Thanks feminism!!
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/10/nyregion/bartenders-cant-refuse-pregnant-women-alcohol-new-york-city-says.html
C'mon it's 2016
Why aren't you having kids born with Fetal Alcohol Syndrome
kek, enjoy your birth defected baby bitch.
>>73549584
Just refuse on a different reason.
She's not abiding by the dress code.
Make your dress code prohibit maternity wear.
>ban large sodas
>force bartenders to serve pregnant women
Libfag logic
>>73549584
>I'm drinking for two
Also, isn't it illegal to serve minors? that should be enough
Just let the libs slowly die out... it's not like their children will live happy lives anyways and now they'll be born incompetents. The cycle seals itself in.
>>73549869
kek
>>73549670
>yfw the bar will be responsible for babby's birth defects and have to pay for Special Care
>>73549584
Every fucking day i see new degeneracy, each worse than the last.
Armageddon when?
If we didn't pay for all the retard babies I really wouldn't care.
>>73549584
Spread this on normiebook please.
>>73549584
>>73551276
These aren't mutually exclusive, both are correct. Deal with it. Who is the bartender to discriminate against a woman having a drink? He's not her fucking babysitter.
Cant refuse service but you can get the order wrong since mistakes happen. Just keep serving her non alcoholic shit until she takes the fucking hint.
>>73549584
Here's your beer, enjoy your retarded baby.
>While covered entities may attempt to justify certain categorical exclusions based on maternal or fetal safety, using safety as a pretext for discrimination or as a way to reinforce traditional gender norms or stereotypes is unlawful
jej
>>73550340
Some jew lawyer is going to bring a lawsuit on that theory.
"My client's hormones were out of balance when she asked for that drink and the bartender should have known that she couldn't have consented to ordering in that hormonal state."
>>73551436
>serve the customer something they didn't order
Great fucking business there.
>>73551436
Bartenders also have a legal obligation to refuse drinks to people they believe to be intoxicated, so that's another way around this retarded new law.
>>73551426
No he isn't, The state just will be when she gives birth to her retard child. Stop being autistic leaf.
>>73551593
That's fucking stupid. The law literally protects the goddam bartender. Hell, sometimes you can't even tell a fucking woman is pregnant. If it was illegal to serve a pregnant woman alcohol some lady that's been pregnant for a month may not appear pregnant can give birth as a result of the drinking to a deformed baby and sue the fucking bar.
What the fuck is up with /pol/ these days.
>>73549584
I'm sure women are ok with having retarded / disabled babies since it brings them attention and more power over the kid
>>73551593
Whats sad is that you really aren't even sort of kind of wrong. It WILL happen.
>>73551737
You're a moron and you're probably fat.
>leaf
>autistic
Good one, you fucking unoriginal, vapid cunt.
>>73549584
>NYC will just be miles and miles of transgender FAS babies roaming designated pissing streets in the near future
Thanks liberals.
LOL
aren't bartenders liable if they overserve someone and then knowingly let them drive?
I agree with the principal of letting people do what they want. However, drinking while planning on having a baby can be very irresponsible and endangers a potential human being.
>>73551798
Plus they can talk about it on Facebook and come up with catchy hashtags like #DifferentNotDisabled and shit like that.
>females
There's a reason our ancestors kept them on a tight leash.
>While covered entities may attempt to justify certain categorical exclusions based on maternal or fetal safety, using safety as a pretext for discrimination or as a way to reinforce traditional gender norms or stereotypes is unlawful
>using safety as a pretext for discrimination
you're not allowed to be safe if it hurts someone's feefees
>as a way to reinforce traditional gender norms or stereotypes
like giving birth? ffs
>>73551630
As someone who owns a fairly successful food chain I can tell you one thing. The customer isn't always right, and they're usually fucking stupid. Losing a handful of customers over something like that isn't really a big deal. No one gives a shit if some pissed off alcoholic no longer dines at their establishment.
>>73551426
So what? It's a private establishment. Why do her rights trump his? She's the one demanding a service.
>>73551630
People do weird shit to get around things that compromises their moral compass. Deliberately fucking up a small percentage of customers who are there against the better interests of their future kid shouldnt hurt a business too bad unless it blows up like that fag marriage cake story out of Colorado or whatever.
>>73552082
Liberals believe life doesn't begin until birth. Until then it is the mother's property.
Professional Bartender (USBG, IBA, Etc.) here, working in Houston, TX.
In the state of TX, Bartenders have the unequivocal right to refuse service for any reason at any time, to the point that I can serve you a drink, then you pay for it, and then I can take it away with no refund for any reason. I can refuse service just because I don't like your hat and I am totally legally protected.
