well /pol/?
I don't get it, is this supposed to be an analogy for gun control?
I dont even know what he is trying to say.
"Rich people ruined your society through migration, so you should hate rich people, but not the migrants because they are innocent and cant even vote in a nation they arent citizens of yet"
>>73778794
>Who should we blame, the people who cause the problem, or the people who must exploit it or risk losing their job.
No he's probably right. Immegrants are just dumb animals with no self determination.
>>73778794
We all know what you filthy LA RAZA agenda is and WE WILL FUCKING KILL YOU ALL,
LOW IQ SPICS CAN'T BUILD A WESTERN CIVILIZATION
>>73778794
How about the rich people who orchestrated the immigration?
>>73778794
>>73778794
It is obvious, that immigrants is not the main problem.
But it is current, "hot" problem and we should solve it now.
>inb4 it was the plan
>>73778794
You can do both
>>73778794
>immigrants don't vote
I don't get this meme, non-whites always vote for more leftism.
Your analogy doesn't fit and is stupid regardless. Also
>democracy
The worst meme of them all
>>73778794
I can't stand this collectivist speech. Fucking brainwashed commie.
>>73778794
He's retarded. Immigrants are used as a tool by the rich to get cheap labor.
How can a person be that stupid and not see this?
>>73778794
>occupy
>tumblr
Mexican intellectual
>>73778978
fuck beat me to it
>>73779369
This. Only rich people benefit from immigration.
>>73778794
So I assume he supports Trump then?
oh you fucking retard, I blame the powerful for letting the poor in
>>73778794
>don't vote
If only.
>>73779369
>>73780301
>hating the rich maymay
Reddit is down the hall and to the left
I blame the politicians who let people, rich or poor, game the system in exchange money and votes.
>>73780535
Nice try at deflection kike
They even admit to doing it yet the whole world just fucking watches
>>73778794
He's right, but the immigrants still have to go back. You can have the Asians too, if you take the niggers.
>>73778794
He has no idea which powerful people it actually is, he would just go after anyone with money if it were up to him
>You're only allowed to blame one group of people for problems
I think everyone who is against mass immigration blames all of the following for problems-
>EU
>Turkey
>Governments
>Immigrants
>Leftists
>Police
>Immigration Control
>Germany
>Merkal
>Celebrities
>Aid groups
>The Scottish
>>73778794
>immigrants don't vote
Fucker must be a rich cunt too, only a rich person would say this. They all fucking vote when they can so then can get even more.
>>73778794
Better idea, how about I blame the rich and powerful and, simultaneously, loathe the immigrants who are breeding out of control in my country?
>>73780608
>German politician
Jews have no nationality.
>>73778794
this fag died right? his scifi books were about a degenerate sjw utopia civilization
>>73778794
blow ur brains out in a cheap motel
>>73778794
The rich brought the immigrants and exported jobs.
We must reverse the actions of the rich.
What are we supposed to do, kill the rich and then reverse the damage with even less resources?
>>73780703
He's referring to illegals in America. However, they are probably still voting clandestinely within their segregated communities in the south, like in New Mexico.
There's actually a controversial law about requiring proof of citizenship through an ID or SSN at the voting booth, because Democrats are upset that non-citizen immigrants can't vote for them in those states anymore. Of course, they use the niggers as their perpetual shield.
>poor Tyrone never got his drivers license or one of the free Social Security cards or a birth certificate
>you're trying to stop blacks from voting! Rayciss!
>>73778794
What happens when people rise up and kill the government and suddenly self govern,
The rich don't have a leg to stand on then
>>73781353
>kill the government
>self govern
Are ALL the people going to govern? Who is going to govern?
>>73780698
And the jews, don't forget the jews.
>>73781054
New Mexico has less illegals than any of the border states, both in population and percentage of pop.
>>73780535
gas yourself, kike.
>>73779156
I can blame the rich for creating the problem of mass immigration and resolve the problem by deporting the migrants in a responsible manner and then holding the rich powerful people accoutable. I don't understand what the logical conflict he is trying to show. Im not obligated to provide an illegal immigrant a house and welfare and schooling. I shure as fuck am not obliged to look the other way when he rapes and pillages my country. The people who envite and protect them at my expense should be removed from power and punished. The refugees who commit crimes should be punished and then kicked out. The ones who lie about their age and where they came from to get more of my countries money should get kicked out. How are these things hared to understand?
>>73778794
Tell me what "society" is and what could possibly objectively be "broken" about whatever you fail to define it as.
