>Wendy’s (WEN) said that self-service ordering kiosks will be made available across its 6,000-plus restaurants in the second half of the year as minimum wage hikes and a tight labor market push up wages
http://www.investors.com/politics/policy/wendys-serves-up-kiosks-as-wages-rise-hits-fast-food-group/
>>73809874
Gee, who could of not seen that coming. Want $15 an hour get replaced by a machine.
>>73809874
Good. The machine won't fuck up my order.
>>73810919
this.
>>73809874
>Minimum wage rises in like 1 or 2 areas
>company decides to automate everything
Wow. It's almost like the two things aren't related.
>>73810919
The ignorant spic and or nigger that has to try to decipher the racist white man words on the screen will still probably fuck up
>>73809874
>company using new tech to increase company productivity and decrease costs
>teach the gibs me dats how economics works
>order should be more correct, cause they can't fuck it up more as is.
All sounds good to me
>>73811236
The couple expensive areas might be enough to develop the system. Then you may as well deploy it everywhere.
>>73811304
Then me make machines to both take the order and make it.
>>73811236
What? If the one or two areas pushed this and they saw it did help reduce labor costs, why the fuck not get ahead of the curve and do a wide roll out?
about time, one step closer to basic income
>>73811443
He means they'll fuck up how to even order. This doesn't mean the machine is wrong, but Paco and Tyrone will think it's wrong
>>73809874
uh, i thought like 99% of all fast food restaurants, wendy's is a franchise.
i don't think all wendy's will do away with minimum wage slaves at the cash registers.
>>73809874
I guess those people will just go to college and there will be no negative effects at all :^)
>>73811504
Found the BernBot
>>73809874
i think "articles" like this are just scare tactics.
franchise owners will end up paying a shitload of money just to install those machines and upgrade their computer systems.
capitalists tend to not look at the long-term, but obsess over the short-term loss/gain.
>replace people with machines
>funnel profits away from workers and further into the hands of CEOs
>rich get richer, poor get poorer
>still decry basic income
>>73811743
/pol/s favorite economist advocates for basic income
>>73811236
You are literally retarded. No surprise though, most liberals don't understand how businesses work. Look up a simple thing called development cost. Also, ever heard of planning for the future?
eral question though, once niggers cant find work at BK and McD where will they go?
>>73811832
>unemployment reaches unsustainable levels
>corporate profits drop
>even more workers are put out of work
>short-term rise in stock and profits
>corporate profits drop again
>white people start to riot
>french revolution 2.0
>>73811898
>liberals planning for the future
k e k
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>>73811236
They're not related. They just want to be able to seem like they have a reason for massive layoffs.
>>73811999
>capitalists planning for the future
k e k
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>>73811746
>>capitalists tend to not look at the long-term, but obsess over the short-term loss/gain.
I remember reading an article about automation (albeit in factories, not food service) where they said the rule of thumb is that you buy the machine if it pays for itself in labor costs saved in two years or less.
so there's a tipping point where before they didn't want to bother because the payoff period was too long, but technology only ever gets cheaper, and labor is getting more expensive, so we've probably reached the point where its gonna start happening.
>>73810919
Definitely this.
However, there are still a couple of fast food places that pay attention to customer service. Chik-Filet (at least the ones I've been to) always have literate people taking orders.
>>73809874
It was always coming. It also will never completely replace staff. Robots cant clean floors or cook burgers yet.
>>73809874
about fucking time.
those jobs should have been automated a long time ago.
FIGHT FOR 15 LETS GO
does self service work in america?
with niggers and greedy fat-asses?
>>73810919
Holy shit this.
>Be me
>Live in Arkansas
>Be bluepillied as fuck, get wendy's all the time.
>Never get my order right
>Stop going to Wendy's
>Be in long distance relationship
>Bitch lives in GA
>Drive my ass all the way down there to see her
>It's 3 A.M
>Stop in Alabama, hungry af
>Go to only open restaurant, Wendy's
>Order food, thinking the innacuracy is a local thing.
>Dr. Pepper, Spicy chicken sandwitch (Plain) and fries
>Get sandwich with all the shit on it, and a coke
>Literally the only one around for miles, nobody in line, nothing stopping my order from being made right.
Fuck Wendy's employees
>>73809874
>tight labor market push up wages
I have the perfect solution, bring in a few more million immigrants!
#voteforhill
>>73811746
It's just a touchscreen, does not seem to expensive. Places like sheetz already do it.
>>73809874
If the economy goes bad can they fire the machines to reduce expenses?
>>73809874
thank god, now I don't have to try and communicate with illiterate nignogs
>>73811999
lol so much this. They have zero concept of dynamic systems whatsoever. Example: you want to make TV's in the USA? Have fun paying 35% more for your TV. Have fun paying 2000$ for your iPhone. >not understanding that brining industry back to the US will eventually change the value of the dollar, income, and cost of living.
>>73812273
they'll just find a new scapegoat
>>73812273
it wont go bad because of this.
we can just hire loads of unskilled labor to do random shit like clean the highways, clean the forests and fields, and so on.
>>73812270
PA fag detected.
