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Is it possible for an atheist to be redpilled and non cucked?
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Is it possible for an atheist to be redpilled and non cucked? I don't really think so.
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>>73615055
no
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>>73615055
I think I'm both but idk lad.
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>>73615055
>pic related
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What does non cucked mean?
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>>73615055
you need the lord to be fully saved and redpilled
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>>73616063
You must have a really steady hand to draw this small in Paint.
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>>73615055
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9hTnmZkHnTE

Fedoras BTFOd
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>>73615055
""""""""""Atheists"""""""""" are blue pilled morons to begin with, but that has nothing to do with a lack of belief in higher powers
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>>73615055
Your post makes me want to kill myself.
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How does one redpill an atheist? Atheism is the definition of redpill.
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How exactly is believing in a magical sky wizard relevant to being brainwashed into some other cult? Oh right it helps pave the way because you are used to being told how to think.
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I was an atheist for a few weeks when I was sixteen years old. I quickly saw how gay and anti-White it was, and decided to not call myself one. Now, I am a Cosmotheist

[spoiler]I still attend a Christian Church frequently, and have attended one for all my life.[/spoiler]
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>>73615775
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>>73615055
Only if you're an ex-Muslim Indian, like me.
But I don't call myself atheist, thanks to all your stupid atheist tag teams.
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Dude dont even kid this fuck is the most degenerate fagolo to date.gtfo fanfagboi
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>>73617490
You are pretty retarded if you consider God to be a magical sky wizard, just shows how wrong your conception of God really is. I'd say you are very shallow, as are atheists.
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Atheist here.

Believe in religion has nothing to do with social issues. I assume you faggots think all atheists are lgbt allies or niglivesmatter allies. Not true.

If you believe in god then you believe in magic and that's pretty fucking blue pill to me.
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me atheist

> wife and one kid
> served and i volunteer for local troops
> job
> vote far right as I can (not globalists or libertarians though)
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>>73615055
Ehhh. I'm agnostic and I'm probably more redpilled and uncucked than you are.
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>>73618192
>only one kid
You need at least three.
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>>73618153
I'm willing to bet that most BLM supporters believe in God.
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>>73617490
>relevant to being brainwashed
na senpi, when Lucifer betrayed god and fell to the earth, he controlled the earth at that point. god knew what would happen and wanted to see if people would fall into temptation and sin. you being brainwashed by Lucifer
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>>73618202
>still thinking Agnosticism is a middle-man/mutually-exclusive

You're far from redpilled until you correct your error.
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>>73618256
Why does he need 3? do you have a white kid fetish?
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>>73616312
>worshiping a coward who cried and sweated blood because he had to "die" for 3 days

Jesus is as cucked as you can get, what a faggot
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>>73615055
An atheist is by definition already cuck'd.
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>>73615055
I wish these threads would stop.

/pol/ is a Christian board and god is the final redpill.

God bless.

Psalm :144
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>>73618153
Again, when you say you imagine God being some magical dude on a cloud it only shows just how damn shallow you are. I do agree that the vast amount of Christians do indeed seem to be a bit lunatic and fanatic, and take everything that is written in the Bible literally. But the thing is that the Bible is written metaphorically. Of course Jesus didn't rise from the dead like some sort of a zombie, it's a metaphor suggesting the eternal life he is now granted with in a way that his spirit and his thoughts will never die out because it's deeds are eternal, for he followed the teachings of God.
As I said, your shallowness is showing. Give Bible a chance.
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>>73618562
Because Mehmed and Boyega are having 5+ and one or two kids is below replacement level.
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>>73615055

Yes. But Atheists and religious people are equally dumb. How can anyone be sure?
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>>73615055
>Start thread supposably asking Atheists a question
>Respond with nothing but fedora memes and bible verses

Ever time

Stop taking the bait faggots.
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>>73618610
>worshiping a coward
no need to worship Jesus, the christens are the only ones who need just your acceptance that Jesus is your lord and savior and you will be saved.
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>>73618369
nice sermon. right up there with

>only god can be good
>there is good in world
>therefore god exists
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>>73616312
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>>73618892
His country is 98% white with the majority of the population being finish (if you count the fins as whites) why would he need 3 kids in that scenario?
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>cuckstians are literally a branch of judaism
>they raped and killed our ancestor, burned our cities, razed our towns, destroyed our art and literature, oppressed our ancestors and stomped on their rights and liberty
>now
>a bunch of retarded short-sighted cucks on an anime board tip their fedora about how enlightened they are for believing in the same god as kikes
>while the pope wants to rip down all borders and let rapefugees flood our nations and take them over

Explain to me why christians in the US are all fatass gluttons who have a porn shop every other block.
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I'm atheist and I never had anal sex with a banana, am I worthy? Pic related is a disgrace, I'm not like him in the slightest. I hate gays because they spread AIDS and are incapable of breeding, not because some old book tells me to.
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>>73618369

didn't saran trick adam and eve into eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil, hence he gave them something more to life than being another animal in god's petting zoo?

Wouldn't that make him sort of like a Prometheus-esque character? Does it really make him a bad guy?
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>>73619227

Jesus said "render unto Caesar that which is Cesars"

He did not say "Steal from others under threat of violence and render unto lazy niggers"
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>>73619227
>I don't understand the Bible or Christian teachings
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>>73619278
Even supposedly "cucked" Atheists like banana man are usually more anti feminist and anti Islam than the average person, there's plenty of fat fuck abrahamists out there that agree with his other bullshit like hating Trump.
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>>73615055
I wish the 14 year olds that don't get the joke would leave /pol/ and let it go back to the way it was.
believing in any organized religion is the farthest thing from the red pill you can get.
Religion is the ultimate blue pill

>no really, you'll go to paradise when you die if you just act and do as we say for your entire life

no thanks. pic related.
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>>73619475
you understand that when Jesus says that he is directly referencing them paying taxes?
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>>73619551

>Remove weeds
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>>73615055
no
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>>73619627
>14 year olds

Projecting much?
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>>73619627
People bought the "Christian board" meme.

