http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Gary_Johnson_Immigration.htm
LIBERTARIANS BTFO
Fuck me I thought that was just a meme
>>73714452
k
explain to me how simplifying immigration system to bring down the number of illegals in the country to make sure they pay taxes and are can help bring in money into the economy with less occupational licensing regulation to lessen reliance on the welfare state a bad thing
>in b4 muh white nation
>>73714452
Well shit, I guess I'm center-right now, Johnson is just as Vicky as Clinton
>>73714731
They go back and come back in legally. No other way to ensure it. Open to other ideas. Lay it on me brother.
Libertarianism is literally jewish communism. It's just a way to dissolve the state and put all property in the hands of jews.
>what interstate commerce
he never said open immigration, shitheads.
>>73714452
libertarianism has ALWAYS been open borders
libertarians = mini-statists = not based nationalist
>>73715316
that damage control
>>73715159
if they havent broken any laws not on welfare know English pretty well just give them an easy path to citizenship
the incredible amount of money people have to throw away just to come here without any priority from a business is ridiculous and its thousands that could be used to start a business or invest in that instead is given to bureaucrats and lawyers
>>73714452
Another cuck trying make money from destrying the west. Day of the rope when?
>>73714731
>Maybe if I inb4, that will automatically invalidate the very real value of race, culture and the reality that diversity creates strife & social tension.
>>73715405
>if they haven't broken any laws
They broke federal law the moment they crossed the border.
>just give them an easy path to citizenship
No.
>>73714452
Hahaha lolbertarians are such a joke...
Glad I left that party...
>>73714452
Well you can forget about him helping Hillary now.
>>73715376
>libertarianism has ALWAYS been open borders
really, then why do some people here like it?
if you have open borders then you don't even have a country
>>73715405
>its thousands that could be used to start a business or invest
We don't want them here and we don't want their money.
>>73714731
And that is why you can never trust a libertarian. You just want to turn the same people who are illegal now into legal immigrants. All you fucks care about is
>muh $$$
Not identity, not culture and certainly not race. For you and Goldman Sachs the melting pot meme may be great. Hopefully this mentality will be rooted out in Europe soon.
>>73715316
"My vision of the border with Mexico is that a truck from the United States going into Mexico and a truck coming from Mexico into the United States will pass each other at the border going 60 miles an hour. Yes, we should have open borders."
>>73715216
How is that communism?
>>73714452
And this is why so many libertarians eventually become nationalists.
>>73714452
>They work the lowest-paying jobs. And they are taking jobs that other Americans don't necessarily want. They're hardworking people who are taking jobs that others don't want.
I FUCKING HATE THIS FALLACY
Why do libertarians have to be such faggots. I want to be free too, but I don't want to look at short, fat brown Mexicans while I'm doing it. I mean what's the point of being happy and free if these goblin looking motherfuckers are all over the place?
>>73714452
the libertarian party isn't libertarian
it's liberals who are fleeing their side because it's gotten out of control
I had to leave the party this election season, everyone in it is fucking trash
>>73715604
Because it makes sense. I'm not against immigration, I'm against the government subsidizing it with my money, and preventing me from shooting them for stealing my shit.
>you don't have a country without borders!
Yes, that is kind of the point. I would much rather have a small local government that actually manages affairs competently than a massive state that can barely raise tax.
>>73715742
The goal of communism is the dissolution of the state and putting all property into the hands of the "proletariat" [aka jews who appoint themselves as caretakers of the revolution].
Libertarians are absolute cancer and should be killed en mass.
I used to be a libertarian when I was younger but it's just not sustainable. The diehard group believes in free movement just like liberals.
>>73715667
In theory it's a good idea and it worked a century ago (keep in mind that US citizens used to run guns to Mexico during their Civil Wars early in the 20th Century) but too many issues right now.
But "The Wall" is stupid too. Cheaper to invade, wipe out the vermin, and annex the territory. The original plan during the Mexican American war was to annex much further South, but the government decided not to risk it because they didn't have all of the information.
>>73715859
>>73715651
So, why not just refuse to hire Mexicans, rent to Mexicans, or service Mexicans until they leave?
If the government isn't preventing you from doing so, you are fully in your rights to do so.
