so i was thinking... who is mostly likely going to win the U.S. presidential election? not who you want but who, realistically, might win?
>>73537522
The Jews
well, hilldawg has had significantly lower amounts of votes vs the last time she ran
trump has more votes than bush did when he ran.
I'm guessing trump, unless something really bad happens
>>73537522
Hillary. She just has that smug attitude "it doesnt matter how I campaign since the shadow government has already secured my victory" like its all a big joke to her.
>>73537924
Everytime.
>>73537522
I'd say Trump if it's a fair election, but since voting is done through computers now, I'm betting the powers at be change about 20% of Trump's votes to either Hillary or Gary Johnson (to make it seem like it wasn't so obviously rigged) so she will win. That or Trump will end up killed like the Kennedy brothers or any of Hillary's previous political opponents
>>73537522
33% trump 66% hillary 1% other
>>73537522
Too early to tell. I just want to see Trump and Clinton step on a debate stage together and have Trump take off the gloves.
>>73538427
You are delusional
>>73537522
Trump
Donald Trump will win but it will not b easy. When the American public sees the juxtaposition between Trump and Clinton on the debate stage it will be hard to vote Hilary. Not even mentioning her declining health, I think on the debate stage she will look disheveled. Trump will bring a lot of independent voters and many democrats over. The number of dormant voters he has awakened cannot be ignored.
Trump.
Or we take to the streets.
Make no doubt about it, voter fraud will be taken very seriously in the general.
>>73538704
how
>>73539186
You're giving Trump more than 1%.
>>73537522
I hope it's Bernie, but it will most likely be Hillary. If Hillary wins the nomination then I will secretly hope Trump gets it just as a fucking middle finger to Hillary. I won't actually be able to tell anyone I know that I'm hoping for that. That would be like one of you /pol/tards coming out to your Stormfag friends as gay. But it will be my hope.
I want to believe Trump, but it will probably be shillery by a narrow margin
and then things get so much worse as the nation continues its steady decline.
>>73539278
>I want free stuff.
>>73539246
wanna bet at 100:1 or youre just shitposting?
>>73539497
>implying Sanders supporters don't realize it's paid for with taxes
If "free stuff" were real, who wouldn't want it? It isn't, though.
>>73537522
>Slow And Steady
Jebheads! Report In!
>>73537522
Trump
>>73539751
>Implying anyone would be motivated to work hard and achieve greatness if every aspect of their life is provided for them without effort.
>>73537522
Trump if Hillary isn't arrested.
Bernie if she is.
Hillary.
>whites 62% of the country
>whites are split between parties
>niggers and spics vote overwhelmingly democrat
Even if Trump wins this year, which he probably won't, in 8 years from then on it's democrat for life. There won't be enough whites to vote anything else. Rip in peace guns.
If the FBI is corrupt, Clinton.
If the FBI isn't corrupt, but is just slow enough, Trump.
If the FBI isn't corrupt/ and is fast enough, Sanders.
The election actually rests on the FBI's shoulders.
>>73540019
Trump is going to split the black and latino vote
hillary, the poor white vote only goes so far in the general. if she can get the latinos excited with her running mate its as good as over
>>73540176
lol
>>73540098
The FBI is actually based and one of the few government agencies that isn't actually corrupt, surprisingly
>>73540098
Clinton has no popular support at all. She is literally media hype. Trump is winning apoliticals.
Still to early to tell. I am willing to bet in a couple months, there is going to be some massive dirt dug up on both candidates.
>>73539956
If it were actually possible to provide every aspect of everyone's life without effort, nobody would need to work hard. And look, my work ethic is just fine. I have never been on the government dole because I have never needed to be. But would life be better if I didn't need to work? Abso-fucking-lutely, and I bet you think so too.
It's a hypothetical scenario that has nothing to do with Bernie Sanders' campaign, but yeah.
>>73540448
Not even /pol/ likes Trump anymore.
>>73540098
very insightful post comrade
>>73540472
> But would life be better if I didn't need to work? Abso-fucking-lutely, and I bet you think so too.
_that_ is the ridiculous hypothetical. Bernie Sanders socialist ideas are a race to the bottom.
He all but explicitly promotes degeneracy.
> And look, my work ethic is just fine.
Doubt it.
