Was he right?
>stein
Says the Jew that was butthurt about natzies
>>73783062
he was an autistic jew that came from the communist side of germany.
of course he had anti-white opinions like that.
>>73783062
Factually speaking a lot has been acomplished to further the progress of mankind in the name of nationalism so no.
Yes, but humans are shitty so in some cases moderate forms of nationalism are needed.
>>73783062
welp time to hand over palestine jew boy
>>73783062
If your entire post can be summed up as a one line question, it's probably better off not to post
>>73783062
>supporting the people who you have the most in common with is wrong
>stein
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME
>>73783062
No
Nationalism has been tried and tested ever since the first kingdoms were built.
It meant that people had a higher purpose than working for themselves. It meant sacrificing yourself for the greater good of something tangible as your fellow countrymen.
While nationalism did lead to the world wars, it was nationalism that carried the allies to victory during tumultuous and trying times.
>>73783062
Wasn't he also a stalin's fanboy?
>>73783260
Nationalism only works if people give a shit about each other. It's like communism, minus the gibs me dat aspect.
>>73783062
Mexico tried it. Ejected non-Hispanics and made it illegal for foreigners to own land. Now look at them.
>>73783062
straw man
this pic has been used for literally ALL sorts of ideologies
>>73783353
Which is where education (or indoctrination, depending on your stance regarding nationalism) comes in.
Everything amorphous and conceptual is appreciated or reviled as a result of being taught or experienced.
>>73783062
just put feminism, social justice or whatever you want on the flag and it will be the same. people are easy to manipulate. it isn't the fault of the movement or of some crazy dictator. it's your fault, when you fall down, cause you didn't educate yourself.
>>73783260
>While nationalism did lead to the world wars, it was nationalism that carried the allies to victory during tumultuous and trying times.
Yes, because Nazis were the least nationalist people. Dumb narrative tbqh
>nationalism causes wars
>one of the two nationalists parts of war is going to win and the other is going to lose
>nationalism is perfect because we won
lol
Yes, he was. Patriotism is cool, nationalism is stupid. Its a way for people to fullfill the emptiness in their life.
>>73783165
lol brother
>>73783062
> OP quotes Einstein, a Zionist promoter of Israel who wanted a Jewish state.
> Einstein: hated goy nationalism.
>OP got trolled by Einstein.
>>73783512
Don't be salty just because you're losing, Palestine.
Your people won't even be a nation if there isn't some form of nationalistic sentiment that allows you guys to continually resist Zionist advancements.
>>73783476
fuck off nationalism is just militaristic, expansionist communism
Einstein was a literal retard, that plagiarised many thing and that also abused his wife. He was a degenerate that used to fuck hookers.
Fuck this faggot.
>>73783062
I hate this tendency of people to quote scientists and other people of unquestionable intelligence as if they know everything. It's better than quoting celebrities, but not by much.
Einstein was good at math. He was also a cunt who married his cousin. And, more importantly, a Jew who had to run from the Nazis. So yeah, he probably had an axe to grind with German nationalism. Not with nationalism as a whole, though, because he promptly moved to America, which is still the most nationalist country on Earth.
So nationalism wasn't all that bad, according to Einstein, when it's about baseball and apple pie. Oh, and dropping nukes on the japs to prevent casualties on your own side. Not that I disagree. It's just hypocritical to say nationalism sucks after all that.
>>73783592
Chaim achi
>>73783062
No
>Nationalism is bad
t. Zionist Jew
I'm noticing some kind of pattern here.
>>73783062
>Stein
>>73783062
>Nationalism is evil
>Not like it was the driving force of the second longest period of peace in human history
>Not like it was responsible for spreading the ideas of the French and American revolution
>>73783062
Nationalism isn't fascism, contrary to what the picture is trying to say. Fascism is "all for the state, nothing against the state". Nationalism is is a political theory meaning a nation-state exist for a people.
Now, because he was one of the greaset mind of mankind when it comes to mathematics and physics doesn't mean he was a good political sociologist. They are way better references than Einstein in this field. Einstein's quotes are just great punchlines.
>>73783657
You make it sound like wars are a bad thing.
Wars create technology. Wars are the exact reason why Britain is a prominent first world nation, and not a backwater shithole.
