How would you feel about the USA disarming police? unarmed police returning to serving community, with just a handful of armed response units when the situation requires it
Thoughts?
>>73683160
Disarm the police and you have packs of niggers with guns with no coordinated opposition anymore. stay the fuck out of our business.
>>73683259
You have a problem with the police murdering citizens, this solves that problem. What is your issue with it?
That's fucking retarded. Next.
>>73683160
Good idea. If police weren't armed to the teeth, only the ones who genuinely wanted to help the community would join. You could even have a system where there are weapons in the squad car's trunk or something and dispatch could remotely unlock it if two or more officers issue a request and it's deemed valid.
It'd get rid of these mentally ill pieces of shit who only want to plat cawadoody in real life.
I'm willing to bet 90% of cops only joined for the chance to kill people.
no, the chimps will get even more daring, we aren't a low-crime white utopia
>>73683296
>You have a problem with the police murdering citizens
No we don't
>>73683296
>You have a problem with the police murdering citizens
We absolutely don't
>>73683160
Stupid. Having first responders unarmed is UK-tier insanity..
>>73683334
Pretty much yes
Look at the average cop these days, almost totally militarized.
>>73683160
Great, I'd open up a funeral business.
>>73683334
>I bet 90% of cops only joined for a chance to kill people
there really is no respect for what we do anymore is there? God I wish Trump would save us boys in blue sooner before blm has us arrested for enforcing laws
>>73683160
Police are the people, they have an individual right to bear arms protected by the 2nd ammendment.
Here's an Australian copy of the United States bill of rights.
>>73683559
US cops are imbeciles though. It doesn't help that having a high IQ is a reason for not hiring people as cops in the US.
>>73683160
thats very retarded
police needs to be able to react spontaneous, otherwise it kinda misses the point.
>>73683678
>>73683334
>>dispatch could remotely unlock it if two or more officers issue a request and it's deemed valid.
>Officer down! Officer down! Unlock the fucking trunk!
>Sorry X5, we need your partner to confirm need. X5?
>>73683623
That's only in places like Detroit where affirmative action made the requirements almost non existent. Where I live you need a college degree to even be considered to join the state police
>>73683296
>I get all my information from Huffington Post!
That's great, bud. I'm happy for you.
>>73683559
I wouldn't worry, blacklivesmatter has just about used up every bit of sympathy the public had, not to mention patience.
Only SJW'S like them now.
>>73683706
Is he wrong?
>>73683259
>Supporting the police
>Scared of niggers
You are all that's wrong with America.
It's a great idea OP, but here there is no support for it. Cuck Conservatives like the above sissy support the police (to kill us and disarm us) and here the "antigun" liberals also support the pol.ice state 100%, in the hopes that one day they disarm us.
>>73683706
case in point. the german police is not armed very well, wich in turn led to the sylvester disaster.
>>73683160
A cop without a weapon is risking his life, cop killings and crime would increase if this were to happen. Niggers need to fear police here and they do, knowing that police wont even blink before ending their life.
>>73683160
Cops should only be armed pepperspray and tazers.
>>73683835
nonsense answer. what are you the lugenpresse?
When rapefugees come out to rape, the police get the night off, and if any policeman actually did something against the tanned shitskins, he would be fired.
Now when the right wing demonstrators come out, all the sudden hundreds of heavily armed police are available to smash them.
>>73683835
Viel Glück Hans
>>73683559
Soon
>>73683989
because the tanned germans are just there to have fun they dont know any better
#notallmuslims
#killallnazis
>>73684091
Spaß mit Ihrer Frau?
>>73683977
That only works if your population has knife turn in bins and under sharia law.
>>73683759
>to join the state police
What about metro? Sheriffs? Highway patrol? It's my impression from my visits that you can encounter quite a few different kinds of LEO in any given US place, not even getting into the DHS agencies.
>>73684210
Get a life, bin that knife.
>>73683296
I don't have a problem when they shoot niggers, I get happy actually
Cops too have a right to life and to defend themselves
SHALL
>>73683160
Only if all shitskins are exterminated.
>>73684227
Nederkanker pls go, work is required to build the wall and fortify your sinking country
>>73683977
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxSSPdMoSLQ&feature=youtu.be
Fuck off you absolute mong.
>>73683296
You seem misinformed or australian
>>73683160
Borderline retarded.
Cops are barely able to do their jobs as is, oftentimes having to arrest multiple armed niggers with only pistols and stun guns.
>>73683160
Evidently you do not live with niggers. You need a gun to respond to their calls because it usually involves violence.
>>73684227
In my area, even the local cops are required to have a four year degree, some get an exception with military experience of course. I'd imagine the cops are stupid meme is just that outside of huge, affirmative action riddled forces.
>>73683819
Youre a fucking retard.
>>73683160
>unarmed police
>>73683160
A terrible idea. This will just make them an easy target for the dindus.
>>73684227
>What about metro?
>Sheriffs?
Depends on size of population. High school minimum up to college
Highway patrol?
division of state police.
>>73684388
Sim City 2000?
>>73683160
Your an idiot who does not live with the violent criminal trash we have.
>>73683623
>he's citing the one article from some town in new England with 2000 people from over ten years ago
>>73683334
The thinking is weak with this one.
>>73684744
Transport Tycoon you illiterate.
>>73683160
madness
europe needs more guns thanks to shitskins but that wont happen so there will be all kinds of problems everywhere that has no army
then they make EU army, then they bully people and shut down anyone who opposes EU. soviet union basically
>>73683160
There wouldn't be any police officers left.
Why would anyone in their right mind unnecessarily risk their own life for shit pay? They'd all quit and find a new profession. And then we'd have complete lawlessness with nogs and spics committing crimes with impunity.