>>73812340
>Sorry engineers and computer programmers. Economy not so good right now. Work for free right?
>>73811746
>A couple of ipads
>shitload of money
get a job anon
Wendy's usually have fewer employees because they exclusively empoly 6'4" chefs with 9" cocks. They usually pay these chefs around $120k.
source: I am one of these chefs
>>73811898
Why not simply automate the locations in areas which are going to be experiencing minimum wage hikes? They would be saving money and testing the automation strategy at the same time.
>>73812420
kek eastern OH actually. Sheetz is trash, but PA fags do like to hype it up.
If everything gets automated I see no reason why we need to have people at all. Just owners and robots.
I hope you live in a country with a low population density and some sort of natural commodity vital to machines.
>>73812431
the same liberals that want everyone to go to college get mad when tedious nigger tier jobs get replaced with high tech jobs... fucking hypocrites
>>73812493
Source of meme?
>>73812556
>If everything gets automated I see no reason why we need to have people at all. Just owners and robots.
wont happen for a long time.
we will just end up with more labor to do random things with.
>>73812550
It used to be boss as fuck, could get a ton of food on the cheap. Now they've expanded their marketing and like 6 mozzarella sticks is about $8.50
>>73812329
That is ok anon. The top 1% of earners will take care of us!
Populations are supposed to decrease as industrialization surges. But gubberment programs have been propping up birthrates for the low-class. America's on its way to becoming a nation of machines operating in a third world country
>>73812570
I think the breaking point will be when getting heavily into debt to go to college results in minimum wage with a good chance of unemployment.
People will just not bother.
these places should start using drones. a typical food order doesn't even weigh that much, maybe a couple lbs tops.
BRAVO, MINIMUM WAGE FAGS
Far as I'm concerned those people getting thrown out just hit the lottery. You couldn't possibly be making any higher salary from fast food that you could get from unemployment.
State should have a retraining program though to even things out.
>>73811743
Bernie and most other liberals these days would never be for UBI. Its too fair compared to normal welfare and would get rid of mountains of Government bureaucracy. They would bitch and moan how the rich and privileged white people are stealing from everyone.
>>73812602
I too have seen this before. I'm not sure when it started but I have seen in recently.
But they would have done this regardless of minimum wage increases. Your argument is bunk
>>73809874
Automation was inevitable anyways. Free market retards can't stand admitting it, but very soon we're going to have start thinking about how we organize an economy where there simply isn't enough jobs for the citizenry.
There are some people that just cannot sit and study or apply themselves in any meaningful way to a job that requires knowledge and commitment. They were vital to economies because they could still dig ditches, clean things etc.
What will happen to these people when robots do this and college people are working minimum wage/ soaking up all the welfare in retraining?
They will be surplus to requirement and their children will be good for nothing too. There wont even be the hope that their kids can clean toilets.
>>73812536
Saving money? It will cost them millions of dollars to develop and test the ordering systems. They would lose money if they only invested that development cost in commie neighborhoods. Also, requiring multiple sets of training depending on the location is very expensive for a franchise. Also, planning for the future. Progressivness is like dominos falling. Example: fag marriage
BERNOUTS BTFO
>>73812905
>They were vital to economies because they could still dig ditches, clean things etc.
they can still do that now.
there are loads of jobs like that that illegals do below minimum wage.
>>73812252
>go to a local Wendy's staffed by blacks
> order always correct
>fries always hot and fresh
Some of you guys have shitty luck
>>73812895
they don't think that far in advance, its too easy to shout them down like the sjw's do with calling people racist, same shit happens here
UBI is coming no matter what, either willingly or by force
>>73812732
>typical food order
>couple pounds tops
you sure your not using a proxy?
>>73813081
I just wonder when we will switch over to being penalized for having children.
Who is Wendy?
>>73809874
>foreshadowing their demise
>>73812570
>let's force the job market to be artificially competitive because we're afraid of transitioning away from capitalism in an increasingly automated society
>>73810919
>>73811236
To be fair self service technology was only a matter of time. You can find self-service movie theaters, self-service grocery stores, etc, etc.
But the funny thing is progressives will cry fowl because when technology is getting in the way of their ideal socialist ways.
However when technology suited them like Uber and Lift because progressives looked at it as great technology because the average hipster can give rides. and not have to get a taxi licence.
>>73811985
>>white people start to riot
>>french revolution 2.0
But will they? Not this time. People will have to be starving for that to happen. Look at Venezuela. It's on the edge right now.
>>73814222
It's almost like they don't realize Uber's end game is a fleet of automated cars and no need for a single driver...
The nigs will just shoot or hammer the machines
Why do you think detroit has bullet proof cash registers
>>73811236
Or
OR
It's almost as if they can see what's coming and are preparing just in case.
Although yes, eventually the robots will take over anyways.
>>73812905
>There are some people that just cannot sit and study or apply themselves in any meaningful way to a job that requires knowledge and commitment. They were vital to economies because they could still dig ditches, clean things etc.
>What will happen to these people when robots do this and college people are working minimum wage/ soaking up all the welfare in retraining?
>They will be surplus to requirement and their children will be good for nothing too. There wont even be the hope that their kids can clean toilets.
