Whats wrong with western education?
Why is East Asia killing us?
Western countries produce entrepreneurs, while East Asian countries produce students that can only perform well on tests. All major innovations are still American.
>>73622294
YOU BECAM DOCTA WHEN GROW UP PING LING DING
>>73622294
They aim for high scores
In the west youth is happy with mediocre score as long as they pass
>>73622294
They have lowered standards so that blacks and hispanics can take part. Things will only get worse.
>>73622294
no nigger pandering
>>73622783
American Common Core tho
>>73622294
>Whats
>>73623512
>Caring about grammar on a Jap image board
Take it easy, Raj
>>73622810
This is true, but you can escape it very easily in the U.S. by taking AP classes which separates you from the mass student body.
You do not have to slow down. People are just getting stupider? Why is this?
-Severally Burger
>>73622706
Wait until I tell your imam that you've been partaking in online discussions with the kaffir, Mohammed. The whole village will lynch you.
>>73622783
This. Spending your entire youth doing nothing but putting a 130% of all your energy into school is degenerate. Half the point of youth is to instill values and an appreciation of your heritage. The cream of the crop will always rise to the top but got' damn nigga fuckin ain't spending all yo black ass on dem educations
>>73622294
Because demographically our country is getting fucking dumber by the year. So we have to lower the test scores/standards to the level of a vegetable so Jose, Bill, and Tyrone can pass a basic math test. (Yes there are dumbass white kids as well)
>>73622294
Asians cheat
>>73622294
Low expectations and parents don't give a shit. But, hey, the government will take care of you when you're jobless after you graduate from one of those degree mills called four-year colleges with a bachelor's in Gender Studies, so who cares?
http://youtu.be/ZAspHVYG7lY
>>73622598
this, also when was the last time you saw chinese students not cheat on an exam?
>>73622294
>Why is East Asia killing us?
They dont have to house niggers and kebabs and the ones who live outside of asia usually have strict parents who keep them studying like they would in asia
That and of course them having a high iq on average
>>73623673
Feminism and women have killed education
>>73622294
Because those who fail mandatory exams become suicide statistics in east asian countries.
>>73622294
Cheating on tests is much more common in China than in the west, by magnitudes.
Female teachers treat boys like defective girls.
Parents of lower class kids don't value education.
We are getting more lower class kids.
>>73622294
School boards full of hicks and christfags in the south, liberal PC cucks sneaking in social justice nonsense in the north
Teachers who barely understand the subject they test and are slaves to state written curriculum or curriculum from somewhere else
A coddling system that doesn't punish poor performance but instead moves students along
Studying to past tests and not retain information for long term learning.
Loose scheduling (too many holidays and days off for no reason)
Shitty parents unwilling to put in time to supplement learning at home
Kids are dumb as fucking knobs because parents sit them in front of screens from birth.
>>73622598
This is bullshit.
>>73622294
Because you get what you pay for. Teachers in Korea and paid very well, I'm not sure about China or Japan.
And when is the last time you were inspired by your teacher in the U.S.? Probably never. There are some teachers that are genuinely good but for the most part none of them command respect or exhume wisdom.
Combine that with the child's mindset.
>>73622294
Dumbing down curriculum so that dumb niggers, spics and abos don't feel inferior. No idiots left behind is what's happening.
>>73622810
Even having AP classes creates problems eventually. Too many kids take them to get away from the nogs, flooding them with kids who can't handle the stress.
>>73624570
In your reptilian right wing brain...
>>73625049
meant to tag
>>73623752
>>73622294
Chinese spend 12 hours a day 7 days a week in school
Whitey would rather die than have to work that hard. So we do arts and stuff instead while they study math until it's their second language which is why they leave school as either massive cheaters or mathematical robots.
>>73622294
Because placed like China especially have a cheating culture that would blow you away. Also they only show certain school district scores that are their best over showing every school district and how they report.
Do you really think the children of Ping Ling Tiny Dong from apple factory 22244 do well on tests? Their schools are more factors than where their parents work.
>Prussian school model designed to create robot drone cogs for the machine
The perfect model for Asians, terrible for whites.
>>73625082
When schools take away honors classes the problems arise. No middle ground between the deficient and the intelligent.