>>73684388
We'll be fine for at least 100 years. After that we're fucked, but like the song says: 'Over 100 jaar zijn jullie allemaal dood. En jij ook'..
>>73684898
I'm not illiterate, I just can't read.
>>73683819
You're a moron
>>73684851
It was upheld in court. Has that ruling been successfully disputed since then?
>>73684737
Don't you have other things to worry about?
>>73683160
That only works in countries where the public has restrictred access to guns, theres tons of paperwork and strict gun laws.
Will never work in burgerland.
>>73683296
nice shitpost
>>73683160
>>73683259
If you take pistols from police you will get a rise in knife crime.
Plenty of stats proving this for other countries.
Guns are an excellent deterrent and thats with law enforcement is really about, preventitive measures.
>>73684922
>shit pay
The average remuneration of an LAPD officer is $157,151, consisting of a base salary of $94,660 and retirement benefits equivalent to $59,491 per year (pension contributions).
Shit pay? nope.
Source: http://unionwatch.org/how-much-do-los-angeles-police-officers-make-2/
>>73683819
This guy gets it. Have you ever noticed how most people inherently distrust the gubbamint but absolutely work the shaft of any armed faction of the gubbamint?
>>73683160
Well if normal people carry guns in America wouldn't it be normal to just ask the police whether or not they want to carry?
In other countries youre putting the police on the same level as citizens, what you're suggesting is putting them on an uneven playing field.
Police tanks to disperse teenage parties, and swat teams for a ten bag, are what's fucked in America
>>73683296
No we don't. We have an issue with blacks attacking the police.
>>73685235
Do you have any idea what the cost of living in LA is?
http://www.bankrate.com/calculators/savings/moving-cost-of-living-calculator.aspx?s_kwcid=AL!1325!10!12236416628!21259049153&ef_id=Vyp%40IQAABHCSucG9%3a20160511121046%3as
>>73684652
>no deaths
>successful outcome for all involved
No surprise that czech can't into civilised society
>>73685316
>Police tanks to disperse teenage parties, and swat teams for a ten bag, are what's fucked in America
m8 what you describe is basically the American dream materialised.
>>73683160
No fucking way. It just won't work in a country with so many guns in public circulation. Police is supposed to be the public authority, enforcing laws & order. They have to be the top-dog when it comes to arms & methods of enforcement, right below army. In countries where people don't mostly have access to firearms, pistols & well trained officers are enough. American police needs firepower & training to outsmart any basic gunowner & criminals possessing firearms. They also have to apply a completely different mentality to each hostile situation, a single moment of doubt can leave a police officer dead from a gunshot. Police are living beings who have the right of self-preservation, thus they tread the very thin line between misuse of power & common sense good judgement.
>>73683559
>there really is no respect for what we do anymore is there?
I respect what cops and other emergency services do. I understand most problems with police are exaggerated by dindu and their lawyers. I am,however, concerned about the growing militarization of police.
>>73683334
>You could even have a system where there are weapons in the squad car's trunk or something and dispatch could remotely unlock it if two or more officers issue a request and it's deemed valid.
All of my nope. I bet you're one of those fags pushing smart guns too.
That would end in a lot of shot cops.
>>73683296
>You have a problem with the police murdering citizens
We have a "problem" with police protecting innocent lives. Of the few hundred people shot by police every year in the US, a mere handful weren't in the process of seeking to harm others.
Shooting violent people who are committing violent acts isn't a problem.
>>73683296
top notch shit post friend
look at all the mad americans you made
>>73683296
>You have a problem with the police murdering citizens
See that's the thing
Very few cases are actually murder
Some get prosecuted properly and some don't.
But the vast majority are good shoots that anyone with a CCW would get off Scot free if they were in the same position.
The media serves to divide the nation by covering cases that are good shoots(see Mike Brown) while ignoring bad shoots/actual murders by police (see Gardner or that guy shot in the head while climbing out of his flipped car) which leads to endless argument instead of uniting against the real issues with the police.
Namely the police unions which allow most all of the actual bad behavior seen with no repercussions.
>>73683160
American police were never disarmed.
Their paramilitarization is another matter.
>>73683160
Emus
>>73683559
You should stop standing by the "thin blue line" and thinking being a police officer is "us vs them"
Bad apples ruin the bunch but when the good apples cover for the bad apples the whole bunch is corrupted.
>>73683334
Or we actually have good standards for police and stop training them like they are an occupying army. That isn't even an exaggeration no small number of our major city's policies departments are quite literally trained by military and police forces whose doctrine is centered around that of an occupation force.
And because this is /pol/
http://www.allgov.com/news/us-and-the-world/jewish-groups-pay-to-send-us-police-to-train-in-israel?news=854302
>>73683623
>US cops are imbeciles though. It doesn't help that having a high IQ is a reason for not hiring people as cops in the US.
We kinda have to be to deal with she-boons have particularly bad days.
But there aren't a ton of options to get paid respectably and be the kind of imbecile to wade into nigger family fights.
It's just how it is.
Smart people are...well...smart enough to avoid this shit.
I can't wait to retire.
>>73683160
Unarmed police only works with an unarmed population.
And an unarmed population leads to the hegemony of any police.
>>73687131
*having
>>73683160
No but I agree on police not having superior arms to the civilian population. A police officer should only be allowed to carry what a regular person can carry. Anything that requires a special permit from the ATF or above should not be allowed to be used by the police including SBRs
Also police should not be allowed to be given military vehicles like Mraps and Humvees.
>>73683160
Seems pointless having police with no guns.