I work part time while I'm getting my trade. Most of the guys there are what you describe. One guy in particular has no high-school diploma. No training in anything. He doesn't even have a drivers licence. I just don't know whats going to happen to him. In the winter months he goes on unemployment. I should add he's a new father. So It doesn't bold well for his descendants.
>>73812329
oh yes, i always explain this to my friends. I'm good and ready to pay $50 for a steak and $40000 for a car if it makes america great again
>>73812144
>he actually thinks fast food corporations have to lay people off!
Nigger they leave after 4 months on average by their own accord.
why is Mcdonalds the only place that uses two windows?
they generally run a much tighter ship than Wendy's or BK
Nah the future is solvent green and robocop with mad max and strong big gov.
Awesome.
>>73811443
Eventually the CDC will force only machines to make your food.
That way, no more workers spitting in your food or putting their boogers in your food or the absolute worst, dropping the food on the floor and still giving it you much less pissing on your food or leaving pubic hair.
They will see a massive drop in customers.
I AIN'T GOIN TO DAT DAMN WENDYS WHERE THEY MAKE ME WORK A DAMN COMPUTER JUST TO GET ME SOME FUCKING FOOD
>>73812183
If there is one thing I miss about living in Florida is Chick-fil-et. Those places were everywhere and god damn delicious. Bonus points for making fags angry.
>>73815950
That might happen. They had self service at a my bank. Guess what happened? Old people walked past the kiosk and went straight up to the teller. Then they had an attendee at the kiosk helping people. I remember seeing an older Italian man get visibly upset he had to use a kiosk.
The removed to self-service kiosk in the same year.
>>73816615
the people that are willing to use kiosks bank online anyway, only old farts that want everything in person and on paper ever visit a bank branch.
what'll wind up happening as those people slowly die off isn't more kiosks in bank branches, it's just fewer and fewer bank branches.
>get rid of even more low-income jobs
>soon there will be nothing left because anything lower only hires illegals for far below minimum wage
>>73816615
Seen the same shit at the the airport. Shops with self service machines have the staff standing beside them doing it for the customers because of all the variables that the machine cant deal with including checking what flight someone is taking and of course alcohol.
Its hilarious.
>>73815097
Means you make more profits be because you don't have to hire someone to man the second window.
Fast food upper management is notorious for being Jewish about labor costs.
>>73816187
It's spelled Chick-Fil-A and I've been to many fast food joints in my life, Chick-Fil-A is top quality with amazing service and food, it really sucks there isn't any here in Canada. I went to empty my tray and put on the trash and a nice employee came and took it from me.
Truly amazing, that's why America is so magical. I fucking love America so goddamn much.
>>73809874
So will drive through be an indestructible touch screen or will I have to talk to Wendy AI for 5 minutes to get her to understand "coke, no ice"
lol bull SHIT.
You guys ever see the machines at grocery stores? They're always having problems and needing attendants to come over. "Wahhh the machine won't accept my money!"
Like hell this could work in a busy fast food place, especially with all the dumbfucks and old people who couldn't figure the machines out. "Hurrr durr how do I hold the mayo? Where's the button to hold the mayo?"
This shit is never gonna happen.
>>73809874
ahhahahaha
i think i'll start eating at wendys again to avoid niggers that both work at and eat at other places
>>73809874
Well this revolution is going to happen slowly, if it needs to be truly efficient then machines and employees must co-exist for a while giving the customer the option of using either the machine by himself or giving his order directly to the employee.
The minimum wage will always be $0 no matter what utopian leftists do. If they get too authoritarian businesses leave or automate.
>>73811236
Fuck you commie.
>>73810919
yup.
>>73811236
DON'T WORRY MY PEOPLE, THESE ARE THE ACTS OF EVIL CAPTIALISM, I WILL ENFORCE A BILL TO MAKE IT ILLEGAL TO US DEVICES THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY JOBS FROM HARD WORKING AMERICANS.
>>73809874
I love how fast food joints keep pretending they can't afford to pay their workers.
>>73812270
Is that a scene from Idiocracy??
>>73817741
Way to get triggered faggot. God forbid someone interrupt your little banker loving circle jerk.
>>73817944
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheetz
Gas Station/Convenience Store
Cool, i still wont eat that over priced shit.
Wendys has been too expensive for a long time, fuck them.
>>73812252
> long distance relationship
She's fucking someone else, you probably already knew that tho
>>73809874
Good comments on Zerohedge.
>>73817827
No one's pretending. It's called economics.
>>73812270
SHEEEEIIITTZ
>>73817791
> HARDWORKING AMERICANS
I think he would actually say IMMIGRANTS
>>73809874
>fast food completely automates
>starts looking into ways to automate food prep and creation, too
>finds cheap, cost effective way to do it
>"This will save us millions."
>discover that cheap, cost effective automation has regular maintenance and growing costs
>often breaks down, as things run 24/7 tend to do
>only takes one broken cog to stop the machine
>locations often completely broken down/unable to do business
>locations in less-than-pleasant areas often victim of vandalizing, rioting
>lose hundreds of millions of dollars
>close automated locations
>decide it's cheaper and far more efficient to pay the minimum wage
>because people are easier to replace than machines are
Let them automate. They'll discover real, REAL fast that automation isn't the solution to every problem, and they'll suffer as a corporation/company for it.
tl;dr: Automation is great for industry, not for food service.