The caveat is that we are also personally liable for over-service leading to injury. So the tradeoff is that if I get you drunk and you go kill someone, I can go to Jail. Which is why I don't do that.
In Texas bartenders have to get a TABC license, which is an additional set of legal protections for the Bartender and the Owner, but also a set of additional liabilities for the Bartender.
>>73552045
wake me up
>>73551749
>If it was illegal to serve a pregnant woman alcohol....
I agree, but that's not the law. There was no law in place prior to this, nor was there talk of making it illegal to serve pregnant women. This is about the absurdity of the government mandating a positive obligation on an establishment to serve a pregnant women. This in no way protects the bartender any more than the existence of no law would.
>>73552045
what subreddit is this. i need to go blow these faggots the fuck out
>>73549584
Why are women so irresponsible with an unborn child already?
Natural selection at work.
>>73552246
before you go go
>>73552133
If he isn't read to accept the laws of running an establishment (including non-discrimination) maybe the owner shouldn't be running a bar at all.
>but muh state rights
>muh join or die
>taxatation is theft
Fuck off.
mfw private businesses will soon have FAS quotas
>>73552133
It's child abuse
>>73552045
>it's another women run to the government to make a new law to protect their ability to be a drain on society episode
>>73552274
what will that even accomplish?
why don't you better go and study law or sth
>>73552424
Refute any of those things.
Also, that was the shittiest inb4 I've ever witnessed.
>>73549584
I used to think women shouldn't be allowed around children.
Now I know they should not even be allowed around children before they are born.
>>73552382
>Natural selection at work.
Except it's not because these women will pass on their genetic material and the offspring will be artificially allowed to grow to maturity and have the potential to pass on their genetic material.
>>73549584
its 2016 i would kill myself if my wifes son was neurotypical cisgender
>>73552045
I'm done with this shitty earth. Where's the quit button?
It's not the bartender's responsibility to ensure pregnant women aren't drinking alcohol. It's her decision if she wants to have a retarded baby down the line.
>>73552424
Canada, everyone. A. Fucking. Leaf.
Can't they refuse service for whatever reason they want?
>>73552211
>The caveat is that we are also personally liable for over-service leading to injury.
that is complete fucking bullshit. Unless you held them down and poured the drinks down their throat, what your customers do is their responsibility, not yours.
>>73552693
>It's not the bartender's responsibility to ensure pregnant women aren't drinking alcohol.
Right, but it's also should not be the bartender's legal obligation to ensure that pregnant women are drinking alcohol if they so chose.
>>73549584
Whoa, whoa, whoa. You have to make up your mind here. Youre inplying you want bartenders to have the power to refuse a pregnant woman alcohol. But my bet is that you probably scream for autonomy and personal responsibility. So which do you want? A bartender deciding whats best for a pregnant patron, or a patron making her own decisions?
You cant have it both ways, friend.
>>73552751
Depends on the state. You can't discriminate based on some things, but there's always a way around it. You can just refuse to serve them for another reason.
>>73552693
It's not anyone's duty to trade their property with others.
>>73549584
More stupid voters strategy.
>>73551276
>caring about birth defects is ableist, shitlord.
actual argument i've heard from a lot of people about the zika virus
>>73549584
Ive read (on /pol/ so I dont know if true) that some hardcore feminists drink alcohol intentionally if having a boy
anyway PC bullshit has gone too far
>>73551426
So then our tax dollars go to it being a welfare sponge the rest of its worthless life
>>73552774
It was the legal tradeoff for absolute right to refuse service, and the only prosecutions on that law have been what is called "gross overservice" which is like giving someone 20 shots in two hours. There is no grey area in something like that. They never bring it up for general DUI or drunk driving accidents if the amount consumed could be construed as "reasonable to serve"
Basically in order to get in trouble you have to give someone alcohol poisoning.
>>73552211
Based Texas of reason
>>73552853
Bodily autonomy might come into play if we were talking about banning women from drinking. But we're not talking about that - this new law doesn't mean that a woman can now give her baby foetal alcohol syndrome if she wants to (she could do that already), what it means that now the bartender has to help her, which is an infringement on the bartender and the business' rights.
>>73552853
>You cant have it both ways, friend.
Shouldn't a bartender or business owner also have the autonomy to refuse to serve a drink? Why must his autonomous business decisions in a privately-owned establishment be the subject of federal or state discrimination investigations and regulations?