What would they even do? If you have a situation happening, you can't sit around with your thumb up your ass waiting for SOG.
>>73687232
What about keeping the rifle in the car?
>>73683559
Hard to have respect for Cops when the majority of them have a gang mentality that if you try to expose them they will on turn on you like a traitor to their gang.
>>73687347
Long as its a rifle a average civilian can own they can keep it in their car unless its a state that bans civilians from keeping their guns in their car than the cops don't get to either.
>>73687347
most police service rifles are only semi auto
>>73684250
>>73684358
>>73684601
t. bird shit-skinned, dog-haired, inbred, lizard-lipped peckerwood neanderthals
>>73683160
>Make a war against birds
>lose
>>73687232
>Trying to issue parking infringements without military hardware
come on m8, be reasonable.
Pic related, Australian police serving a search warrant on an elderly man's home.
>>73687381
>Hard to have respect for Cops when the majority of them have a gang mentality that if you try to expose them they will on turn on you like a traitor to their gang.
Man, that was deep.
>>73687470
>be born in chile
>lose
>>73685401
I'm not a police hater, but fuck the LAPD.
They've got swarms of shitty officers because of their affirmative action bullshit. Even as minorities in the city, whites still get shit on the most.
I cant wait for the unfunded liabilities of that shit department cause the city to go bankrupt.
>>73687487
You may think its a joke but its true and its sickening that people have perverted the role as a police officer but its to be expected since there will always be people who will abuse power and only want power.
Christopher Dorner is a good example of a officer that was trying to do good only to have his department turn on him and escalate things into what we got.
>>73687426
Funny enough many gun manufacturers are already doing this independently and have been for years
http://www.naturalnews.com/039477_firearms_manufacturers_Police_Loophole_gun_control.html
>>73687527
Atleast we know how to fight a war
>>73687479
Friendly reminder. We have an officially unarmed populace.
Imagine if our police had to arrest a butter knife wielder while only armed with big hats and batons.
>>73685309
>FREEDOM AINT FREE
>>73683160
Can't. Works in other countries but when your country is overrun with so many niggers. Its sad to say but I would rather have a corrupt police department than be south Africa hahahah.
>>73687457
t. Yellow-eyed, boot-lipped, blue-gummed, cotton-picking, room temperature IQ nigger slave
>>73687634
None that matter.
>>73687487
He's right though anon.
Individual good cops are good cops but the thin blue line is very real and a very big deal.
Dorner went off the rail in part because of this thin blue line leading to both officers he saw doing corrupt things getting off Scot free and him being shitted on by the whole department for "going against the team".
Police are trained to think this way and won't get onto the force if they don't follow this doctrine and it needs to end.
>>73687633
I'm glad their are still arms and ammo companies that still hold their values over easy money from the government.
>>73683259
>disband police
>nullify all gun control laws
>those who respect the law start packing
>those who break the law get shot
Pretty simple really.
>>73687232
I agree, it has been my opinion for a while. Police are civilians as well, not military. If you want them to have the goods, then they need to be accessible to anybody. Carried in the same way, too.
>>73687457
>Sweden
>>73687790
>Have an ape as presidänt
>>73687614
>Christopher Dorner is a good example of a officer that was trying to do good only to have his department turn on him and escalate things into what we got.
You need a couple more decades of human experience under your belt.
Maybe some sunshine, meat protein, and exercise too.
Dorner was a nigger. And the thing with niggers is that they have a very paradoxical problem. They can't tolerate boredom, but they also can't tolerate stress.
They always walk this line of needing seeking high levels of stimulation, but it's also totally devoid of the need to exercise self control.
If you think it's much deeper than that, then...."wew lad"
>>73683296
No we have a problem with niggers. They get shot for being violent criminals and then their family comes crying on tv hoping for money.
>>73687796
We need every gun manufacturer to take this exact stance
Barrett opposes those who are illegally disarming the American public from their efficient arms and creating superior armed elitist government agencies.
Elected state officials of New York, having been sworn to protect our Constitution, have instead committed an offense against it and their citizens by stripping inalienable rights duly protected and guaranteed under the Second Amendment. By their deliberate and sinister actions, these officials now cause their state and local policing agencies to enforce these unconstitutional and illegal so called "laws."
By current law, Barrett cannot be an accomplice with any lawbreaker, therefore, cannot and will not service or sell to New York government agencies. Barrett also applies this stance to the individual elected official who, as a matter of public record, has voted for or created regulation that violates the constitutional rights of their citizens. This is an expansion of our 2002 ban against the California government due to their second amendment infringements, and shall apply to any future violators.
In the course of world history there have been officials that strip inalienable rights from the people that were given to all by our Creator. Most of these officials inevitably come to trial, some do not.
Intentionally violating constitutional rights by officials that have sworn to uphold them should have severe prison sentences.
With the clear vision of horrible events in history repeating itself, all manufacturers of firearms or related equipment remaining in partnership with such violators should have a respectable fear of being found with the guilty on their day of trial.
During this era of assault on liberty, Barrett will remain steadfast in our efforts to serve law-abiding citizens of all fifty states, and stands together with you in the struggles we will fight and win.
>>73683160
Our countries don't have an abundance of crooks with guns Oz, the USA does.
>>73683559
>no knock raids to shit all over spirit of 4th amendment
>arrest and kill people for victimless crimes
>enforce bullshit revenue laws
>refuse to arrest thieves / recover stolen property
>refuse to enforce immigration law
>won't touch dirty politicians with ten foot pole
>escalate to violence over the slightest provocation
>shoot people's pets
>look the other way when fellow officers break the law
>too many to count are bought off by mob or drug cartel
>"there really is no respect for what we do anymore is there?"
