Can Mexico ever be fixed?
Building the wall and keeping out the drug trade and the illegals only stops America's side of the problem when the rule root of the issue is in Mexico itself.
Is is even possible to save our neighbors to the south from themselves?
drug problems is a global issue, not only from Mexico. Even Japan or Italia have drug problem. Mexico wil be a super power in 2030.
>>73577286
you wanna know why we have a drug problem? Thanks to south American immigrants fucking things up. Goddamn immigrants, they should all be gassed
>>73577340
dont blame others. You have a lot of corruption and
greedy capos like we have. South Italy started with your problem in the 80s in Sicilia, and South Americans never existed there. its your fault, not theirs. plus Mexico is in North America.
Mexico's main problem is the oligarchy and the billionaires (Carlos Slim) raping the economy. The drug cartels are just a symptom of the oligarchy.
Building a wall will force Mexicans to overthrow the oligarchs and put in an actually useful government.
IF Trump is elected (unlikely) the new Mexican government would even have an ally in charge in the US that wouldn't try to change things back with a coup.
>>73577286
HDI =/= superpower kek.
Also, that projection is extremely generous at best. Mexico is a nation entirely comprised of lawless banditos. It has literally always been that way.
You guys are rebels like us except without the functioning government part.
>>73577159
>Can Mexico ever be fixed?
Stop buying drugs. Also those maps are funny, since none of the narcos own territories.
>>73577525
lawless banditos? thats how holywood influenced you and the world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexico%27s_37_most-wanted_drug_lords
The 95% of Mexicans are good people.
60% of Mexicans are employed in the "shadow economy" i.e. outside the system
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-economy-informal-idUSBRE95P09C20130626
The government is too corrupt for anyone to want to deal with it.
>>73577556
Canada doesn't seem to have a problem with drug cartels.
mexico will never be fixable because of:
1. catholic caste culture (namely worship of rich people, and zealous elite families) amongst all classes
2. rampant alcoholism and drug abuse (due in part to indio genes)
3. upper classes are extremely kleptomaniac, to the point where they trust the US government over their own
4. open southern border
5. non homogeneous ethnic makeup, which makes unifying the country impossible
6. most of the population resides in the capital city
7. general lack of accountability in everything
8. anyone worth their shit moves to the US (legally) anyway
For example, most of mexico's railroads were built under Diaz, a dictator. In the modern day mexico couldn't even build a train line from DF to Veracruz without the contractor stealing all the money. Even fucking New Jersey, Illinois and California are capable of doing this despite being run by Democrats and perpetually bankrupt. However, they are not run by mexicans.
>>73577426
The mafia is not strictly related to the massive drug inflow we are having. Yes they peddled drugs but they are in competition with the foreign drug dealers.
>plus Mexico is in North America
I'm not talking about Mexico. Most of our drug trade is from Colombia, Bolivia and all those shitholes
>>73577286
kek sweden
>>73577615
also forgot:
9. culture of tax evasion (this is common in southern europe as well)
10. culture of bribery and jewry (everyone has a price, from police officers to parents offering their children to sex tourists)
>>73577615
It's genetics
they were eating each other before the Spanish ever came to the continent
>>73577498
they only do it because mexicans tolerate having their kids running around their cities selling everything from chiclets to their asses to total strangers. Also chicano gang cultures amongst heavily indigenous mexicans
>>73577803
>>73577608
You can do anything in your nation if the bribe is large enough. Literally anything.
Also, the "every man for himself by any means" culture seems to permeate your entire country. I'm not saying that your people are bad; you just learned how to function within your unique system.
>>73577615
you are an idiot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPb0jQ0_tUs
>>73577803
we were not Aztecs. Mexicans were born in 1821.
>>73577159
The only way to save them is to bring them some freedom. Trump can assign them a senator until they get settled into our ways, and they can elect their own governor. Send in our military to be temporary police and fuck up the cartel. We get their oil and more taxes from people vacationing there, and they get to not be killed in the invasion. Everybody wins.
>>73577817
If they try to build a better system the drug cartels (which the oligarchy supports) will just kill them anyway
http://www.cnn.com/2016/01/02/americas/mexican-mayor-slain/
>>73577608
>The 95% of Mexicans are good people.
>>73577836
tarasco all the way fuck aztecs
>>73577159
Who cares about our neighbors to the south, to be honest?