>>73715316
yes he did
if you're a proper libertarian be vocal in denouncing this trash and rationally explain it to people why open borders and a government period are mutually exclusive
libertarians are not anarchists, and without a defined citizenry, there is no government
>>73715376
Fucking. Retarded.
our 'mini states' job is essentially only Border Security. Read a book on the subject for god sakes anon.
>>73714452
>Libertarian
>2016
You chuckle fucks still haven't figured out it's a meme? Get on this new form of Trump nationalism or get the fuck out.
Hi /pol/,
I am an insider working with Roger Stone. Stone has informed his staff that Hillary and her campaign strategists plan to split the Republican vote by promoting Gary Johnson. This is why you are seeing a greater coverage of the Libertarian candidate on MSM news.
Please ignore these Johnson threads. Copy pasta this text and share with other /pol/ members in any Shill Johnson threads that appear.
Sincerely,
Anon
>>73715883
>your small local government will be able to exclude people
the border starts on the national level as it stands right now retard
your small local government has no power
you know what you'll get when the immigrants come in? it'll be worse
>>73715399
>>73715667
>idiots
He's talking about trade goods, not wetbacks. As governor of N.M. he had the lowest rate of illegal immigration.
>"the work visa does fall under the Constitution and that would be a federal rule. It would be complicated if you had a work visa in New Mexico and Colorado would not honor it. When President George W. Bush proposed amnesty he never meant dual citizenship and thats why in my opinion that the issue did not advance. Then he backed off. Why do we elect a president? We elect a president to lead and push the dialogue and make people understand."
>>73715405
California doesn't check to see if people are legal before giving them benefits. As long as they have a drivers license they get it. I live in California. So you're not wrong. You just don't know what's going on on the ground.
>>73715911
>it's the le libertarianism is the same as communism
kill yourself faggot
>>73716055
Most of us are riding the authoritarian-nationalist wave with Trump. its a FAR better option than any others and steps in the generally right direction all shit considered.
>>73715911
>Dissolution of the state
No, dictatorship of the proletariat is simply that the proletariat is the holder of political power.
>"proletariat" [aka jews who appoint themselves as caretakers of the revolution].
A proletariat is not a Jew caretaker, or appointee, or anything of the above. A proletariat is at its very core a worker in an industrial society. A worker is usually in Marxist terms someone that creates value.
>Libertarians are absolute cancer and should be killed en mass.
Good thing I don't disarm myself.
>>73715376
most libertarians are more nationalist than republicans
the thing libertarianism is fundamentally based upon is that the state is necessary, it has few essential functions, and civic involvement and nationalism is key
country first is how this country used to operate, and libertarians largely want the way things used to be
all these open borders cucks are fucking leftist pieces of shit just making a grab for power with what they think are populist messages
>>73715216
>libertarianism is Jewish communism
I thought regular communism was Jewish?
>>73716128
>your small local government has no power
That is sort of the point. If my local government is shit, or I do not consent to it, I can easily leave.
>the border starts on the national level as it stands right now retard
A border is just fixed territory. That is it. There is nothing magic about it.
>you know what you'll get when the immigrants come in? it'll be worse
If immigrants are genuinely fucking things up and being unproductive, then they'll either starve or get shot for stealing. If I want to be proactive about this, I just don't do business with immigrants.
>>73715991
because massive corporations have more labour buying power than a simple anon, and they don't really have a stake in the society of their country because they are rich enough to let everything else go to shit?
why don't libertarians understand that privately owned companies can be as cancerous as the government and usually are worse because their sole reason for existing is $$$?
>>73715779
>mfw a fellow "libertarian" doesn't understand supply and demand near me
Gary Johnson fucking DISGUSTS me
>>73715651
>muh identity
your no better than that special tumblr snowflakes
>I-IM WHITE GUYS LOOK AT MY SKIN COLOR AND MY BACKGROUND THE PEOPLE WHO JIZZED IN MY SKIN MADE THINGS THAT MAKES ME SPECIAL AND ANYONE WHO IS NOT LIKE ME IS CRAP NO MATTER WHAT THEY MAKE WITH THERE LIVES BECAUSE THEY COME FROM A NON WHITE JIZZ BRIGADE
take you entitled crap somewhere just its not a business fault you lack of skills is why they hired a turk for cheaper
>>73715615
cause that work so well in the 1920's
that's why your white trash
>WE WUZ INVENTORS AND SHIT SO IM SPECIAL
>>73715545
fair enough
I should have been more clear meant violent offenses or server
>>73715405
They broke the law the minute they crossed the border.
