote down a well like an insipid child, vote 3rd party.
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>>73834911
>He isn't doing this for the money or the power.

Holy shit you Trumpcucks are so delusional. We're talking about a man that lies about his wealth because he's insecure. For people like Trump there is never enoughn personal gain. His right hand man is a Blackwater exec, his Financial Manager used to work for George Soros and Goldman Sachs and this is only on the surface....

Are you really this stupid? Or are the 2 cents you're being paid for post worth it?
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>>73834912

It is a lawyer's job to defend people. Innocent until proven guilty. Or have you forgotten James Deen vs Stoya? A rape accusation doesn't make it true, you fucking hypocritical SJW twat.

>>73834954
>The wall is the most important issue and the coming demographic shift if you dont agree you dont belong on /pol/

Fuck yourself. It's a pipe dream and it's not going to happen. The sooner you come to terms with that, the better. Mexico is not going to build us a wall to keep them out. And it's funny that you cite the demographic shift when Trump is left of center on social issues. What good is building a wall of America rots from within? He's pushing tranny acceptance, he has openly supported gay marriage. Things you guys said you would NEVER in a million years back down on.

But sucking Trump's wrinkly cock is more important to you than staying consistent, so you'll see America's values rot anyways.
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>>73835218
THIS
tbqh

notice boys the shill dont want you to vote for Hillary they just want you to not vote or waste it in a third party this is how you know we can win.
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>>73834628
If a man has been consistent on his die hard nationalism for decades it can generally be assumed that he means it. The rest is just extrapolated. For example.

>If we import million of Mexicans into this country they will destroy our culture and turn our political system into a socialist hellhole. How could I as president fix this???
BUILD WALL

It's much harder to make a case that he is making this presidential bid as some kind of bizarre way to expand his influence than to assume that he means it. But if you want to make that argument be my guest.
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>>73835060

>shame

How can you even shame me? Just because I have more idiots disagreeing with me doesn't make me feel any semblance of shame. It just means /pol/ often has more stupid people that shitpost and bandwagon. Who cares.
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>>73825151
Almost everything he says is a "suggestion" because Congress has to authorize most of it.
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It was just a suggestion when he mentioned it. Same with special IDs, and other things like that.
He never said he absolutely was going to do these things.

Stop being mislead by fucking clickbait headlines. You're literally just like tumblr girls now.
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>>73833692
>Your food stamps have been sent to your nominated address. Thank you for participating in the #correcttherecord project!
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>>73835300
Sorry m8 >>73832696
>>73832753
>>73832781
>>73832811
>>73832838


Mexico has no fucking choice and even if you were not a trump support you would of learned this by now.

You literally telling me to not vote for anyone which would default to hillary who is even more against the issues you faking to understand.

lol you have no legs here m8 the literal OP narrative has been been beat out this is all a wash for you
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>>73835253
Yet if he is only in it for personal gain. Why would he risk his business reputation to run the most polarizing campaign in US history hurting his business interests in the process when there was no way to be sure he would even win the nomination let alone the general?
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>>73835446

>12 posts by the ID

You can probably buy a whole gumball by now.
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>>73835300
>It is a lawyer's job to defend people. Innocent until proven guilty. Or have you forgotten James Deen vs Stoya? A rape accusation doesn't make it true, you fucking hypocritical SJW twat.
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>>73835446
Well you have been literally blown the fuck out at every corner in this thread and the original Op's narrative as well this is consistent with most anti trump shit here.
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>>73835218

>If you're not with us, you're against us

Fuck off. Why would I vote for either of these dipshits when 1. Votes don't mean jack shit in my state, it's a landslide state and 2. I hate both candidates.