The very reason why you are talking to me right now is the results of technologies designed for war.
>>73783062
Change nationalism to multiculturalism and you have our perspective. Also, Einstein was a Jew who is one of THE biggest players in the Jewish conspiracy to control your mind, right up there with Spielberg and the Rothschilds. None of you question acience, since you think it'it's the one thing that isn't open to interpretation, but Einstein, Oppenheimer and the other uberJews helped lead science in the wrong direction and they have you looking for the existence of the tiniest shit (subatomic particles) which is next to impossible to prove, and the data that is returned in the LHC is absolutely open to interpretation, and when you'v spent your entire life removing yourself from reality and learning autism thanks to the mathematical Jew, of course you're indoctrinated. And who is going to question these autists? You can't understand what the fuck they'really babbling on about, so you mistake them for geniuses.
Take but one example: you think the Sun is heated from the inside-out, thst it's mass causes a crushing weight and fusion in the core, which creates light. Everything we can measure about the Sun says the opposite is true. The Sun's Corona is hotter than the surface, and sunspots give us a glimpse of what's underneath the surface, which is even cooler still. So they come up with excuses for why this is so, and you lap that shit up and vehemently defend the theories if anyone even questions their validity. They got us so ass-backwards we don't even know which way is up anymore.
Thanks, Einstein.
>>73783062
>hurrrrrrrrrrrr just because i am a genius scientist everything I say is right
Einstein wasnt really stable , why should anyone take his approaches on politics?
>>73783730
>I'm noticing some kind of pattern here
About time anon! How new are you to these parts?
Your country may stop being nationalist, but the others won't.
Stop being nationalistic is just giving your country to the others for free.
>>73783688
Thank you.
>>73783560
Yeah you're right, who needs a homemarket when you can just have your successful capitalists ship all your industry overseas. Don't worry, you didn't need it, keeping that industry would be backwards and colonial of you. It is for your BENEFIT that we ship those difficult jobs away, but hey, since you economy is on the downswing, why don't we have some international bodies like the EU and UN press your country to accept mass migration, as you know, they'll do the shitty work that's left which nobody wants to do! Oh right, enjoy your shell of a country.
>>73783062
I'm very sure he prefered life in Switzerland over life in Iran.
>>73783062
> "Nationalism is an infantile disease."
The concept of "family" is also an infantile disease because you should be more concerned with your neighbor's children than your own.
>>73783592
I bet it triggers you every time you see that flag.
>>73783782
yes I agree but unfortunately with the advent of nuclear warheads wars are pretty dangerous for first world countries
>>73783062
>Was he right?
He was a fucking Jew, who had to flee from Nazi Germany. What the fuck do expect him to say?
>Oh nationalism worked out really well for me!
>>73783649
He was in favor of bi national state with peaceful co-existence alongside Palestinians. Not Israel in its current form.
>>73783656
I am not salty, and in a way this position you are talking about allowed me to have a better view of nationalism than you do. I came to realize that people are more important than "nationality" and so my view on our conflict is a matter of human rights, I think we should be able to live our lives in dignity, safety and be able to control our own destinies. And once we have these rights, I don't give a fuck if you call us aasgalsnglnzglnzglzxgnlxgnxlnxlcg. Years from now when people walk on the dust of your bones, your passport won't matter that much to you tbqh.
>>73783825
What's going on here?
>>73783062
>Jew who watched his people being killed by the National Socialists
Yeah, I am sure he was unbiased on this topic and not insanely butthurt about everything related to nationalism.
>>73783062
Einstein is responsible for nuclear bombs. hes killed more people than most ever will.
typical Jew
Are many poltards not aware that Albert Einstein was a Jew? Why keep emphasizing "stein" as if you made some groundbreaking discovery?
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_einstein.htm
>>73783062
Einstein was a zionist.
>>73783100
I came here to post this.
Also checked.
>>73783933
You'd think so
Haven't you thought that after more than half a century of nuclear technology that someone has yet to administer counter measures against nuclear weapons?
The only reason why it hasn't been announced is because, diplomatically, it would cause an imbalance in global peace. A superpower with nukes who can neutralize other superpower's nukes is a danger to every other nuclear armed nation.
