Millennial Woes on suicide watch
>"Something happened that really took the wind out of my sails. I don't want to go into it here. Suffice it to say, as a result,
>I really don't know what to do, with the channel, MW, with the entire alt right. I don't know what we're fucking doing, even
>I can't be specific
>I feel gutted. And confused"
What is he refusing to tell us?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUcymHT0bUQ
>>73549707
who?
>>73549707
I'm too high to listen to this right now, is that literally all the information he's given at the moment?
>mfw his "girlfriend" posted a thread on /pol/ last night
WHEN
WILL THEY
EVER LEARN
>>73549858
He probably got cancer or something. Yea, he hasn't let the cat out of the bag yet
>>73549770
only the best alt right youtuber of all time
>>73549707
The Muslim mayor was too much for him
>>73549960
proof or you're bullshit
>>73550011
>only the most autistic alt right youtuber of all time
ftfy
>>73550132
Fuck off nigger, why are you even here
>>73550185
It doesn't mean he's wrong on everything.
He's literally autistic. He has aspergers.
>>73550011
I doubt cancer.
Perhaps a knock from the Scottish police? There is no free speech in the UK.
He also supposedly got a gf recently so that could be a factor one way or another.
>>73550261
>>73550261
>He's literally autistic. He has aspergers.
yea fucking right
he's a pretty cool guy. he's troubled, but he's a cool person.
>>73550338
o yea good guess, he could have gotten some kind of police notice
or yea a GF demanding he stop being "racist" might overwhelm him
>>73550261
I agree he definitely has that autist vibe. Cool guy though.
I wish he had release those fuckin Rotherham videos though.
>>73550261
Did he say that? He's actually a good conversationalist, picks up social cues, has accommodating pacing, and back and forth, so I doubt that he's an aspie--they tend not to be able to do those things.
He does, or did, likely have social anxiety, and he was diagnosed with depression.
>>73550261
He's pretty far from autistic. You are working pretty hard to insure that word means nothing aren't you?
>>73550462
Honestly anyone with social anxiety would never make tons and tons of videos like that. He's putting himself out there. Not socially anxious behavior
>>73549707
damn what happened
>>73550462
He's autistic in the sense he still loves at home at nearly 40 years old in a shitty area of Scotland yet insists on speaking in a refined way , and is obsessed with 70s British drama and Coca Cola.
>>73549707
He's mentally ill ffs. He obviously has a lot of personal problems that have attracted him to the alt right. One of the first videos I watched from MW had him talking about the fact he had been contemplating suicide.
What a sad existence for an otherwise intelligent man.
>>73550599
If not an autist he's very, VERY eccentric.
>>73550493
ensure
Now, THAT was autistic--what I just did.
>>73549707
I feel really bad for this guy but I'm really thankful he makes these videos.
>>73550662
Well, he went to art school.
>>73550700
Thank you. Really.
maybe he's coming out as gay
>>73550972
"I finally had my first taste of black cock and I loved it"
I'm going to laugh my ass off if that's it.
Publicly associating yourself with a race based movement is pretty autistic, the fact that he is a faggot depressed suicidal neet who is worshipped by the alt right is a clear indication of the lack of depth in the movement.
>>73549707
literally who?
>>73551075
We don't worship him, we just like how smart he is and that he BTFOs the left.
I wish he was not a messed up neet, but he's not a piece of shit. The guy has a lot of good qualities
>>73549707
>yfw Milo brings these newfag "alt-right" fedoras onto /pol/
probably got threatened by an antiracist organisation
or threatened by the security services
>>73551194
wow this is so dumb
Before anyone knew who the fuck Milo was, there were Millennial Woes threads on /pol/ lol
>>73551258
I just listened to the videos. He talks about doubts and not wanting to be fake. I'm guessing he's had a change of heart. He probably had a love affair with a gay muslim man somewhere in France.
>>73551339
or he was one of the women raped in Cologne, which was where he went for vacation
he probably converted to Islam
>>73549707
hif gf cucked him with a muslim
>>73551574
but how much did he like it?
Did his new gf dump him? She was hot as fugg
>>73551742
pic?
This guy sounds like a fucking woman. On the verge of crying for 20 minutes and not getting to the point. Fag.
>>73551783
Have some sympathy
Sounds like he's going through a hard time.
>>73551783
Not to mention how cringe it is when he sparks up a smoke mid-vid.
Literally a mouth fedora.
>>73550057
I saw the thread. There were a couple of pics of her and him in it. I think she deleted it after like 50 posts
>>73551934
4plebs it
damn. i always sort of felt bad watching him because he's genuinely a nice and intelligent guy who hates what his country is becoming, and there's nothing he can do about it. i feel for him
>>73552128
Alright give me a minute to find this shit. It was posted last night I believe. You can look for it as well.
Brb
>>73549707
Manlet Woes got blown the fuck out by based Adam Wallace. (PBUH) He's now completely butthurt because MW's videos are shit tier compared to Adam Wallace
>>73552325
Just looked - can't find it on there.
>>73549707
I'm watching of this guys vids
He's a fucking drama queen
"I'm the leader of the alt right"
most popular video: 30,000 views
never heard of this fag
>>73550754
New Hitler?
>>73552367
link
>>73552367
>>73549960
>>73550585
>>73550972
It's none of these things.
I've spoken to him on Skype about it.
He's had a 're-think' about some of his opinions, especially his antidemocratic and racial views, because he believes to have finally 'lifted himself from depression' and realised that he was espousing those ideas from pain, rather than from logic or need.
His girlfriend has had a moderating influence on him and has talked him out of a lot of things, including the channel. And he doesn't feel right being a 'leader' of the alt-right.
That's the long and short of it.
>>73549707
He probably met a single non-white person that he liked and it changed his whole perspective.