>>73577847
talking about this senpai, it was actually pretty big news in US transportation policy circles because China was going to do a similar project between Victorville and Vegas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-speed_rail_in_Mexico
>In November 2014 it was announced, that a consortium Railway Construction Corporation was selected as winner. Consortium consists of China Railway Construction Corporation, CSR, GIA, Prodemex, Teya, GHP infrastructure Mexicana and Systra. Including rolling stock and other railway equipment, the cost of the project is 50.8 billions of pesos.[2]
>However, a few days later, President Enrique Peña Nieto revoked the concession to this consortium, after evidence was found and broadcast, that corrupt acts led to having them selected as a winner (for example, the consortium giving a USD 7 million house, located in a highly exclusive zone in Mexico City, as a present to the president's wife).[3]
>On January 30, 2015, the Mexican Secretary of Finance and Public Credit, Luis Videgaray Caso, announced federal budget cutbacks of 124 billion pesos (0.7% of GDP) in response to the impact on Mexican federal government revenues from the rapidly falling price of crude oil. One of the immediate consequences of these cutbacks is the "indefinite suspension" of work on the Mexico City–Querétaro High-Speed Railway.[4]
instead pic related stole all the money (as is the natural habit of his kind)
>>73577920
If we were all criminals like Holywood said, nobody will visit us.
10-Mexico
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Tourism_rankings
its just a stereotype.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oTa9yZ8wWg
>>73577882
so you see "no" connection between the Aztecs and modern Mexico?
>>73577159
You know drug trade wouldn't exist if you fat fucks stopped snorting them?
>>73577613
Thats because canadians smuggle using the elderly and model trains.
>>73578072
>nobody will visit us.
nobody does except hispanics and latinos (including "white" ones)
Hawaii gets more tourists than you, if only because people don't have to pay $200 for a passport.
>>73578063
It's almost as if nothing can get done in a corrupt country
Reminder that the Mexican media idealizes illegal immigration and drug cartels
>>73578063
He had to pay millions to China for the paused project. You dont know anything about us.
You are just saying that we are all indios, and thats why we are not a succesful nation. We are mostly Spanish LMAO.
>>73578128
>The drug trade in Afghanistan/Turkey/Iran/etc wouldn't exist if you fat Europeans faggots would stop using heroin
That's a stupid argument. Junkies will always junkie regardless of which piece of dirt they were born on.
>>73578128
where are all the Canadian cartels then?
>>73578180
I did a mistake. We are the 9th most visited country. Hawaii, not a country.
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/articulo/nacion/politica/2016/05/2/mexico-noveno-pais-mas-visitado-nivel-mundial
>>73578200
>He had to pay millions to China for the paused project.
mexican taxpayers paid for it, meanwhile he had no charges brought against him and is still your president. Mostly because your country is a defacto one party state under the PRI
>You are just saying that we are all indios, and thats why we are not a succesful nation. We are mostly Spanish LMAO.
you're a mixed country of mestizos
>>73578080
0%
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syJvZlN45Uw
Again. Aztecs were not Mexicans. and Aztecs were killed in a 95% by Spanish.
>>73578285
>We are the 9th most visited country.
yeah by centracas and sudacas, mexico is the doorstep to el norte
>>73578072
the corrupt oligarchy, media, and drug cartels collude to hide the cartel violence
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/04/journalists-mexico-press-freedom-photographer-ruben-espinosa-murder
>>73577159
>keeping out the drug trade
This is an impossibility.
>>73578354
We are mostly white and mestizos. And those mestizos have more european blood.
A 2012 study published by the Journal of Human Genetics Y chromosomes found the deep paternal ancestry of the Mexican mestizo population to be predominately European (64.9%), followed by Amerindian (30.8%) and Asian(1.2%).[69] The European Y chromosome was more prevalent in the north and west (66.7-95%)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexicans#Population_genetics
>>73578423
Journalists are killed all the time in Mexico to hide violence and corruption
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/ana-flores-salazar-was-third-journalist-killed-mexico-2016-n516661
The wall is the only hope mexico has to fix itself.
hopefully americans install turrets and drone patrols along the border so they can slaughter any narco trying to smuggle their shit.
>>73577286
Sad
>>73578463
>We are mostly white and mestizos.
white europeans in mexico are an extremely small minority, most of your "white" people are castizos and mestizos. Groups which are not white in any other part of the world.
>A 2012 study published by the Journal of Human Genetics Y chromosomes found the deep paternal ancestry of the Mexican mestizo population to be predominately European (64.9%), followed by Amerindian (30.8%) and Asian(1.2%).[69] The European Y chromosome was more prevalent in the north and west (66.7-95%)
one drop rule = indio
Just embrace it like your cousins to the south of you do. Your skin is brown, your skull mongoloid. Embrace it.