But think about it, which nation doesn't think of self preservation when a catastrophic event was to happen? especially when it is in the realm of possibility.
>>73783062
If he's right, then we have to end Israel, since Einstein said no Jews in Israel allowed, we have to kill nationalism and populate it with Arabs, but only after they bred every Jew out of existence we can happily say that Einstein was right. Lets follow EInstein's advice, 3 Arab men per Jewish household would be enough to get rid of this infantile disease called nationalism.
>>73784175
He actually said that? Fucking based.
>>73783945
You say so, but here we are still divided between ideologies and philosophies.
Humans are inherently tribal; so long as we don't have a greater common foe that threatens both our existence, the nature of humans dictates that we will always be in conflict with one another.
We had tribes, then kingdoms, then empires and now nations. Call it what you want, but humans will always divide themselves with their petty differences.
>bert
>stein
>>73784266
Albert is a german name, not jew.
>>73784227
Bobby Fisher was a man of clear mind.
>>73783062
Albert Einstein wasn't smart, he stole most of "his" ideas.
>>73784256
That is true, but it is not bad to think of better alternatives, if we are going to decide our future based on our past then we'd still be using outdated methods. I am not pushing for a global government of anything, I like states and different cultures, but I also think there's better way to advance collectively and in a peaceful manner as humans that isn't blind nationalism and constant wars.
>>73783062
Measles is the measles of mankind.
>>73784580
Nice
>>73783062
Nationalism put a man on the moon
Globalism flooded Europe with rapists
>>73784496
Albert Einstein was good at some things, that doesn't makes him expert at other fields. When will humans learn that being good at one thing you aren't automatically good at other things. Einstein was an international guy and as such his arguments on humanity are invalid. Everybody that doesn't has a permanent home should shut up talking about people, countries or culture. People who are international should be wiped out from any country's politics without mercy.
>>73784504
Humans will always find reasons for war. If not for religion, then for ideals, if not for ideals, then for something they wish to protect.
The very fact that Christians fight other types of Christians, Muslims fight other types of Muslims, and people draw lines in the ground based on which crown they wish to follow, shows that humans will always fall into nationalistic (or tribalistic) tendencies.
The only alternative to escape this cycle of division, war and reconciliation, is to breed tribalism out of humans. Which would mean removing much of the population from the gene pool.
>>73783062
Patriotism is when love of your own people comes first;
nationalism, when hate for people other than your own comes first.
—Charles de Gaulle
>>73784729
>Charles de Gaulle
Great job Charles de Gaulle, France is now nigger and you can't love your people any longer, since they are extinct.
>>73783062
The nationalism he is referring to is not the same as today's nationalism.
The nationalism he is talking about was Nazi Germany that scapegoated the Jews and others for it's financial and socio-economical failings. That nationalism was taken to an extreme.
Today's nationalism like in the US, UK, Europe is to preserve the country from legitimate threats from an enemy that wants to destroy our countries. The Jews pre-WWII were suicide bombing cafes or shooting up office buildings. Extremist Muslims are and having some national pride will aid and protecting our people.
>>73784718
I believe we are inseparable from the animal kingdom, and even wild animals if given food, shelter, and safety they will become docile. Humans aren't much different, majority of wars happened due to greed and looking for new resources to steal, but if we develop our production means to be able to prevent poverty, and to help education quality in poor countries, we will be able to prevent many of the issues we face today. There might be wars, but the world will be a more peaceful place.
>>73783062
Well of course ((((Einstein)))) would say that, he was a Jew who hated his countrymen and left for America solely to build WMDs to destroy Germany at the first opportunity. He also cheated on his wife with his cousin, ripped all his best work off the Italians, and genuinely believed in crap like orgone theory.
>>73783062
You must understand that most political views are tools. A tool doesn't work on every situation. Sometimes nationalism is good, sometimes don't.
What the fuck does a physicist know but political theory?
If a political theorist said "vaccinations are the measles of mankind" people would rightly call him an idiot
>>73783062
>>73783945
He was in favor of Jewish ethnic nationalism, details aside. You've been trolled son. Trolled hard by a Jewish supremacist and failed, plagiarist scientist.
