Polls have shown that 85-90% of all Canadians approve of our single payer healthcare system. Why wouldn't it work in America as well?
Cuz
The insurance jew and medical heeb.
I don't really understand why people hate the idea of it.
I make reasonable efforts to live a healthy life. Others do not. I do not want to subsidize their poor choices.
>>73745954
>Our citizens approve of it
>Therefore it is flawless
I also need sauce on those stats.
>>73745954
Niggers and our massive welfare state. We give out too many free rides as is.
>>73746288
But every American would save money at the end of the year. You're not "subsIdizing" anybody. Everyone is just pooling their money for the sake of everybody.
>>73745954
When you have as many niggers and illegal Mexicans as we do who take their kids to the ER every time they have the sniffles, you'd understand why single payer will never work in the USA. Until then, keep assuming Canada and the USA are exactly the same, maplenigger.
>>73745954
>Something works in one country
>It will 100% work in a completely different country
This is like the retarded well gun control worked in x,y and z so it must work in America arguments all over again
>>73746293
Literally just google 'Canada health care approval' you'll see a bunch
>>73746288
>Fuck you got mine
Why do you not care about your fellow countrymen? Why do you feel like it's okay to allow people to die of curable disease in this country?
>>73746425
Like we were going to safe money with Obama care?
Face it the US Government cant run anything without losing money.
>>73745954
Polls have shown that 85% to 90% of all Canadians approve of Justin Trudeau. Why wouldn't he work in America as well?
>>73746783
The numbers are closer to 65% approve of trudeau. And because America is a lot more right-wing socially then Canada
We pay like 40 cents out of every tax dollar for healthcare, if we happened to be anywhere besides next to the states we would be like the fucking aussies.
>>73746710
If you guzzle 2 liter cokes every day and snack on candy bars dipped in ranch you do not deserve one single penny of mine.
If you have bareback gangbangs every weekend and need to cure your hep C do not fucking some to me asking for sympathy.
>>73746971
>Not even a full year in office
>Only 65% approval rating
WE CAN WIN THIS NEXT ELECTION
>>73746778
I don't know much about obamacare or the resulting prices it has cost the average American, but I feel like it's a good thing that all the poor and less fortunate people I know and work with now have an actual good level of healthcare that they never had their entire life.
>>73747040
What about nice, law abiding citizens who have hit hard times and then get attacked by some coked up idiot? Should they go bankrupt to pay for the injuries somebody else gave them?
>>73746039
DEMAGOGUE SYNAGOGUE ,
the jew invent all kind of language to feel superior and control the people with those lame word .
>>73747040
This isn't how single payer health care works.
>Oh looks like there has been an influx of hep C in this area of the country, better track down Anon so he can pay up more for the health coverage of all those poor disenfranchised black people :^]
>>73746971
I don't care.
The point is what kind of non-Canadian country makes its decisions based on what Canadians think.
>>73745954
Approval does not mean it works
I am for either single payer, or a full repeal of EMTALA86 to allow hospitals to means test (like any other business).
The current hybrid system we have is shit. It's the govt holding a gun to your head to force you to buy a product from a private company.
>>73746693
>Canadians
>Not spineless chickenshits
>>73747267
the coked up retard should be forced to pay for 100% of the costs
Because 50% of our population doesn't work. We can't afford it and neither can you.
Why should healthy individuals subsidize the chemotherapy of Tyrone the chain smoker or the triple bypass surgery of Pablo the Twinkie addict?
>>73747149
What's this?
A reasonable moderate opinion on /pol/?
GTFO
>>73745954
Because there are 300 million Americans. Socialism doesn't work in large countries.
>>73748747
Cokes up retard dies of an overdose- now what?
>>73749490
Then your shit out of luck.
>>73746425
I spend $80 a month for a high-deductible health policy that has a $1,500 deductible and a maximum out-of-pocket limit of $3,500. My employer gave me $1,000 to put into an HSA and I contributed $50 a paycheck to that as well.
There is absolutely no way that your proposal of single-payer being cheaper is remotely true for me and we haven't even begun to talk to the massive downgrading care I would need to receive in order to subsidize all these fat niggers.
Take care of yourself you communist piece of shit.
>>73747149
At the expense of anyone who had a Cadillac insurance policy, sure.
Weird that you left that part out, though.
>>73745954
that poll is biased against people who died
>>73745954
Niggers and beans.
>>73747149
the california version of obamacare saved me like $5 a month over what an independent plan would cost and I'm thinking of switching over because the state government run programs are a shitpile of non-working websites, non-working phone lines, spam mail, stupid fucking paperwork requests that get lost half the time and require you to resend them, and absolutely useless agents. Can't fucking wait until i get to go back on work insurance.
The only part of CCA and obamacare I like is that it makes it possible for people to get insurance with pre-existing conditions. You shouldn't have to die or be forced to live in poverty on medicaid because of the bullshit pre-existing condition rules.
But there's almost certainly a better way for the government to help those people.
>>73745954
Steven Crowder said that care for mild issues, but there is a significant problem with getting expensive surgeries serviced. Things like hip replacement, broken bones, surgery, will put you on a wait list that lasts for months.
>>73745954
why do you think anyone cares about what Canadians think? They are an exception totally incompatible with what the rest of the world thinks.