>>73578476
The oligarchy and the drug cartels kill anyone in the media that tries to expose the violence and corruption in Mexico
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128929784
>>73578423
No. My country is not ruled by dirty drug dealers. And we dont have too much violence. its the America media that are lying all the time.
>>73577159
Annex Mexico, invade and remove corrupt politicians and drug cartels by force.
Make Mexico a state of the USA.
This ends the drug war, solves illegal immigration by simply making all Mexicans US citizens, and dramatically improves the lot of the Mexican people.
You can also take control of Mexico's oil reserves.
As for demographics, the US has passed the tipping point and will became majority Hispanic regardless, you can either watch America become Hispanic or make Hispanics into Americans.
>>73578613
You're pissing me off bruv, you don't know how bad it really is, nobody fucking knows how bad things really are.
Just in this year we have seen thousands of criminals leave prisons because of the constitional reforms that are now in full effect.
>>73578613
>My country is not ruled by dirty drug dealers.
ir a la cama enrique
>>73578613
>censor or die
>but everything is fine
https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/censor-or-die-the-death-of-mexican-news-in-the-age-of-drug-cartels/2015/12/09/23acf3ae-8a26-11e5-9a07-453018f9a0ec_story.html
>>73578558
No. Mexico is 60% mestizo, 30% white, and the rest indian.
94 Millions of We Mexicans have Spanish and WHITE ancestry, we are not indios.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_diaspora#Mexico
>>73577159
>>73578613
The problem with Mexico is that it's filled with Mexicans.
What we are dealing with is a race of degenerates. A mongrel race, little better than niggers. And maybe no better. There is no government in Mexico. Hell, there's no God in Mexico! Never will be. We are dealing with a people manifestly incapable of governing themselves; a bunch of barbarians that even the most biased in their favor will admit have no least notion in God's earth of honor or justice or the meaning of republican government.
>>73578613
lol? juarez, nogales and tijuana were literally iraq around 2009
>>73578722
Idiot, I live in Juarez, and right know we have el chapo guzman here. I have seen how my country cleaned up Juarez by this drug war. Now my city and country is more safe. We are winning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexico%27s_37_most-wanted_drug_lords
>>73577159
Mexico is a vassal state of the United States. Yeah it could be fixed but it would require their independence from us. Beyond this, there are obviously more problems with Mexico than the ones that US itself brings, there are cultural and societal issues that would call on them as people to step up and make it a better place. This, too, is almost as impossible as America taking its financial claws out of Mexico's face.
Just look at the Mexicans here in US. They do actually work pretty hard, and they are on the level not actually bad people. They have high drop-out rates though and are generally poor educated due to their culture of breeding reinforced by catholocism. They are also profligate spenders, don't invest into their futures, and don't like to own up to responsibility.
There's also a massive divide within Mexican society where the people who are well off are disproportionately so to an extreme, this is probably due in large part to being enabled by American interests too since I find it hard to believe that the richest druglords in Mexico DON'T have American government connections.
>>73577920
I'd infinitely rather live next to a Mexican than to a Muslim.
>>73577159
Sure. Just remove everything that isn't Aguascalientes or similar regions.
>>73577286
>Cuba
This list is absolutely trash. Cubans are one of the worst people to have ever inhabit this earth. I know this firsthand, been to Cuba three times, absolutelty hated it.
They're so glued to that status quo and are so conformist they're gonna stay a "communist" country probly forever. Fuck them.
>>73577340
Yeah, its totaly not because Mafia
>>73578959
just check it our their HDI and compare to Mexico in 2016.
>>73577613
>"shadow economy" i.e. outside the system
>he thinks it is a crime
It means that they are jobs in which you do not receive welfare benefits, part time jobs, temporary jobs, etc., learn to read.
Also stop buying drugs and stop your negro in chief to gunwalk weapons to the narcos.
>>73578197
It doesn't and it is against the law in mexico to do shit like in your pic.
>>73578423
If nothing happens, it must be that they are hiding it!
Ahaha
>>73578860
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mexico%27s_37_most-wanted_drug_lords
Cartels are like the Hydra, it doesn't matter how many times you cut its head off, by the time you're finished another two will have already taken its place.
Getting rid of the leaders does fuck nothing to the cartels and their infrastructure that is already well-established, in fact it leads to surge in violence because of the inevitable power vaccum and in-fighting among them to decide who is the next fuckhead they're going to call boss.
>>73578792
Not mongrel. We are mostly European.