>OP reads "Einstein: The Incorrigible Plagiarist"
>OP never quotes Einstein again
>>73783062
As with everything he did outside his science, he was full of shit.
>>73783512
>nationalist Germans started the war
>not Poland and Bolshevik Jews
Senpai y u try
>>73784971
todays nationalism is about jews consolidating power over the goyim
>>73783062
https://archive.org/stream/TheManufactureAndSaleOfSaintEinstein-ThePropagandaOfSupremacy/TheManufactureAndSaleOfSaintEinstein_djvu.txt
Uncuck yourself.
>>73783945
>He was in favor of bi national state
so not just nationalism but double nationalism? hypocrite
>>73783062
globalist collectivism ftw
>>73783062
>Albert Einstein
>Taking a kike seriously about what's best for the non-jews
>>73784729
>I'm just going to say the first stupid shit that comes to my mind and people will buy it anyway
Nationalism is independence and protectionism. Period. What that guy said is just his poor interpretation.
>>73783100
/thread
/first
/dubs
>>73784729
"I'm gonna define words and you'll by the definition" some famous guy
>>73785124
Humans are like wild animals. We can be tamed (much like wild animals), but by no means domesticated.
You can tame a tiger, but that tiger's offspring can always turn out more vicious than its parents. Same goes for you; just because you believe in peace, does not mean your children (and grandchildren etc) would. For all we know, one of your descendants might turn out to become to become the most bloodthirsty and genocidal maniac that has ever graced this earth. And like the world wars, humans don't always fight for the sake of resources; people are prepare to kill and die for the sake of intangible things like loyalty and honor.
The only way you can assure that conflicts be controlled is domestication; selective breeding to get desirable traits and ridding of undesirable traits. That means turning wolves into dogs. That means turning man into something humanoid without the capacity for petty war.
>>73783062
Just to be clear about what Einstein said, this was his interview:
> Viereck: "Do you look upon yourself as a German or as a Jew?"
> Einstein: "It is quite possible, to be both. I look upon myself as a man. Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."
That is translated by the journalist from German, so we don't know his exact mindset, but he also said:
>I am against any nationalism, even in the guise of mere patriotism.
Anyway, this shows what his ostensible position was, and also what a hypocrite he was, since he was a committed Zionist and suddenly learned the virtues not just of patriotism, but of jingoism when it came time to encourage Roosevelt to build nuclear weapons to blast the German nation to smithereens.
You see this kind of meaningless hypocrisy from jews to this day. Jews are white Americans when they want to fit in with their neighbors, an oppressed non-white minority when it's time to scheme against the goyim, and citizens of Israel when it comes time to push the interests of the Chosen.
More broadly, people with a special knack for one topic (like applying Riemannian manifolds to Newtonian physics) don't necessarily have much insight into other areas.
Nationalism is a disease and that's why we have to have Israel take its walls down, it's beyond racist.
>>73783062
He may be good at physics but that doesn't carry over to anything else. Especially social aspects.
>>73786382
>Anyway, this shows what his ostensible position was, and also what a hypocrite he was, since he was a committed Zionist and suddenly learned the virtues not just of patriotism, but of jingoism when it came time to encourage Roosevelt to build nuclear weapons to blast the German nation to smithereens.
>You see this kind of meaningless hypocrisy from jews to this day. Jews are white Americans when they want to fit in with their neighbors, an oppressed non-white minority when it's time to scheme against the goyim, and citizens of Israel when it comes time to push the interests of the Chosen.
So much truth burguer.
>>73783062
>When President Harry Truman recognized Israel in May 1948, Einstein declared it “the fulfillment of our (Jewish) dreams.”[28] Einstein also supported vice president Henry Wallace’s Progressive Party during 1948 Presidential election which also advocate pro-Soviet and pro-Israel foreign policy.[29]
>nationalism for me, but not for thee! .t kikes
>>73783100
its always the jews that are against nationalism
oy vey i wonder why
>>73783062
Hilarious since he was a dirty Zionist.
>>73786353
I think we can achieve that breeding out through helping improving living conditions for huge parts of today's population and so according to the trend, population would decline or become more steady and the next generation will be better educated and less likely to start petty wars.