Alt-right people are fucking retards.
>>73550599
>He's autistic in the sense he still loves at home at nearly 40
that's called being a poorfag, it's not always the result of autism. also, asperger's is a fake disease. real autistics can hardly talk or take care of themselves without sreaming and acting insane over noises and colors around them.
>>73553115
sounds plausible
>>73553164
Lmao. Most of the alt right would switch up real fast if they met a brown qt.
>>73553115
Jesus he's been bewitched. I fucking knew it
>>73553115
stuff like this makes me want to just give up
he has to rethink his "racial views"
so he's turning into a cuck essentially?
and another emerging freethinker has been pulled back into the darkness of liberalism
>wakemeup.jpg
>saveme.jpg
>>73553115
>all his views were based on emotions rather than facts or logic, and now that he's not depressed, he believe opposite things
If this is true, let that be a lesson to you anons about the "alt-right", to be skeptical about anyone one youtube asking you for clicks and views, or claiming to be leaderfag of online bullshits.
>>73553115
>giving up your views to get paid
Literally the most "guy" thing ever.
>>73553428
*to get laid
>>73553327
thats not remotely true
you're just a bitter nihilist
>>73553364
There's no real leaders in any of these things. It's just disparate lost souls wallowing in the fading light as they're consumed by the abyss of the Left.
>>73553327
She's a blond white girl my man.
Dat nigga hasn't had sex in so long he's probably fallen completely head over heels for her
Lmao
>>73553327
yea this is not true at all
We'd all fuck brown girls, because we're males, but we wouldn't stop believing in White advocacy
>>73549707
mkultra HAARP activated
>>73553115
That is even worse than being an autistic loser. My wife was not moderated my views. I have made her a woman who screams "the fucking kikes again" when a new study promoting interracial marriages is promoted by the media.
>>73550185
>>73550361
>>73550406
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>>73550745
>>73551837
>>73553356
Good lord you alt-right people are super depressed. Maybe you should focus on improving your own life instead of calling everyone that you don't like a nigger or a cuck.
>>73553646
it's probably bullshit, the same poster was bullshitting earlier
Keep the thread alive idiots. I'm trying to find that thread
>>73553931
It doesn't exist.
>>73552325
please find it
>>73553115
Hes new gf is an ex coalburner. He's doing mental gymnastics out of pure desperation
>>73553356
I doubt he did a total 180. He didn't just magically forget the realities of IQ, and disparate population characteristics. If anything, facts about those areas are only going to becoming MORE understood in the mainstream over time. The only room for disagreement is the specific implications and approaches we can take as a society.
All ideological groups, can have a self-destructive tendencies for the most puristic views to always whip alternative viewpoints into shape, and continuously push a movement to its furthest extreme. This is the reason for the left going off the deep end, and I don't want to see the right wing fall into that trap.
We should worry about agreeing on the facts, rather than agreeing on every solution. It's hard enough to get certain facts in the mainstream, let along right wing responses to them.
>>73553984
evidence?
>>73554024
inb4 you're responding to a troll
>>73553984
you can't say something like that and have no proof
>>73553984
>ex coalburner
Wut
Who exactly is his gf?
>>73553263
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>>73553428
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>>73553646
I was just fucking about guys, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's slightly true.
>>73549707
most boring thread in /pol
an amazing achievement, OP
>>73549707
23andme results are in
He's another quadroon but this time half jew too.
I've actually talked to him on skype. He had a visit from the Scottish police who just told him they were watching him. Basically a threat that freaked him out and now he has a gf he has something to lose so he's unsure of what to do.
He isn't used to dealing with police so it's understandable he's freaked out by it
>>73554260
This is the most likely scenario.
>>73549707
Listen to your heart.
>>73554260
>mfw literally everyone has talked to him on Skype and he's told 20 different stories and everyone's trolling everyone.
>>73549707
I don't know who the fuck this is. And I don't care. Shit thread.
>>73554427
>his Skype is literally just millenialwoes and he's always online and will talk to anyone.
>>73553500
you make it sound really emo.
ALSO, I'm listening to this youtube OP posted and I don't hear shit about him "changing his mind" or "having opposite views". he spends the whole time talking about building a website, whether hangouts are good or bad for the audience, whether the channel should grow or be abandoned for a different format with new production methods.
>skip ahead to 9:40
He sounds super motivated to keep producing content, just not sure where or how -- then he drops this weird comment about
>"i completely flipped from being upbeat and full of energy, to being gutted and confused"
>"i dont know if i should be talking about this thing publicly"
>"before I was a 'figure' i could say whatever i thought"
>"ive become some kind of leader...a prominent figure...i dont know if a leader should discuss ones doubts in public...but then that would be insincere, dishonest...i dont want to do that...something i've prided myself on is being honest with you...i dont want it to become fake...if i have doubts about this, then its not right to continue, BUT IM NOT SAYING IM GOING TO STOP, its just something i need to cogitate over
>meanwhile, ill make a dedicated video expressing these doubts in a structured manner
It could be anything, but it sounds like he wants to keep building his show. Might have been a falling out that made him think this "movement" has structural problems, could be the election in London, could be Milo and the behavior of people coopting the "alt-right" for their own careers, could be some other insight about what good the alt-right can do.
who the fuck knows, who the fuck ultimately cares -- hes going to make a video explaining it all. just wait for it.
>>73554260
This is why you choose anonymity, especially in a country with speech laws.
OP here again guys
I think this might explain part of what's going on
https://atcwallace.com/2016/05/08/on-the-changing-face-of-the-alt-right/
>>73553115
whats up Tik? how you been?
>>73549707
MW is always a low-energy downer though. Luckily with his hangouts he brings on high energy people like based Seventh Son and such.