I spent 14 years gettingy citizenship, why should a spic cross the border and get "easy path to citizenship"?
>>73716421
>OH NO, THE CORPORATIONS ARE TAKING MY MONEY I AM WILLINGLY GIVING TO THEM
Don't buy from corporations that engage in behavior you consider unethical. This is a bit different from the status quo now, where you must give money to a government otherwise they will murder you.
>>73716524
Why should babies get instant citizenship?
>>73716476
this is why libertarianism is exactly the same as marxism in it's essence. identity is nothing, nation is nothing, only productivity matters.
juden raus.
>Made a shirt of him.
Also, if Bernie drops out we could convince them that he's the best canidate then we have the opurtunity to split primarily dem states between yellow and blue. There's no way to convert Bernouts to Trump in a heartbeat, but Johnson will bridge that gap.
>>73716174
true that's dumb and should be stopped but we should not punish all immigrants for the fault of a few and government polices
if they have ideas want to invest and be productive member0, provide services of the economy and are why should they be meant to leave
>>73716476
Fucking libertarians are no better and just as destructive as SJWs, kill yourself you degenerate faggot.
>>73716599
Wrong person?
I'm against anchor babies tho.
>>73716405
>i can leave
hey retard, did you forget that you'll be contained within a bigger one? now controlled by socialist loving shitskins?
>there is nothing magic about it
there are a wide range of "make believe" ideas that are nonetheless important social measures. Unless you ignore culture exists, which includes western values like liberty, then borders are absolutely important to enforce your way of life
>then theyll just
are you stupid? are you under the assumption the federal government won't still have an effect on you? are you one of those faggoty sovereign citizen retards?
>I just don't do business with immigrants
my point is that you WONT HAVE A CHOICE. that is what the fucking border is for
if you want to see what things look will look like nationally, which includes your make believe small town government, look to south africa or brazil
you won't be immune from the conflict like you seem to believe
>>73716735
>>73716662
im not the entitle ones m8
why
does your race personally automatically make you more valuable than someone else. Also explain to me who is taking your identity in libertarian your not made to do anything
>>73716421
why don't you read up on what ideology you're denouncing before doing so
libertarians generally believe that corporations are cancerous because the government has the power to empower them
>>73714452
Get rid of the welfare state and open borders actually becomes a good idea
>>73716531
>this guy continuously assuming his government will be dissolved in his lifetime
>doesn't understand the system he lives under will only get worse over time
seriously what the fuck is wrong with you?
>>73714452
>Gary for open borders
Precisely why he doesn't have a fucking chance, and can only muddle things up without ever being a viable candidate. Seriously, BORDER CONTROL AND IMMIGRATION CONTROL ARE THE BIGGEST FUCKING ISSUES WITH VOTERS WHO AREN'T LIBERAL, AND THIS FUCKER DOESN'T CARE.
Fuck Gary for even bothering with putting his name out in this election unless he secretly wants to help Hillary. If that's the case, then fuck libertarians, I voted for them from 2000-2012 but never again if this dipshit costs Trump his proper seat at the head of the table.
>>73716531
because most people are stupid? because advertising and brainwashing exist to make people do things against there better interests?
what is your vision of a libertarian paradise? it would be EXACTLY the same as things are now except with a ruined environment, even more multiculti, even more social degeneration etc. propaganda funneled through the tv and in school™ all owned by the same people or people with the same interests.
libertarians need to be purged from /pol/ once and for all. you're just a bunch slimy big noses.
>>73716662
>>73716735
>one faggoty libertarian, likely a refugee from liberalism, is representative of the whole
you have to be a retard to believe culture isn't a thing and doesn't have consequences
>>73714452
Libertarianism works when there isn't another system built on top of it... However with Corporations and Megabanks that are currently operating unchecked, you have suedogovernments that operate by their own rules and laws and controlling resources. Controlling commodity prices, etc.
We don't exist in a vacuum and Libertarians can't seem to acknowledge this
>>73716837
Alright, I'm confused at this point. My argument is that I want as much local government as possible compared to federal government.
Weak borders are not necessarily a good thing, but a reality therefore of a weak central government. There is no considerable problem with immigration if there is no incentive offered by states to immigrate there. I can simply not do business with immigrants,not rent to them, or hire them if I really want to consider that my ethical goal.