Tbh it all depends on FBI. If they indict Hillary, it'll be Bernie. If not, it'll be Clinton.
Trump has a very small chance, but so many minorities and women hate him (bc of shit like pic related) that it's damn near impossible to see him winning.
>>73540415
How do you know this? I'm not saying you're wrong (I don't know enough about the inner workings of the FBI to say either way) but can you back up your statement?
>>73540176
lol
>>73540176
top kek
>>73540639
I also promote degeneracy, tbqhwy familia. Degeneracy is a lot of fun. You should check it out.
Trump. There's no longer an unanimous agenda against his campaign. No shadowy rigging is going to happen.
Trump's going to do to Clinton what he did to Cruz, and it's going to work, because Clinton has a much worse public image than Cruz. Cruz came across as a typical "family values" republicunt, but the only thing he was guilty of was not doing enough to reach outside of the republican core.
Crooked Clinton is going to take off easily. For starts, her husband was almost impeached for lying under oath. The Clinton name is already associated with big power that thinks it can do whatever the fuck it wants. That's not going to be forgotten, and it was the first thing people were thinking about, when they heard of her email scandal.
Trump's going to try to get the court of public opinion to hang her.
>>73540659
I understand he had a "give no fucks" attitude but if he gave just a little he wouldn't have lost so many minority votes.
>>73539956
This.
Sander's supporters are 2 kinds people. 1, Lazy fucks that have no job or slack off at their job and just want it to stay that way.
2, the 2 other guys at work that bust their ass and practically carry the whole business hoping their efforts are noticed and rewarded but never are, and just gave up on the idea their hard work will actually put them ahead of the slackers.>>73539967
>>73540415
>FBI
>based
Gas yourself kike.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waco_siege
>>73540264
>latinos
>a minority that has the lowest turnout rate in the fucking country
(you)
>>73540873
it worked wonders for him in the primary but i think it sort of fucked him for the general
If bremain happens and trump isn't president, I may commit sodoku
sanders
>>73540893
Linked the last post by accident
>>73540926
Well that's about to change innit
>>73537522
Trump has a pretty good chance imho. He might bring up the highest voter turnout the Republican party has had in years while most votes for Hillary are just to spite Trump or the usual minorities. This time, I doubt that many white liberals will actually even go to vote. The Hispanic turnout might be higher but since they are mostly contained in a few states, it doesn't really matter. Blacks, on the other hand, might be important but because Clinton isn't black, their voter turnout will probably fall to 59-63% and Hillary won't get 97% of the black vote like Obama did.
>>73540905
Waco wasnt the fbi. It was the atf
>>73540926
there are still a shitload of them, and yeah i said she has to get them excited. turnout will be higher if she picks a latino to run with
>>73540983
I hope, but I doubt it at this point. Hilldawg getting her party van, or her campaign getting busted for election fraud seem to be about the only two ways it could happen.
>>73540742
James Comey, the current director of the FBI really has the best interests of the American people at heart, unlike certain scumfucks from the CIA
>historian Beverly Gage reported that Comey keeps on his desk a copy of the FBI request to wiretap Martin Luther King, Jr., "as a reminder of the bureau's capacity to do wrong."
>>73540873
Where is your proof?
Clinton. Odds, polls, and demographics all point to her.
>>73541063
>Upon the ATF's failure to raid the compound, a siege was initiated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the standoff lasting 51 days. Eventually, the FBI launched an assault and initiated a tear gas attack in an attempt to force the Branch Davidians out of the ranch. During the attack, a fire engulfed Mount Carmel Center. 76 people died
The FBI with their classic "woops mixed up the incendiary grenades with the tear gas again, lol" bit.
>>73540829
Yeah it figures. You'll likely never achieve anything in life.
Smoking weed a few times a year and getting drunk every other weekend isn't that bad. You have to enjoy life.
90% of the people I know who smoke daily or drink regularly are not positive contributors to society.
You sound weak.
>>73537522
Hillary is going to completely destroy Trump when it comes to debate time.
some guy told me there would be a civil war if sanders gets elected because the country would turn into venezuela
>>73541213
>bullshit that I make up with no sources on facts
>>73540098
Replace the FBI with the CIA, and that's more like it.