>>73783062
Nationalism is an identity, so even if 'nationalism' went away, we would just adopt a new identity. Those of us from European roots have our ancestor's religious identity to thank for marshaling against the Muslims, for example. Humans will always adopt an identity, because it's easy to justify their actions that way. I mean, look at the Democrats.
>>73786173
>i can english
Stop.
>>73786866
You can't chew gum hahahaha
>>73786907
>be on /pol/
>take your racism "back" to /b/
>>73786353
>Humans are like wild animals. We can be tamed (much like wild animals), but by no means domesticated.
Bullshit. Homo sapiens sapiens is comparable to canids. Some canids have been bred to thrive in human society for thousands of years (dogs), other have been bred to thrive in the wild for even longer (wolves). You can tame wolves (to some degree), but their pups will be just as wild as the parents originally were. Abandoned dogs become feral (although never as dangerous as a wolf), but their pups will be adorable and meek.
Humans have even more biodiversity than canids, and for the same reasons. Some branches of the human race had split off from others before the first wolves were domesticated. Humans who have been bred to live in civilization behave one way, humans who have been bred for the wild live another way. Extreme circumstances can deprave an Englishman, and strict discipline can keep a Zulu in line, but any change in the circumstance gives them the chance to revert to their natural inclinations and their children, likewise, will revert to their inherited rational traits.
>The only way you can assure that conflicts be controlled is domestication; selective breeding to get desirable traits and ridding of undesirable traits. That means turning wolves into dogs. That means turning man into something humanoid without the capacity for petty war.
Dogs and Europeans are both bred for war and are pretty damn good at it. The difference between dogs and wolves is that dogs are much more selfless with their friends, much more unforgiving of their enemies, and much more consistent at telling the one from the other.
>>73783062
Then why do Jews need a country?
>>73783105
which only shows how right he was, doesn't it?
>>73783251
That doesn't require 'nationalism' though.
>>73786832
That would be an ideal.
The last factor you have the consider is; humans with a taste of tribalism and conflict, have evolutionarily an edge against humans who do not.
The tribe who wiped out a sabre tooth den because they ate humans probably fared better than a tribe who wanted to coexist with the big cats.
Likewise when it comes to clash of civilizations, civilizations that have adopted a pacifist stance are wiped out by their warring neighbors (see Lost Indus Valley Civilization and some of the Mauri tribes).
So long as both kinds of humans exist at the same given instance, the warring kind will prevail.
family > tribalism > nationalism > globalism
>>73783062
Let's have a look at nationalist countries that will still exist after the west has vanished:
All of Asia, Africa and Middle-east.
Wow It's just plain wrong when caucasians do it.
Fucking liberals
>>73787084
see my post
>>73787325
Every human civilization that has adopted a pacifist stance has always ended in disaster when pitted against (unwillingly of course) with less scrupulous civilizations that don't mind killing and raping an enemy or two.
Evolution has ensured that the humans who were cunning, brutal, opportunistic and willing to kill, trumped over those who did not.
>>73787325
I think globalism is helping with this issue more than we care to admit. Take for example arabian tribalism, many of these tribe members moved to cities searching for easy life and since then many of these tribes disintegrated and have much less influence than it used to have couple of decades ago. The ever changing lifestyle and the ongoing technological progress add to that ease of access to information is helping shape new wave of generation that's less concerned with borders and nationalism and more concerned with individuality and preserving a globalist self image. With that being said, I am not claiming that all obstacles towards people with tribal brain set disappearance, but I still think peaceful approach and global cooperation is better than blind nationalism for humans to move forward to the next step of their evolution as specie.
>>73785691
>australia
Do I even need to say it?
>>73787550
That's not true entirely, take for example Egyptian civilization it lasted for thousands of years, and they were very pacifist compared to other civilization at the time. Arab civilization in Spain was at its height when they adopted reason, diplomacy and pacifism, and declined when they dropped reason and diplomacy which also led to pacifism being weakened. Being pacifist is not a bad thing for a civilization, but neglecting other factors is what leads it into becoming a weakness for that nation.
>>73783976
Uh...not being a Canadian and driving home the bar, at around 0350, doing up to 140mph because some BMW M3/5 (not sure, later model) was riding my ass at 100, far right lane (slow lane).
He tried to keep up twice, eventually I said "Stop, I go first, end of race." and ditched him.