>are you stupid? are you under the assumption the federal government won't still have an effect on you? are you one of those faggoty sovereign citizen retards?
If I do not give the government money, can easily leave, and am armed, in what sense does the federal government have power over me?
>But they'll vote in more power for themselves!
At what point is this different than what we have now? The whole point is to curb power.
>are you one of those faggoty sovereign citizen retards?
Probably
>>73716907
>does your race personally automatically make you more valuable than someone else
false proposition. no one is saying this, if you can't understand the value of cultural and societal cohesion and the threat 3rd world immigration poses i don't see why you are here and not on tumblr.
>>73716921
>libertarians generally believe that corporations are cancerous because the government has the power to empower them
And modern governments only have the power to empower because they are empowered by the most successful and ruthless corporations that formed half-way into the countries modern economic development.
Most governments are little more than corporate mercenaries.
The only way to end this corruption is to create a society that values higher concepts than economic output and material existence.
>>73716997
no it doesn't
the bigger communities just destroy the smaller communities
>you and everyone in your nation hates mcdonalds and never wants to see one, votes with your wallet, etc.
>open borders
>slowly but surely new immigrants voting with their wallets for mcdonalds
>mcdonalds now everywhere
why are you people imagining a world where culture and laws don't exist in a thread about libertarianism
and you assume Gary Johnson or anyone else will ever get rid of the welfare state
google "government inertia"
>>73716751
My point is more that it's completely fucking arbitrary and is used for political purposes.
>IT'S NOT FAIR THAT I HAD TO BE A CITIZEN
Like millions of immigrants didn't have citizenship when millions of blacks automatically became citizens to steer elections.
>>73716907
Everyone looks after their own tribe, retard. You're the kind of scumbag that'd throw millions of poor whites to the sharks because spics will work for less. Never mind that they'll also condemn your nation to an eternity of socialist rule.
Europeans are the only fucking people who don't get this anymore, whether they're libertarians putting greed above all else or progressives wallowing in self-loathing. Every other race sticks to its own. In their own nations they openly discriminate against others and practice nepotism for their own. When they immigrate, they accumulate in ghettos and speak their own languages. Should they ever achieve positions of influence they transparently engage in nepotism for their own people.
Whites(and jews) are the only fucking people masturbating to globalized, multicultural, equilibrium societies. Everyone else is still competing.
>>73714452
fuck this dude
>>73716907
Because whites (and to lesser extent east asians) are the only races worth a shit
If you wipe them out you wipe out all potential for humanity
>>73717091
Then simply... don't do business with people, and don't eat the propaganda. The only real difference between this and now is that corporations do not have the right to your person as the government does. You are an adult, do your own research and make your own conclusions.
My version of a libertarian paradise is one where I can fuck off without the government trying to burn down my house or predator drone me for not giving it 1/3 of my income to spend on predator drones and welfare.
>>73717592
dude i give up. if you honestly have literally zero social/cultural conscience you are either autistic or underage or both.
>My version of a libertarian paradise is one where I can fuck off without the government trying to burn down my house or predator drone me for not giving it 1/3 of my income to spend on predator drones and welfare.
literally muh shekels.
reminder that all libertarians are just ancap shills and most of them do it for free
>>73714452
Trump helped me grow out of my libertarian phase, and this is proof positive Gay Johnson is another kike puppet.
>>73716712
i have no problem with a small amount of illegals. It's just come to a tipping point and they are a financial burden. I've waited in line for food stamps, I've seen the thousands of Mexicans in those offices. They go into the back offices with a translator and their kids and come out with medical and food stamp cards. I can go into more detail of you want.
>>73717315
if you have a citizenry that votes, or even a community that organizes itself...at some point there is the ability to exclude others
our states cannot do this, only the federal government can, hence when protecting the national border is necessary
you can advocate for your smaller government system, but until it's there, not being able to exclude only makes it less likely
your argument doesn't belong in this conversation essentially, and I would agree with it.
the problem with your attitude that you'll just not do business with them assumes that they won't affect you in another way. Assuming you aren't actually forced to do business with them, as you are legally compelled to now, they'll still vote and affect you at the state and federal level, if not even at your ideal local level. South american immigrants tend to vote for welfare, and don't fully integrate into our culture for at least 40 years, if ever.