A 2012 study published by the Journal of Human Genetics Y chromosomes found the deep paternal ancestry of the Mexican mestizo population to be predominately European (64.9%), followed by Amerindian (30.8%) and Asian(1.2%).[69] The European Y chromosome was more prevalent in the north and west (66.7-95%)
stop this indio thing. Mexico is only 8% indio, and they dont rule this country. We the Spanish mexicans rule it idiot.
>>73579069
not paying taxes is a crime
also
"everything is fine nothing is broken"
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/02/18/being-a-journalist-in-mexico-is-getting-even-more-dangerous/
This whole thread bummed me right the hell out.
>>73578860
Only legalization, good education, and dead penalty will erase the roots of the plant.
>>73579177
>>73579131
In all honesty, we want what's best for your country, just as ours. We are neighbors after all. We just don't want your trash flooding us and turning it into a third world shit hole.
>>73579131
>Y chromosome
Yes a few spanish conquistadors conquered Mexico and created a nation of rape babies. I bet your Mitochondrial DNA is 2/3 amerindian.
>>73578766
>No. Mexico is 60% mestizo, 30% white, and the rest indian.
so you're 70% indio and 30% "white"
>94 Millions of We Mexicans have Spanish and WHITE ancestry, we are not indios.
indio.
>>73579294
The US government doesn't want what's best for Latin America
that's why they destroyed every country that tried to fix itself, and why Obama currently sides with the oligarchs in Mexico that want as many illegals to flood the US as possible.
>>73579177
good now put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger
one less mexican means one less subhuman wasting air
>>73579297
and we have an Spanish immigration in the XX century for their civil war. And now they are coming here again for their crisis.
In the period 1850-1950, 3.5 million Spanish left for the Americas, and Mexico became one of the chief destinations, particularly the Northern region where Porfirio Diaz started a campaign of European immigration to supply labor.[8]
Most recent migrants came during the Spanish Civil War. More than 100,000 Spanish refugees settled in Mexico during this era. Some of the migrants returned to Spain after the civil war, but many more remained in Mexico[citation needed].
Due to the 2008 Financial Crisis and the resulting economic decline and high unemployment in Spain, many Spaniards have been emigrating to Mexico to seek new opportunities.[9] For example, during the last quarter of 2012, a number of 7,630 work permits were granted to Spaniards.[10]
If you dont know anything of my great country fuck off Ahmed, and be quiet please.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_immigration_to_Mexico
>>73579479
rude
>>73579131
It doesn't matter how white you are, a crooked asshole is worse than a nigger, for their evil deeds are the truest manifestation of evil by virtue of being deliberate acts of malice and selfishness.
A nigger is just a wild animal.
>>73579297
Mexico is whiter than Britain at this point.
If I had to choose, I'd rather be the son of a conquistador who mated with a native than of an arab.
>>73579679
Then Mexico, along with most of the world, is far whiter than the US.
>62%
>>73578869
t. Rodrigo Pablo Encobar
>>73579765
let's not kid ourselves
it's far lower than 62%
>>73578766
>30% white, and the rest indian.
>94 Millions of We Mexicans have Spanish and WHITE ancestry, we are not indios.
hol up
>>73579637
I prefer black Americans than white Americans.
>>73577286
>Spain
>4
What drugs were the people that made the people that made this list taking?
>>73579765
This doesn't really phase me because I'm not even white, I'm asian. But if you ask me, a site of genetic heritage being wiped out like England is worse than US being open to anybody willing to work it. US is a massive country with a lot of land to be worked.
It isn't a cultural heritage site though, for those who it is a visit to that culture is nothing short of depressing, and that is what England will become.
>>73579162
>not paying taxes is a crime
You must pay taxes, every single one of us. Our ''''IRS'''' will find you and make you pay, you cannot avoid this (taxes are deduced from your paycheck automatically.)
>muh journalism
>let me hang out in dangerous zones and criminals, nothing wrong will happen
>>73580044
I dont know why are you surprised, they are the first world. And once the best empire than all time.
>>73580138
jajajaajaja la banca toda rayada, es Mexico.
>>73580147
They also have unemployment in the high teens and no economic growth.
>>73577615
South Carolina can't even maintain a road, the Republicans steal all the money.
California's roads are like the fucking Autobahn in comparison. And California has an actual, working rail system and plans for a bullet train.
Nigger please. You southern trash are laughably retarded. The entire south is an impoverished, 3rd world shithole.