No wonder the rest of 4chan calls this the low IQ board.
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>>73615247
>atheist
>thinks he is an unquestionable god
>north corea people worship him like a god
communists you can't do anything right
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>>73619760
If your primary mode of communication is memes, like the majority of /pol/ christians, then its not unreasonable to assume you're 14
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>>73615055
Yes good goy, atheists are the problem. While you are busy, we'll be flooding your countries with Muslims and niggers.
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>>73619627

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>>73619452


>Mark 10:21-22Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said, “You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.” When he heard this, he was shocked and went away grieving, for he had many possessions.
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>>73619244
Because the birthrates are still shit you nigger. Finland has 1.80 births per woman. It's bellow replacement. A young nation is a healthy nation you kike.
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>>73615055
Nice, its the drunken peasants. xddd
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If religion is such a good thing, then why were the Middle Ages so cancerous and detrimental to the advancement of society?
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>>73619345
God created one specific tree with the fruit you mention, giving Adam explicit orders not To eat from it.

An order Adam passed onto his newly created partner Eve, satan, taking the form of a snake poisoned her mind into eating from it.

Said and done she defied god's trust and so did Adam, after WHich they were sent To earth To redeem their worth in god's eyes.

Should they not have eaten the fruits they would have no knowledge of evil and would live only in good with god.

This is the reason why we live on earth, To regain the trust in god, ashe trusts in us.
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>>73620051
I am a niggerican get it right you fedora fag. Unless you do your part to save your trashy race then you are a hypocrite.
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Fact: As long as the church exists it will continue to evade taxes, host one of the worlds biggest mafia, deter scientific progress, take money and preach about how you should be humble, while also preaching how you should get rid of your national identity and homogeneity.
Fact: Only dumb sheeple would support that kind of institution.
Therefore religious fags are the most blue pilled.
> Prove me wrong
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>>73619649

Way to miss the entire fucking point of that story you fedora clad moron. The Pharisees and the Herodians thought they had Jesus in a trap They thought, whatever He said, that He would be in trouble, either with the Roman authorities or with the people. They thought they were asking a financial and political question. They were wrong.

By turning the focus to the idolatrous nature of the tribute coin and the inscription which called Caesar “divine,” Christ turned it into a question about who is God, who receives worship. No longer is the question to whom you will pay taxes, but to whom you will render worship. The word “render” here means paying an obligation. The story involves paying taxes, but the point has fuck all to do with denarii, idiot.

The entire point of that story is that Caesar can have as many coins as he wants, he will never be god. The story is 100% about learning the difference between what matters in the ethereal world and the physical world.

>People who have 0 fucking knowledge on a subject
>Trying to fedorasplain that subject to anyone else
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Atheism leads to moral degeneracy

Just ask the Romans, or any other downed civilizations for that matter. We're seeing a rise in feminism and political correctness today thanks to Atheism
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>>73620462
This guy gets it
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>>73619475

You're nitpicking your bible as much as a 'moderate' mudslime does.

>Jesus, looking at him, loved him and said, “You lack one thing; go, sell what you own, and give the money to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; then come, follow me.” When he heard this, he was shocked and went away grieving, for he had many possessions.
-Mark 10:21-22
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>>73620574
Amen brother.
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>>73620574
>We're seeing a rise in feminism and political correctness today thanks to Atheism

Then why did those things start rising rapidly before Atheism?
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>>73615055
>Is it possible for an atheist to be redpilled and non cucked?
No. Atheists are mostly leftists, making them bluepilled and cucked.

For instance, commies (whether from a current or former commie regime) are mostly atheists. Instead, they believe in the teachings of some degenerate Jew, Karl Marx.

Atheists lack moral and ethical guidance that religion often provides. Atheists are more likely to commit degenerate acts like homosexuality, drug use, selfishness, indulging in material pleasures, murder because life isn't sacred to them, and so on.

They must be eradicated.
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>>73618073
You are what you are. The popularized image of an atheist being a retarded liberal faggot doesn't have to apply to you. To me, belief or disbelief in a higher power doesn't really translate to intelligence.
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>>73620730
> I need a book and a man other then my father to teach me rights from wrongs
Sounds like an excuse for shitty parenting.
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>>73620730
Amen To you aswell, brother.
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>>73620524
These little high school fedoras can't even understand the most basic biblical ex-genesis. They get all their information from Dick Dorkins and Sam "Curly Haired Kike" Harris.
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>>73620462
What you're describing is the Church of Satan which has spawned in this time and age for all of us to see, but that shouldn't be the representation of real Christianity, you will know that very well if you've read any of Jesus's teachings.
>preaching how you should get rid of your national identity and homogeneity
Again, those aren't the real Christian values.
Pročitaj ponešto o Svetosavskom nacionalizmu.
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>>73620724
Because of communist subversion and drug use, both of which brought on by a generation of people being raised by single mothers due to so many men dying in the war
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Can somebody redpill me on why religion is considered redpilled? Since when it is logical to believe in stories from an old book that say an apple is responsible for all of the world's evils? I thought the red pill was supposed to represent harsh truth, how can it possibly be true that an apple led to the existence of things such as terrorism and cancer?
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>>73615775
Tfw ik this guy who is bald and looks exactly like this sperglord
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>>73620935
> B-b-but those aren't true christians they don't represent my kind of christianity
> B-b-ut those aren't true muslims they don't represent my kind of islam
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>>73620730
I know those Christian countries in Latin America and Africa are so pure and free of degeneracy.
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>>73620920
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>>73620730
>They must be eradicated.
Remember this later when bitching about atheists always attacking Christians instead of Muslims. Faggots like you are the ones causing them to only focus one direction.
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>>73615055
Yes
T. Redpilled arheist
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Implying having your every action and thought dictated by an ancient book written by sand niggers for sand niggers is redpilled. Implying fearing the imaginary isn't the ultimate form of cuckery. Islam, Christianity, Judaism, it's all the same. It's a bunch of degenerates admitting they need to be told not to do degenerate shit otherwise they'll spiral full into degeneracy. These people have no self-control, no ambition, and no will of their own. Literal cucks for Christ.
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>>73615055
>People who CANNOT be redpilled
>Fedoras
>Cucks
>Fat people
>Manlets
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>>73620730
>murder
Factually wrong, atheists have one of the lowest murder rates