>if I do not give the government money etc.
>how does the federal government have power over me
assuming you're talking about an ideal world and not crazy, then it comes down to libertarianism vs. anarchy. This argument comes down to whether or not you think your anarchy society would be able to withstand foreign nations trying to conquer, or otherwise invade, defeat, or dilute it. If not, then you're a libertarian. As a libertarian, you necessarily believe the government needs to be big enough to defend itself. Your small local government would not be able to do this, hence why a federal government would have power over you.
>how is this different from now
make no mistake, just because it's bad now doesn't mean it can't get worse. your point to curbing power is not an ideal most people share. If you're operating in today's world, instead of a world where libertarianism is implemented, than it's not possible because immigrants will just vote to oppress you more.
>>73717347
>but the egg came before the chicken!!!!
at the end of the day people voted for it. If you assume people are base retards who have no ability to affect policy at the mercy of corporations, then what system could you transition to that would be immune from such a thing. Looking forward to your blatant projection on this
>The only way to end this corruption is to create a society that values higher concepts than economic output and material existence.
hence why libertarians advocate a return to civic culture and getting people to inform themselves , and removing the ability of the government to act upon these corruptions
Your little thesis also ignores how we got here. It started with progressives making irrational, emotional arguments for regulations and progressed from there.
>>73717847
>Social/cultural conscience
What is this? How are you not as bad as the left telling me I need to give ground to others, and pay for their standard of living?
What happens when the government changes hands, a government that has become more authoritarian?
If you ask me, the right is only slightly better than the left, and that's because they have principles that rarely waiver.
In my view, you should have personal responsibility as an utmost priority and if you want to
>save muh race
>muh culture
>muh nationa ;_;7
You should instead have a strong family, present good values, and engage in logical sustainable business.
>>73717928
A little bit.
>>73718342
Eh, the argument here is whether or not I would vote authoritarian to protect myself from more potential tyranny.
I'll give to that, I'll probably vote Trump over Hillary because Hillary terrifies me deeply.
>the problem with your attitude that you'll just not do business with them assumes that they won't affect you in another way. Assuming you aren't actually forced to do business with them, as you are legally compelled to now, they'll still vote and affect you at the state and federal level, if not even at your ideal local level. South american immigrants tend to vote for welfare, and don't fully integrate into our culture for at least 40 years, if ever.
That is the whole goal, minimal social programs available, minimal forced interaction. If immigrants cannot find employment, or subsidization, they will starve or leave.
>>73714452
LELELELE
lolbertarianism is such a joke.
>>73714452
Whelp I'm definitely not voting for him in the future if that's his attitude. I'm a libertarian, but if we're going to have a federal government and taxes then borders are absolutely necessary.
Libertarians are too principled, its one thing if they support open borders in theory, but given that they are a third party today they should have some plan to gain power nationally. It just so happens that 95% of people that vote Libertarian are white so if they were somehow able to get in a position of power and legislate this it would just undermine their future as a party. Libertarians need to understand that only white people want that style government and act pragmatically.
>>73719002
Vote McAfee if you're registered. Gary Johnson really isn't a very charismatic or convincing person, either.
>>73719043
it is really the only party based on principles though, which may give moral justification for certain actions they might condone in the future.
>>73719135
I'm voting Trump this year, allowing Clinton to win is not an option.
>>73714452
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcUZrDX5P7A
>>73719135
Yeah, he is unfortunately not very good at debates or stage presence. Kinda has an odd non-committal "im not sure if i really believe this lol" thing going.
Fuck, I'd love to see McAfee eviscerate Trump and Hillary on the national debate stage.
>>73719397
agreed, neither would stand a chance
>>73716161
>As governor of N.M. he had the lowest rate of illegal immigration.
>doesnt catch any immigrants
>see guys!! almost no illegals coming in through here
>>73714452
It's the idealistic liberal in him.
Dat boi can't help it.
>>73719135
>Vote McAfee, protect from viruses.
>>73715991
>So, why not just refuse to hire Mexicans, rent to Mexicans, or service Mexicans until they leave?
>
>If the government isn't preventing you from doing so, you are fully in your rights to do so.
>>73718659
>What happens when the government changes hands, a government that has become more authoritarian?
I'm with french anon, Libertarians need to be purged.