>>73552424
What? He isn't refusing to serve her because he's discrimination against pregnant people, he would refuse to serve her because it's dangerous. The same way you would refuse to serve someone who's already past their limit, because it would be dangerous for them to consume more alcohol.
Women keep thinking that alcohol is a guilt free way of getting out of aborting a baby.
Sadly it doesn't work well.
>>73552947
how is that thing going down in huehuehueland. I from what I read online it is either just a freak accident or it is the end of the world and nobody will be able to have kids anywhere
>>73549584
>Bartenders can't refuse pregnant women alcohol.
LOL! Prepare for an entire new generation of picrelated
>>73551586
Age discrimination... we should be serving little johnny too!
>>73552774
Not in America. Bartenders can be legally held accountable if they serve someone alcohol and then said person kills someone in a DUI accident. It's not just their responsibility, the bartender can get royally fucked for someone else's actions.
>>73553190
Nanny state! Nanny state!
>>73552853
You're fucking dumb desu. A business should always be allowed to refuse a good or service based for any reason and I don't see how this goes against autonomy and personal responsibility when the business owner is the one making the choice of who can have their product.
>New York
Everyone there is already retarded.
>>73551426
according to this>>73552211 bartenders are liable if they serve alcohol that they know will result in damaging people. so the bartender wouldn't be discriminating, they would be protecting themselves.
>>73550762
it's a world wide social experiment.
we are currently playing ''how low can you go'' so just sit back and enjoy the ride
>>73553292
That isn't true in many states, its split about 50/50 on the personal liability for overservice in some form.
>>73553161
So a business owner can refuse you service
> to protect you from yourself?
Got it
>>73552965
Show me some caps.
I wanna get mad.
>>73553249
>MaisieWilliams.jpg
KEK
>>73549584
Is this feminism too?
>>73551389
>>73551864
People like you give the other leafbros a bad name.
>>73549829
Nice strawman.
FAS kids might not be so bad
>>73549584
Bout to be a whole new generation of micks in New York.
Finally.
>>73552211
Won't matter if Supreme Court says it's sex discrimination.
>>73553433
Should a gun owner be legally obliged to see a gun to someone they suspect might be suicidal or murderous?
>n-n-n-no that's different
No it isn't :)
>>73553416
You're right, but it's the same concept. Even though I don't really give a shit if some stupid bitch poisons her kid, I'd rather not be the one that has to give her the poison or face discrimination charges.
>>73549584
thanks deblasio
>>73553433
It's his business. He should be allowed to refuse service of anyone for any reason. This is just yet another instance of the government sticking it's nose where it doesn't belong.
>>73552693
cept she can also apply for benefits for the child, meaning she will get money while other people take care of her kid.
Or she gives it up for adoption which is even more money from our taxes.
>>73551630
Any woman with alcoholism rampant enough to drink during pregnancy can get the fuck out of my bar. I would hope she tells her friends too, I don't want retards in my bar, either.
Should be an automatic 5 year sentence for drinking/smoking/drugs during pregnancy. Just abort the thing if you don't want it you stupid fucking whore, instead of shitting up another persons entire life.
>>73553351
As to if I'd be liable for serving a pregnant mother resulting in damage has never been tested in court, and likely never will. Personally I'd serve a pregnant woman a drink, but only one, if she asked for one, as I don't believe that one drink could possibly do serious or lasting harm given the science involved, but I certainly wouldn't let a pregnant lady get shithoused at my bar, it's just a bad look all around.
This all being said, I have in my 10 years of Bartending never had a pregnant lady ask for anything but maybe a half glass of wine.
>>73552507
Hopefully it will all come to an end soon. The Japanese will invent artificial wombs and robot nannies if the Jews don't destroy them first.
>dont want to do something against my conscience
>Jonas Brothers might boycott my state if I dont
>>73553533
They won't, not the way it's split right now. They're not refusing to serve alochol to that person because they're a woman. They're refusing to serve alcohol to that person because it is harming the kid inside of them.
>>73551864
>No argument
>right to insults
The endgame of every debate with a libtard, every time.
>>73553066
still could just have the right to refuse service, and no liability. I admit i'm not familiar with the specific laws in Britain, but as far as I'm aware that's how things work here. I've never heard of bartenders being prosecuted here, and pub owners are famously allowed to be as dickish as they like about who they refuse service to (provided they don't base their decision on race, sex or religion, but since they're not legally obliged to give a reason they're okay so long as they don't hang a sign on the door saying 'no chicks, no darkies, no muslims')
http://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/Legal/Licensing-law/Pub-licensee-s-right-to-reject-custom
>>73553599
If businesses had it your way the Irish would still be jobless.