>indulging in material pleasures
>selfishness
Nothing wrong with these
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>>73621056

>Too stupid to come up with a counter-point after getting rekt

I KNOW, I'LL POST A LE EBIN MAYMAY! THAT WILL SHOW THEM HOW STUPID THEY ARE

and a *tip* for you, m'good gentle xir
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>>73620730
Those guys aren't degenerate because they're atheist, they're atheist because they're degenerate. The Bible was successful at determining that homosexuality, selfishness, drug use and etc. is bad, but do you really need a deity or a book to come to that conclusion?
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>>73621436
>Factually wrong, atheists have one of the lowest murder rates


Just ask Stalin and Mao....
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>>73621036
Budalo plitka, Bibliju u ruke i malo muć-muć glavom pa onda govori nešto.
Kol'ko shvatih neki si nacionalista, a odbijaš religiju koja je tako bitan čin u istoriji svake nacije. Slagao se ti ili ne sa religijom, na kraju krajeva moraš priznati da je ona sjajan način nacionalnog sjedinjavanja.
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>>73620574
Correlation does not imply causation you dumb nigger. We have seen a rise in atheism because it's acceptable now, and you can't be excommunicated from society due to you not believing in the same book of fairy tales.
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Lol

If you follow an organized religion, you are most definitely a blue pulled cuck.
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>>73621665
Znaš šta je još bolji način?
Kada država prestane davat novce ustanovi koja apsolutno nevrača u nikakvim razmjerima, te kada njeni "zaposlenici" uživaju povlastice višeg staleža. Glup si ko kurac ako bi rađe da ti državu kontroliraju popovi, nego pošteni ljudi jakog karaktera.
Religija je bila prihvatljiva kada ljudi nisu mogli obijasniti stvari koje se dešavaju oko njih.
Sada je religija uz politiku najkorumpiranija, te postoji zbog budala poput tebe što svo svoje znanje ne crpe iz vlastite glave nego iz knjige ili iz riječi nekog bradatog majmuna.
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>>73621760
And why is it acceptable? Isn't it because of the evident degeneration of society?
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>>73620730
*tip*
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I honestly don't understand how one can be religious and consider oneself "red-pilled"

Religion was the original blue-pill/get rich quick scheme

>Just follow these 10 rules and you'll get to go to a magical carnival in sky after you die

Sounds legit
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>>73621817
>Being a part of a community
>knitting closely with people around you in the name of god
>actively partaking against degeneracy
>blue pilled

Anon, Being chrisitian does not mean per definition you are blue-pilled.

May god watch over your life, pray there is still time To redeem yourself.
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>>73622357
>May god watch over your life, pray there is still time To redeem yourself.
Here we go with the "subtle" threats
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Since when is morality only a thing that exists if you believe in organized religion? I don't know about you, but I don't think I need a church to tell me that murder is a bad thing to do.
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>>73622613
Take it as you will, I Will not judge you.

My goal is not To convert anyone.
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>>73618073
Yeah, that's true. But even worse is failure to

POO
IN
LOO
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>>73620236
Why would god make a tree with fruit that's going to fuck up humanity forever, and on top of that, make the fruit look appealing to look at?
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>>73622815
Hush little boy, don't give a legitimate reason as to why their fairy tale is retarded or else they'll call you a bluepilled cuck.
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>>73615055
Aethiest here with pagan moral system attached. More red-pilled than a christfag could ever be. Fuck that "all equal in the eyes of god" shit. Its half the reason why the blue pill was created.
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>>73615055
>Is it possible for an atheist to be redpilled and non cucked?
Yes, I know this first-hand. Atheism is merely not believing in a god or deity, don't let fedora-tipping morons tell you otherwise. I'm an atheist and I hate jews, muslims, niggers, and KNOW that the Holocaust never happened.
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>>73615055
Not really anon. Part of being red pilled is believing in an objective good and bad. It is philosophically impossible for an objective good or bad to exist unless there is a God that makes it so. Since atheists don't believe in God they can't believe in an objective good and bad.

This leads to endless "muh social utilitarianism" where atheists pretend to have principled reasons for their "ethics" but really just rationalize their emotional reaction to situations.