Demographics of the west
>>73622294
East Asian test scores are artificial like the Chinese economy
Dispite what you see in chinese cartoons being a kid/teen in asia is shit.
>go to school early
>grind out a school day craming as much info into your head as possible
>school ends, do extra activitys for 2hours~
>go home and do homework and study or go to a secondary school if your parants can afford it, eat and shower maybe.
>repeat for 6 out of 7 days
>graduate and hopefully go to college over seas with daddys money to party and forget your living hell of a life
>come back and work for your familiy or some salary job for 70 hours a week until you die or you go bankrupt because your whore of a materialistic wife divorces you.
>>73622822
>>73622294
THIS
>>73625058
worst bait ever
>>73622294
Well western education is still doing very well.. but the political correctness creeping into it is debasing it quite a bit in some countries.
http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/jr-nyquist/fantasy-fraud-and-socialism
Pretty well written article about what's happening ofcourse with quotes from yuri bezmenov.
"deological subversion, said Bezmenov, "is a slow process.... Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least three generations of American students without being challenged or counter-balanced by the basic values of American patriotism." Ignorant and confused on basic issues, public opinion cannot help but choose socialism. "Most of the people who graduated in the 60s," noted Bezmenov, "are now occupying positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, educational system. You are stuck with them. You cannot get rid of them." And now, almost anything becomes possible"
Civilizations, noted Le Bon, are created and sustained "by a small intellectual aristocracy, never by crowds. Crowds are only powerful for destruction. Their rule is always tantamount to a barbarian phase." And so it happens that in the shift from aristocratic values to democratic values, from high culture to pop culture, we have made the transition - metaphysically and intellectually - to barbarism. What you see around you today is an advanced technological civilization that has been reduced to a state of inward barbarity, where the barbarian has taken ultimate control. "When a civilization is rotten," wrote Le Bon, "it is always the masses that bring about its downfall. "
>>73622294
our tv tells us failing and not being the best is OK and encouraged
>>73622294
The classical teaching methods made way for modern and then post-modern ones that emphasized feels. The correct feels.
>>73622294
fukin kids these days
>>73622598
But this is a shitty argument, entrepreneurs are the exception not the rule and in a healthy economy you still need competent workers
>>73622294
>Whats wrong with western education?
Diversity
ITT:le asians are robots and whites have creativity meme
they are performing better because media culture instead of encouraging actual learning they try to sugarin the pill for students to make education easier.
atleast thats what happens here, they are even impoverishing the gramatic of portuguese language to make dindus pass in tests
>>73623985
>(Yes there are dumbass white kids as well)
that's fair, but if you just isolate whites, isn't american education in the top 10 world wide?
I could be wrong
>>73624899
As someone who graduated HS last year, literally this. Except for your last point which is a pretty big projection and kind of untrue.
All you had to do to pass with C's was show up.
Most of the teachers joke about how much they want to go home
We have holidays up the ass and a huge break in summer.
Discipline is nonexistant, and I quite literally mean this. Most schools aren't even allowed to kick kids out, so the worse thing they can do is email your fucking mom (not like everyone didn't fake an email or change it a day after school started).
The teachers that do actually want to help are both completely shamed by the students and the staff and are also only able to teach tests, not actual education, because everything is based on monthly and yearly federal tests. Everything.
>>73623752
AP classes in Florida just means checking the box above honors and getting a teacher that is paid the same as the lower class ones.
The majority is utterly fucked, if you're rich you can get a good actual education though.
I mean seriously AP Calc classes in HS in Florida was still giving us math crossword puzzles.
You have to understand, I basically only showed up and did a couple worksheets, no homework, and I got straight A's and a ride to multiple state colleges. I CAN BARELY DO MATH AND I GOT AN A IN ALL THE AP MATH COURSES, WE'RE LITERALLY DOOMED.
>>73627383
AP Physics was a joke as well
>>73624899
>implying blacks aren't to blame instead of the rednecks in the south
>>73622294
>What's wrong with western education?
Nobody bothered to explain to the current generation of educators that the system was meant to churn out factory workers. They all think they're doing God's work, but all they really accomplish is prepare kids to enter last century's workforce. You look at shit like Common Core - realize that it is an attempt to get poor kids and minorities to fit into a mold that was outdated and irrelevant decades ago.