>>73688030
Then why are all our police armed like they're heading into Baghdad?
>>73688234
Because he's lying
All of the serious criminals in your nation still have guns
>>73687878
>irrelevant country
>>73687734
>suicidal white teen
lmao you worry about non-whites undermining white ppl yet you are killing yourselves off, haha!
Less work for us later when the race war comes.
>>73683160
Worked in the u.k for centuries
>>73688091
>>no knock raids to shit all over spirit of 4th amendment
>>arrest and kill people for victimless crimes
>>enforce bullshit revenue laws
>>refuse to arrest thieves / recover stolen property
>>refuse to enforce immigration law
>>won't touch dirty politicians with ten foot pole
>>escalate to violence over the slightest provocation
>>shoot people's pets
>>look the other way when fellow officers break the law
>>too many to count are bought off by mob or drug cartel
>>"there really is no respect for what we do anymore is there?"
Let's take a crack at this...
Let's choose kill people for victimless crimes.
Chicago will be easy to contrast with this.
Chicago PD has a department with multiple thousands of officers.
In 2015 they killed 9 niggers.
That's it. That's the punch line. 9.
Nice try, though.
http://heyjackass.com/category/2015-chicago-crime-murder-stats/
>>73688568
>if you look at this yellow spot on a huge blue wall the wall will be yellow.
No.
>>73687923
This. PoliSci major with psych minor, navy reserve, divorced? Dorner was a f'kd up loser with a victim complex.
>>73688695
Interesting.
So...CPD killed many more people we don't know about?
Please share.
>>73683819
/thread everybody go home
Police without guns is a suicidal decision.
>>73683160
Whole swaths of our largest cities (and some of the largest in the world) would be no-man's land as a result. It would only serve to empower nogs, and, besides, if niggers would learn to follow directions they would go about their day completely bullet-hole free.
>>73683160
The cops would get BTFO it would be absolutely hilarious
>>73683559
>be cop
>shoot dogs
Do you literally shit yourself when you see a civilian with a dog?
Why do cops go out of their way to kill family pets?
Why do you all congregate like flies when you see another cop with someone pulled over? Are cops just really stupid and attractive to shiny flashy lights?
Thanks for your service.
>>73688952
Someone has a criminal record.
>>73688790
>talking about the nation
>"let's look at one city with lots of nigger crime"
Fuck off.
>>73689091
>someone has valid questions
Fixed.
>>73689091
>Someone has a criminal record.
>He saw his pappy led away in handcuffs once for a crime he didn't commit. They lying bitch made it all up.
It'd be better to dock their pay by $200 every time they drew their gun inappropriately and $50 every time they suffered a "mysterious" badge cam failure without a good reason.
>>73689142
>>talking about the nation
>>"let's look at one city with lots of nigger crime"
>Fuck off.
Even better!
By all means. Provide some information then.
I'm thirsty for credible information.
The reason I chose a huge nigger city is because that is where cops would be most likely to be shooting people.
Turns out...even they shoot very few people.
Do you have something else to share?
>>73683160
Not possible in the US, if you remove the guns from the police in America the police have no power over the citizens, who also have guns.
Did you not even think about this before you typed it out? Or was it crafted for (you)s
>>73688790
>So...CPD killed many more people we don't know about?
>guy brings up the wealth of wrongdoing and corruption in police departments
>hey if I bring up this one very small specific thing and absolutely ignore everything else he's wrong
This is you
Only one of the 10+ issues he brought up Involved police killing people.
>>73689267
Fuck off cunt we should be giving them bounties for ever nigger they cap
>>73683559
It's ok blue bro. I still respect you.
>>73689359
>>So...CPD killed many more people we don't know about?
>>guy brings up the wealth of wrongdoing and corruption in police departments
>>hey if I bring up this one very small specific thing and absolutely ignore everything else he's wrong
>This is you
>Only one of the 10+ issues he brought up Involved police killing people.
He made some bullet points copied from reddit.
I was the only one to provide any information whatsoever.
Interesting perspective though.
I like your moxy.
>>73687823
>be American in libertarian utopia
>litter
>get shot
>>73689370
Actually shooting someone is appropriate, though. What's retarded is when they escalate a non-violent situation by pulling a gun on a jaywalker or a driver who runs a red.
Arm the law abiding citizens, disarm the police. Local sheriffs (close to the people they serve) should keep the peace in neighborhoods and be checked up on by a higher up once a month to make sure they don't get corrupt
>>73685235
That is some shit pay in L.A. cunt
>>73683259
This
>>73688952
Officer usually asks when making a home visit if the owner has a dog. If yes, "Please put them away, sir or ma'am." If no, they inspect the house.
If the owner says no but lies, "Sir or ma'am, I told you once already to put the animal away." The owner puts dog away, police officer continues search. The owner DOESN'T put dog away... **BLAM!!**
"YOU FASCIST PIG YOU SHOT MUH DOG!!"
>Moral of the story: Actions have consequences.
>>73683259
>wat is the 2nd amendment
They wouldn't last a year with castle defense and stand your ground laws.
Stop being a cuck and be prepared defend your family you pussy
>>73683394
>>73683407
>>73685358
>>73687942
Yes, we do. There are numerous cases of an officer shooting an unarmed civilian.
>>73683761
>Literally 100% of police abuse cases are false
This is why you should commit suicide.
>>73684250
And then you justify abuse, which they use to justify abusing white people. White people get abused as well. Don't be a cuck.
>>73683160
It would be hilarious, they'd get murdered by nogs even more on a daily basis.
>>73690055
>Yes, we do. There are numerous cases of an officer shooting an unarmed civilian.