>>73778794
He's absolutely right and /pol/ will absolutely defend this kind of shit as it destroys their countries and turns them into the third world. I miss the days when /pol/ was actually red pilled and not just a bunch of corporate harpies.
Our society is wealthier, healthier, better educated, and more technologically advanced than it's ever been. The only thing marring our accomplishments is the widespread alienation and depression caused by a lack of unity, because none of us have the singular cultural identity that centuries of coexistence carefully crafts.
>>73778794
You can blame both, you know, and we do. They are not at all mutually exclusive, and are, in fact, closely linked.
Not wanting to get shot in your own neighborhood, to have the value of your home plummet and being able to understand your neighbors doesnt mean we dont blame the 1% and Wall Street for all thats fucking happened in this country. Illegals are a symptom of this sickness, and they will be removed once we kill off the virus known as Wall Street.
>>73783046
This isn't necessarily true. People who otherwise have the cultural identity that centuries of coexistence carefully crafts, might still feel alienated in the wake of the American cultural expansion.
We've all become Yeezi, Coca Cola and iPhone, work harder get more. Have a kid because it's fashionable to send them to Disney Land.
We're lost spiritually fair and simple, and not simply because you have a muslim Pakistani for a neighbour - we'd still have the same problem. The American model is fundamentally depressive.
>>73782311
This and only this.
>>73782974
>corporate harpies
who do you think lobbies for those poor defenceless immigrants? they may not have the vote but they do have the most rich and powerful advocacy groups in the world on their side. H-1b? TFW? both enacted under ((conservative)) governments, strictly to favour big business at the detriment of the domestic worker. The immigrants are not the cause of the problem, but they're still the problem.
>>73783463
Tell me what your "cultural identity" is.
>>73778794
This is true, we are scapegoats, mexicans are a plague indeeed, but we are weak and most of us harmless
Niggers and Jews are the real white american problem, they can't get rid of them so they project the fury they feel on us, the weak beta country
>>73778794
You blame yourself, you cuck. The blame game fixes nothing. Only YOU can fix it, you can't wait on someone else to fix it for you.
>>73784254
"Cultural identity". Living up to the stereotype of arrogance when you mock the idea of a cultural identity at all. I couldn't sum up all that is my cultural identity, but it is tied to 1) My genetic kinship to the folks within this geographic region, 2) our shared ancestry and 3) the romantization of said ancestry through works of literature and art in general. Things that unified.
Your political and economical structures, as well as the media that you project work to make man self-centered and dissolves communal aspects.
>>73784884
Nice definition. Brilliant.
Given all humans stem from the same people, it is absolutely hilarious to me that you arbitrarily choose some random point in the distant past as when you think people have "sufficiently" shared ancestry vs not.
>>73778794
But society isn't broken. That's why we don't want immigrants. They will brake it.
/thread
>>73785537
*break
>>73778794
he's right, the most powerful ppl are pushing for the most disastrous consequences on all fronts ie global warming, endless war , wealth inequality ect.
the left tries to keep the system functioning and the ordinary person is just along for the ride with no say about anything
>>73780535
They're not hating all the rich in general, just the global elite ones that use their power to exploit people, AKA jews primarily.
Globalists and communists are our real enemy. They don't see labels as we do. They only see places on Earth they could infiltrate, destroy and control.
The rest are just peons on a chess game.
>>73778794
Literally who?
It's the poor's fault because they're implicated in the scam of liberals providing gibsmedats in exchange for votes to stay in power.
>>73778794
Isn't it the same Elites that are allowing laws to go to shit and letting those same fucks over into my country?
YES IT IS!
Same fucks who fund Amnesty
Same fucks who fund BLM
Same fucks who want to disenfranchise the white man as much as possible.
Why Yes It Is!
>>73785164
by your standards we have no identity to separate us from any single living thing since we all have some retarded unicellular organism in common from billions of years ago
The fact is Negroes and whites are barely the same species
>>73778794
Everything bad about america is entirely a function of mestizos and blacks. Obesity, unemployment, poor educational performance, violent crime, etc...
>>73785842
Since I think that's a wrong assumption, by my standards I actually don't.
Sorry to break it to you Abdul.
>>73785872
and yet it whites that want the wars , say they don't give a shit about anyone else and think global warming is a scam
stupid sister fuckers
>>73778794
More decisive bullshit. Every rich person is bad and every immigrant, illegal or otherwise, is good. And we wonder why we are at each other's throats.
>>73778794
>Should we blame the rich, powerful people who caused it?
The Saudis? Erdogan? The corrupt gouvernments of third-world shitholes? Sure.
Most rich folks aren't muslims though, nor are they socialist. That's why they're rich.