The CIA sometimes works independently from the federal government and has it's own agenda, with it's own army of paramilitary groups. Manipulating the election process for their favor is nothing new, the CIA has been doing it worldwide for nearly a century now.
>>73541027
Nah. Have you ever talked to a Mexican?
>HEY HOLMES. THAT'S COOL BUT WHAT'S IT GOT TO DO WITH TEQUILA AND WOMEN?!
>>73537522
If Hillary is the nominee, Trump
If she's arrested and Bernie becomes the nominee, Bernie
If she's arrested and the DNC shoves some random fucker (Joe Biden) at the voters as the nominee, Trump.
>>73541223
what do you contribute to society?
>>73537522
It depends on where America's priorities are.
Probably Hilary. I'm voting Trump in Texas, but my dad won't. He voted for Cruz and thinks Trump is a joker. Sorry guys.
>>73539497
Why are right wingers so opposed to people working minimum wage being able to live somewhat comfortably?
>>73537522
Why trust these odds?
Studies find that political prediction (betting) markets tend to be better at predicting elections than polls. Some reasons:
- Bettors take into account important factors besides polls.
- Unlike pundits, bettors put their money where their mouths are.
- People involved in the event might trade before news breaks publicly
- The "wisdom of crowds".
>>73541422
Get him to watch a Trump speech all the way through with you.
>>73541223
I actually haven't smoked weed in over ten years despite living in Washington where it's legal, and I am an infrequent drinker. Like you say, it's good to enjoy life so sometimes I'll get my swerve on but not often. I was referring more to freaky sex than anything else, although I'm never really sure what people on this board mean when they refer to degeneracy.
Also, I'm not a richfag and most likely never will be, but I have a decent career. My dad who's in his 70's and is a retired MD is also voting for Bernie. Your stereotypes about his voters are no more true than the stereotypes that anyone who supports Trump must be an inbred redneck. Things just aren't that simple.
funny, seem like most of the support for hillary is coming from republicans
>>73541518
I doubt he enjoys listening about ABC and The Apprentice.
>>73541504
Oh boy, good thing odds stay the same forever.
Hey guys, remember when Trump was at 94% to win the nomination back in June 2015? :)
You're a fucking retard and it's not the first time I've seen you push this retarded argument.
>>73537522
Hillary hands down, especially with Johnson getting so much of the anti trump vote.
If Bernie goes third party trump may walk away with it, only way I see it happening.
>>73541422
I would've loved for some kind of unification behind Cruz or Rubio. What happened instead is the conservative base fracturing itself into 20 different factions that have their own idea of morality, while Trump is the only candidate who did anything to draw votes outside of the republican core.
Colbert put it nicely.
>Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the election is something that most of us are watching.
>And this year, most of us are running!
>>73541518
yeah hell vote for hillary for sure then
>>73537522
>who is going to win the U.S. presidential election?
the march of tyranny alternates between left and right. the dems have had control for 8 years so the powers that be are going to give control to the repubs, but they don't like donald so the nomination will be given to paul ryan.
mark my words.
screenshot and save.
>>73539246
>>73539186
>leafposters arguing at who is the worst shitposter
I can taste the dismemberment from here
>>73541731
I think everyone who is opposed to Trump should at least listen to one recent speech he gives all the way through so that their opinion is an informed one.
>>73541783
seems pretty unlikely that sanders would do that though
>>73541832
At least it will be an informed vote. That's what's really important.
>>73541890
This scenario has been suggested a lot, but what happens next? How do Trump's supporters react and what happens to the party? I just don't see things going well for anyone involved if they really took a shit on democracy like that.
>>73542050
informed? all he'll learn is how great trump thinks trump is
>>73542073
>Trump's supporters
literally no one cares
>>73542198
The best way to find out what he will learn is for him to watch a speech all the way through, and then ask him what he learned. That's an empirical, scientific approach.
>>73542049
Extremely unlikely. He's a "blue no matter who" guy and does not want to be a spoiler. I love Bernie but he and I just don't agree on that one. Funny that he's so insistent that a Democrat win the election despite not even being one himself until he joined in order to run in their primary.
>>73542245
There sure are a lot of them though. I'm not one, so I am in no way offended by your reply, but the faggot is popular.
>>73542245
>mad
jews will win, regardless of who wins the house/presidentcy. America is a joke. filled with 9gag memers.