At heart, all atheists are just self-interested hedonistic fucks.
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>>73622054
>Glup si ko kurac ako bi rađe da ti državu kontroliraju popovi, nego pošteni ljudi jakog karaktera.
Moje mišljenje je da crkva ne treba da bude država, već država da bude crkva. Ako si shvatio shvatio si.
>Religija je bila prihvatljiva kada ljudi nisu mogli obijasniti stvari koje se dešavaju oko njih.
Ili kada su ljudi bili svesni toga da su prepušteni na milost ili nemilost neke sile, nazvao ti to Bog ili ikako drugačije, dok danas ljudi žive u takvom komforu da nemaju razloga osećati strahopoštovanje i prema čemu, što je vrhunac egoističnosti i sujete. Da budem jasan, ni ja ne verujem u priču da je svet stvoren pre 6000 godina, smatram Hrišćane koji se još uvek drže za tu priču pomalo fanatičnim i glupim, jer ne znam zašto bi istina o tome kako je univerzum nastao bila i na koji način jeretička, štaviše ona mi je daleko fascinantnija. Sve u svemu 5 Mojsijevih knjiga ne poštujem nešto naročito, više sam za Novi Zavet i lične Isusove reči.
>Sada je religija uz politiku najkorumpiranija, te postoji zbog budala poput tebe što svo svoje znanje ne crpe iz vlastite glave nego iz knjige ili iz riječi nekog bradatog majmuna.
>Sada
Pa tu nisi u krivu, svakako jeste sada.
Ja ne bih tebe da oslovljavam na način na koji si ti mene jer na tebe besan nisam, vidim samo da očigledno nisi baš upoznat sa pravom slikom Hrišćanstva. Preporučio bih ti da pročitaš Jevanđelje po Tomi, na tebi je da li ćeš ga razumeti ili ne, ali ako imaš imalo pameti a voleo bih da verujem da imaš, zaintrigiraće te.
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>>73618884
>the Bible is written metaphorically
It is the inerrant word of the creator of all things, you damned heathen!
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>>73623434
Yep, I am aware that many '''''Christians''''' of today would react in a similiar way. It is quite sad.
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>>73623434
I think you are confusing Islam with Christianity. Muslims believe that the Koran is the literal word of God, being his final word and being unalterable. Christians believe that the Gospels and the Bible were divinely inspired, but in fact written by men, to teach the fundamental idea that Jesus is the son of God, he died for our sins, and that through him and his teachings all can reach salvation.
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I thought the majority of people on /pol/ were atheists but simply disassociated with the label due to the uttery cancer that the majority of "atheists" bring with them.

It's like if you watch an episode of My little pony and judge objectively, and come to the conclusion that you enjoyed it; you'd never admit to it because of the utter cringe-worthy cretins associated with that show.

The concept that it's highly unlikely that there is no creator, which all atheism is, is not so special.
-Theist: put for a claim.
-atheist: do not believe claim.
You can still be culturally christian, have reverence for religion, not forget that it has a deep history with western culture, and still not believe in the super natural. I'm glad people are christian where I live, otherwise there would be some hole missing in society and we'd get dominated by some other aggressive ideology like what is happening with Sweden and islam.

Christianity is a banner I can fly under because it meshes well with democracy, and other western values while other religions do not.
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>>73620524
You're missing the trees for the forest.
Things can have multiple layers of meaning.
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>>73623772
All this proves is that whites are smart enough to get away with multiple murders before they are caught if they want to.
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I'm an Atheist , but i would crusade with you guys for the glory of the white race
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>>73623700
or do /pol/acks actually believe in the trinity, heaven, ghosts, spirits, souls and such?
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>>73623772
When white people do something, they do it 50 times better than other races.

t. Atheist/Agnostic or whatever you want to call someone completely oblivious to religion.
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>>73615055
I'm an atheist. I don't believe in gods, I don't care about them, I don't give a shit. Faith is not a part of my life anymore.
When I was 15, I would be very militant about atheism, always stir shit up during religion class, fight people that disagreed with me.
But I got bored and understood that I'm not gonna change the world, so I just don't give a shit anymore.

However, I am very nationalistic. I love my country and its history. I have no doubt I'd be able to kill in the name of my country and its people. I take no shit from leftists and arabs.
Fuck them.
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I feel sad for /pol/acks who only took half the redpill.

>>73623050

strange... i thought the redpill was about the harsh truth/reality of the world. Being oblivious of one the biggest illusions seems pretty blue pilled to me.
...
Then again i did just have my dogs chew toy up my ass just yesterday...
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>>73623700
>meshes well with democracy
No it does not, and your founding fathers were clever enough to realise that.
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>>73623700
This is a good point anon. I feel like it is a common error for atheists to believe that without religion suddenly the world would be egalitarian, and all unjustice would be gone.

They justify this by the though process of, well I'm atheist and I'm a good person, and I look at this Christian (or often this act by a Christian hundreds or thousands of years ago) and see that that act was bad, while I am good. Therefore Christianity and religion are bad.

What they don't realize is that they benefited from being raised in a society that has been inculcated with christian morality for centuries and centuries. Much like a Fish doesn't realize it is swimming in water, atheists don't realize that they are raised by and large with Christian morality.

While not the sole source for the Western mindset, Christian values are an inseparable part of it.

It is no accident that the West has progressed to the point it is now, or that atheists could even exist so publicly as they do in the West as opposed to Islamic cultures.

Christianity at its core is about individuals having free will and choosing to do what is right. There is no force involved. Jesus didn't travel around smiting those who refused to believe, he simply healed the sick and taught that everyone was capable of being saved.

Contrast that with Islam, which literally means submission and it's prophet, Mohammad who was a literal warlord.

The things that people like most about western values, the stress on individualism, inherent dignity of man, freedom, and liberty came about because of it's Christian morality not despite it.

There is a reason that Immanuel Kant sought to restate Christian morality in secular terms. Christian morality is good and is what good societies are based on.
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Tbh, Scotty from DP is pretty based
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You know you're bluepilled when you think that this fruit is the reason why pain, evil, and suffering exists.