>>73809874
WELL SHIT WHO WOULDA THUNK
>>73812270
Movie Theaters/Cinemas already do it as well.
Japan has had machines where you put in a coin or Yen and get token or ticket for the cook in a noodle soup restaruant since like 2002 at least. All mechanical. Like a vending machine I guess.
So... you don't even need a computer system to do this!!!
>>73818405
Which you know almost nothing about obviously.
>>73818140
It was rhetorical. Only Mike Judge can save us now.
>>73818480
http://singularityhub.com/2013/01/22/robot-serves-up-340-hamburgers-per-hour/
>>73818405
No, it's called allowing capitalism to wreck society. I know /pol/ is far too stupid to ever grasp how the rich could ever do anything bad, but they do, I assure you, regularly.
>>73812270
>touchscreen
FUCKING ABLE BODIED PRIVILEGE RRRRRREEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>73818678
Only niggers and spics work in fast food restaurants in the USA.
>>73818558
http://www.businessinsider.com/momentum-machines-burger-robot-2014-8
>>73818480
Have you never heard of technicians and maintenace staff?
But what of the millions of illiterate third worlders we imported to do these jobs? How do we make sure them and their 5 kids are taken care of?
>>73818678
The only thing wrecking society are authoritarian central planners meddling with the market.
>>73810919
No one here has worked food industry I see.
90% of the time the faggot who messes up the order is the idiots in the kitchen. Either they are in a rush or just don't read the full order cause lazy.
>>73812688
IRS had a chart in like 2009 that showed by Quintile the Income or Taxable Income for the top 10% was only like $80-$90,000.
Swear to god. But when tried to find the same slides, charts, data later it was taken down or I could no longer access it.
If you make $80,000 in the USA, you might be in the Top 10%.
>>73809874
YOU SERVERS/WAITERS AND BARTENDERS ARE NEXT. HAHAHAHAH GET FUCKED MILLENIALS
>>73818856
They have to go back.
>>73809874
that just brings us closer to the revolution
>>73818762
Ah the good old "only x work in x, therefore we should let corporations do whatever" excuse. Love it. Truly a piece of good heritage anglofilth.
The market is economically perfect. The only time there is ever a problem is when leftists use the state power to interfere with the market.
>>73817494
Chik fil a and In-N-Out are godly.
The yuros are missing out
>>73819003
This. It's just plain and simple logic.
>>73818678
Rich people do bad things, you say? Well, it's a good thing we live in a completely free-market libertarian society with no government intervention.
>>73818480
Instead of having 10 employees at one location working for $8 in hour (generous), why not have 1 tech working for $50-60/hr to ensure everything works?
>>73818603
>>73818852
>robot serves 340 burgers per hour
Guess how many it serves when it breaks down?
Hint: Zero.
If the maintenance response times are any indicator back when I used to do food service, we'll have entire locations down for weeks and months at a time. Not even McDonald's can afford that shit.
Also:
>technicians/maintenance staff
Not a single fucking food service corporation or company has their own technicians or maintenance staff. They all contract other companies to do that shit for them. They won't be on site 24/7 OR on call 24/7.
Trust me when I say that automation will inevitably destroy food service, and you may well get to see McDonalds and Wendy's disappear in your lifetime.
>>73818161
either this or shes a keeper
could go either way
>>73809874
If the minimum wage is not a livable wage then how can you justify working for minimum wage when the government will pay you more to not work? This is an important question to answer. Also we are effectively subsidizing companies who wont pay people a livable wage and are creating a bunch of free loaders. And lets be realistic, cutting welfare would be political suicide so that isn't happening.
>>73812252
>>Literally the only one around for miles, nobody in line, nothing stopping my order from being made right.
no competition to stop them making your order wrong
>>73819141
That's why you have 2-3 of them now just 1. This is fucking simple you fucking idiot
>>73819003
>>73819066
>This level of madness is common in America
>Americans wonder why everything is going to hell
>>73819071
Damn near. Corporations already do whatever the hell they want, don't pay their taxes, buy politicians and have revolving door policies with positions in the government. You retarded faggots actually believe capitalism is righteous. I mean, I could understand someone saying, I prefer capitalism out of the various systems available, but to actually have a cult organized around religious devotion to it? What the fuck is wrong with you morons?
>>73809874
Calling it right now. They'll have record profits from new business.
Wendy's is one of those places that seems to fuck up every order.
>>73819280
>two or three of them
What, technicians, or burger makers? Burgers aren't the only fucking thing that gets made at your average burger joint you fucking mong.
>>73819213
10/10 reply
>>73819280
So now each location has to buy 3 burger flipping machines? This is starting to get kind of spendy.
>>73812270
And it's not like they don't already have the screens, IT infrastructure, etc. already. Basically just cutting out the middle man and having customers input their order directly, as opposed to telling it to some min wage worker who then puts it in.