>>73542286
I've listened to a bunch of his rally speeches and I still don't know what he'll do
build a wall
deport a bunch of ppl
anything else?
>>73542316
Bernie seems to agree on TRADE more with Trump than with Hillary. I wonder how important Bernie thinks trade is. If he thinks it's one of the most important issues this election, he really should support Trump over Hillary.
>>73537522
Hillary is the Merkel of the West. Americans must be lied to at this point just to delay an inevitable revolution to extract the entrenched establishment on both sides of the aisle. They are the enemy of America! Trump has refused their money soexpect the eestablishment to sabotage every move the American people have demanded. With a new Justice Department head many criminals on both sides will enjoy the luxurious local penal facility. Prison sex in on the menu for these pieces of shit. Since they love LBGTQ they will get an ass full.
In short. Trump wins the biggest crushing defeat worst than Mondale, andthey shit was epic! Did I mention fuck Islam?
>>73541487
The minimum wage itself is the reason why they can't make a comfortable living. Minimum Wage is code for Artificial Poverty.
>>73542596
If you watch any more of his speeches, keep an ear out for the word "trade." He seems to be making that the cornerstone of his campaign. It seems to be a point on which there is a lot of difference between the two candidates.
>>73537924
fpbp
And who loses? We do.
>>73542316
he values pragmatism over total ideological devotion. i think he would much rather see hillary in the white house than trump, even though hillary is just a belligerent shill
>>73541832
He's not going to vote at all.
>>73542405
>There sure are a lot of them
Trump is paying a lot of people to shill for him online and to make appearances at his events, but polls show that few people in real life actually like or support him or his policies.
>>73537924
>>73542704
I thought Trump was accepting big donations now
>>73538950
I thought OP said realistically.
>>73542760
these trade deals are really investor protection agreements that have almost nothing to do with trade.and trump thinks the us is getting ripped off
in a investor protection agreement ffs
https://electionbettingodds.com
Just look here retards.
Lolbertarians will ruin this election like Perot did. Another Clinton may take the Whitehouse and repeats itself. If I find Gary Johnson, I will behead him
>>73543023
yes that is why Economists have said that Free trade deals have resulted in a net loss of Jobs for America. It's all a benefit you see :^)
>>73543023
If you put it that way, it sounds like it would be the workers versus the investors. Which group is more numerous and has the most votes?
Hillary.
>no contest
no contest
>>73540019
The black population is fairly stable. It's the spic population that is skyrocketting.
>>73543123
trump thinks china and mexico is stealing jobs
>>73540549
GTFO shill
>>73543352
Will he be able to convince the voters of that?
>>73540926
>Implying blacks voting habits are negligible
Clinton, and just how Obama has sealed the deal for getting another Black president in the next twenty years (or how Dubya made sure another Bush will get elected), after her TWO terms women will be set back in politics by about twenty years.
Trump will do whatever it takes within the law to win, he sure as hell won't ever have the moral high ground, but he's the most honest asshole/kike puppet on the election stage.
Clinton's victory comes from her selfishness, one where you can see in her very eyes this is just a play for power and control. She'll break laws and have people killed, she'll do anything.
No revolution or protest will stop this one boys and girls, we're in for 8 years of dynasty politics.
>>73543123
btw, I'm not anti trump
best republican in a long time, maybe 50 years
>>73541605
Good post anon
>>73543768
bump
>>73537522
Trump first, Sanders second. Never, never, ever, Hillary.
if this is true it would mean the republican party has be screwing the working class for at least 40 years, on purpose
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/editorialopinion/2011/08/12/apocalyptic_crisis_budgeting.html
how could and working person vote republican
republicans don't want any security for working ppl
and they don't want unions or good pay either
they want working ppl on there knees
>>73544600
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jix1zRziC0A
>>73544600
Maybe that's why the Republican establishment hates him.
>>73545102
I'm absolutely sure it is
>>73537522
BERNIE I FEEL THE BURN
>>73540983
le gommunism
Why haven't you gone back to your containment board. you've been btfo every time you post.
>>73545579
we'll see
>>73537522
Cruz will run third party and win in November. Mark my words.
wouldn't it be cool to have 2 anti establishment candidates
things might be easier to change
>>73537522
hilary since she's the most corrupt piece of shit ever and will do whatever the bankers that run the world want so they'll rig it in her favor
>>73545925
>flag
>>73537522
>Trump vs Clinton
Trump will win by a small margin, and it will be an extremely tough fight.