You're redpilled when you accept the harsh truth that it's human nature to be selfish and nothing can change that.
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>>73615055
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>>73615055
No, here's why
The red pill represents truth
The ultimate truth is that God exists
Therefore there is no such a thing as a red pilled atheist
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>>73624739
Bringing christianity as a part of the solution to the red-pill/alt-right/nationalists is only advocated by majority losers from USA that lives a celibate life for being losers, and opportunistically takes the stance of "non-degenerates" wanting to bring all the other beer-drinking, sexually active "degenerates" down to their level.
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>>73624927
>it's human nature to be selfish and nothing can change that.
Don't believe in free will anon?
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>>73623609
I had a discussion with /pol/ about the supernatural elements of religion which I struggle to accept.

I have a lot of respect for Christianty and I suggested that maybe heaven and hell is your final reflection on your life before you die, which for you will last eternity.

I was called a fedora wearing faggot
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>>73615055
Pagan Odinist and extremely redpilled and uncucked. It's Lana from Red Ice Radio.
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>>73624335
LOL at the christian one! Is that a reference to brother nathanel? It's identical XD
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>>73625057
No. Wisdom comes with age. The older you get the more you realize what is really important in life.

I'll give you a hint, it isn't chugging beer and banging chicks. While undoubtedly fun, it isn't what will give you a fulfilling life.
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>>73624405
>Nietzsche
>Atheist
If you've ever read any of his works you'll be quite aware that he was in no way an atheist. What he hated though was the stench religion has begotten, the smell of death and jadedness which I very much despise too. You'll notice his thoughts colerate with those of Jesus quite much.
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>>73615055
Anyone who is stating things that can not be verified as true are either stupid or trolls. Saying that a god exists or not is the same as those b8 threads that go I'm a 6'0 alphamale with a qt gf, earning 200000 $ a year.
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>>73625450
I see you've read Zarathustra too
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>>73625511
>6'0
>alphamale

Manlet detected, bet you have a <12" dick as well
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>>73622168
this

religicucks are weak
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>>73625671
You can't verify that, only your mom can :^)
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>>73624775
>Christianity at its core is about individuals having free will
Except for the 10 commandments, and except for the working on the sabbath....and a whole bunch of other gibberish....

>Contrast that with Islam
which is worse at the moment because they have no qualms about taking their text literally,
whereas western Christianity has been beaten into submission by the light of scientific progress
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Im atheist/Redpill/NONcucked Alpha Male... so yeah its possible
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>>73625376
>give you a fulfilling life.
So pandering to Jesus and the 10 commandments (like they are not self-explained in morals for every most individuals that doesn't act by default like gangbangers) is fulfilling life?

I don't even understand what you're trying to get with that.
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>>73615055

>implying being redpilled involves bending over and presenting your tender anus to the priesthood

Religion is the ultimate bluepill, submitting your ability to discern reality to a group for whom your obedience to fantasy is in their best interests.
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>>73615055
No, Religiosity and Spirituality are inherently a right wing concept
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>>73615055
Does cuckoldry just mean submitting to another's will to you? If so it's virtually impossible to be non cucked.
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>>73626158
>it's irrelevant to anything that matters
>being biologically prone to violence
>being biologically prone to low IQ
>irrelevant
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No. Being proud of your atheism is just dickish now that the 90s religious right is gone. Atheism is just a system of disrespect towards a lot of hard working, good people, and being associated with its image is only a bad thing
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I am not religious but I do believe in a creator. No I am not a cuck
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>>73626259
Dawkins himself is actually okay but he courts his retarded fanbase too closely for my liking
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>>73615055
I.
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>>73615055
I am at least partially red pilled, I am voting Trump
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>>73615055
I'm an atheist but I want to exterminate all fedora-wearing neckbeards.
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>>73626018
>Except for the 10 commandments, and except for the working on the sabbath....and a whole bunch of other gibberish.
If you don't think you have free will to chose to follow the commandments or not, why don't you take the lord's name in vain, have another god before him, and work on the Sabbath without going to church?

Just because your choice may have an effect, doesn't mean you still don't have free will to make that choice yourself.

People can chose to study what they like in University, some may chose Engineering some may chose sociology, depending on what they chose their path in life may be substantially different. The fact that different outcomes exist doesn't mean that one doesn't have free will, just that one's choice does in fact matter.
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>>73625152
I too was called a heretic for saying that I don't think that the five books of Moses/The Torah are of that much value (well, to me at least), and for not believing that the Earth was created 6000 years ago. I do not understand why knowing the truth about how the universe was formed denies in any way the existence of God? It just further proved how wrong their conception of God really is if they think it does. I think that the real truth about our conception is way more amazing than that which is written in the Book of Creation.
I very much share the same view on the concepts of heaven and hell. It saddens me when I see people who genuinely think that after you die you'll seriously either be sitting on a cloud for the vast eternity or burning in a fire. Are they even aware of how death functions?
>your brain creates you/you are your brain
>you die
>brain stops working
>no thoughts can be made anymore/you do not exist anymore/NOTHING EXISTS BECAUSE THERE IS NO BRAIN TO CREATE ANYTHING
>you can not really taste death in all reality, only the moment before death because death =/= awareness
>death doesn't exist if it can't ever be experienced
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>>73626339
He basically doesn't have a fanbase anymore. Once he started to call out muslims and feminists on their bullshit he fell out of favor. Quite sad actualy.
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>>73625629
Nosim je svaki dan uz sebe. Kunem se da je se nikada neću zasititi.
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>>73615055
>Is it possible for a Christian to be redpilled and non cucked? I don't really think so.
There I fixed it
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>>73626930
>implying the pope is a Christian
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>>73615055
I consider belief in a higher power to be intellectually dishonest and unjustifiable and yet more and more I come to appreciate the valuable cultural and social roles that Christianity plays, and the ways it has shaped our civilization.

What does that make me?