>>73818923
Former pizzaman here, this man speaks the truth. However, when it comes to fast food, foreigners who do not speak english well are a huge problem.
>>73818553
I'd say that an electronic system is cheaper than a mechanic one these days.
>>73811304
the nigs in the back probably have pictograms and color coded drawers/bottles to prevent any questions of interpretation
>>73818856
Don't worry, they'll take from us, either through entitlement programs or at knifepoint.
>>73809874
im going to predict this now
>machines are installed
>uncivilized minorities loose job
>come back with there packs and destroy the machines
>discourse insues
>riots in some town just to steal free burgers
>>73812163
That is literally what capitalists do ya dingus
> No more menu limitations inherent with hiring excons and dropouts.
> This starts a new fast food war, leaving only a few victors.
> We Demolition Man now.
>>73819622
>Hurr lets tear up every square inch of life on the planet to make short-term profits for a sliver of the human species while the majority live in squalor
>Hurr lets run everything on a power source that will become to expensive to extract within decades and never get off it
>Hurr let's erase all borders and import third worlders into every first world nation
Like hell they do. Capitalists are the worst planners on Earth. There is a solid fact that /pol/ can't seem to wrap it's room-temp IQ around and that is that sociopathy and cleverness are NOT the same thing as good judgment and intelligence.
>>73810919
>What else do you want to order, human fucking shit?!
>>73811985
T-001 Urban passivization units deployed to ensure the peace.
Pop drops to Utopian levels as all superfluous humans are removed
>>73817494
Benji is such a slut.
Always getting picked up by random blondes and never takes his hat off before, during or after.
>>73817643
Android/iOS integration so people can use their phones.
Also self-checkout at grocery stores is much more user intensive and difficult to supervise compared to serving a standardized packaged meal. There's a lot of different weight and bulk
>>73817703
>Well this revolution is going to happen slowly
I don't know about that, the transition could be like smartphones; one day no one is using them then the cost and quality reach a certain point and after that everyone switches over rapidly.
Now I want Wendy's. Thanks OP
>>73820056
It's actually developing nations that do the most to damage the planet, fuckstick
>>73816615
I don't use the bank very often, but I had $4,000 cash one time and I'm sure as fuck not trusting an ATM / self service kiosk to deposit that kind of money. I'm not sure if the two situations are directly comparable.
>>73820432
Not even remotely close. Does /pol/ even read ANYTHING before it forms a retarded opnion? The first world uses many times the resources of the third world and this isn't even a debated fact. You're just an ignorant moron talking about a subject you know shit about.
>>73820056
>Capitalists are the worst planners on Earth
The endless list of your modern amenities says otherwise.
>>73820622
You mean that come at the cost of LITERALLY everything? All it took was ruining both the biosphere and destroying human culture. A fair trade in the mind of a fat, stupid Ameripleb. And guess what, faggot? It'll be impossible to maintain in 15-30 years. Only proving my point, retard.
>>73811236
Nice bait but the article specifically quotes the min wage hikes as the reason for this.
>>73820610
Yes, it's the US and Europe that destroy the amazon for low quality farmland. We are the ones with cities like Hong Kong and Mexico city, with pollution so great the rich buy bottled air.
Kill yourself
>>73818480
This sounds like the argument against private roads. "Well if roads were private then every road would be a toll road, that'd be bad!" You have to consider that businesses will do what's best for them and invest as much as they reasonably can in self-service machines and compete with others on how best to automate food production and other parts of the business. They won't all rush in to automation without thinking about negative externalities.
Fuck Wendys!! From now on I'm only eating at places that employ human workers and pay them a living wage ($15+).
>>73819648
Loved that film.
Kinda borrowed off of Brave New World, though.
>>73811732
If by bitching and complaining on Tumblr about Student Debt, then there are no negative effects as far as I'm concerned. Fuck Debtcucks.
>>73818923
>>73819497
This.
As some have mentioned, it would have happen either way. Why pay people several thousands a month when a machine only needs some maintenance now and then for a much lower cost + no sick days to pay.
>>73821513
I still love the car designs.
>>73820056
> Being this much of a nature faggot
Yeah you are proving yourself to be retarded. Pretty much every socialist country digs up oil to supply the country with money in the short run. This reliance is just as bad as capitalism, nature fag. What kind of energy do you want America to live off on? Solar Power? Stop being retarded.
>>73811869
Who is this /pol/ you speak of? I'd live to meet him
W O W
Who could have possibly expected this outcome!?!?!?
I'm glad wendy's is doing this, instead of moving to Canada like BK
Also wendy's is like my top tier of fast food so having to deal with less retards at the stands is always good
Keep it up wendy's you'll always have my business
>>73821247
>Yes, it's the US and Europe that destroy the amazon for low quality farmland
Actually, it is. The Amazon is primarily destroyed for beef cattle and a large percentage of that meat is shipped to Europe. You dun goofed, retard.
Again, /pol/, if you idiots are going to make a retarded argument, at least do MINIMAL research to see if what you're claiming has any connection to reality.
>>73821693
>Sick days
I fucking wish we got sick days.
>>73819141
>Not a single fucking food service corporation or company has their own technicians or maintenance staff. They all contract other companies to do that shit for them. They won't be on site 24/7 OR on call 24/7.