>>73549658
This has been a rule for awhile if not a law. At least in washington. I worked as a bartender and had some very pregnant trash come in and start ordering shots of jack. I was pretty new at the time so I called up my manager telling her I really did not feel comfortable serving this lady. She basically told me to come up with another reason to cut her off because her being pregnant isn't a legal reason to refuse service of alcohol.
I think I cut her off after two on the grounds that she drove herself there and intended to drive home. She was still really bitchy about it, (trash people always yell and make a scene when they don't get what they want). But there wasn't anything she could do about it so she just yelled at me for awhile and then left.
That was 6 or 7 years ago.
Bartenders (the good ones) are basically experts at coming up with reasons to not serve the people they don't want in the bar. Their job is to keep an environment that appeals to the regulars and that often times means subtly discouraging the 'wrong sort' of folks from hanging out or coming back. This is just another hurdle but I'm sure they'll get around it the same way they get over, around or under all the others.
>>73552045
>>73553851
That's a very cynical way to look at the world, considering the US government was the biggest purveyor of discriminatory policy, not the American people themselves.
>>73549584
Abortion may become illegal... BUT ALCOHOL'S NOT!!! Who wants MARTINI'S!!!
>>73551864
You didn't even address his point you pussing vaginal belch.
What right do these cunts have to birth retards the rest of us have to pay for in taxes? Drinking/drug taking while pregnant should have the same penalties as child abuse, including loss of custody.
>>73549584
ITS THE WOMAN'S BODY YOU CAN'T TELL HER WHAT TO DO WITH IT!!!
lol
And the liberals recoil in horror of the thought of a pregnant woman drinking, but will cheer that same woman on as she gets an abortion.
>>73552045
>>73553649
So basically one sip of wine is worse than a kid not having a mother for the first 5 years of its life as well as any of its siblings having to deal with the same absence and probably also the stigma of having a parent in prison. Wow amazing ideas there bud.
>>73554016
>US government
>not the American people
That's the same fuckin thing. You know that, right? I hope you do, anyway.
>>73553800
I'm actually a fan of the liability laws, as a professional bartender, keeps the idiots generally out of the field at the better, more well paying joints. Now personally I'd love 0 legal liability, but generally when I cut someone off its due to moral reasons not legal reasons, I don't want anyone hurting themselves or others cause I gave them an extra drink and made a fiver.
I, no shit, once called the cops on myself because I had a guy whos wife just died come into my bar, I made him promise he was taking a cab, and proceeded to get him drunk as a sailor. He got angry at nothing a few hours later, flipped me the bird, and pulled out car keys he swore he didn't had.
Now this guy was really, really, really drunk, so I told him that if he got in his car I was gonna call the cops, he got in, I took a shot of his plate, and called the cops on myself for overservice.
Long story short, they drunktanked him with no charges because, well, his wife had just died, and told me that I did the right thing and that there would never be charges based on self-reporting, they'd rather catch the drunk than ding us.
But yea, there is the legal aspect to what I do, but most of the time I cut people off for drunken behavior because they are either bothering my customers or I have a moral obligation to prevent harm.
>>73554220
>strawmanning this hard
And in fact, yeah. Fuck her she should have thought of that before drinking/smoking/drugging while pregnant. Why are women somehow immune from the consequences of their actions?
The great purge, fucking when?!
>>73549869
A fetus isn't a baby shitlord
>Private businesses can't choose who to serve
BIG GOVERNMENT GET OUT REEEEEEE
>>73553800
See, we don't have to even state a reason of refusal here. The right to refuse is absolute and inviolable.
If the bartender refuses to serve, and his owner demands he serves that person, the owner is now utterly and totally fucked in court. Among the professional class of bartenders, an owner not backing you up on a cutoff is something you quit on the spot for, and in fact, sue him for.
>>73553649
So you think causing forms of physical harm to a fetus is wrong, but ending its life is acceptable?
I'm not saying "prolife" or "prochoice" or that. I'm just saying that aborting a fetus is more severe than drinking/smoking/drugs that indirectly affect it.
>>73549584
PURGE
EVERYTHING
>>73549584
whats funny is their kid will come out with huge deformities and then they'll blame vaccines
>>73553515
thats not even a strawman, Bloomberg banned soda's over 20oz to somehow reduce obesity.
People just bought two 16oz sodas and got way around it
>>73555145
The battle over the morality of abortion is long over. But it's certainly immoral to deliberately carry a child to term and make them live a life as a retard. It's also something that burdens the rest of us (while abortion does not).
