Name one time communism has ever worked.
Protip: you can't.
>>73599087
China, is a one-party communist state, they're doing pretty well I hear...
>>73599087
Norway.
>>73599219
Only technically communism, not really.
>>73599368
b-but real communism has ever been tri.. wait wut?
I meant Marxism.
>>73599087
you won't find pure capitalism anywhere in the world either
you'll find market economies with big governments all over the globe though
>>73599219
fpbp, /thread
>>73599368
>it's only communism if it fits my agenda
>>73599087
Communism hasnt been implemented yet. And before you get triggered this is because it isnt compatible with human nature itself. Its nothing more than an unrealistic utopia.
To sum it up, the property should be in the hands of the people. Marxism-Leninism assumes that the people equal the party. So the party manages the property. Its not hard to find the flaws with this ideology.
>>73599219
communist china is a shithole filled with enviornmental pollution, corruption, tyranny, it is third world
are you fucking kidding me?
seriously
you fucking dipshit
mao himself has killed like 50 MILLION OF HIS OWN PEOPLE WHEN HE RULED
jesus fucking stupid people like you advance the meme
>>73599715
Communism is an economic system you dumb fuck
China specifically has a system which is not a socialist command economy in which amassing wealth privately is banned, which is what communism is
>>73600319
>communist china is a shithole filled with enviornmental pollution, corruption, tyranny, it is third world blah blah
That the same china who produces practically everything you own, owns a shit load of your debt and slowly buying up Africa
Keep those patriotic blinkers on chummy
>>73600693
And also I might add, slowly taking over the Pacific/south china sea and there's not a fucking thing America will do about it
>>73599087
there you go
>
>>73600638
>Communism is an economic system you dumb fuck
Maybe so,to an extent; but that doesn't negate the fact China is a very rich country, with massive manufacturing power and still a country ruled by the Communist party.
But go ahead and keep putting Communism into tidy little boxes and ignore the fact that China is Communist and doing very well indeed.
>>73599087
on paper
>>73601162
kek
>>73600693
i bet its easy to manufacture shit when you have 1 billion slaves
>>73600693
>shitty HDI
>overexplored workers
>low quality products
>only relevant because it have a huge chink population that can work with shitty working conditions making shitty products for virtually no wage
yes, such a great country, communism sure do works, just wow
>>73601457
>i bet its easy to manufacture shit when you have 1 billion slaves
It is, and the very reason the rest of the world will have a hard time competing with Chinas manufacturing power, human rights.
>>73599368
Not even technically. They just call it communism for the meme value.
Name one time communism has ever been fully realised.
Pro-tip..... You can't
>>73601559
>>low quality products
Chinas product quality is determined only by who supplies the dies and manufacturing equipment etc, high quality equipment = high quality products, low quality equipment = low quality products.
>only relevant because it have a huge chink population that can work with shitty working conditions making shitty products for virtually no wage
Doesn't change the fact China is still Communist and doing very well indeed, you don't get to the top by playing fair OR nice.
>>73600905
We'll see about that
>>73601667
Name one time all the aims of any government/movement have been fulfilled? Communism can never be realised, that's the point.
>>73599219
>be communist
>Starve
>don't do anything
>communist leader dies
>open up the markets
>do better
Cause free markets are the definition of state controlled means of production and no private ownership.
China isn't communist anymore. They've been there, tried that. They got a taste for the laissez-faire now.
>>73601631
This.
>>73601580
would you rather live in the greatest manufactory of the world or be allowed to have your own thoughts
>>73601886
>China isn't communist anymore.
You could say the same about the American Republic, but we'll just say what it says on the tin to keep things simple, we both know they're not what they purport to be, but hey...
>>73601668
It worked...
...until it didn't.
Or better to say it worked until Tito died.
>>73602017
>would you rather live in the greatest manufactory of the world or be allowed to have your own thoughts
Thoughts don't put food on the table
>>73602225
But it did work. Worked until Burgers decided they didn't like it. I was pretty young, but I have fond memories of it.
![president%20Hassan[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Pqr0488.jpg "president%20Hassan[1].jpg")
Name one case where libertarianism has worked?
>you can't
>>73601162
This is one of my favourite pictures.
>>73599219
> china
> doing pretty good
REALLY??
china is "doing pretty good"?
> chinese peasants still scrabbling for food like this is 1416
> literacy rates would be in the toilet, if peasantry had toilets
> black market is biggest market
> toxic gutter oil used as food
> bridges collapsing, meh, fuck it!
> bridges repaired with literal trash found on roadside
> slave labour keeps ching chong competitive
> all products substandard, toxic or full of lead
> cant even get authoritarian socialism correct
> dares to claim it is a communist utopia
> hookers at steep discounts
> girls with slanted twats
>>73602774
t. butthurt burger education
Communism, fascism, socialism (all the same despite what any fool would try to split hairs with you over) has killed more than any holy war ever has. And yet, it is a theocracy of its own-and beuracracy is the god.