Seventh, if you're reading this, I fucking love you and the rest of the goys and you should do another Triple D parody.
>>73549707
He had some shit in his description of another video about police and in his hangout with that Khan dude, he mentioned the cops at least twice. Maybe he had a run in with law enforcement. That or maybe Londonstan electing a muzzie
>>73554586
Nah, literally no one gives a fuck about 'trap' Adam Wallace.
>>73554586
>https://atcwallace.com/2016/05/08/on-the-changing-face-of-the-alt-right/
wow 4chan is 2edgy for these jewtubers what a surprise?
>>73554586
also this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra_-QHCwN50
>>73554834
he mentions that MWs originally posted a comment on that video, which he seems to have taken down. >>73554881
>>73554871
Alt Right is kind of more edgy and coarse than it used to be. Big deal say I >>73554881
>>73554586
Yes, I read that article. I think it's undeniable when you simply consider how many people on pol would react negatively to its point. No one has figured out a way to translate intellectual right wing though to the dissatisfied masses. Admittedly, it's hard to show up at a beer hall, and have a casual chat about Guénon these days. Charges of elitism aside, most people simply aren't educated enough to have substantive political discussions anymore, if they ever where. This is as true on the right as it is on the left.
Denying this won't do any good. It is simply difficult to synthesize a viable right wing populism atm that isn't almost as contradictory and self destructive as SJWism.
>>73554586
Lmao. This guy actually thinks you can have a movement completely filled with intellectuals. Does he have no idea pandering to the bottom is what moves nations? He's seriously mad because "da alt right" is gaining support from the rubes?
What an absolute moron. Look how well that elitism turned out for the neocons
>>73555105
I agree with you
Intellectuals are important, but he's too intolerant of plebs. Also he calls Richard Spencer a "leftist". lmfao
>>73554881
I only watched the first minutes but tldr: he doesn't like that NRx is getting sidelined, yeah?
There's a time and place for everything. The more ivory tower stuff can take a back seat. Right now our main problem is demographics and other "basic bitch" shit.
>>73553115
And by "his girlfriend" you mean "the CIA" because 'alt-right' is nothing more than a psyops at this point. :^)
>>73549707
>youtube faggots
Enough.
>>73555243
I like NRx and I agree it's important, but he's being a bitch, yea.
He's the kind of person who won't ever do anything practical.
>>73555285
>not sucking youtube cock
>2016
no
>>73555077
>Guénon
Ah yes, what a great example to follow. A Frenchman who converted to Islam.
>>73555243
Adam is arseblasted because he's not as popular as Woes.
Woes is an intelligent guy that could easily join Adam in his ivory tower but he chooses not to.
>>73555105
No. He never said that--at least I didn't catch anything to that effect. The problem is the values, and cultural *instincts* that underlie the more intellectual elements of the right, as virtually extinct now, even among people who are naturally inclined, and tempered to right wing views. Much of the literature of the last century has been about the cultural and spiritual death of the west since WWI, and even before. Curb stomping Muslims, and putting Jewish intellectuals and bankers against the wall isn't going to fix that. There would still be an identity desert even if all of the foreign, invasive, and subversive elements in western societies were eradicated tomorrow--we're still be FUCKED. It's easy to feel hopeless when you recognize this.
If he changed his mind it could be interesting if he stayed active. He could become the first anti-alt-righter.
The alt-right is only successful as it is since none of their enemies respond to their arguments seriously, just dismiss them. This is a pretty stupid move since it allows the arguments to stand unchallenged while making the opponents appear scared and irrational.
So to defeat the alt-right what would be required are intellectuals who are immersed in the alt-right dialect but got sick of it.
>>73553115
what a beta pussywiped bitch
fuck they are the worst
and fuck the vaginal jews
>>73555435
Liberal licking your lips, stop licking your lips, Woes won't feed you lovely anti alt right videos.
I know it
>>73554944
alt right is gay and stale
We need to unleash some of the anon beasts here.
>>73555645
no don't you get it, Adam is buttblasted that the alt right ISN'T gay and stale anymore
>>73555414
If you don't understand that Islam will DESERVE its conquest of the west if the west is too weak to defend itself, then you really haven't grasped the essence of the traditional right, and are still wallowing in mere self-interest--not that there's anything wrong with that. It might save you, but it won't save your group.
>>73555327
>>73555166
Exactly.
Right now, the alt-right is experiencing growing pains. But when this sort of a thing happens, there's a tendency for groups to try to "purity spiral" and tear each other apart for not being radical/pure enough.
I disagree with cucks like RamZ who think we should be pro-zionist and pro-nonwhite-nationalist and all that cuck bullshit, but at the same time, people have to set aside their fucking differences and stop infighting over ivory tower bullshit. It's nonsense that we have people who agree with each other 99%, but are at each others throats and tearing each other down because of the 1% of high-level theory that they disagree on.
No one should punch to the right.
>>73555591
I'm just saying it would be interesting. It doesn't benefit the movement anyway to have no legit opponents.
>>73555739
RamZ isn't a fucking cuck man.
RamZ is against crazy neonazi idiots like pic related. They're cancer, they're not "more right wing" they're just crazy.
>>73555790
buttblasted intellectuals like Adam are leaving the alt right because it's "too edgy" now
>>73555724
Ya they want to be intellectual nitwits instead of going where the rubber meets the road. Half of them are fags, the rest are jews and quadroons for fucks sake.
>>73555414
>>73555732
Even Hitler admired Islam because he understood the natural dynamics of power and the struggle for dominance in life. Savitri Devi became a Hindu, not a Norse pagan, for the same reason. Some of these uncomfortable "intellectuallisms" are frankly beyond the tolerance of too many people who claim to be on the alt right.