>No, let's blame the people with no power and no money
They don't have power, but they do have $6000 to spend on a one-way trip to the Bank of Gibs in Germany. Just imagine how much they could make if they chose to invest that cash in their own education and industries instead.
>and these immigrants don't even have the vote
Yet.
>Yeah, it must be their fucking fault
This guy doesn't have an argument does he?
>>73778794
And what about FUCKING THEM ALL ?
>>73778794
Yes, let's not blame the people who produce nothing, consume more than they produce, commit crime at significantly higher rates, and engage in the lawlessness and degeneracy we oppose. Let's only blame the super wealthy leftists who told them it's okay.
How about I blame both? How about I celebrate blue collar workers and the wealthy who built companies from the ground up without trying to destroy our economy and culture for their own self-satisfaction?
Welfare recipients and wealthy leftists funding and encouraging degeneracy vote overwhelmingly Democrat because the Democratic Party (mostly) reflects their agenda. Blue collar workers and wealthy CEOs who aren't encouraging degeneracy vote overwhelmingly Republican because the Republican Party (mostly) reflects their agenda.
And yet here is the "Occupy Wall Street" movement encouraging more leftist programs and culture rot. They are part of the problem. They are the children of the wealthy and welfare recipients.
>>73785936
>Given all humans stem from the same people, it is absolutely hilarious to me that you arbitrarily choose some random point in the distant past as when you think people have "sufficiently" shared ancestry vs not.
You absolutely did Jamal, since according to you we all stem from the same people, it is arbitrary to pick when these people became discernible.
Thus it is also arbitrary to pick when they became people and separated from non-people, since we all come from the same previous organism.
You may leave now, shill
>>73778794
Why can't we blame both of them?
The powerful allowed the immigrants in (as well as other bullshit). There, that wasn't so hard was it?
>>73786230
Yeah, I think we're descendants of the same people. But nothing is in the existential lineage of humans before humans.
Come on, Mohammad. That's part of your religion too.
>>73786376
>what are primates
>>73778794
Why not both? The people in power are the ones allowing the migrants to come in here and be leeches in the first place. They stopped caring about the good of their people and their country, and only looked to further their own power while fucking up as many people as humanly possible. So don't start with your false dichotomies you fucking cucklord.
>>73779920
In the US you have to be a registered citizen to vote. Having a green card or visa or being here illegally does not grant you those rights. I'm sure that's what he means by immigrants. Not just people who migrated here, but those who migrated here and are not nationalized.
Luckly I don't consider myself human so I'm not bound by the laws and lulz morals of the pathetic thing called, humans.
>>73786482
>what is creation
Tell me more about how you believe you're related to amoebas.
>>73778794
>you guys are poor?
>well let's import even more poor people who are even poorer and will make you poorer by giving them your job
>oy vey just accept and embrace the immigrants as your own people you bigot!
>>73786411
haha they weren't smart enough to survive on their own but it was an improvement to the stormfaggots dna
>>73780535
Go watch The Big Short.
The rich stole over 5 trillion dollars from the American people and the president at the time was forced to perform a bailout in order to keep the world economy from completely collapsing because of some greedy fucks on Wallstreet and at the banks.
The rich generally do cause most of the problems in this country through their greed. Just like how Senators are saying 174+ thousand dollars isn't enough to survive off of and they need a raise for the 9th time in like 6 years while minimum wage has sat the same since 2008.
>>73786208
Problem is all of that shit is completely inefficient by both money spent and power generated. It's COMPLETELY FUCKING USELESS atm, and will be until the technology behind it grows more. At that point it wouldn't need artificial spending for green energies to be used, people will just want to use it because its cheaper.
Worst case scenario if the alarmists are being truthful (which I doubt) is Antarctica and large sections of frozen, unusable sections of this planet become usable and some places closer to the equator become bigger shit holes.
rich consider themselfs above society, just have a talk with them
oh yea im a commie for daring to say anything about them
>>73778794
seriously, who the fuck blames immigrants for everything? the only thing theyre to blame for is terrorism, and even then, they share the blame with the leftists.
>>73778794
We're blaming both.
The illegal immigrants are the tools. They are wielded by the rich and powerful.
Why do you think the establishment candidates were absolutely BTFO?
>>73780608
Lol even his german wikipedia page calls him a jew.
>>73778794
>Implying these rich and powerful aren't globalists steering the society to support mass immigration
>>73786633
>watch this hollywood tripe and let it tell you how things really were
Okay shlomo.
>>73780301
how do rich people benefit from immigration?
I'm just really interested in this, so please enlighten me anybody with some information on how they benefit from it.