>Trump vs Sanders
Sanders will win because his supporters are fucking animals. They will say/do anything to stop Trump. A civil war will happen.
>>73546180
It's true. The people are crying out for a real, constitutional alternative. Only Cruz offers that. Donald and Hillary are one in the same.
>>73545925
Cruz will run third party and win in November
it would be pretty hard to explain that to the public
>>73546315
Most people here in America who are not extremely old-school evangelical Christians think Cruz is out of his mind.
>>73546364
Explain what?
>>73546401
Nope. Most people think Trump is out of his mind. Look at his disapproval ratings.
>>73546414
cruz couldn't win against kasich
>>73546523
Two different kinds of crazy.
>>73546541
He already beat him in the primaries.
>>73546585
So respecting the constitution and the bill of rights is crazy now, is it? Go away, liberal shill.
>>73546605
if cruz won the election the country would probably explode
cruz is a freak
>>73546683
wtf, how has cruz shown he would protect the constitution?
I sincerely want Trump to win, but I know it's very unlikely. Hillary is almost certainly going to be our next president.
There's just no way that Trump is going to get the minority votes that he needs in order to win. I think it's hilarious how /pol/ is normally all on about how nogs and Mexicucks are stupid, yet they expect them to make the correct choice this November? Never listen to /pol/
>>73546683
>be Australian
>feel this strongly about American constitution
It's a really old document desu senpai.
>>73546724
Yeah, it would explode for those in the Washington Cartel who would suffer under a Cruz presidency. Not for ordinary Americans though.
My guess is for Trump. Surely you Americans aren't that dumb as a whole to fall for Hillary's thin veneer of lies.
>>73546683
cruz is a corporate puppet, he'll do whatever he's told
>>73539956
if you don't have genuine interests or ambitions in art or science you are degenerate
>>73546806
He's defended the constitution in the Supreme Court.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elk_Grove_Unified_School_District_v._Newdow
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia_v._Heller
>>73546825
>if it's old it's bad
because it's 2016 amirite?
>>73543346
FUCKING
>will americuckistan vote for a white male or a first female POTUS after voting in the first black POTUS
Truly this is the time to see whether or not we put americucks on the same cuck level as sweden, germany and britain.
>>73540019
>Rip in peace guns
yeah right.
Civil war inbound
>>73539831
Fucking this, Jeb! will run as 3rd party and whoop Hillary and stop Trump, who isn't even a real conservative.
>>73547046
It isn't bad because it's old, but it gets less and less relevant the older it gets.
>>73546226
You contradict yourself. The Berners would start the civil war because they are animals. They wouldn't do that if they won. Trump win would more likely cause a civil disturbance (doubt they are coordinated enough to drag it out into an actual war) and I have heard BernieBro associates allude to this in a very literal sense.
>>73546967
the second one was his job
he's not even mentioned in this one
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elk_Grove_Unified_School_District_v._Newdow
>>73547719
giving advice to you boss doesn't prove anything
>>73546315
Most Americans have no idea what a constitutional conservative believes. They think they are entitled to "gibmedats" or they think the president needs to be a socially conservative war hawk retard.
Cruz was destroyed by Trump in the primary for this reason, and would be beaten even worse in a general election since independents are even less likely to respond to the constitution-based aspects of Cruz's platform. I think Cruz is a moron by the way so I'm not defending him.
I think the best hope is that somehow the Trump meme ravaging the Republican Party morphs into an actual revitalization of the party platform to produce a psuedo tea-party constitutional conservatism coupled with a more nationalistic foreign policy with less focus on bullshit globalist agreements and more pressure for Americans to claim a common social identity and reject multiculturalism and return to our founding principals.
But that won't happen. Instead Hillary will win and in 2 years tops we will have a steady stream of "USA YES" threads on /pol/ as America takes its rightful place as the blind leaders of a global march toward oblivion.
>>73547882
>and more pressure for Americans to claim a common social identity and reject multiculturalism and return to our founding principals
What founding principles of the US were ever against multiculturalism?
>>73546022
This,
realistically speaking
jesus what an asshole