Going high speed isn't hard if you use all 3/4 lanes during turns.
Vrooom.
>>73783062
>"Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind."
>Except for the Jews, hehehe, we need our homogeneous nation, you understand right goyim? hehehe
>>73783062
fuck me
are there are any jews who aren't communists?
>>73788116
>Einstein publicly stated reservations about the proposal to partition the British Mandate of Palestine into independent Arab and Jewish countries. In a 1938 speech, "Our Debt to Zionism", he said: "I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state. My awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power, no matter how modest. I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain—especially from the development of a narrow nationalism within our own ranks, against which we have already had to fight strongly, even without a Jewish state.
>>73787355
You left out the clan
>>73787550
You're missing my big point, which is that you don't seem to understand human biodiversity, even though you apparently understand animal-species biodiversity. You go out of your way to contrast humans (who, you claim, don't have domesticated varieties) with domesticated breeds (who have experienced selection pressure over the centuries). That sounds like some marxist foolishness you picked up in African-American Studies 101.
You're also missing my subsidiary point.
>Every human civilization that has adopted a pacifist stance has always ended in disaster when pitted against (unwillingly of course) with less scrupulous civilizations that don't mind killing and raping an enemy or two.
>Evolution has ensured that the humans who were cunning, brutal, opportunistic and willing to kill, trumped over those who did not.
No, evolution has not ensured that. Or do you genuinely think that the British are less scrupulous and more brutal than the Zimbabweans? The Zimbabweans are capable of unmatched cruelty and breathtaking deceit. Their problem is that they mostly practice it against each other. This is hard for many people to wrap their heads around, but different social systems reward or punish different kinds of behavior (in effect, they are unconscious breeding programs) and give rises to groups with different traits. The social situations which reward honesty and reciprocity allow those groups to cooperate beautifully. That cooperation allows them to amass the resources they need for war. It also allows them to use those resources flawlessly when they need to retaliate against cruelty instead of rewarding kindness.
And so in the end, the honest, soft-hearted Englishmen who believe in fair play and individual liberty end up just slaughtering negroids who believe in neither of those things.
>>73788268
He probably changed his opinion after 6 million of his kin was murdered.
>>73788117
Communism was probably a more heavily jewish movement than zionism, at least up until 1950 or so. In all the European countries that had trouble with bolshevism, jews were 1% of the population but 60%-100% of the communist leadership.
>collectivism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind.
fixed
>>73783062
I used to think this, but you have to realize it in the context of the time he lived.
In Europe, there were competing nationalisms within developed nations who fought each other for little more than their vain pride and brought the world to its knees. That was the reality he lived in.
I used to think that this senseless tribalism and overly imperialistic was wholly unnecessary as well.
But later on I realized that it doesn't have to be this way. The nation-state is the construct through which we carry the torch of civilization. It's how we protect society and its values and the ideas, hopes and dreams of the millions of dead people who gave it their all to give us what we have now. Without it, we'd be swarmed in refugees and migrants who don't share our visions, our hopes, our dreams. We'd be conquered by nations who don't share our morality or sense of justice.
If you believe in things like freedom of speech or freedom of thought as many others do, then the best way to defend these ideals is through the nation-state. These ideals may cross borders, true and that's good. There's no need to compete against others who share your vision. But you're a fool if you think everyone shares them. Niggers and sandniggers don't. So it's our duty to keep them the fuck out.
>>73788584
>The United Nations did divide the mandate, demarcating the borders of several new countries including the State of Israel, and the 1948 Arab-Israeli war broke out immediately. Einstein was one of the authors of an open letter to the New York Times in 1948 deeply criticizing Menachem Begin's Herut (Freedom) Party for the Deir Yassin massacre (Einstein et al. 1948) likening it to "the Nazi and Fascist parties" and stated "The Deir Yassin incident exemplifies the character and actions of the Freedom Party".
>>73783062
Sort of like complaining about humans having hands and feet. You can't change it.
>>73788698
>Msilanoitan
Sorry I don't speak Hungarian. Translation?
>>73788665
>Condemning one incident means you're against the whole thing
Nice try Abu Hajaar.