Source
>>73689576
>Arm the law abiding citizens, disarm the police. Local sheriffs (close to the people they serve) should keep the peace in neighborhoods and be checked up on by a higher up once a month to make sure they don't get corrupt
For chrissake cellar dwellers need to peek outside every so often. I'm talking twice a month and calibrate yourself to objective reality.
White people enjoy police as a luxury. A useful crew of scribes to help them make their insurance claims, and keep their edgy teenagers in check occasionally. In other words, they aren't actually necessary most of the time.
Nigger areas DO need a jackboot on their fucking throats to exist somewhere on the same radar screen of what we know as civilization. But the seams are still about to burst at all times.
As it stands, police aren't in the ethnic genocide business.
So here we are.
There's really no perfect solution.
>>73684484
That's a bad example video though. They fucked up and did not have to shoot that guy.
The 21 foot rule is drastically reduced when an officer has the gun drawn and pointed. You can shoot the guy as fast as your synapses at that point. Also it's bullshit that officers can invoke the 21 foot rule when they exit their vehicle too close to the suspect and/or continue to approach the suspect in the encounter. The officer is creating their own danger by doing this.
But to be fair I don't think these guys were aware this man had a knife until they were on scene. And they never approached him, and I'm reluctant to say they had a duty to retreat at the pace the man was approaching, though I have seen a good cop do that once and it saved a scumbags life. He also put one bullet in the guy instead of magdumping.
Non lethal or less than lethal weapons are a very good option when you have a partner who's ready to use deadly force instantly in the event they fail. The guy in the video was a good candidate for long range pepper spray or a taser.
If britcucks can handle melee weapons with no deadly force fail-safe, american cops should be able to do it much easier.
>>73688952
Here's my thing with this. Cops a lot of the time (not as a rule, but still) get pissy if you have a dog. But yet they have K9 units and literally use them as a weapon of fear a lot of times. " the dog will come in and you will be bit!"
Officer shoots your dog, who was trying to defend his master? Oh well. You punch, stab or God forbid kill the officers dog that gets sent in after you? Filthy cop killer.
Police dogs definitely have their place, but like lots of things, I think they are being misused these days.
>>73689491
>He made some bullet points copied from reddit.
No he provided very real issues that exist in every major police department in the nation.
BTW Chicago PD has been outed a little bit ago for having a "black room" where they would take people off camera and torture them.
>>73690143
>>Yes, we do. There are numerous cases of an officer shooting an unarmed civilian.
There are numerous cases of police incurring great bodily injury and death from "unarmed" people.
>a fucking leaf
>>73683160
so we can become one of those middle eastern shitholes with niggers driving around shooting up the place void of consequence? no thanks.
>>73683296
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTTczSGTl74
Everybody has bad run in with Cops. I can't walk down the street at night without someone calling the cops to question me.
Guess what? I am white and despite MULTIPLE run in with cops I have managed not to get shot. You have no clue about the sheer destruction of the American Black family. Just as you are unaware of the mob attacks of blacks on whites, Asians, Jews, Homosexuals, and the elderly. You are a fucking media hyped moron. Who cries for a dead thug while ignoring the beaten innocent people of our country. Cops are killed all the time in the line of duty you gonna speak up for them or just try and disarm them?
BTW---Tell that piece of shit Mayor of London to stop using Terrorist attacks as way of manipulating American policy!! Unless you are afraid of being called a Islamaphobe....?
>>73690536
Fucking source you prick
Like a URL
>>73690492
>>He made some bullet points copied from reddit.
>No he provided very real issues that exist in every major police department in the nation.
>BTW Chicago PD has been outed a little bit ago for having a "black room" where they would take people off camera and torture them.
Red herring.
I demolished one his bullet points.
Nobody seems to be able to resurrect it.
Now you are switching topics.
Please be precise in your claim, and I'll be happy to address it....now that the "murdering innocent people" meme has been disposed of.
>>73690676
>Fucking source you prick
>Like a URL
Try youtube, you lazy fucking nigger.
cop+assaulted
Jesus christ.
>>73690759
Play around with search criteria...
https://www.odmp.org/
>>73690611
>. I can't walk down the street at night without someone calling the cops to question me.
Spotted the you-know-who.
>>73683296
>checks flag
>>73690698
>I cherry picked one small issue in one department in the entire nation so I'm right
> now that the "murdering innocent people" meme has been disposed of.
You didn't even dispose of that
You picked out one city showed they only killed 9 people.
That doesn't mean that they were all good shoots or that the Entire nation's police have all had good legitimate shoots.
It is exactly what antigunners do when citing their cherry picked stats
>>73691195
>>73690698
Also
>police black bagging people and torturing them
>red herring has nothing to do with police corruption
>>73691195
>You didn't even dispose of that
>You picked out one city showed they only killed 9 people.
>That doesn't mean that they were all good shoots or that the Entire nation's police have all had good legitimate shoots.
>It is exactly what antigunners do when citing their cherry picked stats
I destroyed it.
CPD is the most niggerrific, "trigger happy" department in the nation, and 2015 still only had fucking 9 homicides. Of niggers.
It's a department of 12,000 for god's sake.
Are you saying it's worse in the suburbs?
Make a claim and actually stick to it, you ignorant bastard.
>>73683296
We have a nigger problem, not not a police problem
>>73691252
>Also
>>police black bagging people and torturing them
>>red herring has nothing to do with police corruption
Make an individual claim.
>muh police are corrupt but i-i-i-i-i-i-i can't exactly define how or anything. It's just...ya know...it's on the news a lot and shit knowm saying???
>>73691252
>>police black bagging people and torturing them
I'm sure many of the tortured have filed very public lawsuits on the matter, right?