Seriously the dumbest shit I've ever heard. You really think a giant corporation like McDonald's would just go out of business because "OOPS! We didn't hire maintenance and technicians to take care of the critical systems that provide us money!"?
You don't think that these contract companies to service the equipment wouldn't boom like a motherfucker after hundreds of thousands of these devices are installed?
>>73810919
This.
>Order at McDonalds the other week
>Ask for a Coke
>They give me sweet tea
>Go there last weekend
>Ask for burger plain
>They put mustard on it
>Go there again the next day for lunch break
>They forget my straw
>>73820996
don't believe it, they would have done this without a raise, inevitable.
Less social interaction is good for us autists.
>>73821986
Let's see some stats on that meat being shipped out little guy.
Robot-Nigger war coming in 2018
>>73819141
>If they go full automation they won't plan for that
You retarded or what boy?
When every industry went full automation they brought on full time techs to repair whatever is needed.
The future fast food joint will have at most 2 people at any given time: The manager and a technician. If your store is 24/7, you'd hire 6 people at most. (three 8 hour cycles with 2 people each).
Significantly cheaper than what? 20-30 people or so for each McDonalds.
>>73821986
Who gives a shit about the rain forest desu?
As humans we just keep moving to the next piece of farm land to cultivate while the old one regrows
Soon we'll move to the russian wilderness for our products
Resources are finite
The fact that you can type your retarded statement on a shitty mac book means someone had to put in the labor and resources to allow you to do so
>>73822423
>this
tho, a solution to not cutting down the forests and reducing resource consumption is to kill as many humans as you can, like mega holocaust numbers where meh 6billion could be a dream realized
>>73819141
There are already nearly completely automated factories that make most of the shit we buy. They can't afford downtime either and you bet your fucking ass there will be an on call or on site 24/7 maintenance and quality control techs if it's for a giant company like mcdonalds. 2 salaried techs plus a burger machine will pay for itself compared to a bunch of shitty minimum wage workers who will do everything they can to be as inefficient as possible.
>>73809874
I don't even eat there. Haven't eaten fast food in a while.
>>73822264
Nah nigga, only 2 techs per store for a 24/7 operation. Technicians are on call, have every second weekend off call and alternate.
Or even better, every store just has one technician and they rotate on call requirements for other stores as well.
>>73809874
I saw an article earlier today, can't find it thought, that said minimum wage jobs are disappearing.
>>73809874
Not surprising.
A good number of freedom stores (McDs) here have installed self service kiosks now.
>>73820996
I bet you believe everything that the government tells you as well.
>>73809874
Most gas stations with food bars do this already.
Sheets
Getgo
etc
Most (good) fast food places already have those "make your own drink" machines where you pay by the cup.
>>73809874
>MUHFUGGEN BIX NOOD
>excuse me?
>MAY I HAS YO ORDER
>number 4 combo with a coke
>*sheboon cackling in the background
>OKS GO TO DA SECOND WINDOW
>YOUS WANTED A NUMBA FAHV RIGHT?
>no a number 4
>OH MAH GAWD YOU TOLDS ME A NUMBA FAHV
>get wrong order anyway
good fucking riddance.
>>73818480
>>only takes one broken cog to stop the machine
The tacobell near my house lost their satellite communication connection. Apparently, that meant they were offline and couldn't process orders. Being way out here in the sticks, it took them 2 days to get it fixed.
They literally couldn't operate for two days because their internet went down. Guess what? Techs came out and fixed it and it's like it never happened.
Your doom and gloom scenario is ignorant of the conditions that already exist in food service.
>>73823114
>Sheets
>SHEETS
>SHEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT
>>73811746
Yes, it's called investing in the future. Invest a a good sum of money now for automation, and over the coming years, the lower labor costs will have paid for the transition and will dramatically reduce overall expenses going forward, because labor is one of the biggest costs in any enterprise.
>>73822985
>Minimum wage jobs disappear
>people vote democrat (US) / socialist (EU) to get shekels
>Left continues to destroy the middle class so that they win every election due to promoting gibsmedats
>No middle class means that companies go bust as no one buys their shit
>Western sociesty collapses and the fifth column muzzies take over
What a time to be alive
Having machines and robots prepare food is still far off for the big names in fast food. It's not that they can't, it's that they won't. Although it's kind of a joke as it is, every fast food chain proudly advertises that their trained employees personally assemble every burger and have some sort of special touch that their competitors don't. For them to have robots making the burgers is for them to tacitly admit: there's nothing special about the way your food is prepared, there's no love or care in it, the size and shape of the ingredients are all unnaturally consistent to better suit the repetitive motions of machines and to reduce the need for calibrations, and that you have a sociopathic interpretation of capitalism in which you care so little about humans, you're always looking for ways to take them out of the equation - the only humans necessary for your business are customers, and if there were a way to feed paying robots instead, you would.
This is why fast food chains only automate the process of placing orders, not fulfilling them.