>>73555863
He's a little too against them if you ask me. Wreaks of insecurity and manipulation.
>>73555875
>Half of them are fags, the rest are jews and quadroons for fucks sake.
not really
Most of the NRx and intellectual alt right are straight White guys. A few are gay. None are Jews or quadroons. Sargon isn't alt right
Also
>using the term quadroon
Are you trying to look like an idiot? lol
>>73555790
That's not exactly true. Alt-right isn't monolithic. It's just a loose confederation of different ideologies that stem from a few baseline acknowledgements, such as the rejection of the notion that we are all born equal. There are objectivists, monarchists, neoreactionaries, paleocons, fascists, nazis, etc etc etc. And these groups do debate each other and keep each other sharp.
>>73555732
>Islam deserves the west because shitskins are parasiting themselves on liberal democracies.
What?
>>73556019
>None are Jews
wut
>>73555994
RamZ is actually a white nationalist, he just hates the neonazi cancer. They're fucking horrible people. You seem fine, to me. Actual neo nazis are the best gift the Jews ever fucking got.
Every White person on planet earth is scared to be associated with them. Seriously, look up neonazis, they're fucking filth.
I wonder how the alt right is taking it? I mean everyone that ends up popular is broken. Fags, trannies, drug users, autism.
Perhaps this speaks to a core problem with the entire group to begin with.
>>73556099
You LET them be parasites! Are you too weak to admit any agency or responsibility for your people? Thank you for actually demonstrating my point.
>>73556109
o if you mean Mencius Moldbug.
I forgot.
When we say alt right we basically mean Radix and alt-right and TRS
>>73556019
>trying to invalidate statistical nature of race this hard
a good day to you too xir
>>73556087
Does the alt-right exist to put the breaks on society moving to the Right, and trap us back in progressivism, or does it exist to accelerate society's move to the right?
>>73555863
He spends more time counter-signaling against >muh neonazi strawman than he spends doing anything productive toward the overall message.
I've been listening to him for a while and I get the sense that he doesn't really believe everything he says in his heart.
Its my opinion that he is really just still desperately searching for meaning in life and his isn't sure the ideals he has chosen right now are true.
>>73556228
I'm not trying to deny race, WTF, you're nuts man
>>73555433
I don't see it that way. The common man follows the leader. We've had such weak leadership for so long it's natural that it has bred weakness into the whole society. People don't have anyone to look up to, and no higher purpose to fulfill. There is a vacuum of strong leadership, from the top(the presidency) to the bottom(the man of the house).
I believe we just need a good dose of testosterone to kick us back into gear.
>>73556188
>You let them be parasites
No I didn't anon.
We were born into this.
Your French faggot was the coward that converted to Islam instead of resisting it.
>>73556243
neonazis are fucking cancer that make us lose, every time
RamZ is attracting normal White people who otherwise would not take him seriously. He is bringing them to our side.
The people he attacks are stupid idiots. Seriously. RamZ is Jew wise and redpilled and he is actually a WN, he just says what he does to try and make our movement better.
>>73556127
>Actual neo nazis are the best gift the Jews ever fucking got.
COINTELPRO is real, but there will come a time when we will need some form of SA, because we will face paramilitary thugs from our enemies. Its inevitable. The oligarchs and wise rulers simply wont relinquish power past a point. These types will become our SA.
>>73556127
neo-nazi's are white niggers, they're a plague and give national socialism a terrible reputation.
>>73556289
>calling the use of the term quadroon idiotic
>calling me nuts
>>73556351
>I'm not responsible for the idiots in my group
Then why are "good Muslims" responsible for the idiots in theirs? I say you're BOTH responsible, but you want to have things both ways with contradictions and excepts just like and SJW, because you're not RIGHT WING, you're just angry that you're getting fucked.
>>73556411
You don't need to be a hitler heiling 14/88 idiot to be militant.
>>73556416
Yea I agree. The best thing to do is not even tell people you're national socialist. People will always associate it with neo nazi dirt. Act and think NS but don't say "hey guys I'm NS" unless you want all normies to think you're insane as fuck.
>>73556469
Using the term quadroon is a good way to mark yourself out as extremely fringe, that's all I'm saying. We need to show normies we're a group they can join.
>>73556534
Pussies. If you're organization isn't exclusively far right or all white then it will eventually drift to the left. If you truly believe that white are being genocided then we must fight.
>>73556407
You keep saying the same bullshit against a strawman over and over again. That you, RamZ? I can see your kansas flag.
Purity spiraling does not help. When you purge the ones furthest to the right (who aren't even in any way related to the aryan-brotherhood-style strawmen that supposedly infest the alt-right anyway) all that does is make the next-furthest-right people the new furthest right. And so on and so on.
Look at the standard GOP conservatives, for fucks sake. They've made it their duty since William F. Buckley to purge conservativism of anything and anyone they deemed uncouth and anyone that made them look bad. Well, fucking look how that turned out.
Don't punch to the right.
>>73556087
That's true but I haven't seen anybody smartly criticizing any type of alt-right who isn't another flavor of alt-right. Since original liberalism came about to criticize original traditionalism, it'd be interesting to see some kind of "alt-liberal."
I know there's an "alt-left" but they're pathetic meme communists and I don't think they're up to the task. Maybe Alex Jones' renaissance greenpill type thing is more appropriate.
>>73556665
14/88ers are not further right than me, they're just fucking cancerous crap. They're idiots and deserve no respect.
>>73556680
14/88 isn't to my right, it's to my dumb.
>>73556597
>We need to show normies we're a group they can join.
What we actually need is a version of "skinheads" in suits and ties. We need to get hold of these guys, and teach them discipline for appearance. Like publish on rules of appearance. Unfortunately, they still recruit a lot of these guys from the prison population, so there aren't a lot of the types you expect if we were recruiting from businesses, professions, or universities.