If we are going to allow our public schools to remain instruments of social manipulation, they ought to at least manipulate society to the benefit of TODAY'S business interests.
Also, helicopter parents. Sue-happy busybodies who see their children less as separate individuals, and more as extensions of their own selves. They won't intervene when the school board sets up the entire generation for a lifetime of frustration and failure, but if a single teacher makes their precious snowflake feel like xe might be a little worse than the other kids at something. The result is a big-brother-is-watching atmosphere for educators who, prevented by lawsuits from actually teaching the kids anything useful, are left only to pretend not to laugh when students in senior AP English can't read from a book without sounding out the words.
>Why is East Asia killing us?
Last I checked, the only thing East Asia was killing was themselves. You have to hand it to the outsourcers, they might be screwing over their homelands but they're giving it to the third world just as hard.
>>73622294
shit has to be dumbed down for niggers, spics and women
>>73624899
This.
I graduated with Straight A's, piss poor though. I at least was lucky enough to get in-state tuition but holy shit some of the students were coddled as fuck and now my school is forcing affirmative action with the influx of niggers into the suburbs.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/top-china-paper-warns-crisis-risk-over-debt-061204578.html
Beijing (AFP) - China must turn off the taps of credit-driven growth to avoid a financial system crisis in the face of rising bad loans and other risks, the Communist Party's official mouthpiece newspaper said on Monday, citing an unnamed "authoritative" source.
The prominent article, in question-and-answer format, started on the front of the broadsheet paper and took up the entirety of page two.
China's Communist authorities are trying to retool the economy away from the investment and export-led growth of the past to one more led by consumer demand, and reform lumbering, loss-making state-owned enterprises to make the sector more efficient.
But the transition is proving bumpy, raising fears of a hard landing, and global markets have been alarmed by slowing expansion in the world's second-largest economy.
Attempts to address the slowdown in the first quarter of this year -- when growth slid to 6.7 percent -- were largely driven by investment, the People's Daily quoted the source as saying, putting more financial pressure on some local governments.
Analysts said the comments could be a signal that Beijing is to rein in monetary stimulus efforts.
"A tree cannot grow in the air," said the source, arguing against raising debt further.
"Further leverage must not be added to push up growth, nor does it need to be," the interviewee added, warning of a possible crisis as high debts "will definitely bring about high risks".
>>73628403
"A system financial crisis could be triggered if no good controls are implemented, leading the economy to contract and even household savings to evaporate."
It is the third time in less than a year that the People's Daily has cited "an authoritative person" to discuss top-level economic policies.
Chinese news portal Sina has previously said that such an "authoritative source" in similar People's Daily articles could be a high-ranking government official, such as the head of the top economic planning agency the National Development and Reform Commission, or a respected scholar who participated in major economic policymaking.
"While the anonymity has been protected, the views expressed in these articles did have a large impact in China," Nomura economists said in a note.
The report implied that future monetary easing "may be more cautious and that the government may try to hasten the pace of reforms", they said, evidence that China's "debt-fuelled rebound in investment growth will be short-lived".
China's growth will continue to slow, the source said, as sluggish demand and overcapacity are "unlikely to turn around fundamentally in several years".
Boosts from credit expansions have declined and the government must "completely abandon the delusion" of trying to stimulate growth by loosening money supply, added the source.
Instead authorities should accelerate reforms, stop lending to "zombie companies" to reduce overcapacity, allow migrant workers to settle in cities to expand demand, and further cut taxes.
>>73625553
wat
>>73624470
>>73628441
In July of 2001, Gordon Chang predicted an inevitable meltdown of the Chinese Communist Party in his best-selling book The Coming Collapse of China. Since then, China’s economy has increased by more than eightfold, to surpass even the United States on a purchasing parity power basis. Oops?
In Chang’s defense, he could not have anticipated the colossal blunder of President Bill Clinton and a Republican Congress in paving China’s ruthlessly mercantilist way into the World Trade Organization just five months after his book was published. That mother of all unfair trade deals—a well-deserved target of both the Sanders and Trump presidential campaigns—kept China’s Great Walls of Protectionism largely intact. However, it also opened U.S. markets to a flood of illegally subsidized Chinese imports, and catalyzed the offshoring of millions of American manufacturing jobs.