>>73778794
Also;
We are blaming the rich and powerful, and telling them to please turn off the fucking migrant tap.
And like the first fucking anon said;
>Why are you mad at the guns brah? It's the shooter you should be mad at.
>>73786792
What hans said
>>73786873
lel kek
>>73786633
Yep. The same rich people pushing for mass migration and open borders.
Also, you forgot that these greedy rich fucks could only operate this scam because of greedy poor people demanding easier access to housing.
You also forgot to mention most of these people were Jews, whom /pol/ always blames for everything anyway.
>>73787081
Shut up toothpaste
>>73778794
>Let's blame successful people, it must be their fault!
Cuck logic knows no bounds.
>>73786679
At that point it wouldn't need artificial spending
we've been using oil for a 100 years
>>73778794
You deal with the dog that has been unleashed on you before you deal with its owner
>>73778794
Blame Islam and the people that brought Islam here
>>73786503
how do they confirm registered citizens?
drivers license?
you're about to see the light or turn up the cognitive dissonance
don't like muslim refugees?
only 84 years from now
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/the-countries-that-will-be-so-hot-by-2100-humans-won-t-be-able-to-go-outside-a6710121.html
>>73778794
We should blame ourselves for letting rich powerful people import immigrants obviously. Still the obvious solution would be to GAS THE KIKES RACE WAR NAO
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Drought-Affects-Energy-Across-Latin-America-Not-Just-Venezuela-20160430-0015.html
>>73778794
Kill yourself marxist shitskin shill kike puppet
>>73787710
pretty soon the southern states might get too hot
>>73787908
>telesur
Get gassed autistic marxist kike leftypol shill
>>73778794
The immigrants are the tool you fuck. If someone hits you with a bat its useful to grab the fucking bat and throw it away,
>>73786503
But non white legal immigrants still always vote for more leftism. At least the ones we are getting currently. If we started importing Europeans or say Chinese that probably wouldn't be the case.
>>73778794
The poor are the tools of the elite
The elite have always used them to fuvk over the middle class
>>73778794
he's scottish, therefore a socialist nob jockey
in some of his books money has been transcended
>>73778794
Marx. It's been Marx for a century now.
http://www.global-warming-forecasts.com/2025-climate-change-global-warming-2025.php
The rich are mostly Jewish you antisemitic fuckface.
>society works just fine
>niggers show up
>society becomes shit
>it's the guys runnin society's fault
>>73778794
Iain Banks was a typical champagne socialist. Lived the wealthy life most of his life, and made some token efforts to "atone" for that by buying hybrid cars or some such. Dude still had a bigger carbon footprint than most of us will ever have.
And really, what is it about modern mediocre sci-fi authors walking besides their shoes, as we say in Dutchland? He's not the first iffy writer to think he's got the answers to it all. Meanwhile, the best writers have all been dead for decades and never pretended to have all the answers. People denounce them as cunts, for that, but their work stands in eternal memory, while Banks will be forgotten 20 years from now, because all he ever wrote was useless wish fulfillment.
Huh, when I put it like that, it's no fucking wonder he was a leftist.
Either way, Mr. Banks, I DO hate the rich folks who caused this. They are, however, all leftists. Like you. Didn't think of that, did you? I don't really hate the migrants. I just hate the fact that they are here. Me wanting to send them back isn't a sign of hatred. It's me wanting to fix my country. I want to fix their countries too, though. but you'd call that colonialism, like the leftist cunt you were.
>>73786563
we are a hybrid of aliens and chimpanzees
they have 48 chromosomes while humans have 46
no transition fossils found
chimps have none of these god awful genetic defects, those came from the aliens.
the aliens had no fresh genetic material among their own kind
we were created all right!
>>73789007
No, we aren't. You can believe we are all you want though~
>>73778794
>Should we blame the rich, powerful people who casued it?
>>73779151
He is assuming that the problem is economic and that you are blaming immigrants for taking jobs.
He is not talking about the migrant crisis and does not see multiculturalism as a problem.
>>73789811
>blaming immigrants for taking jobs.
This leftist meme needs to die. Literally the only people who do this are Americans, and they're talking about ILLEGAL immigrants.
One of the big problems with legal immigrants is that they DON'T work. They are welfare tourists, and quite openly admit it, too. Sure, not all of them. But enough to be a problem. Certainly the shitstains currently flowing in from Pakistan and Afghanistan claiming to be Syrian, thanks to Mufti Merkel.
That bitch should hang, BTW.
http://suprememastertv.com/bbs/board.php?bo_table=sos_video&wr_id=73