Or...like...none?
Well, that's odd.
>>73683296
I don't have any problem with police murdering niggers.
>>73690759
Youtube =/= statistical data
Cops are people and some people are assholes so there are asshole cops. They should be punished, not the entire police force. Guess what, cops beating down people for no reason are CRIMINALS.
>>73691678
Nobody is talking to you, Aqua fresh.
You have hot blonde cops who fumble with the stressful task of pepper spray.
>>73683589
underrated post
>>73683296
>Ctitizens
>cops only shoot dindus
What's the problem?
>>73683160
reasons an officer would use a firearm:
>imminent fear of their life
>imminent fear of someone else's life
effects of disarming police:
>inhibited ability to defend themselves
>inhibited ability to defend others
Your idea doesn't seem to be a very good one.
In fact, arming less people doesn't seem to be a good idea. We should train more people in proper marksmanship and weapon handling so that people can be safer around firearms, or even better, safely carry a firearm on their person in public.
>>73691951
>>Ctitizens
>>cops only shoot dindus
>What's the problem?
It's been like that for decades.
All of a sudden, reddit infects people into SLIPPERLY SSLOPE.
No.
The police-nigger interface has a long tradition, and it will never affect anyone else negatively.
>>73691581
Gee it's like you don't actually know what you're talking about.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-torture-scandal-casts-long-shadow-over-chicago-n409466
It took decades to bring this to light due to massive corruption in the department due to things outlined by
>>73688091
>look the other way when fellow officers break the law
>>too many to count are bought off by mob or drug cartel
>>73691375
>CPD is the most niggerrific, "trigger happy" department in the nation, and 2015 still only had fucking 9 homicides. Of niggers.
>that is the only wrongdoing cops can do
>ignoring everything else they do means they don't do it
>>73683160
our police are fine, our niggers are the problem.
>>73684242
kek this is hilarious the UK is THE most cucked nation in the history of cucked nations. Why don't you all just get it over with and kill yourselves.
>>73683160
I would open carry my handgun to deter the roving packs of minorities
>>73692138
>http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/police-torture-scandal-casts-long-shadow-over-chicago-n409466
FUCKING RETARD!
Jon Burge has NOTHING to do with Homan Square.
OH MY GOD, you are hopeless.
And by the way, about the "alleged" torture victims.
Funny how they don't make a peep about it til decades later.
Do you realize how many people personally deal with an inmate?
They somehow got past medical checks upon booking into jail. Despite all those alleged electrical burns, beatings, and suffocations.
OK!
>>73692489
>Jon Burge has NOTHING to do with Homan Square.
>OH MY GOD, you are hopeless.
>it took 40 years for a torture cases to be settled
>because recently exposed torture hasn't been settled means it didn't happen
>>73692138
No, seriously. That was a good one. My sides got a good work out.
You start off talking about the "black site" of Homan Square which is pure bullshit with no victims.
Then you google "chicago police torture" and get JOn Burge from 3 decades earlier.
Well played, noob.
I actually live here.
LOL
>>73683334
You're a fucking idiot.
>>73692612
>Funny how they don't make a peep about it til decades later.
That's false
They did try to expose this for decades
Who were they going to go to?
The police torturing them?
>>73690536
Unarmed doesn't mean not dangerous
>>73692936
Let's back it up.
First you mention the "black site" of Homan Square which is on the north side.
Since you have no idea what you are talking about, you simply googled "cpd torture" and got a completely unrelated matter, which was a south side detective.
Then you are pretending it was all part of your grand plan.
Just shut up.
It's embarrassing.
Burge was not convicted either.
>>73692936
>Who were they going to go to?
>The police torturing them?
Jesus fucking christ...I don't know...their fucking lawyer??? The one they get appointed if they are broke?
>>73683160
Not a chance.
Considering that most Americans own some sort of firearm this will put the police at a major disadvantage. The crime rate would soar.
>>73683160
>disarm police
>armed guards and off duty police private companies sky rocket.
Go ahead. Private is always better than city.
>>73683160
Totally. Let them feel how it feels to not be armed and protected and have the real police only 15 or 20 minutes away and in a shitty neighborhood.
>>73693540
>Private is always better than city.
Private isn't bound by the constitution. You can't FOIA business records. They are not required to wear a name tag. etc.
Careful there.
>>73693319
>Jesus fucking christ...I don't know...their fucking lawyer??? The one they get appointed if they are broke?
>a lawyer working for the state is going to go after the state
>it took 30+ years for clear cut torture to be exposed
>>73693113
The point being that you won't see anything until decades down the road due to that whole problem of blue protecting blue no matter how corrupt.
>>73693648
Places that have hired private security to replace police including shitty neighborhoods in Detroit have had outstanding success because these firms are not concerned with enforcement of noncriminal revenue generating enforcement
>>73693878
>a lawyer working for the state is going to go after the state
Yeah, because that's literally what public defenders are paid to do
>>73683160
I don't understand why they dont use rubber bullets? Any person will go down no matter what. Yet they wont die.
>>73694111
>Yeah, because that's literally what public defenders are paid to do
But they rarely due and often collude with the Justice system in their favor
It is even more common amongst prosecutors who work with police to fix the evidence.
>>73694726
>>73694111
As an example around 2k cases had to be overturned due to this kind of behavior being exposed in Baltimore alone
>>73695323
Just in 2015*
>>73693878
>>a lawyer working for the state is going to go after the state
You don't know any public defenders.
I'm not asking.
You obviously don't.
>>73694039
>Places that have hired private security to replace police including shitty neighborhoods in Detroit have had outstanding success because these firms are not concerned with enforcement of noncriminal revenue generating enforcement
How does one define success?