Since China’s entry into the WTO in 2001, the center of the world’s manufacturing base has seismically shifted as the People’s Republic of Unfair Trade Practices has used a dizzying array of illegal export subsidies, currency manipulation, intellectual-property theft, sweatshop labor and pollution havens to seize market share from both Europe and North America. To date, more than seventy thousand American factories have closed, over twenty million Americans have been put out of work and Chinese Communist Party leaders have laughed at Gordon Chang—all the way to their Swiss, Panamanian and Caymanian bank accounts.
Just go to a private school that is at least 85% white and you'll be fine
>>73628672
China’s mercantilist WTO windfall notwithstanding, there are nonetheless growing signs that the collapse of China as Gordon Chang once predicted, and David Shambaugh is now intimating, may soon be at hand. As Exhibit A of the signs of China’s troubles I offer, in the remainder of this missive, an email correspondence directly from the Chinese mainland. It’s from an American citizen living and working with his Chinese wife and son in the PRC.
I will let you decide whether the views of this observer (name withheld to keep him out of a Chinese prison or shallow grave) is an accurate one or overly pessimistic. If it’s the former, it could well be the harbinger of Gordon’s Chang’s crystal-ball revenge.
“From what I can see, and my Chinese wife can see, China will probably soon implode. Just what the catalyst will be is uncertain. Just before that time, or as a result of that implosion, the [Communist Party] will probably try to get the population to focus outside the country, probably through conflicts in the South China Sea or Taiwan.
For more than two decades, I have been telling people that the first thing China would do before trying to take Taiwan would be to take the Spratly Islands. If the world simply ignored that, then Taiwan would be next.
Hong Kong is a bitter, poison pill left by Britain for China. There will be no peaceful resolution of that problem.
The biggest problems in China right now are poisoned food, water, and air. Nobody trusts anybody, which is the reason why there is huge capital flight out of the country.
>>73628702
China has a national debt in excess of $28 trillion. But anybody knowing anything about Chinese accounting practices knows that number is probably just a very conservative number. Add some of the data and stuff Caixin [an online newspaper] is telling us about in terms of city and provincial accounting practices, and the numbers are horrible.
China wants its currency to become an international currency, but nobody knows its value. The only effective taxation going on here in China is [protectionist] for imports. The taxation system of businesses and income tax is completely broken and non-functional. There is no transparency in the financial system here. That is quite different from that of the Euro or the dollar. The fact is, the government is printing money like crazy here.
People are buying houses around here, but nobody is living in them. They don't trust potential renters. Homes are unaffordable for most people unless they use corruption to get the money needed. People have been investing in houses only because that is the only relatively secure form of asset management. Yet home purchases are at best leases since the government can come in at any time and requisition the land for other purposes.
Construction quality of housing here is horrible. If [province name withheld] had a big quake, the dead would be in the millions. China would almost immediately collapse.
The education system wherein I work is horrible. People in the West look at high math and science scores, but they don't realize that most of the students, like my son, cannot apply what they learn to similar math or science problems.
Students are completely unable and unwilling to ask questions. Professors and instructors don't have offices, let alone office hours, so questions on content the students don't understand are never answered. Of course, if a student fails a course, the teacher loses face, so every student passes.
>>73628751
If the university has a graduation rate at the end of four years of less than 97%, the university president loses face. Add on top of that the fact that around 2000, there were about 1 million college graduates. Compared to now, with over 7 million graduates, one has to ask: Where did they get all the qualified teachers?
My wife teaches in a public elementary school. The CPC is putting pressure on everybody to conform. Fun, considering the fact that the school would collapse overnight if its corruption were rooted out.
Real inflation in China is considerably higher than what the government figures reveal. For example, my wife reports that nearly all the food here in this Tier 2 city has doubled in price over the past three years.
While food prices typically go up about two weeks before Chinese New Year, they also normally go back down to pre-holiday prices. This year, food prices went up about 20% and have not gone back down.