We do need tough people who can fight, and its hard to find that when you recruit people who are from well-groomed lifestyles. Former vets, even former inmates, are the toughest people with the same ideology out there. Until that changes, until we build other sources of support, it won't change.
>>73556351
>>73556477
And ultimately it's not even about responsibility. It's about REALITY--the reality of power, survival, and dominance. You are bound to the fate of your group, whether you life it or not. To a conservative Liberal, this makes you a collectivist. That's what any student of the enlightenment will tell you if you bind individuals for groups. They think only lefty communists do that, and they don't understand that the left / right divide is not about individuals vs society like libertarians want to believe. It's about the understanding of the human condition that you can't escape simply by picking the "right" ideology.
>>73553327
>Lmao. Most of the alt right would switch up real fast if they met a brown qt.
Nope. I am dating a asian chick, but I am choosing not to have kids, both as I don't want to be a father, and I want to protect my race. If I ever choose to have kids, I am hooking up with a white girl. The difficulty is that most of our women have been lost to feminism or have shitty family values.
>>73556680
>>73556665
Watch this video guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B2BS0KJLAg
This is the cancer of the 14/88ers who are the ultimate purists and punch almost constantly against rightwingers
>>73556285
That motherfucker is 30+ years old. If he hasn't figured out what he supports yet something is seriously wrong.
>>73556684
I'm not really sure what you require as far as the perfect counterargument to the alt-right. There are plenty on the left that get into debates with us (ranging from OMG I CANT EVEN carl the cucks to people that actually do intellectually debate from a liberal POV) and there are others on the alt-right that debate within the alt right and there are plenty of debates between the conservatives and libertarians with the alt right, etc etc etc.
Not sure what else is needed.
>>73556776
Who are these 14/88ers that triggered you? Did they hurt your fee fees? Sorry schlomo but I ain't buying. You can attended your multi cultural alt right conferences and accomplish dick
>>73549707
Hes gay
>>73556597
I think you're vastly overestimating how offensive people find the word quadroon. It's even a recurring gag in Archer.
>>73556808
We need a quantum computer to solve all truths and identify all paradoxes so we can proceed logically as a white race with indisputable facts to defend our existence
>>73556776
>Preserving the white race is dumb
I wonder who is behind this post.
We're a movement without a leadership hierarchy. Expect the worst until we network and organize.
Without structure, there can be no discipline or decent public image.
>>73553115
>the vaginal jew is corrupting the pure and innocent you
expected it to happen at some point
>>73553115
>antidemocratic
Read Hoppe u fag
>>73553115
Bullshit. You don't go back, you only go further to the right. She's brainwashed him or she told him she'd leave unless he acted more "in" with popular culture.
>>73556785
>not using useful idiots
>letting useful idiots be used against you
>>73556908
There's no way they aren't informants. I mean the whole flat earth stuff, retarded paganism and feminism, they aren't right wing at all.
>>73556776
>14/88 isn't to my right, it's to my dumb.
You honestly sound no better than the OMG I CANT EVEN carl the cucks of the world.
Every group has its extreme radicals. Ignore them. You don't need to apologize for them or try to excuse them. You just ignore them.
Look at the cultural marxists and see how they've been able to successfully play the game. You never see them punch to the left. You never see progressive SJWs spending all their time shitting on antifa/communists/etc. And they've been able to gain control of the fucking country.
>>73557227
He's lying anon, you're being rused.
>>73556297
European man HAS stripped himself of his natural aristocrats. There aren't any leaders left--not real ones. Or the ones that exist aren't even the same species as the masses anymore. The group they are born to lead no longer exists. Unfortunately, this happened organically over hundreds of years, rather than how it happened in, say, China, with a mere decade of "cultural revolution". It's harder to undo what happened to us, while the Chinese are finding it easier to default back to Confucianism, because they never really evolved out of it.
Europeans are evolved now for a world in which they are the only technologically capable group on the planet, and in which their societies are virtually entirely white, or populated with a few brown serfs. That world is gone, and Europeans are now in an environment they spend the last 500 years developing ZERO adaptations to. It's not wonder they're dying.
>>73556960
watch this video >>73556908
NPI haters are trolls and idiots. They're cancer weakening the entire White movement.
>>73551289
Why do you keep pretending to be a oldfag? Why do you spend your time watching people rant on and on about things in youtube.
>>73557115
14/88ism is the second biggest enemy (after leftism) threatening White existence
>>73556776
Also, the fact that you even use the term "1488er" means you're a fucking shill.
Nobody fucking called them that before RamZ (and the Milo article) started using it just a little while ago. They were stormfags. If you're going to try this psyops bullshit, at least get the terminology right
>>73557238
associating with trash instead of taking it out to the curb
>>73557348
Your ID says "dilate x3"
This guy is brilliant.
I've avoided watching him until now because of his cringey chain smoking on camera.
He's what Molyneux would be if Molyneux were a real philosopher.
>>73557245
I agree
>>73557282
I'm not apologizing for them. If the subject comes up though, then yes, I'll say they're cancer. They are bad for our future survival.
>>73556936
Hitler was 32 when he joined the Nazi party. Consider the length of his ideological development.
>>73557486
So why aren't you able to just say "I don't associate or care about this group" and move on?
Why, even here on /pol/, do you spend the majority of your energy countersignaling "1488ers"?
>>73557401
I don't care who came up with the term. 14/88ers are shit, man. If you listen to the things RamZ says, he is not anti White at all, he's our friend.
Stop attacking him and I won't attack you, it's as simple as that.