Neither of them are getting my vote.
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ITT: Shills who dont know what the definition of a proposal is and suffer for it
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>>73835650
then your a defeatist m8 because if you dont vote the default will be hillary which tells me your such a extreme character you would rather have someone who openly promises to be more liberal

nothing your saying has any gravity or relevance to us m8
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>>73835606

So are you going to criticize that statement in any fashion or are you just going to quote it and call me a shill? What about that statement was wrong or untrue?
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>>73835650
If you don't want to vote then don't vote, who cares.
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>>73835300

First off, you're the liberal shill here, so calling people SJWs is retarded, second off, any tactic useable to fuck over and destroy a liberal, commie, marxist, or anyone left of center is an acceptable tactic because this war that we are engaged in is a war for the fate of western civilization, the european race, and the survival of our families, children, and futures. The difference between us and SJWs is not that we are somehow morally superior in our tactics, but that our ends are worth achieving and not deliberately harmful to ourselves and western society and until you come to terms with the fact that you are betraying yourself and the american people by playing this little game of support the marxist and stop you are a traitor to the american people.
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>>73835795
You always have a right to rescue yourself from a case when you morally object.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2f13f2awK4

she admitted on live tape he should of never passed a lie detector test and she only took the case at the behalf of a politicians request


your done
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>>73835543
Because he's buddy-buddy with the Clintons. Don't you see, he is TRYING to lose. Why else would he start rolling back on his campaign's central plans? This is how Bill won in the 90's: some random billionaire shows up to mess with the right-wing's voting base. The GOP has been conned.
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>>73835617

>oh yeah well according to me, the guy who disagrees with you, you've been ABSOLUTELY BTFO at every turn in this thread rofl man u got owned

You're wasting your time. I also just realized that you're that faggot that was spamming m8 before and you're now not using it to avoid my filter.
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>>73823442
>right wing extremists
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>>73823066
hillary went full on SJW. even if trump isnt going to do anything and it would effectively be the same as hillary being president with a republican majority in the legislative branch we might as well pick trump to kill SJW faggotry and the medias attempt at controlling elections
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>>73835984


>You're wasting your time

This is coming from a #nevertrump shill

>you're now not using it to avoid my filter.

A triggered cuck, can't make this shit up.But honestly, are you lost?Do you enjoy being bullied?
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>>73835945
>You always have a right to rescue yourself from a case when you morally object.

That's not what I stated. I stated it's her job to present evidence to the best of her ability so that her client is proven innocent or guilty beyond a shadow of a doubt. The entire point of the American legal system is that we're innocent until proven guilty. Presuming guilt is not the job of a lawyer. I would look DOWN on her if she "morally objected" to clients based on her own presumption of guilt. We have a system in place specifically to avoid something like that happening. It's her job to present evidence so that any possibility of him being innocent is fairly presented in court. That you're such a bloodthirsty faggot that you want to paint this as being vile just proves you're a child and an SJW at heart. Your feelings trump proper law.

>she admitted on live tape he should of never passed a lie detector test

She said she found them dubious after he passed it.
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>>73835984
Yea the guy sitting in a debunked thread still crying about trump flip flopping is not wrong got it.
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>>73836250

>bullied
>by anime masturbators and alpha male roleplayers

Yes, I'm terrified by internet typing. You can't see it but I'm bawling my eyes out at the little kids typing cuck and shill. Oh please Trump dickriders, don't type mean things plz.
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>>73836290
Sorry m8 I specifically look down on her ethically and morally as she decided to defend a child rapist WHO SHE SPECIFICALLY SAID WAS GUILTY IN HER MIND.

She put her career over top a women and child at that and therefore ethically at fault
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>>73834574
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/03/31/donald-trump-muslim-ban-msnbc/82474894/

>Trump makes exception for rich Saudis
Hmmm...
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>>73836290
its in the recording did you listen to it or are you going to quote another falshood?
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>>73836600
High profile figures obviously are going to be easier to vet and hold accountable

or are you just playing stupid?
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>>73836426

>anime masturbators


Oh, it's little Ricky Wilson.How are you doing you bald cuck?Live suicide when?

>Yes, I'm terrified by internet typing.

Definitely triggered by it.


>Oh please Trump dickriders, don't type mean things plz.