>libertarians actually believe that BILLION MUSLIMS should be free to just move to your country overnight
>>73714452
Should've had McAfee as their candidate
>>73714452
This is why I am a nationalist-libertarian and voting for Trump. Such an ardent position would only work with neighbors equally as libertarian.
this is why I won't vote for him.
I agree with everything he says except for immigration, military, and abortion. the other things i can get over, but not this.
>>73715545
>>if they haven't broken any laws
>They broke federal law the moment they crossed the border.
BTFO, the post.
That ends THAT argument.
>>73719814
Dat new mexico cuck contamination in their water.
>>73719863
>I'm with french anon, Libertarians need to be purged.
Yeah... so what happens when the election swings to the left in 2020?
Do you really want all those authoritarian policies in place?
>>73714452
I'm convinced. I'm not a #Cruzmissile
>>73719978
>Such an ardent position would only work with neighbors equally as libertarian.
This. You would also need to get rid of welfare and gibsmedat programs for open borders to even work.
>>73715216
>implying the state isn't already controlled by the Jews
wew lad
>>73714452
INTO THE TRASH IT GOES
>>73715881
I'm not sure I totally agree with that analysis, but I do strongly agree that libertarian and Libertarian are not the same thing. A party name is a brand, and does not necessarily have anything to do with what the party IS.
Being a libertarian aligns you with a certain political philosophy that, like any, when taken to extremes is loony. That said, though, I'd prefer to live in a country that errs on the side of freedom than on the side of statism.
Being a Libertarian means you are part of a goofy political party that has no fucking clue what they are doing, and has not for over thirty years. Counting on them to suddenly figure it out this time seems ill considered.
>>73715405
Go live in Mexico ya fucking cunt
>>73719397
You guys realize McAfee is a lunatic though right? Remember when he was strung out on crack and on the run in Belize with a crack whore after his neighbor was shot and the authorities wanted to question him?
>>73720463
when every candidate on the stage fundamentally misunderstands the point of borders, a citizenry, and supply and demand then yes, the party might as well be dogshit
I'll vote for libertarians or republicans that aren't dogshit, but I'm not going to be in the party anymore
>>73720463
about as ill considered as thinking Trump has a clue what he's doing
>>73714452
>lolbertarians in charge of not being DUDEWEED tier
>>73714452
>implying that gary johnson is a libertarian
>>73720703
I do not think that, governmentally. Politically, I have come to the conclusion that he knows exactly what he is doing, I am done underestimating him as a politician. He should be taken seriously, and for those who oppose him, they need to get serious.
Trying to beat him, or anybody, with the Libertarian Party is foolish -- they are political morons, whatever you think of their stances on issues.
LOLbertarians will defend this.
>>73721064
Thanks, sideways Poland.
>>73720671
My concern was less with that than with their ignorance about how to be a political party.
They are not serious about it. They just want to be able to say, "See, how edgy I am, I'm doing something DIFFERENT and UNIQUE!"
>>73716476
It's painfully obvious that you're not white.
Go back to wherever you came from shitskin beaner.
>>73721064
>>73715376
hahah no, thats the new cato instiutute globalist jew libertardianism
Rothbard, Hoppe, and others were quite nationalist, and redpilled on race
Guy's not a libertarian then. Libertarians require borders since libertarianism is, at its most basic roots, a way of providing the maximum amount of freedom in a civilized society.
Open borders is inviting anarchy and trampling on the rights of citizens, and the fact this doofus supports that while leading the libertarian party makes all of us look bad.
>>73721268
Narrowly beat out by Hubert Horatio Humphrey in the "Politics and Having Lots of 'H's in Your Name" competition.
>>73714452
as soon as cruz cucked out of the race Dana Loesch has been peddling this fagboy on her show
bitch is so in the never trump group even if she says she isn't
>>73714731
90%+ of illegal aliens are on Welfare and public assistance programs through their anchor babies. 80%+ of legal Mexican citizens are on Welfare too.
>>73714452
I'm sure he's for open borders so long as he could stay in his armed and gated community and doesn't actually have to deal with the Mexicans flooding into his neighborhood.
>>73721064
that quote is basically jewish politics suddenly realizing it is eating its own tail
Are they stupid? Do they really think that the immigrants will vote for the Libertarian Party?
>>73721064
This is the thing that proves every closed-borders "libertarian" is talking out his ass. The problem with illegal immigration is people who come in to leech. You don't give them any way to leech off of the rest of the population, they won't come, open borders or not.