Also, even if 14/88 is a psyop term (which hasn't been proved), that doesn't make everyone who uses it a member of the psyop conspiracy
>>73557348
The only ones making a fuss out of them are you faggots. They triggered ramzpaul and now he's made them bigger out to be then they actually are. Who exaclry are these 14/88ers? Name one. Richard spencer? David duke? Weev?
He's probably just maturing into somebody that isn't a fedora-tipper pushing an outdated ideology for the sake of being edgy.
He's probably realizing the importance of freedom, free markets, and true liberalism. He's becoming a proper Brit and looking to the gifts of HIS ancestors rather than the death-cult psychos from the continent.
>>73557589
see pic related
>>73557486
MW has probably fallen into another bout of depression and is going to kill himself.
>>73556597
>We need to show normies we're a group they can join.
We don't need the lukewarm normies unless you're naive enough to believe that we will accomplish anything through the democratic process
>>73557716
Nah he outgrew the autism of lolbertarianism many years ago.
$50 dollars says he's going to come out as a cuck and tell everyone that racism is wrong then disappear with a larger bank account never to be seen again.
>>73554260
>Scottish police who just told him they were watching him
so they admitted that they were his fans
>>73557589
They're a problem. I talk about it when they come up. Countersignaling against them is good.
I don't see why I'm wrong.
>>73557693
No actually assholes like Anglin attack the pro-White movement and everyone in it all the time for not being "pure" enough. They attacked RamZPaul for a very long time until he said anything about them.
>>73557679
You haven't even been able to make a single argument against them other than "REEE THIS STRAWMAN MAKES ME LOOK BAD!!!". Please bring me back some articles from Anglin and show me what's so absolutely disgusting about the stormfags.
I stand by what I said. RamZ is a faggot who spends more time inciting in-fighting in the alt-right than he does doing anything productive. That makes him a shit individual.
>>73557401
Thank you the term has always been stormfag. I think Milo called them that so Breitbart wouldn't drive traffic to Stormfront.
>>73557550
Can't argue with that. He did have a pretty strong core set of beliefs before he started attending the nazi meetings though. His beliefs became strengthened and broadened, he didn't just do a 180 like woes.
>>73557798
>thinking that pointlessly alienating even more people is a good idea
No
>>73557997
>I stand by what I said. RamZ is a faggot who spends more time inciting in-fighting in the alt-right than he does doing anything productive. That makes him a shit individual.
RamZ doesn't start fights, he ends them. Just like Trump, actually.
>>73558028
There's no evidence yet that Woes did a 180. We don't even know if he has changed his views in practice, or in principle.
>>73558046
We need young fanatics with nothing to lose that are willing to die for this and we won't get them if we moderate the message.
>>73557996
Okay, that's actually a valid argument about anglin.
But as you gathered from my posts, my beef is with infighting and purity spiraling in general. So that goes both ways. Which is why I'm for a live-and-let-live approach. There's no reason RamZ and Anglin can't both co-exist. RamZ can be more entry level and get the normies who would be turned off immediately jumping to the daily stormer, for example.
>>73558088
RamZ, pls
What did he mean by this?
>>73558164
if these young fanatics didn't fling shit at decent people like RamZPaul they'd be fine
Also, a lot of them are old as fuck. The media is happy when neo nazis grow their groups >>73555790
>>73558256
We'll find out. The arguments in this thread alone so that it could mean many different things.
>>73551902
At least its not an ecig. Vapers are the worst.
>>73558174
Why should anyone jump to the daily stormer at all its garbage.
>>73558160
See here >>73558256
It's not looking good
>>73558305
I'm hoping he doesn't do a 180
>>73557996
What's wrong with critizing people for not being pure enough? How is critizing people for wanting that any better? Ramz is just trying to divide the right
>>73557129
this
No one can replace Sam Francis.
>>73558164
Exactly. Each part of a movement serves its own purpose.
There are more moderate guys who do their best to sugar-coat things and not get too deep into it in order to appeal to normies. Likewise, there are the hardcore fanatics that counterbalance the moderates and prevent the overall group from being diluted in order to achieve mass appeal.
I'll go back to the conservative example I used before. There used to be all kinds of conservatives. But then they started purging the ones too far to the right. And now we're at the point where conservativism is dead and the conservatives left are all RINO neocons and fags at the NRO who might as well be SJWs who also like free trade. That's what happens when you don't have radicals to counterbalance the people who want to moderate.
>>73558372
no, the people in the right attacking others are stormfags
Richard Spencer and RamZ don't spend time attacking the stormfags, but they get attacked by the stormfags all the time
Same with Jared Taylor
>>73558285
These internet squabbles are just stupid. I'm talking more about the struggle in Europe since that's the front line right now
Europe needs a young, white counter-fanaticism that can go against Islam and normies will be useless for this. Europe needs young, white fanatics that will be willing to potentially blow themselves up in order to take out large numbers of their enemies and normies will never do this
>>73558508
This, Stormfags are fucking retards and are only detrimental to the right as a whole.
>>73558508
Nah. These "stormfags" are just memes. They're not real. You fell for it. You're a cuck. Show me a pic of these oh so scary 14/88ers hat are ruining the image. You've been trolled. Ramz is cashing in on YouTube drama
>>73558508
Richard Spencer doesn't spend half his time shit-talking stormfags. The issue isn't that you "fight back", it's that you have basically dedicated your career to countersignaling the alt right. The key problem is one of magnitude. By spending so much time with this buttflustered attack dog shit, all you do is tear the group apart.
And I see you're picking up on the terminology. That's good.
>>73549707
He got his first kiss
this is why Hitler said people shouldn't go into politics publicly until they were at least 30.
If you take a hard stand at too young of an age you usually end up looking like an idiot after you inevitably shift positions
>>73558678
Nice try, shlomo
>>73558590
This goy gets it. Although I'm not big on the whole allahu akbar thing.