Don't cry yet.We haven't even started.
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>>73836713
>Trump: "I have a lot of rich Muslim friends"
>Saudi princes staying in Trump Tower
>He's been bailed out by Saudi princes in the past

I wonder if Trump will have a conflict of interest when dealing with Saudi Arabia?
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when it comes down to it, a lot of Trump's platform is probably going to be subject to some sort of compromise.

anybody who didn't think this was going to be the case has no idea how our political system works. if you think this is a dealbreaker for supporting Trump, you aren't going to like the alternative.
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>>73836923
considering he is literally talking about banning Muslims in general he probably is not too worried about his relationship with Muslim countries
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>>73835543
>authoritarian left
>libertarian right

wat
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>>73823066
>HOW CAN YOU TRUMPFAGS STILL SUPPORT HIM?

Because our other option is Hillary, and she's worse.
Are choices are an asshole, who shouts "I'm an asshole" and an inhuman monster who shouts, "I am wonderful and nice! Love me!"
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>>73823066

Nice Shill tread.
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>>73835964
he gave money to the Clinton m8 wouldn't it make more sense that he ownes them?
>inb4 tin foil explanation
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literally everything he says during the campaign is a suggestion

he doesn't have any power yet
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>>73823066
Itt mad liberals get made when people considered ther opinions

You fuckers are breed to be outcasts
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he'll negotiate it down to a ban of immigration from certain muslim countries or a ban on refugees living here

fine by me
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>>73836923

>I wonder if Trump will have a conflict of interest when dealing with Saudi Arabia?

He didn't have a problem attacking a sadi prince that's helped out Trump before:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3422127/Need-bail-time-Saudi-Arabian-prince-slams-Donald-Trump-Twitter-GOP-frontrunner-mocked-Fox-News-ties-monarch.html
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>shills are so desperate they're starting to repeat old shit
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>What is Median Voter Theory for $500 Alex?

Seriously, for a board that claims to be about politics and political discussion, most people here don't know the fucking basics of politics to begin with.
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>>73832830
>made an ad for it
>"I approve this message"
>mentioned in passing
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Good it was idiotic
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>made an ad for it

He also made an ad with Hillary barking like a dog.


>No, Donald Trump has not softened his stance on banning Muslims

>>73833081
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>>73823797
THIS
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>>73823066
desu it wasn't applicable.
there is no way to tell who's a muslim and who isn't.
>inb4 they all come from Muslim country.
not everyone in Vatican is christian
>inb4 their brown.
thats just ridiculous
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>>73831108
read
>>73823797
you stupid fucking mongoloid
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>>73838450

>desu it wasn't applicable

Its a winning issue and Trump will still promote it with nicer language:


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/u-s-voters-agree-trump-muslim-ban-plan-article-1.2581285
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>>73823066
Shills, shills everywhere. The desperation is so thick it's hilarious.
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I told you all, you didn't believe me. Trump starts with an audacious proposal and negotiates down. IT'S LIKE YOU NEVER READ HIS BOOKS AHAHAHAHA~
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>>73823066
Do you see a Muslim ban here?

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

It was always a suggestion. A freeze on immigration from Turkey to Pakistan (like Obama did to Iraq in 2011) makes more sense than identifying what lying worm is actually a 'Muslim'
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>>73832129
What? It was ALWAYS a proposal, most things Trump have said are PROPOSALS. He never minced words on this, it was always referred to as "my plan" or "my proposal, the build the wall..." Why? Because the President is not a dictator, believe it or not.
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>>73839754
It will end up as a general ban of immigration from the Middle East sans Israel, probably. Like you said, you can't tell if they're just lying.
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...It's always been a suggestion. He's not a dictator.
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Honestly I never expected most of trumps controversial proposals to even pass the congress. If he wins the election, and continues to cause the amount of insane butthurt we are currently seeing from lefties I'll be ok. He's not my first choice by a long shot, but I will sure as hell be voting for him come election time.
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>>73823066
>politico

The muslim ban is happening, politico is just trying to take something he said out of context so they can shill against him.
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