My wife reports that middlemen in the food chain are mostly responsible for the food price increases. The farmers have not increased their prices because many prices are set by local government. However, because the middlemen have increased prices, demand for certain types of fresh foods has gone down. That means that while people in the cities are not buying because of increased food prices, the farmers have food rotting, unable to sell it.
>>73628787
I went to a farm not too long ago. What struck me was that in the apple orchards, as well as in the surrounding fields, even though the food was at that time being harvested, there were no bugs. I never saw that problem in the States, since there are mandated pesticide non-application times before harvest.
In most American markets, there will still be some food sold with insect marks on it. Most Americans don't realize what that really means. It means the pesticides are nearly, if not completely, gone from that food [because, unlike in China, they can’t be used during harvest time].
I have about 300 papers from my composition students about their lives to grade, many of which confirm some of the things I said above.
Have a great day.”
Have a great day indeed!
>>73622294
East Asian culture promotes intelligence as an important part of an individuals integrity.
Western culture is now dominated by Niggers who popularised vanity, low intelligence and violence. So now its "cool" to do shit at school
>>73628686
People don't have money to afford that here, you sheltered fuck.
Just hit the books every day if you can. School should be easy then. Also, I was homeschooled my first two years of high school so there's also that as an alternative. Instantly when back to public school, I realized how degenerate it was while my homeschool education was actually biased and taught me MUCH more about facts than opinionated shit you learn in public
>>73622294
Because everyone gets a gold star for trying and nobody ever fails, and teachers no longer correct grammar and spelling and nobody gets yelled at- it might hurt their precious fucking self-esteem.
>>73628686
Besides, private schools for the most part if not Christian, are Jewish or Cultural Marxist bastions just like nigger-infested public schools you get in both the cities and suburbs alike.
>>73628881
East Asian culture promotes cheating on every level.
http://www.theatlantic.com/education/archive/2016/03/how-sophisticated-test-scams-from-china-are-making-their-way-into-the-us/474474/
>2016
>not going to private school
fucking faggots in this thread
>>73622294
Because this.
>>73622706
Kek
>>73629608
It's a scam run by the Jews, people should know better. It also cost almost millions to attend on a 4 year basis alone.
Honestly, people should privately create their own education for themselves, being fed shit by either Jews or PC libtards is why Western education shouldn't be this behind but actually is.
One could argue Catholic Schools are another alternative, but they too, suffer from religious cuckery, just fund your own education at a young age yourself if you're truly redpilled at a young age.
>>73627383
Dude I Suck at math. My 4th grade teacher left me behind and in high school my geomatry teacher through a bitch fit because no one knew the problem he presented. After that I was like fuck got my math credits fuck this.
>>73629898
After the pope went licking sandniggers feet catholicism was dead to me. Never have been catholic, have thought about it, but after that fuck it.
>>73622294
They cheat and play with their stats, dumbass.
>>73622294
The idea of "no child left behind" rather than investing in those who want it and are actually capable of learning.
We don't need retards and niggers in school with the humans.
>>73630154
>Mad because Ling the ching beat him in mathletes.
>>73629898
I went to a Catholic, Jesuit high school because public high school in massachusetts (#1 last i checked) still sucks
then a full ride scholarship to a top 20 private university, it was $60,000 but it was all paid for.
>millions
nice education xD!
>people should privately create their own education
you do realize that this is what anyone intelligent at university does, right?
>>73629898
More on that...
Put a heavy emphasis on math and science. These are the resources you'll not find to be indoctrinated by Jewish public school boards and Jewish hedge-funded private schools alike. Proceed with ease.
For English, substitute "literature" with philosophy and spend 4 years on that.
For History, read textbooks that are not written by globalists, and ones that put a heavy emphasis on the advancement of the white man, as he is the only one who have advanced in society. Make Hitler and Mein Kampf essential to Junior/Senior year.
For an arts class, take up woodworking or architecture as a substitute. This will instill discipline instead of creativity, as one is in a complete state of imbalance.
To be great is to be misunderstood.
>>73630280
I'm not the one terrible at math :^)
>>73628905
Maybe you should tell your people not to have kids until they are financially prepared and are able to give their kids proper education and not leave them with debt.
I have no sympathy for people crying about debt and having no privileges. Their plight is a sign of stupid parents.