Too many fatties and illegals who will find ways to get in on it. Our fatties are already a strain on the system, your fatties would collapse it.
>>73747149
Like more Americans, I like that too, but I don't want to pay for it. If you want to pay for the healthcare of the poor and unfortunate, nobody is stopping you. There are charities that do that.
>>73746262
I guess the it doesn't really benefit very healthy people who aren't going to get as much out of it as people who are very ill or injured.
>>73745954
It will never work in America because it's simply not the American way (liberalism). American's see public health care as an infringement on personal freedom, and I personally hope it doesn't change. Say what you want about America being 60% white, they are the least cucked nation on earth.
>>73750342
I promise I can spell when I'm not high
>>73745954
>Why wouldn't it work in America as well?
It's not a matter of it working or not, it's a matter of the majority wanting it or not.
We are a democracy afterall.
I've lived in Canada for about 15 years, I actually never had to go to the doctor a single time, im paying 50% of my income and 20% sales tax on every item I buy, I also have to import shit from the states which get slapped with duties. The fucking infrastructure in this coutnry is ridiculous and everyone rips you off. Sure Canadians approve because they're all brainwashed and don't know any better. NORTH KOREA is the only other coutnry that bans private health care besides Canada, and yes North Koreans approve of their system. Polls do not prove anything cuckman
>>73745954
how well will it continue to work? did you know that in europe they have already made cut backs to their version of universal health care
they no longer decrease the body temperature of people who have suffered a heart attack while taking them to the hospital. this was a recent change
basic income in canada with reduced oil production and the possibility of all your maple syrup production going up in smoke makes me think you wont have the same quality of health care next year at least
>>73747149
I wasn't poor or less fortunate until suddenly no one would employ me except as a contractor or PT under 24 hours a week. I'm finally working fulltime for the first time since 2009. It took seven years for me to get back to where I was when Obama took office, during which time I wasn't insured at all.
>>73750627
The logic is that once you get older you'll need healthcare, and that's when you get a return on all that fucking money you had taxed from you.
1/3 of all lifetime health care costs occur in the final 6 months of life. And for what - to keep grandma around another few months?
>>73750927
The problem with that argument is that everyone complaining about that is going to change their mind when they get old.
>>73745954
Where are you guys gonna go to get your surgery if we go single payer
>>73750790
no you don't, did our ancestors have healthcare? when they got sick they got sick, if they were gonna die they died, if you get cancer or aids well too fucking bad most of the time its your fault for for not taking care of yourself.
learn to fucking lift and quit eating shit, then you won't ever have to see a doctor. I've seen 90 year olds with perfect health because they take care of their shit.
Fat obese fucks and sickly people deserve death. Health care is for entitled faggots, its a refuseal to accept the laws of nature
>>73751585
I agree it's obnoxious that people get healthcare for being fat, and complications of fatness. But surely you recognize that someone getting healthcare from injury due to a workplace accident, car accident, natural disaster, etc. is a good thing.
I'm more iffy about someone getting healthcare for a genetic disease. On one hand I would want my kid to get treated for liver cancer. On the other hand, him dying is good for the species because his weak genes gave him cancer. I get that you don't want to pay for my kid, but you could wake up tomorrow with butt cancer and you definitely would want healthcare for your butt.
>>73751585
lol
>>73752116
nope, if i get cancer I'll just die
honestly though if you look at healthcare in some southeast asian countries its completely private and affordable because hospitals compete in the free market
it might cost from 10$ to a few thousand dollars depending on what the illness is. Only serious illnesses are expensive, but you have to make a compromise in those cases and accept the fact that you're dead. Single player healthcare is just going overboard and like all socialist systems is full of bureaucracy and inefficiencies.
>>73752697
>nope, if i get cancer I'll just die
I'll take your word for it, but you wouldn't be the first to break that promise.
>honestly though if you look at healthcare in some southeast asian countries its completely private and affordable because hospitals compete in the free market
Affordable, fast, quality. Pick at most two of the three.
>it might cost from 10$ to a few thousand dollars depending on what the illness is. Only serious illnesses are expensive, but you have to make a compromise in those cases and accept the fact that you're dead. Single player healthcare is just going overboard and like all socialist systems is full of bureaucracy and inefficiencies.
I'm inclined to agree, but it's a tough sell to emotional voters. Like, should we spend $5000/mo on the care of an AIDS patient who was careless about unprotected sex? What if they got AIDS from getting raped by a pack of sabretoothed niggers? Do we as a society just give up on all "complicated" medical issues?
>>73745954
I just got an infected knee. Feels bad man. My whole lower leg was swollen for a bit. I had to get blood tests, X-rays, and 2 different kinds of ultrasound. Only had to pay for pills, sweet.
The only downside was the wait to see doctors or specialists. There's always a schizo in the waiting room and they always go insane when I gnostic meditate to pass the time.
>>73748747
Must be nice to live in the land of should.
>>73745954
Wait time to see a specialist in Canada is 18 weeks
Wait time to see a specialist in America is 4 days
Our healthcare is shitty. If you actually need anything serious done you are fucked. Doctors are just there to clock in and get their paycheck. They don't give a fuck about quality or being good.
>>73749767
Suspiciously underrated.