>>73716476
Lol, found the nigger.
>>73721043
how are they political morons? there are really no other third parties that get votes nationally. our country voting for the same two parties that fuck us over is a better example of political incompetence i'd say. as well as assuming Trump will have any power as President. you've really never heard of Congress or the Supreme Court? he'll get cock blocked every move he makes.
>>73721268
>>73721255
that's my problem with it though
they're just making a grab for power and saying fuck you to the people who have been supporting them
you think having a higher propensity of saying "open borders" won't lead to:
a. more cuck trash in the party
b. more support for open borders generally
not to mention I do watch a lot of material on candidates and I have yet to see an interview or otherwise where I don't hate what comes out of gary johnson's mouth
>>73721682
The problem with illegal immigration is the centralization of anti-invasive efforts due to territories not being privately owned.
If you trespass my house I'll be allowed to kick you out, then let's extend that everywhere by making everything private property.
>>73714452
>He fell for the (((Libergtarian))) movement
I think we we're all kids at one time too, anon. Eventually, we grow up.
Jewish Communism and Jewish Anarchism are two sides of the same Jewish coin.
>>73714452
Lmao @ libertarian cucks
>>73714452
>libertarians want open borders
>literally every other racial group besides whites consistently vote for statism and socialism and don't like libertarianism
KEK. This is why libertarianism fails. You think you can just do this "don't mess with me and I won't mess with you" shtick, but suddenly you find yourself in a white minority country where they don't give a shit about the principles you followed, and now they'll tax and even persecute the shit out of you.
>libertarians are open borders and don't care about national identities
lol
https://mises.org/blog/libertarian-view-nationalism-secession-and-ethnic-enclaves
>>73722282
First thing a libertarian party should do if in power is limit democracy to a minimum
>their plan to steal votes from Trump is to push an SJW liberal kike puppet
Are jews and cuckservatives even trying anymore?
>>73722403
Agreed. Going full Hoppe and physically removing communists is the only way for it to work.
>>73721656
The orosboros is the whole basis of the Jewish religion though.
open borders is a libertarian stance you idiots
ron paul is not a libertarian, he's a paleolibertarian due to his controversial closed borders stance
>>73714452
Open borders and the elimination of a welfare state would be pretty okay considering that's one of the reasons they the majority reason they come here in the first place.
>>73722282
so true
>>73714731
They already pay taxes
Fuck him I like everything but the open borders
>>73721795
>how are they political morons?
Because they demonstrably do not know how to build support. Demonstrably, because for 30+ years they have demonstrated it. They have ignored building grass-roots support, building from hhe bottom up with local and state candidates, they have never succeeded in building a coherent message to attract voters, volunteers, donors.
They just go out and poll under 2% every four years, forever.
They are not serious about winning anything.
libertarianism sounds like they take the worst part of socialism (fuck culture, race, identity and go globalism) and throw out the good part (helping your fellow people, members of your nation, even if it costs you money) and they replace it with muh $$$.
Open borders would be fine if let's say we were talking about Pre-Cuck Canada but they never talk about open borders with Canada, do they? It's always with the smelly brown horde of Mexico. The problem with Lolberterians is that they're fucking retarded or insane. You can't just switch your average Mexican for your average White person. On average, Mexicans coming illegally are much dumber, shorter, have more health issues and can't even speak our language. Why the fuck would you ever compare the two and act as if they were equals?
>>73723080
they do
modern libertarianism was pioneered by a jew that believed in the free baby market
>>73722917
Yes, under the current system: illegals pay taxes and then make back twice the amount paid in government payouts and benefiets.
>>73714731
Because most of the money made in US will be sent towards Mexico, helping enrich Mexico on the backs of various american tax payers.
>>73723080
I'm a libertarian and I want to help people, and do, whenever I can.
Remember when the two party system was Classic Liberalism vs Conservatism instead of this Corruption vs Truth bullshit?
>>73723586
nobody here remembers that because it's been almost 100 years
>>73723080
>worst part of socialism
I think you mean best parts of liberalism. Socialism only has anything to do with economics and is literally the antithesis of libertarian economics. It's a far better fit for Nationalist social policy: protectionist, counter-productive, and favored by retarded cucks who are afraid of change.
>>73723080
What if I hate the first part and like the second part?