>>73788640
>for little more than vain pride
>>73788640
Don't you think these goals can be achieved without blind nationalism? Why does sane immigration policies have to come from a nationalist perspective? There's no need to label policies by political ideologies, if the people are wise and involved in the governing process they will be able to present such policies without falling for nationalism and what accompanies it most of the time of idiot populists.
>>73788698
Very clever
>>73783062
Albert Einstein was a hack. He was the Carrot Top of scientists.
>>73788810
What do you mean? You're from Australia you should've read that the right way.
>>73783062
Ethno-nationalism is cancer, especially if its dependent on religion as well
>>73788845
>likening one of the founding parties of Israel to Nazis
>Has repeatedly in the past announced his distaste of a jewish state instead of a jewish home in coexistence with arabs
>"H-he's totally agreeing, don't you see goy"
>>73788465
>Or do you genuinely think that the British are less scrupulous and more brutal than the Zimbabweans?
No, but the British certainly weren't saints and they certainly weren't pacifists. They were tribal as well, which served them well over the centuries of infighting and fighting other European nations.
Being cruel and brutal didn't guarantee victory in this scenario; technology and efficiency did. Technology and efficiency learned and refined over years of conflict.
>>73789101
Get off your proxy Schlomo, you ain't fooling anyone.
>>73788810
Bacically it mean "ghoulas". But this is not your regular ghulas ,no sir. The legends say when the hungarians adventuring in the steppes and found no food and the "great hunger" happend ,the gods of Tengri answered us above the Havens and they said. "A KURVA FASZOM BELÉTEK EGYÉTEK EZT FASZOPÓK!" and then this ghoulas came ,like manna.
>>73788957
>blind nationalism
I'm not advocating blind nationalism. I'm advocating informed nationalism.
Basically, if two nations A and B share their ideals and goals. Such an ideal can be freedom of speech. There's no reason for them to fight. There might be no reason to restrict immigration. Hell, they might as well be the same country for all I care.
BUT, this is NOT the world we live in. If you ask people if they support freedom of speech it sounds good and all, but do they really believe it? If you say to a muslim: "Criticism of islam should be allowed because of Freedom of speech." Does he agree? Many muslims do not agree. Can then the muslim nation A be merged with the secular nation B? Is it sensible to have unrestricted migration between them? This is a recipe for disaster. Hence nationalism is the conclusion. You gotta defend the values you believe in.
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>>73789016
God I love /pol/
>>73786673
Except for Israel.
>>73783062
In his day nations weren't importing 3rd worlders to delude the gene pool.
>>73783100
EinSTEIN?!?
>>73789421
Nations were busy freeing up space for them
>>73789074
I disagree. Ethnic homogentity makes an enormous difference in a country's crimerate and whether or not a person feels safe around their neighbors.
Compare Britain's crimerate to Japan.
jews don't want nationalism because it weakens their position, juden don't have a static nation but a religious and political collective ideology that binds them
nationalism is love for your family, at least it stems from that. it is only natural for the human to love people of his blood, people from his nation, culture, ideology and want to further their position in the world. such is the marking of a good man and a healthy nation
this is damaging to the international hyena because it betters us, unites nations and cultures into collectives. eases their way into higher civilization and binds them in strong bonds
look at turkey today, even though the turkish nation is becoming more divided ideologically and the problems of outside powers pushes us into a corner, the nation, the people from left and right political ideologies are coming together against the common threat because they are nationalists and their first loyalties lie with their people
arabs don't have this because they have been colonized and subverted by the jews and powers controlled by the jews. arabs no longer have the love of their people in their hearts, it was replaced by greed, lust for power and mindless religiosity by the colonizers
they want an easily controllable blob of uneducated and misguided man, as such they condemn the nationalist as evil
say no to their dirty games. family, nation, freedom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0V_xf3OQgM
>>73789587
>Ethnic homogeneity makes an enormous difference in a country's crimerate and whether or not a person feels safe around their neighbors
Ghettos are ethnically homogeneous, but I doubt anyone feels safe there
If you follow the advice of kikes you always lose.
>>73784580
i'm gonna go ahead and take einstein's word over that of a 98 pound effeminate closet case on 4chan
stay in school!
>>73791028
You opened my eyes with your witty retort, thank you.
I'm a #HillBilly now.