>>73552045
What absolutely horrible people
>>73554685
Also, cutting people off is arguably the hardest skill to learn as a bartender. The wrong way to do it is "YOU'RE DRUNK GET OUT".
Kill them with kindness and only escalate if they argue. So "Hey man, I think that's enough for the night" takes care of 99% of cases.
Also, Pro-tip: not one swinging dick in history has ever been un-cut-off because they yelled at the bartender.
My favorite cutoff so far was this drunk old asshole, was creeping people out so I cut him off, he got froggy and demanded to see a manager, I told him I was the manager and I am now asking him to leave, he of course, said he wants to talk to the owner and he's gonna get me fired. I said "Sir, I'm the manager, the owner, and everything else, as far as you are concerned I'm the voice of fucking God." Snatched his drink, and waved over the doorguy.
Now, my doorguy is the sweetest guy you've ever met, a total gentleman, but he's also 6'4" 210lbs and black, so the minute he saw this dude walking up he was suddenly all smiles and cordialities.
Long story short, if I have to call my doorguy over to get you out, you're a true asshole.
Another time I had a dude take a swing at my doorguy, and before I could even get over the bar he was decked and being dragged out to the street like a ragdoll, to the laughter of the crowd and the delight of our local police.
Unwritten law: the cops will always take our side.
>>73555145
I would rather it be aborted than forced to live as a fucking retard.
>>73552045
>>73554537
? Thats how its been since the civil rights
My mom's a liberal fuck, but at least she wasn't this retarded.
Where will we be five years from now?
>>73549584
Well, I think this law is BS BUT there is some devil's advocate to play here.
First of all, drinking a glass or two of wine won't hurt your baby during its second or third trimester, it will literally have no effect. In fact I'm pretty sure increased consumption alcohol will have no lasting effect on a baby in its third trimester. So an eight month pregnant woman having a glass or two of wine during dinner is perfectly ok, so there are perfectly legitimate instances of serving a woman a drink.
The greatest damage you can do to an unborn baby is drinking during the first trimester... which ironically is also the trimester most women don't they are pregnant or can't even know they are pregnant.
But with all that being said a bartender should have the right to refuse service to a woman he/she knows is pregnant. I don't fucking know how responsible that woman is, if she wants to poison her baby she can do it on her own fruition.
>>73554344
This is the America I know and love. Living life bounded loosely on all sides by the law, but filling in the vast expanse of grey area in between with moral decency and common sense. I pray that one day we find ourselves back to this place.
>>73555839
I'm hoping that sooner rather than later this entire fucking joke of a society will fall in on itself or some big fucking disaster needs to happen again to wake people up.
>>73549584
JUST
>>73549670
enjoy picking up the tab for her childs disability benefits
>>73556022
It's all ogre now
>>73555917
We call this "night law" in the industry. There are the daylaws on the books, and we make efforts to do our best with those, but the bar industry has always and will always operate in the space between what is law and what is right. It's a strange, strange place to make a career but I will send my kids to college off of serving hooch, so you can at least make a good living if you straddle that line right and make a name for yourself as a talented guy.
>>73554685
>The right to refuse is absolute and inviolable.
If you refused alcohol to faggots, there'd be hell to pay.
Meh, who cares? If you're about nondiscrimination, then this is a no brainer. What if she's drinking to get the courage for her abortion?
It's not like we have socialized health care, and I don't live in NY so I don't give a fuck.
Only statists will have a problem with this. True free-market believing patriots see this as a win.
Get fuck commie scum, and go suck Obongo's dick since you love it.
>>73556286
Not in Texas, because I don't have to, at any time, give reason for refusal. The courts cannot compel me to state a reason, I am legally not even required to have a reason. Also why would I refuse gays? They spend money and tip well.
Honestly if you go out for a drink when pregnant you should just move into a trailer park right now
>>73556384
>True free-market believing patriots see this as a win.
How is the government forcing a private citizen to engage in a business transaction an example of the free-market?
>a child doesn't have the right to not become retarded, if at all possible
Libtards.
>>73556384
>Only statists will have a problem with this.
are you a fucking retard?
>>73549584
>MFW all the blue states turn their kids into retarded FAS trannies who don't breed, allowing conservatives an advantage over them.
>>73555274
>Bloomberg
>berg
Every fucking time.
>>73552045
fucking killed my buzz
>>73551426
You're not discriminating against the women you're protecting the unborn human who, if it had the ability to, would certainly not consent to be fed poison while it's still developing
>>73556546
Why can you refuse alcohol to gays but not cake?
And you're right: only blacks and fags leave a $5 tip on a $4 drink. Blows my mind.
What a time to be alive.