You don't need a machine to make a fuckin sandwich
>>73809874
good, i hope it happens in all fast food. as a millennial autist, i absolutely hate interacting with bitter low cost personnel
>Go to Taco Bell
>Order 4 items
>Get 3
>Tell them they fucked up
>They accuse me of lying, no refund, no replacement on the item
>Call me a thief
Let them all get replaced by machines holy shit.
>>73811236
>378 wendys in california
>usually 3 people taking orders
>$10 an hour to $15 mandatory by 2022
>california alone would cost the company at least 11.8 million a year
>>73825662
nice math kid
>>73810919
This. Holy shit the last three times I've gone to a Wendy's they've fucked up my order every time.
And not minor shit like forgetting napkins or pouring the wrong soda where you could say "okay, yeah they fucked up, but it was busy and it's not a big deal so whatever", but major shit like forgetting entire parts of my order or giving me the wrong order entirely.
>>73822646
This
There's way the fuck too many people on this planet, need to cull the population N O W !
But reproductive constraints would infringe on muh freedoms as a human bean. Get the fuck out of here, the reproduction meme has to stop.
Abortions for everyone
>>73809874
Well, enjoy plummeting sales then because most people are too stupid/lazy to use a kiosk so they will avoid it.
>>73825662
>>california alone would cost the company at least 11.8 million a year
It costs the company 0 dollars, because any increase in operating cost is deferred to the customer you dumb fucking goy.
>>73810919
Fucking this
>Get Taco Bell the day Star Fox Zero comes out because there's a Taco Bell next to my Gamestop
>Teenage nigger is training another teenage nigger, god help us all
>Big Mama in the back screaming at the niggers in the front to stop flirting with each other and to do their fucking jobs
>Tell the girl I want the frito burrito box and a mountain dew
>Get a pepsi and the double beef burrito
>Tell them my order is wrong
>Cashier chimps out at me
>Nigger she's training chimps out at me
>Big Mama tells them to shut up and get the fuck out before she starts beating their asses
>Makes my order right
>Still get to keep the first order I got
>The one time I try to keep my order under control instead of getting like $15 worth of tacos and shit I still walk out with a shit ton of food
>Haven't gone back to that Taco Bell since
I hate when fast food gets taken over by niggers, it's never fucking good at all.
>Any McDonalds I have ever been to that has been run exclusively by niggers has never gotten my order right a single fucking time
>All I ask for is a cheeseburger with no mustard
>Somehow I get extra mustard
>>73828931
mc donalds already did it and is fine
>>73814222
I don't shop there, but went to a Target nearby, they now have a few self check outs.
A new movie theater has its own ticket machine too.
I think the only grocery stores that don't have self check outs are union stores or are just slow to adapt.
>>73828931
>>73829830
Shit is annoying when stickers at stores don't scan. Had one that couldn't even be scanned by the cashier and had to be entered by hand.
They shouldnt have over inflated their stocks post 911. Trust me a lot of companies did because they were given leeway.
>>73812493
Ahaha I remember that thread. Top kek.
>ordered a medium number 8 and a medium number 4 at the wendy's drive through today
>have to repeat each detail 4 times to the black girl taking the order
>takes 15 minutes to make
>get home
>they gave a large number 7, 5 jr bacon cheeseburgers and a dozens of ketchup packets
>>73809874
I don't see the problem here.
Society will adapt because it must, if menial shitty jobs like this wouldn't be automated away then we would all be picking corn in the fields or doing some other shitty labor that was considered necessary in 1800s.
can't wait for the future to be here soon enough.
>>73829268
>save money by firing 3 people per store
>raise prices anyways
>no longer does those locations have to pay workers comp
If you think they won't be saving money you a fucking idiot.
>>73828931
shorter lines for me so it's a win win
>>73811743
Yeah cuz you can't support basic income because it cuts down on government bureaucracy and lays off the tens of thousands of mouth breathers whose only job is to check a box on some government website so people can receive benefits. You have to be a berniebot. You ignorant slut.
>eating fast food
I literally cannot remember the last time I saw a white person working at Wendy's. Pretty sure they were the first major chain to prioritize hiring foreigners.
>>73809874
In a weird way, the staff that DOES remain get's a pay raise, which improves Quality of Life. The productivity of labor also rises in the aggregate through automation. Raising the Minimum Wage effects the economy in counter-intuitive ways.
>>73813184
>>73810422
They can replace specific tasks, but there are some tasks that cannot be automated. Read the book, "The rise and fall of American growth" where it discusses how productivity gains effects the economy in odd ways.
>>73825662
But the big bad corporations have bazillions of dollars in a safe in their house, so they can afford it
>>73819141
You get it. Nobody understands Automation because labor is a task-by-task process, rather than a holistic feature.
>>73809874
Why wouldn't they be available anyway? What kind of stone age operation were they running.
Sucks for after school teenage workers, but I love the things.
>>73810422
I don't get the 15 dollars an hour thing.
In Australia all these jobs were done by kids who get like 5 bucks an hour. Maybe a couple of late night clean up dudes on 17 bucks an hour.
Now no one does the jobs because we have self serve.
>>73810919
The order still gets fucked up because the kid taking it from the machine screws it up when prepping and packing it.
>>73832311
There is nothing counter-intuitive about this. These are the most direct and readily visible effects of minimum wage hikes.