>>73558353
I've taken issue with the Alt-Right of the last two years. I was originally brought in via Jonathan Bowden, and the usually course of late 19th and early 20th century writers--Nietzsche, Evola, Guenon, more contemporary figures like Hoppe. Sunic, and Soral.
There have been noticeable changes in recent years on pol, and elsewhere. The nature of the conversation if changing for the worse in many ways, and yet we're seeing some somewhat promising political developments in some countries. I think there are many people on the right with vastly differing views, despite all agreeing that the status quo is unsustainable and destructive. I have a feeling that certain groups are more aware of these divides that others, and it will all have to be fleshed out.
>>73558684
Leave RamZ alone to his strawman
>>73558762
Woes is like 32 or 33 lmfao
>>73558590
the stormfags I'm talking about are keyboard warriors, mostly, and they shit all over Taylor and RamZ and Spencer with no provocation.
Respectful, smart NS who don't attack NPI as "kosher" all the time are fine. The assholes who punch their fellow nationalists all the time are disgusting and need to be called out.
Not all NS are shitty. Some are good people
>>73558684
Not scary, just cancerously stupid and bad looking. How am I a cuck?
>>73558678
Keep in mind people, the stormfags are the ones who attack others, almost constantly. RamZ never spent his time countersignalling before he got attacked by tons and tons of dumb stormfags
this is a good resource on the topic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEgHqBcPuEg
>>73558710
look the bottom line is that stormfags attack Spencer, they attack Taylor, they attack NPI and Amren and Millennial Woes and everyone else.
countersignalling against them is not punching right, it's punching stupid.
Imagine if liberal progressives were constantly apologizing for their dindus and beaner cartels. No, they enable and weaponize them.
>>73549707
Literally who?
>>73557679
>If you listen to the things RamZ says, he is not anti White at all, he's our friend.
I hesitate to shit on you freind, but you have 42 posts ITT and most of them are really sappy, shill-sounding Ramzpaul fanboy posts like this.
>Ramz is our friend
>Reamz is right
>14/88s are the cancer
>the cancer, really, the cancer
What triggers me, is that you aren't speaking constructively about how to turn these "cancers" into something more productive. Just telling us over and over who to shun and cut out with a bunch fo emotional arguments. Also, and most especially, you're encouraging everyone on top of this division message, to be hyper-sensitive to how the Left and mainstream JUDGES us. That contradicts almost everything we believe. We're not here to apologize and win popularity contests by REINFORCING the assumptions, and fears, and views that normies already have. We're here to defeat those views, and in the process, win people to the side of the winners. Whether we win by logic and facts, or shows of authority and strength, we don't need to be trying to win pats on the head.
Pats on the head shills are the biggest cancers. If you truly mean well, you need to be aware that "moderation shills" are almost always called out for being a classic forum shill tactic. Maybe you need to reconsider what you're advocating and why, and if you could be using a more constructive approach. Exclusion and factionalism isn't a positive influence.
>>73558473
I bet ol' Stevie did a huge rail before that picture
>>73558916
it's not the same thing, because people think their dindus and mexicunts are justified in their behavior.
Actually SJWs are the group that a lot of moderate lefties are countersignaling against and it is in their interest to keep doing that.
I've never listened to him before now, but I think this video was a horrible idea.
>13:02 - >
maxcring
>>73553115
holy shit pussy whipped, leave it to a fucking european to give up their manhood and attribute their sadness to their "mean opinions," all u have to do is LOVE your HATE and to hell with the linguistic fascist niggers who tell you that you're bad and your hatred is wrong and bad, fuck these thought police niggers
>>73559001
>What triggers me, is that you aren't speaking constructively about how to turn these "cancers" into something more productive. Just telling us over and over who to shun and cut out with a bunch fo emotional arguments. Also, and most especially, you're encouraging everyone on top of this division message, to be hyper-sensitive to how the Left and mainstream JUDGES us. That contradicts almost everything we believe. We're not here to apologize and win popularity contests by REINFORCING the assumptions, and fears, and views that normies already have. We're here to defeat those views, and in the process, win people to the side of the winners. Whether we win by logic and facts, or shows of authority and strength, we don't need to be trying to win pats on the head.
you don't fucking get it do you
The ADL and SPLC are licking their lips in anticipation of being able to paint us as crazed neo nutzis. They want it. A lot of the hardcore 14/88 nuts are probably secretly antifa.
>>73559061
>it's not the same thing
I told you to imagine, dipshit.
>>73558882
You need to have some perspective. You're mad that your shadowy stormfag strawmen (who are mostly satirical twitter/youtube accounts anyway) deliver banter against you.
Complaining about the fucking comments section making fun of you is the lowest form of argumentation. It's no excuse to dedicate half your videos countersignaling. It'd be like if I made a thread complaining about racial slurs on /pol/ and all the replies just called me nigger, and so I get mad and start making more and more threads dedicated to telling people to stop saying nigger. It's the dumbest shit I've ever heard.
>>73549707
>What is he refusing to tell us?
He is a weak cunt. HARDEN THE FUCK UP. I say this to everyone. No, I'm not some IQ or body gifted Chad, just some 39 year old faggot with a Ms. Chm Eng for education and a do not give 2 fucks attitude. The HR department doesn't give a fuck about you, so tell them to fuck off. Nobody gives a fuck tell them too. Then grab an extra 60oz whisky, and sober up over 3 -4 days while still shitting on everyone. I'm in day 4 of the program right now, totally cool except everything but my rifle keeps screaming durka durka at me....gotta jew fast
>>73559149
thing is man the hard left never spends its time attacking the moderate left, they only attack the right
the 14/88ers spend tons of time attacking fellow nationalists.