>>73557214
>blacks leave a tip
Wut
>>73556825
Doesn't asexual mean you aren't attracted to anyone?
>>73552045
It's time for a huge war.
damn this hellish era
>>73557347
When poorfag niggers are trying to look like ballers, they're surprisingly lavish.
>>73551364
Where is that from
>>73552045
the fucking mental gymnastics here
>>73557202
If a child doesn't want to be retarded, then he's an ableist (and probably a sexist and racist too) and thus deserves to be aborted or brain-damaged anyway.
>>73549670
You do realize that are women who intentionally try to have disabled children so they can collect disability and not have to worry about having a job for the next 18 years, right?
I've met several, unfortunately.
>>73557511
That actually makes sense.
Like when they have 300 dollar pants and ridiculous shoes
>>73554016
cry more faggot
>>73554288
>US Government
>American people
>same
>>73557214
Cake is not an intoxicating substance with substantial risk of injury to self or others if over-consumed in a short period.
So yea, I can refuse for any reason because I serve an intoxicating substance, they cannot because there is no personal liability to be had over selling cake.
>>73552045
reddit ladies and gentleman
>>73549584
Then don't not refuse them alcohol.
Instead say
>we don't serve pregnant women please leave.
>>73552045 >>73552246 >>73552274 >>73552460 >>73552665 >>73553895 >>73554200 >>73555370 >>73555516 >>73557172 >>73557482 >>73557597 >>73558356
Check the username. Apparently, it's some MRA, so it was probably satire.
>>73549584
Does anybody else just feel tired now whenever bullshit like this happens? I want refuse to believe this but I know it's true. I'm honestly losing confidence for the future as days go by because I know that it's only going to get worse. Sometimes I think about moving to Mexico so I can have actual problems.
>>73558764
>discrimination suit
>CNN, MSNBC, et al on you
>lose your business
>lose your wife
>lose your kids
>lose your house
>lose your dignity
>yfw alcohol babies is the new social issue
>yfw liberals are already spinning it as a women's rights issue
>yfw
>>73557428
No, it means you reproduce by budding.
>>73558895
Me too f a m. Me too.
>>73558928
If it comes to that ill just close down and move to another state. I dont live in new york anyway so fuck em.
>>73549584
fuck women
fuck new york
>>73558895
>moving to mexico
>ever
Otherwise, I know that feeling exactly.
>>73552045
And they say Hitler was wrong.
>>73559147
I heard that some parts of Mexico are relatively chill.
>>73558209
So if you want to refuse black people alcohol, you just claim you feared potential violence (if sued, of course).
I just don't understand why bakers are compelled to sell to any person who approaches them but bartenders magically get a veto. It's strange.
>>73552853
cant a bartender stop serving a customer if he/she is too drunk?
why shouldn't they legally be allowed to refuse alcohol to a pregnant woman in that case?
>>73549584
NEW YORK "VALUES"
>>73554049
In what world may abortion become illegal. Its time to start burning people like you at the stake.
>Incest raises the likelihood of birth defects by 2%
>Incest is illegal and a major taboo
>"There is no known safe amount of alcohol use during pregnancy or while trying to get pregnant." --CDC
>Drinking alcohol while pregnant is a human right
That's it. I'm done. I want off this ride right now.
>>73555203
Purge
Everything
>>73555538
That's the problem, syrupnigger
>>73551864
Come here so I can fucking kill you with my bare hands
>>73559574
7/10, would nut on that yuuuge lesbo dyke forehead
>>73559011
Abortion rights had to start in one state.
>>73559574
Go back to the Middle East
>>73559870
IT'S HAPPENING
NOW THEY'RE JUSTIFYING IT
>>73559278
No, I am immune from suit as I, in Texas, do not have to have a reason to refuse to serve alcohol, period. The court cannot demand I produce a reason, as I don't have to have one in the first place. An institution can be sued for refusing to let black people or gays or what have you in, but they cannot sue the bartender or the establishment for refusal of service once they are in the building.
And as I said above, we serve an intoxicating substance that if overindulged in a short period of time can be dangerous to the individual and the public, bakers do not.
>>73552382
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dybCYC0C7oM
>>73559976
tl:dr Alcohol is different than cake.
>>73559870
He's not advocating incest he's saying even at 2% it needs to be illegal. Can you imagine if 2 out of every hundred people was a retard?
>>73559870
I'm not supporting incest, you literal fucking retard. How many cases of wine did your mother go through before you were born?
>>73559976
But this wouldn't immunize you from a federal discrimination or investigation suit, right?