A pro-Christian atheist?
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>>73626988
>implying he isn't

Wow Serbia, wow.
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>>73626930
Let me grab your weaponry for you, M'Lord.
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>>73626600
Fuck Dawkins. Maher is a better spokesperson for Atheists than Dawkins and fuck Maher.
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>>73627185
Yes Ahmed, I'm sure all those infidels are troublesome, eh?
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>>73627093
im in the same boat, frenchiebro
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>>73627093
Maybe. Stefan Molyneux is sounding more like that type of person now.

But I will hold out hope. There is never not enough time left to turn to God anon. I hope one day you make that choice.
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>>73627126
I don't know if you've ever thought of this but, don't you think that there is a possibility that someone ISN'T what he/she says he/she is? I know, I didn't believe it at first either.
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>>73627093
Why do you suppose it plays that role?
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>>73627162
Oh, lets start the exact same guilt by association from the other side, you slack-jawed faggot christcuck.
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>>73615055
What's worse, an Atheist, or the people who make these threads?
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>>73627162
Would you like a little bit more of those tasty nigger feet ?
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>>73626134
I think he means the satisfaction in doing all that, and knowing you will get to heaven. That's probably how he gets his fulfillment.
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dont think so. i became religious from the red pill.
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>>73627532
Nothing wrong with that picture anon. Being able to humble yourself before another person and treat everyone with inherent dignity deserved from being a human is a good thing.
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It's in fact the opposite. If you're right-leaning and believe in a higher power, It means you're a useful idiot that only votes Republican because some fictional book instructed you too.

True redpill is realizing that humans are simply animals not immune to biological imperative, so we must adhere to traditional values like gender roles and moral guidelines, because we can no simply transcend our evolutionary limits.

It also means you can understand why races are inherently different given your acknowledgement of human evolution.
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>>73627581
Unrelated, what is there in heaven waiting for you? Some gospel-choir while you drift around on a cloud as payment?
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>>73627717
looks like a foot tetish to me.
Which is pretty degenerate.
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>>73627489
No reason for a potty mouth, Mr. Norway.
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>>73615775
Not an Argument
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>religiousfag can't fuck anyone but his wife
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>>73615055
the atheists that argue about your post cant be redpilled and uncucked
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>>73618884
Oh yeah based on what do u justify your beliefs? How it makes you feel?
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>>73627749
>I'm too limp-wristed to find out how to transcend my animal nature

It's entirely encoded in every single great masterwork of art, culture, literature, religion, hieroglyphs, etc. etc..

You're a dim bulb and it will take 1,000 years of hell to inject a little fire into you.
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>>73627093
>I consider belief in a higher power to be intellectually dishonest and unjustifiable
I'll never understand how someone can actually think like this. Okay, explain: what did actually make you write this? You'll probably say: "Well it came to my mind and I decided to post it." Okay, well were you the one to decide for it to come to your mind? Welp, you weren't. In all reality we humans have no real self control over us, just the illusion of self control. That means we indeed are driven by some kind of a higher force. This was just one of the vast amount of examples.
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>>73627717
C U C K
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>>73627807
Oh ok m'lady
#refugeeswelcome
#loveyournext
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>>73627093
Charles Maurras was an agnostic in the same boat, specifically focusing on the role of the Catholic Church had in French civilization.
[spoiler]Then again he eventually converted to the Catholic Church later in his life.[/spoiler]
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>>73615055
Douglas Murray tbf, except on intervention.
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>>73627985
Atheism stems from a slow-motion temper tantrum against the existence of suffering. It's just, "fuck you God, you're mean, if you were nice, everything would be blissful and perfect and there'd be no need for brutal painful struggle and darkness," because they're still cosmic toddlers.

I'm in cosmic grade school B)
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>>73620574
You know that Rome began to fall apart because that piece of shit Constantine forced his people to follow the teachings of a shitskined kike and his shitskined God/father right?

I bet you also promote white pride while worshiping you false desert god as well faggot.

Now do the world a favor and mcfucking kill yourself.
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>>73626134
>>73627581
Honestly, it isn't even about Heaven. It is more about accomplishing something and feeling like you've fulfilled a duty, or your role.

And not the feeling of "hurr durr I'm a good person because I retweeted some LGBTQRSTLNMT hashtag thing" it is more like some combination of accomplishment mixed with the feeling you get when you set things right. By setting right I mean put things in order, similar to how one might feel if a room is a mess and you put it in order.

Only the feeling isn't as ephemeral as that, it persists.

But the hope for heaven is nice too.
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>>73615055

>agnostic
>athiest

I teeter on the razors edge bros. which is more redpilled?
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>>73627470
It's basically the glue that holds a society together and provides it with rules that extend beyond simple laws.
You can't pass legislation that makes murder illegal because religion (and as a result the public conscience) forbids it, even if it were declared legal
Even though I'm not a practicing Christian I abhor murder for cultural reasons that have been influenced by religion.
Atheists everywhere have been programmed by Christianity in it's diluted cultural form even if they don't know it, they value the things Christians value, like charity or monogamy.
Yeah maybe those things are inherently valuable to humans as a species, but it was religion that gave it a name and put it to paper.
I also think the evangelical nature of Christianity helped inspire a lot of exploration in the sailing age.

>>73627985
I don't see any evidence to support a higher power, infact I see a lot of evidence of the opposite, so I don't believe there can be a God.
If there were a God I wouldn't worship him, he would have to be a callous, hateful being full of spite and malice in order for the world to be the way it is.
If God is real he is doing a terrible job and he's not worthy of worship.
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>>73625122
Free will is literally a paradoxal concept. The only way will can really be "Free" is if it doesn't adhere to the natural laws of the world i.e. purely chaotic. Somebody with truly free will would do things at absolute random, instead of operating using logic.
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>>73628038
I would wash your feet anon.
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>>73627985
While i also have a deterministic view on life if we agree that we are driven by a higher force then what happens to freewill. If our actions are not ours to make then what about heaven and hell, punishment and sin.
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>>73627761
I'm a former muslim, so my heaven is probably different from the christian one.