>>73600638
Communism is not an economic system. It is the historical process by which capitalism is negated. Have you even read Marx, you dumb fuck?
>>73602774
>> doing pretty good
>REALLY??
Sure, slowly taking over Africa
Slowly taking over the South China sea/Pacific
Owns a fuck load of your debt
Produces probably 80% of the items in your home
America sits back and does "nothing"
What you gonna do, Invade? hah...
Keep buying all that Chinese produce burger; after all, Capitalism relies on cheap goods, the common-man votes with his pocket, and vote they shall...
>>73601162
Top fucking kek!
>>73602242
Except when they do.
>>73602502
Nestor Makhno sure beat the shit out of everyone who tried to invade Ukraine for a while withe no central government, the articles of confederation, etc.
>>73603164
You're forgetting Trump.
>owns debt
Who cares? What are they going to do if we dont pay? Invade us?
>>73601248
>china isnt communist, maybe so, but that doesnt negate the fact that they are rich
>but go ahead and ignore the fact that china is communist
wut
>>73599087
garden of eden
>>73599219
The Chinese Communist Party maintains the political dictatorship, yes. The economy is mostly capitalist/crony capitalist + some state-owned holdovers from the Maoist era.
If they were still hardcore Maoist like in the old days they'd look like North Korea: a 100% shit-hole instead of merely 50% like now.
>>73603485
>If they were still hardcore Maoist like in the old days they'd look like North Korea: a 100% shit-hole instead of merely 50% like now.
Yes I don't disagree with this
>The Chinese """"""Communist"""""" Party maintains the political dictatorship, yes.
The country is still ruled by the Communist party, and is still a one-party state with supreme power and for all intents and purposes, China is Communist.
As was said before China is about as Communist as America is a Republic
>>73603485
Repost of this because for some reason he deleted it.
>>73599219
The Chinese """"""Communist"""""" Party maintains the political dictatorship, yes. The economy is mostly capitalist/crony capitalist + some state-owned holdovers from the Maoist era.
If they were still hardcore Maoist like in the old days they'd look like North Korea: a 100% shit-hole instead of merely 50% like now.
>>73601162
Kek
Stalins work all undone.
>>73599087
NATSOC WORKS, WE JUST HAVENT EVER DONE IT RIGHT
LETS TRY IT AGAIN. WE CAN DO IT RIGHT THIS TIME
>>73603619
>You're forgetting Trump.
Ah yes Trump, even IF elected, you know what going to happen after his term/s are over, it's all going to go back to as it was before.
With all due respect, Trump is one man with a vision in a room of men who have been playing the game a long long long time and Trump isn't a part of the program.
>>73603962
>mfw those bastards made it work for the most part
>>73600905
Why don't you do something about it?
Oh yeah, that's right. We're funding the majority of the military placements in Europe because you guys are too cucked to defend your own fucking homeland.
Go fuck yourself, pretentious cock-teethed smelly cumstain lobsterback douchelord
Native American tribes
Any tribal village/society without fiat money or a state.
This discussion is so old...
Ask a commie if comunism has ever been tried out.then he will say: no cause there was not a no state country
Then u ask: so then what were all those bloody revolutions or dictatorships that use comunism as their ideology flag
>no those werent real comunism because there was still a state and no one was equal
Then u ask : so 10 milion died of hunger, for example, in ukraine under satilng's orders not because of comunism
And then it just stays the same
The one thing they do is to sanctify the image of comunism making it the holy peacebringer by neglecting what people have done in its name
>>73605419
Those weren't real communism. See: >>73605205 for real examples of communism.
Ask yourself this:
Do they have money?
Do they have a state (established government)?
If yes to either, then they're not communist.
>>73603811
lel I took the quotes off.
>>73603962
>WE TOTALLY WON'T GET BUTT-RAPED BY THE RUSSIANS AGAIN
>>73599087
>modern socialism = communism
name one time unregulated capitalism has worked.
>>73603962
>he thinks it didnt work.
only if us,england wouldnt be jealous cucks
>>73599087
Christian monasteries.
>>73599087
The original concept of Communism has never been successfully executed in any government because of:
1. There needs to be an excess of supplies and services in the society for it to work.
2. All communist governments have been corrupted in some way or form so that the spread isn't equal among all citizens.
3.None of the communist societies have been able to make the original concept work in the real world.
Communism in its purest form isn't a bad idea [read Looking Backwards by Edward Bellamy for an example], but it hasn't ever been executed in this manner because people tend to corrupt things with their greed, and there aren't any countries with the elements needed to make a successful communist republic.
>>73602980
>It is the historical process by which capitalism is negated.
And China doesn't participate in capitalism?
>>73599087
Russian civil war (?)
>>73599292
>>73604158
>pretentious cock-teethed smelly cumstain lobsterback douchelord
How witty of you, I can almost imagine you sat there for a good minute coming up with that trite and banal comment