And don't try to blame it on niggers, white southerners are niggers. South Carolina is mostly white, yet is the 3rd most nigger state behind Mississippi and Louisiana... and it's yours white niggers that get you your bronze medal in niggerdom.
>>73580257
this.
I went to NO before katrina, and it looks like Africa.
>>73580138
>people working on the side of the road have paychecks
>journalists are hunted down and killed for writing stories critical of the government and cartels are just "asking for it"
>>73580440
because it's full of blacks
>>73580257
>>73580440
The weird thing is whites and blacks get along better in those places classically designated as racist too. When you see all those protesting chimps bitching about white people, none of them are in the south.
>>73580257
>South Carolina is mostly white
it's so easy to spot an antiwhite shill
>>73580527
Yes, believe it or not.
They are asking for trouble, they will get in trouble. I can write whatever i want against my government and nothing will happen to me. I can write against the narcos too, but the moment you start to hanging out with them and be complicit you will be in serious shit.
>>73580766
>I can write whatever i want against my government and nothing will happen to me.
KEK
E
K
>but the moment you start to hanging out with them and be complicit you will be in serious shit.
The only way to verify any story is to document it
>>73579679
Arabs have contributed more to humanity than Mexicans ever will.
>>73581042
No they haven't, all of the accomplishments to come out of the middle east from Muslims was by Persians or other non-Arabs.
>>73578766
>the year is 2560
>whites have been mixed out of existence
>the average human IQ is now 90
>the entire planet looks like Brazil
>people argue over their 23% European ancestry
>mutts from the slums put Irish, German, French, English on their census even though the last white guy in their family was 8 generations ago
>>73580870
>kek
Yes I can, fuck Pena Nieto, fuck el PRI, fuck Carlos Salinas, fuck this and that I can go on for years and years. Things like pic related are posted on social media every single day.
>The only way to verify any story is to document it
Seems you can't read. Those people where not interested in documenting shit. Narcos will kill narcos, it is their '''code'''.
>>73577286
LOOK AT US GO CUNTS!
MUH HDI
See you fuckers shitposting skills pay the bills.
You're all the losers of life and we are laughing at you.
>>73577159
>Is is even possible to save our neighbors to the south from themselves?
Don't try to save someone if you can't save yourself first.
>>73581424
>fuck Pena Nieto, fuck el PRI, fuck Carlos Salinas
you think saying "fuck x" is journalism?
>Those people where not interested in documenting shit
So every journalist that reports on corruption and cartel violence is in fact a cartel member?
kek
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/mexico-deadly-journalists-targeted-cartels-article-1.1334310
>>73577159
Build a wall. Then Legalize drugs in mexico
>>73580675
It is, you illiterate nigger.
Go back to grammar school, Cleetus, then maybe you'll be able to decrypt your own chart.
>>73580605
>Ferguson
>not the south
It's because the whites and the niggers here are equal. They are both nigger trash with varying levels of melanin.
>>73581646
>you think saying "fuck x" is journalism?
You think that there isn't actual journalism that hits really hard on the government or the narcos? You can't even imagine what is out there hahaha entry level shit like aristegi, ferriz de con, editorials on the big newspapers, leftist crap like proceso, etc. are brutal. Too bad you can't even read them.
>reports on corruption and cartel violence is in fact a cartel member?
Some of them are proteges and/or friends of narcos. Narcos will kill narcos. Everyone knows this. You assume those journalists tell the truth and that they are impartial (protip: not)
Also your link is pretty cute with that map of narco bands that doesn't exist anymore
>templarios, zetas, beltran leyva, del golfo
>organized crime has taken control of entire territories,
Top kek, see above, none of them have actual territory
>>73582511
nope
South Carolina is a shithole because it's full of blacks
Move to Detroit if you love blacks so much
>>73582783
Op ed aren't actual investigative journalism
>Some of them are proteges and/or friends of narcos.
where's the proof besides your ass?
>Also your link is pretty cute with that map of narco bands that doesn't exist anymore
not really an argument since it's a 3 year old article.
more recent one
http://www.houstonchronicle.com/local/texas-politics/politifact/article/Number-of-murdered-journalists-in-Mexico-hard-to-7248757.php
>>73578766
Dude, ignore him, he's just a stupid white racist.
>one drop rule = indio
See? Only a retarded redneck would believe this 1850s crap.
>>73583149
si senor
>>73578792
Now that...was a kickass novel.
>>73583139
South Carolina is run by white trash Republicans.
You sound like a nigger blaming whitey for your problems.
Truth is, you're a white nigger and SC along with the rest of the south is run by white nigger trash.