No.
The Police shouldn't carry rifles but they definetly should have handguns to react on a upcomming dangerous situation
>>73696207
There is a wealth of cases of it happening freely available
>>73696323
Drops in crime and positive reaction by the community.
It's amazing what a smaller force can do when they aren't concerned with enforcement of noncrimes
>>73691771
>aqua fresh
kek
>>73683160
Nah, we like law and order here. That only works in Bongistan because the criminals have a hard time getting guns too. If cops didn't have guns they would just be getting mowed down in the streets of places like Chicago and Detroit every single day.
>>73690055
Most of those cases involve the nigger presenting a credible threat to the officer's life, like Mike Brown. They said so many times OH OH HE HAD HIS BACK TURNED, turns out the forensic evidence proved that wrong and the real story turned out to be, he was rushing the cop.
That's 99% of these cases. The only one that seemed fucked up was the one with the tazer. The rest were absolutely justified. Blacks think they can do whatever they want, like they have no concept of consequences. If you get too aggressive with the police, they might have to use force, that's just the way it is for their safety and everyone elses in society.
So many problems would be solved by just rounding up all the blacks and shipping them to Africa.
Instead, we live in this bizarro world, where no one is allowed to talk about the real problem, and instead take ancillary triage measures to contain it.
So, we talk about things like disarming cops and civilians, raising taxes, putting in place federal education standards, writing statute after statute, pouring money into "community revitalization" projects. But none of it actually works. It merely treats the symptoms, not the disease. And so we have dozens and dozens of different solutions to problems that emanate from a single, easily-identifiable source.
>>73696659
>Drops in crime and positive reaction by the community.
FUCKING RETARD.
You know what causes drops in crime??
Crimes not being reported. Because private companies don't write reports which go to the FBI's uniform crime reporting.
Do I have to literally hold your hand while I teach about life at a pre-k level??
>>73690492
Yeah it was the homan square black site. I used to life afew blocks away from it.
>>73690055
>muh police abuse
Police kill more nigger murderers than innocents. That's a net positive on safety. Just gotta make sure the police aren't above getting jailed for acting like niggers.
>>73697297
>Yeah it was the homan square black site. I used to life afew blocks away from it.
The literal drooling retard got Homan (a non-issue) confused with Jon Burge (someone who never tortured anyone.
It's hard to get more wrong than that.
>>73693878
>>a lawyer working for the state is going to go after the state
Uh, yes exactly. The whole fucking State bureaucracy wouldn't be in on a conspiracy if there was one going back 40 years as you claim. There might some corrupt public defenders, but not all of them.
>>73695323
That's fucking Baltimore though. You are moving the goalposts you retard. You act like its some racist conspiracy, Baltimore is shit because its ran by Blacks and socialists.
>>73693113
Wtf are you talking about Homan square is on the west side by Homan and
Roosevelt.
>>73683160
Your idea is stupid, and you are stupid too.
>>73697276
You know why Chicago has drops in crime?
Prosecutors call a burglary a "theft".
Murders are "death investigations".
It's a shell game.
Life does not actually improve in nigger wastelands.
>>73693113
You don't live in Chicago. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about trying to present bullshit as fact.
>>73697709
>You don't live in Chicago. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about trying to present bullshit as fact.
Jon Burge was not convicted of any torture.
Nobody has even claimed to a victim of homan square.
You are laughably edgy.
>>73683259
I want the blacks to have free reign. Let everyone see that they're lawless savages, and then we can actually start dealing with the underlying problems with blacks, their genetics.
>>73683160
>How would you feel about the USA disarming police?
in a country where every second feral nigger has a gun? Retarded.
>unarmed police returning to serving community
How is that contradictory?
> with just a handful of armed response units when the situation requires it
They already have special/swat teams for backup. In the meantime te cop can use personal weapons to make sure he doen't get killed.
>>73697812
Stop trying to hide the fact that you are a liar and have no idea what you are talking about.
And many people have come forward from the torture at Homan square.
But like all corruption normal people are powerless to fight it.
Also dummy explain why police are always coming in and out of that building.
It isn't a police station because there is a police station two blocks east on harrison and kedzie.
Next time you lie make sure you got the facts straight.
>>73698122
>Also dummy explain why police are always coming in and out of that building.
There are other operations they might want to keep secret besides a fucking black site torture dungeon. The CPD is indeed corrupt, corrupted by criminal gangs. They could be running undercover or surveillance ops out of there that they don't want the whole department to know about, because any one of them could be informants for gangs.
>>73698320
So what your saying is a torture site is unbelievable but you belive instead that they run undercover operations out of it.
Are you stupid.
I mean I already know you are a liar. But now you are grasping at bullshit.
>>73683296
>You have a problem with the police murdering citizens
We really don't. No more than you fight emus on a daily basis.
It's a national stereotype with little basis in reality. The news and rioters blow up the issue WAY out of proportion.
>>73683160
Disarm the police ?
And then what ?
Have a bunch of pussies with rape whistles ?
Lol
If they disarm police , they disarm us and that isn't what our constitution is about .
>>73698815
There is a problem when it happens at a disproportionate rate then all other civlized countries.
American kill each other more than the next 6 combined. I may be more now.
>>73683509
Negative , they still drive Chevy and only have an AR locked in the cab here. And its arizona.
If they were militarized there would be checkpoints , MRAPS , and full auto rifles in their hands with foot patrols.
They simply drive around..collect their 35$ + an hour wage and fuck off back to debrief. In between that they deal with absolute bullshit victimless crimes and extortion tactics.
They are garbage , and if they were the , driving force for gun control..they wouldn't last a week before the citizens of america guerrilla warfare them into scared little pussy cats.