>>73630408
Fuck I laughed, I'd buy you a drink now.
>>73630317
Except I did it earlier than most newly redpilled Jewniversity students, you dumbass.
>>73630376
I wouldn't mind this, teach me math.
>>73630463
Exactly. And educate them yourselves. Fund your own education of your children, let them take online for college as it costs significantly much cheaper (make sure the school is not cucked by leftist twats) and we might be able to create a resistance to the current state of cultural marxist education.
>>73622294
As someone whose about to compete his university schooling and was always on the cusp of excelling but never quite got the dedication aspect down, its entirely cultural. My grades would have been two letter grades higher in every class if my parents sat me down as a kid and did my work with me. Not for me, mind you, but taking an active role in my education and showing me it mattered instead of pushing me into a new team sport every week.
Shit, even after I helped make my HS swim team undefeated, they still never cared about my actual school work until I brought home grades they didn't like, and even then all I'd get was a talking-to and the most slap-on-the-wrist grounding you can imagine.
>>73629898
You're dumb. Private school is not expensive. I went and my parents were a construction worker and a secretary. Secondly, almost every private K-12 is Christian, thus inherently conservative and strict.
There was also plenty of diversity. It's a myth that it's expensive and only filled with white people.
>da joos
Remove the tinfoil hat.
>>73624848
It's good for the bisness. Lot of dumb lambs to exploite
>>73627890
Mainly niggers.
Having moved from Europe to the United States to begin elementary school, I learned early on how although the USA had its benefits, the entire public infrastructure was crumbling.
My third grade classmates were 3 years behind me in mathematics and science.
Mom was appalled by how the entire public school "no child left behind" bullshit worked. Instead of being allowed to excel, I was forced to wait for others to catch up.
By 6th grade, we were having bomb threats every other week, with kids writing in the bathroom that they were going to blow up the school. This was in 2001, so I can only imagine how much worse it has gotten.
At this point I was pulled out of public school and sent to a catholic junior high school for two years before attending prep school. It wasn't that my family was religious, it was more that the alternative was having to get straight As to even get considered for scholarships.
Private school is the way to go. You get what you paid for. It is a means to an end. My step-brother's son is about to enter 9th grade, and I really suggested that he send him to private school, no matter the cost. ($13k per year now)
He said it wasn't worth it. Kek enjoy state school.
>>73622294
several reasons:
-cultural attitudes to work/the necessity of work/the perceived necessity of work
-east asian countries have mostly homogenous classrooms, you don't get the statistically proven 'drag' of underachieving minorities (of course there are underachieving whites and overachieving minorities too, but in general the grades of minorities are statistically significantly lower than whites)
-a dilution of standards to ensure that 'no child is left behind' or something to that degree, basically making it so that fucking anyone can pass with the necessary grades rather than educating and testing kids
-somewhat related an absurd curriculum (at least in the UK, where I have taught at secondary and uni levels earlier in my life)
-a bit of a cheating culture in east asia, look up the masses of students who get papers before tests/pay off markers etc.
-the value of education isn't as huge/thought to be as huge in western civilisation mostly due to the dilution of degrees since every single person has been told they should go to university if they want to be successful, and also the cultural phenomenon of non-talented/educated people becoming incredibly rich like singers/models/actors
>>73630966
Mine was $13k a year too, and well worth it. The average highschool student is easily 2 years behind even the worst private school students in math and honestly probably 4 years behind in science, reading, and writing.
An 8th grade private school kid could probably go straight to college general education courses for reading and writing and do fine.
Western education is completely fine. Students define the success of the school/education system and not the other way around.
You'll find white Americans score quite well internationally.
>>73632223
Also in case my point wasn't clear, East Asians are simply innately smarter so they score higher than whites. Although Western Europeans (and diaspora) still create better countries in almost every metric.
>>73622294
Rack of disciprine
The smartest east Asians are materialist, status-seeking idiots. The smartest white people just want a nice life.
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2012/04/20/151044647/the-pineapple-and-the-hare-can-you-answer-two-bizarre-state-exam-questions
Also political correction to not offend students
>>73630964
t. spic
I feel that if K-12 actually encouraged kids to study useful shit (STEM) or pursue trades, you'd see less retards post high-school.