IE, if the DOJ could show that you pretty much only refuse to serve drinks to blacks, I don't know that your rights under Texas state law could completely shield you from liability under a Federal statutory discrimination claim.
>>73549584
This is a good thing. It's evolution. Mom dumb enough to drink when pregnant shouldn't have fit offspring to keep passing on her shitty genes anyhow.
>>73560352
>It's the woman that suffers.
Uh huh.
>>73560352
Liberalism is contaigous though, so it doesn't matter.
>>73549584
Culling of the herd baby
Once the gibs programs dry up anarchy will follow and the happening will begin in earnest. Bring it on
>>73549584
>“I looked forward to my Friday night margarita during each of my pregnancies, and I think they contributed to a happier, healthier pregnancy for both mom and baby,” wrote one New York Times commenter.
These are the same people that want to ban smoking because we have to pay for your healthcare
I personally would not serve her. Thankfully, I live in a based state that doesn't force me to serve gays if I don't want to.
>>73560537
>yfw 1 in 13 women admit to drinking while pregnant
>yfw among pregnant women, alcohol use is highest among those aged 35 to 44 (19 percent), college graduates (13 percent) and unmarried women (13 percent)
>>73560405
Evolution isn't always pleasant. If you want fairy tales where everything is always made fair in the end, check out theism.
>>73558895
Get sober. Take out the trash. Call your mother. If you feel overwhelmed, embrace it, but it will be over. You can and have done shit to better the situation. All generations rebel against the last, and it's already starting.
>yfw we live through a great wave of rebellion and destruction of hardcore leftism
>>73560882
Willing to bet the statistic skyrockets among women who aren't married to the father.
>>73560909
>he thinks society and law will let women suffer the consequences of their actions
Men are going to pay for this. Like everything else.
Aren't you allowed a glass of wine once or twice a month during pregnancy?
>>73560909
The kid is going to be born and we're going to pay for her fuckup when she just asks for free money. It's NY it's not hard to get services
>>73549584
>Be born
>Be autistic because your mother can't into restraining herself
Fuck.
>be pregnant
>know that if i drink alcohol baby could die
>do it anyway because I don't want to be repressed by men
>baby dies
Seems pretty straightforward to me. Let them learn. In no way would it be the bartenders fault if that's what you're implying.
>>73561083
>later she pumps bleach up your ass and burns out your intestinal lining to "cure" you
>>73555274
>>73557025
New Yorker here. He taxed the sodas. Didn't ban them. I don't know why more places won't do it. Diabetes is expensive. This is a way to pay, and prevent it
>>73561096
>Let them learn.
Careful. I don't think if their baby dies.
>>73552082
>I agree with the principal of letting people do what they want.
Me too, like letting bartenders refuse service because they want to
>>73549829
>Bloomberg is the same mayor as de blasio
>>73553144
>Dram shop laws
>Based
>>73561125
>get forced to have socialized medicine
>then get forced to pay for it
>hear a liberal use this circular logic
The drinking age is 21 years, not 21 fetal months.
>>73561191
Jew York City doesn't have city wide socialized medicine. That'd be fucking stupid. We have what everyone else has and that's Medicare and Medicaid
>>73559574
>"There is no known safe amount of alcohol use during pregnancy or while trying to get pregnant." --CDC
This seems somewhat misleading. There is a lack of evidence that a glass of wine a week vs no alcohol has a positive effect.
Studies that are inconclusive aren't published, but I guess you knew that already
>>73561125
>Treating Heroin addicts is expensive. Banning heroin is a way to pay, and prevent it
>>73561047
>>73561308
Why do you want babies to die so badly
>>73561316
Banning is the same as taxation?
>>73560097
He's from New York so as many as she could get her paws on probably.
>>73557525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIpkdusnIkE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY1H1rZL53I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCcp36n2cDg
>>73561355
A ban in degree. Th point still stands, just like cigarettes which exist in a legal/not legal limbo, a "grey" market will develop and serve the need.
>Letting people choose what they do is bad, there should be laws actively telling them what to do!
Your own worst enemy.
>>73561283
>He thinks he doesn't have Obamacare in NY.
k
Yet again, women fucking whined until they got what they wanted regardless of how destructive it is and men pulled the line because of their fucking dependency on pussy.
The only reason women want this shit is so when they do have a fucked up baby they can then sue the alcohol companies, sue the fucking bars, sue everybody on earth related to the alcohol. Followed by collecting government checks because "muh baby"
>Sister drinks like a fucking fish while knocked up.
>Family fucking supports her like dumb fucking assholes.