>>73683296
How the fuck can cops fight criminals if they can't shoot back.
>>73683160
County sheriffs are actually elected and are beholden more to the people through that elective process. They should have the firearms and swat. The city police should be little more than security guards with no lethal weapons.
>>73698122
>Also dummy explain why police are always coming in and out of that building.
>It isn't a police station because there is a police station two blocks east on harrison and kedzie.
Wow. Sounds super secret. Random jag-offs see them come and go.
Um..
That's quite a black site.
wew
>>73683559
SAVE YOU FROM WHAT ?
ENFORCING SPEEDING INFRACTIONS AND PUTTING PEOPLE IN CORPRATE OWNED PRIVATIZED PRISONS ??!?
FUCK YOUR FAMILY
DIE IN A FIRE.
WERE COMING FOR YOU FIRST BITCH
Watch , american civil war will go like this ,
1. Unrest , not organized , curfews , et cetera
2. Oh shit the police are actually really fucking us up, FUCK THAT
3. Guerilla warfare Ukrainian style riots , paint cans , fires , medival style fighting , some gunfights but not warscale gunfights
4. Police getting rekt - "Oh fuck our hazard pay is running out and why are we protecting the people who aren't even paying us any more , and the citizens are really fucking us up and I'm tired AF in all this gear... I have a family too , and the citizens may not stop today and are right..."
5. Police precincts are overrun and their stockpiles relinquished to the tax payers who bought that shit for you pussies
6. All out guerilla warfare , by this time the police have disbanded and the national guard has taken over
>>73699594
>>73698719
What did I lie about? You realize I'm not the same guy right? I'm saying its unbelievable torture was going on for 40 years as the OP claimed and its JUST NOW coming out. That would require the whole city bureaucracy to be in on the conspiracy. Police run secret operations all the time, especially in a city like Chicago when they're at war with rampant gangbanging, its feasible that they could be running ops they don't want the whole city to know about.
More feasible than such a wide ranging conspiracy happening over 40 years.
>>73683160
All the smart Cops would leave. Dumbfuck flunkies would be left.
Imagine Paul Blart vs. 5 niggers with guns.
>>73699137
American kill each other more than the next 6 combined.
That's the niggers effect on the national average. 90% of that disproportional murder rate is them killing each other.
>>73697547
>That's fucking Baltimore though
>an example from.one part of the nation means it isn't happening elsewhere
>Chicago
>not run by mafia and socialist
>>73699239
The same way the British cops do?
I'm pretty sure cops here in America only need a gun to extort us.
They only shoot maybe 5% or the time. Probably alot less.
>>73683559
I respect and appreciate you brother.
This is some BLM level bullshit and the only people falling for it are kids who have no idea what it would be like if you weren't around.
#Blacklivesdontmatter
>>73698930
They will never disarm us.
But seriously, we have a unique problem in America that we don't have the political will to solve the problem, either on the Left or the Right, that is a massive amount of minorities that have proven through generations to be unable to thrive in what was the easiest country in the world to make something of yourself in. They are more violent and has the disparity gets greater and greater, the haves are much easier to target and thus require greater security and so on and so on.
>>73683559
I respect what cops do because I realize we have no civilization without law and order. Lawlessness is exactly what the radical leftists want though. Gotta protect their BLM paid agitators. Now we know exactly what BLM is, nazi style brownshirts, they didn't even form organically, FB manipulated its trending newsfeed. The nazis did a similar thing, they neutered local police and let thugs run roughshod.
>>73699557
Cpd won't release what goes on in there and won't allow independent rewlview boarr to inspect it.
That's why it is a blacksite dumbass.
>>73700064
State sanctioned thugs*
>>73683160
>How would you feel about the USA disarming police?
the police are the only thing holding back a race war, so mixed. it'll speed up a return to the natural order but a lot of decent people will also have their lives destroyed.
>>73683559
My dad is a cop. I still respect you based cop. Keep up the good work and don't get yourself killed.
>>73683160
Sure emu, as long as your the first sacrifice. The most common call for officers to respond to is domestic violence. Almost every homeowner has weapons.
No-one will do that job if you send them into a fire fight every day, armed with a stick.
One of the dumber things I've heard proposed on /pol/.
>>73683160
Never give up your right to bear arms.
t. Port Arthur survivor
>>73699791
More white people are murdered by white per year than blacks.
And I'm not talking averages I'm talking totals. Regardless of population. Canada has less than 100 muders a year and they have guns and black people.
>>73700463
hard to kill someone when you're huddling for warmth.
>>73687682
Bullshit, you guys have illegal weapons on the streets.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/06/16/australian-police-10-firearms-seized-homemade/
>>73700695
Funny but it doesn't change the facts. Americans have an issue. I just really wish I knew what it was.
>>73700125
>Cpd won't release what goes on in there and won't allow independent rewlview boarr to inspect it.
>That's why it is a blacksite dumbass.
So who claimed to be tortured there?
>>73701454
brown people are the problem. if you remove the numbers for non-whites, the USA has one of the lowest murder rates in the world. if the stats are as you say they are, canada is the exception. race and crime have a strong correlation.
>>73701818
That is 100% false. If you took all the people of color out of it the US would still have the highest murder rate among civilized countries. It has nothing to do with color.
Stop clinging to fox news and the myth of of the evil black man.
>>73703489
>That is 100% false. If you took all the people of color out of it the US would still have the highest murder rate among civilized countries. It has nothing to do with color.
>Stop clinging to fox news and the myth of of the evil black man.
Are you out of your fucking mind?
Niggers alone have a murder rate which is 7x that of whites.