Muslim heaven is pretty much what you would imagine a utopia would be on earth. No fighting, no killing, no wars, and you get to live with your loved ones for the rest of your existence, for an eternity.
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>>73619858
>corea

hahahaha
Silly mexican
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>>73628242
I'm well aware of that theory and the book written about it. I'm also very aware, as you're probably not, that most serious scholars on rome take that theory with a grain of salt.
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>>73628242
>You know that Rome began to fall apart because that piece of shit Constantine forced his people to follow the teachings of a shitskined kike and his shitskined God/father right?
That doesn't explain how the Eastern Rome thrived and usurped Western Rome's status until Islam became a problem. If anything, the existence of the Byzantine Empire, and its staunch Christian tendencies, proves you're full of shit.
If anything, pagan Germanic invaders constantly chimping out (as pagans always do) on Western Rome are a more believable cause than Christianity.
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>>73628144
Exactly. I've heard the "argument" so many times: "How does God exist when there is so much suffering in the world??? :((("
Well guess what, God does what he does. For you to give a judgement uppon his actions is quite literally spitting in the face of that which has given birth to you, it is proclaiming yourself a God, it is shameful.
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>>73618884
the most depressing thing about your horrible post is that you don't know the difference between animate dead and resurrection spells
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>>73628414
I would think a tendency to chaos would indicate a lack of free will rather than the existence of free will.

Thermodynamics already says that the tendency of the universe is towards maximum entropy and minimum energy states.

Wouldn't the existence of things or systems with High levels of order and High energy states suggest free will was operating to make it so?
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>>73626481
Yeessss.
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>>73627923
Holy fuck you're retarded. This is exactly what SJW's believe

>Women are completely equal to men
>Blacks are the same as whites
>Gender dysphoria is completely natural

Humans CANNOT reject their baser instincts and still remain a stable society.
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>>73615363
>Mussolini
Debatable.

>>73615457
>Lincoln Rockwell
That's utter bullshit and you know it, one of his main points of focus was Christian Identity.
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>>73629011
There is nothing intrinsically ungodly in human nature. Only what is abused and corrupted.
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>>73628673
What is combination of overstretched military, moral decay, bread and circuses, dilution of identity of Roman citizen by opening it up to lots of foreigners, or some combination of the above?
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>>73615055
Stefan actually has a recent video about this that might be relevant to check out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsQunA6Vndg
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Pantheism is the true red pill.
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>>73615055
Agnostic, but firm believer in Christian morality. No, atheism is actually a religion, so it can't be cucked by tribalistic thinking.
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>>73629347
Not to mention Atheism is part of Judaism. The two outright substitute morality for self-imposing narcissism and congratulatory altruism. Not to mention, Judaism and Atheism BOTH reject the New Testament as morality virtues.
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>>73615055

>I WORSHIP LE EBIN ZOMBIE IN CROSS MAN
>HE TELLS ME WHO I CAN OR CAN'T HAVE SEX WITH, HOW, AND HOW OFTEN.
>LOOK AT HOW UNKEKED I AM.

THIS PICTURE IS YOUR ALPHA MALE YOU ULTIMATE KEK.

ETERNALLY BTFO.
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>>73628704
And those same Christians sacked and weakened Constantinople allowing to be completely overran by the muslim hoard, who, surprise, worship the same God as you and your most hated enemy, the Jews.

Get fucked.
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>>73629502
>muslims follow the same god as christians
Please see your own image for mfw.
A little video illustrating some of the many differences.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fopLhXVRxSA
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>>73629450
>Pope
>Alpha Male

Pick one. He's a Jew in Catholic's clothing. That is by no means alpha male, rather it is Omega, using vicious measures to prevent the Alpha Odinist from his own advancement. Do you even read Nietzsche you fucking kike loving nigger?
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>>73628982
It's doesn't suggest anything of the sort. It just means "Things are how they are, so that's why things happen the way they do". There is no further explanation needed.

The conclusion that God exists in a needless leap in logic. And the God as described in the bible is faith-based, not logic-based. God literally tells you you must trust that he exists in spite of logic.

If some shady dude came up to me and said, "Hey follow me in to this dark deserted warehouse, just have faith in me." How would that be any more ridiculous than believing in a God that relies on the same proposition?
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Leaf, turn off the prox and don't burn your ass on the way out.
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>>73629450
Without Christianity you'd be eating people in a mud but, you indio-nigger.
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>be German
>like own country, concerned about culture
>Merkel and pretty much every SJW in Germany calls you Nazi
>whatdo.cpp
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>>73629890

Yes, I agree. Religion had important influences.
Just like telling children about the boogey man and santa and the tooth fairy have.

But after some point we can as a society let go of that.
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>>73629107
True. That means that literally everything that happens in the world is directly God's fault. He has the power to do anything, and yet he programmed humans to commit sins, and then punishes them for it?

If a scientist made a robot that is susceptible to the urge to kill humans, who do you blame for the robots murders? The Robot, or the guy who programed him to murder?
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>>73630223
Have you played the sims with the AI turned off? It's shit
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>>73628565
That is quite difficult to explain, especially in English since it's obviously not my first language. I'd need to take some time to find a way to correctly fit it into words, since it is very hard to do that on topics like these.
As I said, God made us believe in the dellusion of self-control, and in no way can we get rid of that since he implemented that into our nature. He also makes the dellusion of free will but again, it's all part of his game. We cannot in any way get rid of the feeling of free will and self control although we are driven by another force.
Things like these can't be put into words that well, you just kind of understand it.
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>>73630314
So you're saying god lets people do terrible things to each other because it's less boring to him?