>>73558684
Stormfags exist, they're controlled opposition and very often are Jews.
>>73559160
Neo nazis are the main reason the average White person is scared of pro-White politics. Every White person is afraid of being seen as a neo nazi.
Why? Because neo nazis are shit, are horrible. We need to slay the neonazi beast before we can get anywhere. The Alt right is not neo nutzi and will never be.
>>73559160
The most die hard communists always supported the milquetoast socialists until they actually achieved power. They didn't shoot spitballs at them, and insult them for everyone to see. SJW videos have right wing critics. Right wingers have SJW, and futher right wing critics.
>>73559275
this post is spot on
>>73559275
This , it's been a JIDF tactic for a long time just here on /pol/
>>73559141
You are a fucking cuck if the thing you care the most about is what the fucking ADL will think of you.
Fuck. Off.
Look, I understand if *you personally* don't want to get labeled a racist by the SPLC (which you already have, iirc). But you do not need to drag down the entire group in order to fit the image you want for yourself. You are free to make moderate videos. You will get called out for being a subservient little bitch for bowing down to the leftists, but that is what you choose. You don't need to throw everyone who doesn't bow down to the SPLC under the bus
>>73558784
How is the conversation being changed for the worse?
To me it looks like the some of the shit we talk about is starting to make it into the mainstream.
go find out if jews fund neo nazis
ask yourself why
Fuck off with your unknown e-celeb drama you retarded cunt.
>>73559275
>Stormfags exist, they're controlled opposition and very often are Jews.
100% spot on, they've even started using feral jewesses.
>>73559422
The ADL has massive power. They know their power increases the more "evil nazis" they can pretend exist.
They get their rich, fat kike donors to give them millions to fight "nazis". They need pictures of scary people with swastikas to keep their cashfund flowing.
You're just helping them imo.
The SPLC wants to be able to paint Spencer as a crazy racist, so they call him "charming but dangerous" or "a suit and tie nazi" in desperation.
Wake up man
>>73559356
That's not even true. You see moderately left wing people get thrown under the bus for not being progressive.
And you never see the left punch further to the left. But everyone on the right scramples to throw those further to the right under the bus so they can smugly proclaim not to be racist.
>>73559269
They have a different persepective all together. Who cares if they get attacked. Instead of calling them cancer, why don't you explain why they are wrong or interpret their emotions in your favor like the left does for dindus. The left have integrated all of their outsiders for decades and now whites must do the same.
>>73559584
14/88 faggots aren't to my right, they're to my dumb
>>73556908
Doesn't that mean they are punching left then? From their point of view.
They're still retarded because National Socialism didn't work, same as Communism. We need something new.
>>73559591
Dindus and Mexicans don't spend a huge amount of time attacking White leftists. Actually in leftist discourse, the White liberal cucks are extremely dominant.
The SPLC publishes stories about "the alt right being in disarray" all the time. Makes them happy. 14/88ers are always the first to attack their fellow rightwingers, too.
>>73558882
Can you show me these "14/88" guys? Give me an example of a few? Some that are serious and not just trolling twitter for a reaction?
>>73558882
You're not necessarily wrong but you miss a major point, Evola was significantly to the right of Mussolini during the Italian fascist Era, who criticized him regularly. If anything it helps the movement by keeping balance. People will always attack others for their beliefs, regardless of how close they are ideologically. If you want to be that idealistic about basic human behavior I suggest you belong on the left.
Ramz Paul specifically cucked hard and fell for the meme of these neonazi try-hards running around telling everyone that if they aren't exactly Hitler their a cucked jew.
>>73559568
You're no better than the cucks in the GOP who care more about looking respectable than they do about actually lobbying for conservative interests.
And get this communistic bullshit out of here. You are your own person. Spread your moderate message as you please. But you're a fucking Uncle Tom piece of shit if you spend your time lampooning those to the right of you and then bringing it back to the SPLC while wagging your tail and asking if you did good enough to receive a fucking biscuit.
>>73559343
Maybe you guys are discouraged because you're confused?
Did Milo tell you that you need to come to /pol/ to slay nazis and people who post images of Hitler because this is the pro-jew alt-right HQ?
>>73559449
The conversation is being forced to conform to existing mainstream, or at least established factions. So the intellectual groundwork that actually vitalizes the right is often at odds with many anti-leftist factions that have entered the conversation. It is impossible for libertarians to absorb illiberal and hierarchical ideas. 14/88ers find it hard to stomache ANYTHING that isn't overtly volkish and frankly a little larpy. The paleocons can't give up on democracy. The right was never backed by a single, dominating ideology like the left was with Marxism, and there are simply too many mutually exclusive positions for real world cooperation to ever coalesce.
>>73559568
he's gay
>it's kind of like
>you know
>its just kind of
>i think generally
>it's almost as if
>you know
>I almost think we could say
>>73559584
To be honest, there is nothing wrong with purging the 14/88 LARPers.
They serve no purpose. They won't red-pill anyone and only serve to alienate people who might otherwise be sympathetic to your cause. Not to mention that they attack those on the right who see through their autism.
>>73559833
The main thing I want people to remember is that 14/88=/=rightwing, and that stormfags always punch their fellow rightwingers out.
Whether they are more or less rightwing is up for debate, I say no way.
>>73559897
Leftists don't go around with "Stalin did nothing wrong" and USSR memes.
>>73559899
Our views were already around before Milo was talked about on here.
>>73556908
I hate Sinead
>>73557115
What is this from?
>>73559961
also they're not all larpers, some of them really believe that NPI is an arm of Zionist power in America.
They're beyond dumb and think everyone who doesn't agree with them is a Jew.
>>73560053
everyone with a brain despises that bitch