>>73789945
Pretty much this. The Jews are united in faith, and it's understandable that they fight to destroy nationalism, because love for ones country and people can seriously destroy unity through faith.
Pretty much how nationalism destroyed unity through Christianity in the western world and would be a great way to destroy fundamentalist Islam.
>>73791435
>Nationalism destroyed unity through Christianity
Nice b8 m8
>>73783062
Considering nationalism is what founded nations, united populations, fought off invaders, promoted revolutions, among amy things, I'd say someone is full of shit.
>>73783062
When he said that Nationalism was different from today. Back then I'd argue that he was right. It was fanatics who only cared only about themselves and saw others as subhuman even when they were the same politically or culturally.
Today we are actually seeing the result of mixing a high level civilization (The West) and undeveloped civilizations (Africa, Middle East, Rural Asia, India, etc.) Nationalism now is literally the idea that the West or specific areas in the West should not be subjected to this multiculturalist garbage which is completely sound and healthy.
>>73783100
pure coincidence
>>73789121
Technology and efficiency are afterthoughts. The key thing is reciprocal altruism, tit-for-tat. Read Axelrod's book, "The Evolution of Cooperation". Read Fukuyama's book, "The Origins of Political Order". Even when you give a bunch of Arabs modern tanks and aircraft they still loose because they have no fucking idea how to work together, even when they're on the same team.
The British are among the most peaceful people ever to dwell on God's green earth. But they also win fights. You don't seem to understand that "cruel and brutal" aren't questions about what and how much, but when and to whom. British are happy to be kind with kind people, but also to meet unkindness with massive brutality. Look at Kipling's poem, "When the Saxon begins to hate".
>>73784434
That is what happens when life is like a chess board to you
>>73783062
>stein
>>73784434
>>73793186
The film is okay too
>>73793101
And this is evidence of cultures being unequal and nationalism being a positive as we need to promote some over others. no?
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>>73783100
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z49iZ0O1bSs
>>73787749
south east asia talking about europe again
GOOD MEME
>>73783062
>Einstein
>outspoken nationalist throughout life, vocal during the first world war
>National Socialism is somewhat popular
>Einstein does a complete 180 and begins asking for military and economic measures against Germany
>writes to Roosevelt suggesting he could build an atomic bomb againat the Germans
>in 1933
>6 years before the war, months before Hitler even became Chancellor
>Makes numerous statements Nationalism is evil
>ends up being a virulent supporter of Israel, even was offered the position of Prime Minister
Fuck that hypocrite
>but he was smart anon!
Intelligence is like a gun, a tool that can be turned against you in the wrong hands
>>73794104
I'm sorry
*outspoken pacifist
Yes, the pervert jew who engineered devastating weapons had great sociopolitical ideas.
>>73783062
You do know he was jewish right?
Anyways, he just pissed because he was outsmarted by nazi-warhero Niels Bohr.
>>73793545
I just googled Esperanto Language as part of some research, I said aloud to myself, "if the guy who founded this is Jewish, that's it, /pol/ was always right!!"
Well I looked it up, found out it was Dr. Ludwig Lazarus Zamenhof.
Saw his wiki picture, immediatly i just knew something, then I read pic related.
>p u r e c o i n c i d e n c e
>>73783100
>>73783062
Not in the slightest. Saying "we should put our own country first" is the most logical thing to do. Not "we should let in a bunch of foreigners"
>>73783062
When was the last time a great theorical physicist made a great leader?
War between nations has triggered the creation of many mathematical formulae, inventions, etc because better technology to utilise gave people the upper hand in war. Some even say this was the social aspect which separated Europe from he rest of the world and allowed them to become so technologically advanced, all the nations were constantly in a state of war.
>>73783260
>Nationalism has been tried and tested ever since the first kingdoms were built.
The first kingdoms were built in late 18th century?
Its just a meme
Progressives love to blame nazis on nationalism but you won't hear them ever mention the socialism half of nazi.
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>>73783062
>political cartoon trying to convince the reader why nationalism is bad
>"it's bad"
>"it's really, really bad"
>look they are walking off a cliff
>>73784404
>/pol/ letting this slide
He's a fucking Ashkenazi Jew.
>>73783100
FPBP