Am I Libtarded?
>>73716907
My race makes me automatically more valuable than anyone else, because no one else but my race steps up to the plate to push culture, technology, science, and innovation in general forward, when other races stop being a pack of dumb fucking apes outside of southeast asians they can have a say.
>>73714452
Jew loving asshole, what the fuck is wrong with Libertarians today.
>>73724275
Much like marxists, libertarians are simply the conservative fifth column, traitors in right wing costumes working to push globalism.
>>73724384
It seems like every fucking day I visit /pol/ I get red-pilled again.
>>73724461
I can understand their desire for individual freedom, but they also frequently push this borderless nation shit along with freedom of immigration, which is basically just the same shit marxists are pushing with their let in everybody into western nations shit. It's disgusting and retarded and unbecoming of any man who takes any pride in his culture and heritage.
>>73716356
>all these open borders cucks are fucking leftist pieces of shit just making a grab for power with what they think are populist messages
Pretty much this.
MUH ONE WORLD! GIVE ME MUH UTOPIA!
faggots...please kys.....soon....
>>73714452
The libertarian brand of traditional/classical liberalism is a meme. They exist only to take money from morons, especially now with trump being the most anti-establishment candidate in the party's history about to be the presidential nominee. They should be trying to win favor with trump, maybe get him to pay lip service to libertarian concerns especially in areas in need of reform (he already has on several issues including Ron Paul's audit the Fed bill).
Libertarians ... The new fake right wing
Taking the place of NeoCohens
These kike cunts will not allow a true right wing to exist in this country.
>>73724614
You live in the US, your "culture and heritage" is based on a bunch of immigrants from all over the world mixing together and assimilating the best elements of their disparate cultures.
>>73724461
It's funny how Libertarians fell out of favour with me aswell, though it has nothing to do with /pol/. Speaking of other "parties", I recall being eager to be part of the Independant and moderates until realizing that the are all special-snowflake leftists who didn't wish to be called leftists. I am not talking about AIP by the way.
>>73716997
>get rid of welfare state by vote
>open borders
>well shit, turns out getting rid of welfare doesn't stop us from getting robbed
>all the niggers vote to reinstate welfare state anyway
LIBERTARIAN4LYFE
>>73725081
Yes, and up until the 70s 90% of them were european, american culture, the parts of it worthy of respect and preservation, is european. Fuck off faggot.
That does it I am not feeling the Johnson
Do you people finally realize why I've been calling libertarians traitors from the beginning?
>>73718659
>muh personal responsibility
You see, putting muh in front of it doesn't discredit anything.
The fact is that this society was built by white race and culture.
>>73716161
>As governor of N.M. he had the lowest rate of illegal immigration.
Because no one wants to move to fucking New Mexico
>>73725354
I would desu, to do business with Jesse and Walt.
>>73724275
>what the fuck is wrong with Libertarians today.
Autism, they're more interested in being intellectually consistent and fair than actually having a functional society.
>>73725081
>all over the world assimilating the best elements
European heritage and culture, mainly English culture.
>>73714452
>from his website
>Having served as Governor of a border state, Gary Johnson understands immigration. He understands that a robust flow of labor, regulated not by politics, but by the marketplace, is essential. He understands that a bigger fence will only produce taller ladders and deeper tunnels, and that the flow of illegal immigrants across the border is not a consequence of too little security, but rather a legal immigration system that simply doesn’t work. Militarizing the border, bigger fences, and other punitive measures espoused by too many politicians are all simplistic “solutions” to a problem caused by artificial quotas, bureaucratic incompetence and the shameful failure of Congress to actually put in place an immigration system that matches reality.
Governor Johnson has long advocated a simplified and secure system of work visas by which willing workers and willing employers can meet in a robust labor marketplace efficiently and economically. Aspiring immigrants would undergo a background check, pay taxes and provide proof of employment.
>Making it simpler and efficient to enter the U.S. legally will provide the greatest security possible, allowing law enforcement to focus its time and resources on the criminals and bad actors who are, in reality, a relatively small portion of those who are today entering the country illegally.
He is basically saying "if we dont make it illegal to come in, then no one is illegal".
Literally cancer. This is why I will never vote libertarian. If I wanted to live with niggers and mudslimes, I would move to their countries. Even Ron Paul was for strong borders.
>>73725081
>from all over the world
*from Europe