>I am the only one who tells her "you are gonna fuck up that kid before its even born with your god damn shit, why cant you just grow up, its one year without booze!"
>Everybody loses their shit, I get cast out.
>Fine by me I fucking hate my whore mother my cuck father my druggy brother and my slut drunk sister.
>She has the baby.
>I dont show up for the birth cause fuck them.
>Mom calls me.
>The baby is essentially FUCKED, premature, wont last.
>Go to the hospital.
>Wait for a doctor to come in.
>My sister starts to cry and I chime in.
Maybe if my entire family didn't enable her to drink so fucking much while she was pregnant she wouldn't be dealing with a dead baby right now.
>Doctor looks at me, he had no idea what was happening.
>My father tells me to get the fuck out.
DAD YOU ALLOWED HER TO DRINK LIKE A FISH WHILE UNDER YOUR ROOF! YOUR GRAND CHILD IS GOING TO DIE BECAUSE OF YOU! MOM! AND HER!
>Leave, said me peace.
>Mother screams "I hope you die!"
>Look back with a loving smile" dont worry, your grandchild will be dead before I even leave thanks to your whoreish ways.
>Sure enough baby does die before I leave.
>Sister commits Sudoku 1 month later.
>Father heart attacks shortly after.
>Mother whorish blows through his money until in the poor house with brother.
>Begging me for money.
>Laugh at them as they live in a home that reeks of piss "I snuck in on them once to laugh at them"
Women half the time, are just overgrown children.
If your political opponents want to kill their unborn babies, let them.
If your political opponents want to poison their unborn babies, let them.
>>73561125
they should make new yorkers wear monitoring braclets and chokers so that they can tax sex and porn use, sex std's and social withdrawl from porn *IS* expensive. This is a way to pay and prevent it.
>>73561191
>>73561316
>>73561353
>>73561430
>>73561487
Proof of diabetes filled liquids
>>73561436
She can choose to drink, the bartender can choose to say no
>>73561520
>some neckbeard took the time to write out this fake story
>>73561520
>>Doctor looks at me, he had no idea what was happening.
topkek
>>73552045
This is a troll.
>>73561520
Sorry about your family, btw.
>>73561308
>There is a lack of evidence that a glass of wine a week vs no alcohol has a positive effect.
Because it doesn't...? Because it has a negative effect instead...? And the two are mutually-exclusive...?
>>73557628
Dude, that's more trouble than it's worth. A lot of parents with disabled kids are barely scraping by.
Where is this world going?
>>73549584
We all know that people with true gifts are given those gifts from the time they're born. Sure, you can become a smart person, but if you're not born with a gift, you will never be truly gifted.
I wonder how many artists, musicians, geniuses, and so on have been murdered by abortion, never getting the chance to share their gift with the world.
All because their slut mom was too busy being hysterical about "HER BODY" and gave zero fucks about her baby's body.
>>73552045
https://youtu.be/dfyNnUgK8qE
>>73561520
Cathartic, but I don't think it's true.
Pics or it didn't happen.
>>73561771
Down a big toilet bowl
>>73552049
As a cashier at a grocery store, I'm fucking liable if I sell beer to someone drunk and they get into a car accident/ get alcohol poisoning
Why is it even legal for pregnant women to drink? Isn't it furnishing alcohol to a minor?
>>73561760
Okay. Point out the study that shows someone who drinks a glass of wine a week has long lasting negative effects on the baby.
Not heavy alcohol drinking, one glass a week
>>73562069
Liberal women have more rights than unborn babies. Check your privilege, babies.
>>73561658
Are you sure YOU don't have diabetes, my portly pal?
>>73549584
SO PROGRESSIVE
>>73562130
How about you point a study showing that people even drink that controlled?
>>73562130
Point out the study showing that people who drink only do it once a week.
>>73561520
Women ARE overgrown children. They are not meant to make decisions or have responsibilities. Their actions are governed by emotions and selfishness. They need to be disciplined and guided, like children. This is why civilizations inevitably move closer and closer to collapse the more and more important decisions they allow women to make.
>>73562130
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/early/2015/10/13/peds.2015-3113.full.pdf+html
I hope the wildfire gets you.
>>73549584
>New York
>a grown man can't buy a large soda because too much sugar is unhealthy
>but pregnant women can drink their fetuses to death or worse
I love how New Yorkers don't want you to have control over what you put into your body UNLESS it's something that harms babies. Then they love it.
good, let them sleep in the bed they've made for themselves
>>73549772
oooooh, that's creative, but I can see where some idiot would get offended, and start a twitter campaign and protest the shit out of you for shaming people for their clothes or something