That just mean's God isn't sinless, which means God is a liar, and has no obligation to fulfill his promises to let people in to Heaven if they obey his word of law. He could just be conning everyone for his own personal amusement.
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>>73629669
>implying that the Bible never said anything fucked up either.
Malachi 2:3 "Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, even the dung of your solemn feasts; and one shall take you away with it."

Damn, I guess that any minute now God is going to curb stomp my balls and shiton my face.

Huh, brings a whole new meaning to shitskin now does it?

Go home Sweden, your so drunk your flag, much like your face, is red.
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>>73626259
Honestly people who have mentally retarded children in today's modern age are all fucking attention hungry cucks who want people to pat them on the back for their 30 year old potatoes.
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>>73630076
>Belief in Santa led to the conquest of entire continents.

A for effort. Whether you believe it or not, religion causes people to accomplish great things, be they good or bad. With the abolishment of religion comes the removal of borders, nationalism, healthy sexuality etc. considering most people have no reason to care. The "LE CHRISTIANITY IS HOLDING US BACK FROM FLYING CARS N SHIT" is a meme.
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>>73630223
I read a really interesting book by Larry Niven called Inferno.
In the book, an atheistic scifi writer called Carpentier accidentally commits suicide doing a stupid stunt at a party and ends up in hell.
He gets sprung by a guy called Benito who has read Dante's Inferno and treats it as a factual account of his journey through hell, and uses it as a roadmap to lead people out.
It turns out this guy is guilty of terrible sins and hopes to gain the favor of God by helping others to understand hell.
Anyway eventually Carpentier has to accept that hell is real and not some hallucination or elaborate game show, and as he travels through hell and encounters all the horrible torments as he gets deeper into the "circles", his anger at God gradually turns into acceptance that this is God's final attempt to redeem sinners.
As he reaches the 9th circle and encounters Satan, Satan asks him if he would presume to judge God by his own standards.
The whole story is really just a progression of Carpentier's anger at the injustice of hell turning into understanding and acceptance of the method.

However, I could never agree with the conclusion of the story because it is God who created everything, including the capacity for sin, he not only enables sin but in many cases makes sin an inevitability. The standards God used to judge the sinners in hell were absurdly strict and the punishments were exaggerated beyond reason.

Carpentier changes his mind and accepts God but I never could.
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>>73617490
I'm guessing you're 16 or so
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>>73631345

Religion made people withstand long travel and desperate situations. Technological improvements allowed them to conquer continents. Better weapons, better ships, better ways to carry food without spoiling.

More and more technology became the center of our survival, and religion became less necessary, but kept as a cultural thing.

All I'm telling you is that it is perfectly possible to live without a religion nowadays and not be a kek like op is implying. When you live for some reason for the purpose of kissing african immigrants feet, however, you could wonder wtf you're doing with your time.
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>>73630799
The Book of Malachi stems from Judaism so that's no surprise. The Jewish part of Bible I do not consider to be Christian, for it goes against many of Jesus's teachings (which is to be expected).
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>>73631466
Free will. It's deeper than you give meaning to.
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>>73626018
But you do have free will. It's up to you if you want to follow. The act of choosing to follow, in itself, is an act of free will.
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>>73615055
Hmmm... well I'm agnostic and I am. desu Atheism is an egotistical supposition that god does not exist with exactly as much logical and empirical evidence to support it as religious people have to support their view.
The difference for me being I respect religious peoples and religion in general for its preservationist roles in society and its followers for more often than not keeping to themselves (except for creationist cunts, ultra envagelical tards and zionists/islamists).
Meanwhile Ive met proportionally way more atheists that are super militant and preachy, annoying, degenerate and outright kids sometimes. They fail completely at disproving the unfalsifiable hypothesis that is god too.
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>>73631707
http://www.google.com/url?q=https://danielmiessler.com/blog/no-jesus-did-not-soften-the-old-testament-in-fact-he-did-the-opposite-and-heres-what-that-means/&sa=U&ved=0ahUKEwiV2I7wxdDMAhVKQiYKHVXoDGUQFggNMAE&usg=AFQjCNGQRy_YLOF-U184cXKq4tltVzGYOw
:v)
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>>73616312
>worshiping the zombie jew
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>>73631750
That doesn't change the fact that God created both the rules and the punishments.
Why give people free will if you then demand that people live by very strict and archaic rules with draconian punishments for breaking them?
Why intentionally tempt otherwise good people to sin in ways that will condemn them to horrible tortures?
You can either do exactly what God tells you to do, in which case you are a drone and you have no free will of any kind.
Or, you can break the rules and exercise your free will, in doing so condemning yourself to unspeakable tortures.
Even if we assume that hell follows Dante's model, where the torture is an attempt to redeem, not to punish, it's still an absurd method for getting people to do as you say.
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>>73629502
Yes the Fourth Crusade was a dick move, but Islam's growth is the inherent reason why the Byzantine Empire fell, not Christians.

>worship the same God
In the same sense that the Greeks and the Romans worshipped the same gods, in that the stark differences in theology make the Christian and Islamic concepts of God clearly different enough to be considered as a "different God" to anyone that isn't autistic.

>>73630799
Context-lacking quotes do not change the fact that Islam and Christianity approach God, His mercy, salvation, etc. in two wildly different ways. The best way to define this difference is that Islam teaches that people are slaves to God, whereas Christianity teaches that people are children of God (as in John 1:12).

>>73631707
>Christian Identity
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