>>73810919
Former fast food worker here.
When there's an issue with an order, upwards of 90% of the time it's because the customer didn't understand what they were ordering.
You used the wrong name, you said 'X' when you actually wanted 'Y', you misinterpreted how the coupon worked, etc.
But you don't have the intellectual honesty to admit you fucked up, so you blame the person who can't correct you without getting shouted at by their manager.
>>73809874
This makes me moist. Like raising the min wage will solve anything for more than a year when prices of everything rise and theyll be wanting to raise it to $25 and then that generation and the next and so on.. HAH! Tards.Eat shit.
>>73813315
I love the old POS keyboards back when I worked at McDs in high school (with a mostly white staff, obviously). When the fuckers switched to the digital touchscreen, my fingers were too fast to input orders.
>>73809874
IT BEGINS
STRAP IN AND KEEP YOUR FIREARMS LOADED
>>73809874
doh!
>>73809874
>minimum wage hikes and a tight labor market push up wages
>tight labor market
give me a fucking break
>>73810919
Also won't be a smart ass kid giving smirks.
Please stop raising the minimum wage
Low skill jobs are supposed to be cheap for a reason. Not every place can afford expensive modern machines.
i work at wendys
this will not affect me because i only open up in the morning and work on grill/fries
registerfags btfo
>>73832827
It's an utterly irrelevant topic.
Americans in these threads are so fucking stupid.
Automation is coming regardless of wages.
We use it here and the cost is not comparable to human labor. Unless you can get workers working for cents per hour, you're getting automated.
We have 1 person operating 8 registers compared to 8 workers.
Abolishing minimum wage or raising it is equally pointless.
These jobs are gone (or going). That's the reality.
>>73811304
Don't worry, flesh bags won't be touching your food.
>>73809874
Fast food joints were moving towards automation well before the drive for higher minimum wage.
If they could, they'd eliminate humans from the entire process. It's mass-produced food, after all.
I kinda like Subway
>>73833515
To clarify - If you abolish minimum wage...we're STILL going to use 1 person to operate 8 machines. We just pay them less.
>>73833672
Oh, and all those brave souls who stood up to le evil corporation by refusing to use an automated register?
After a year they all come back when they realize their food bills are double by shopping elsewhere.
No fucking business, especially not one as big as fuck McDonalds, is going to forgo including redundancy as part of the overall design in a big transition like this.
Instead of one giant burger machine, it'd be two or three smaller machines and shift the employment model to eliminate most of the line workers and replace them with a handful of better-paid technicians that work regionally between multiple stores.
People said the same dumb shit about serviced gas stations back in the 70s when self-service was still a "novelty'-- turns out replacing people and adding more pumps was a whole lot more profitable and efficient.
>get robo burger
>moldy bun
>rotten meat
>brown lettuce
>its been a few days since theyve had a customer
>nobody was there to tell the machines that the supplies had gone bad
>go to non-robo burger joint with human workers
>the asshole at the window purposely gives me a moldy bun and rotten meat because i made him get me change
t-thanks
>>73834026
Meant to comment this fag >>73819141
>>73833669
I went to my local one once and saw flies flying around the food under the hood that they work in and left. Since then when I go there with someone else who wants Subway, I always notice how generally disgusting they are.
There are other sub shops
>>73834026
We have automated service here in Australia at McDonald's.
There's no big shift in personel. They have high turnovers anyway. All that happens is they stop hiring and when people leave they shift the remaining to the back and other places. Open a new store? Transfer some staff.
No one even noticed or cared.
Retail is a dead sector now. Supermarkets will be gone in 15 years. We already have lost so much to Pick Up and Delivery services (that we operte) and have opened so many "boutique" stores which are basically glorified corner stores with a half dozen auto registers.
These replace by machine arguments suck. Automation will happen, no matter what the minimum wage is.
>machines will never call out
>will never be rude
>will never steal
>will never complain
Sounds good to me
If I could replace my employees with robots I would in a heartbeat
>>73817566
It's going to be a fucked up drive through. You'll have to deal with an indestructible touch screen
>>73820056
>Hurr lets run everything on a power source that will become to expensive to extract within decades and never get off it
Then why do you liberals hate Nuclear power?
>>73825662
This is satire right?
>>73834475
Smart phone app/online ordering as the primary method- Sonic and Taco Bell have tested the waters with this, and have had some pretty decent success habituating people to it. It's clear that they are looking to do something bigger with it.
Was going to happen anyway.
>>73829268
If they could raise prices without losing customers, they would already have done it.
>>73809874
Finally I will be able to order my food without some nigger spitting in it or some Mexican putting pickles in my food when I said NO PICKELS!
>>73834502
muh chernobyl
muh fukushima
muh issue-of-the-decade I care about to appear compassionate
>>73834502
>Australia is sitting on the worlds biggest supply of Uranium
>Australia is most geologically stable continent on Earth
>Literally a large bulk of the country is unusable for agriculture or human life - large flat rock deserts
>All of our scientists have said for years we should be operating on nuclear power rather than importing oil.
>Liberals cry and howl
>Sell Uranium to buy oil
Makes sense.
