Compared to the boom of from 1940 to 1970, technological advancement seems to have comnpletely stagnated.
That time saw the invention of computers, space travel, nuclear power, modern medicine, international transport etc. Anything seemed possible, we saw a future of space travel, cure-all medicine, clean energy and robotics.
Now we just get mildly better iphones and any new medical treatments take decades for approval when they do come along. We haven't had a new antibiotic developed in decades and cancer survival rates have only improved 5% since 1950. We hear about advances massively overstated in the news, but we never see them in reality.
We surely have more engineers today than in the past, stress seems to be on start-ups and innovation, more people are educated in general. So why is everything slowing /pol/?
Brown people
Affirmative action caused the labour force to be majoriliy lazy and unskilled. Everyone is too busy showing off how progressive they are to their banking benefactors and trying to scrape up that free money. No one really wants to invest in anything.
There's still a few out there like Elon Musk making some progress though. But they'll become rarer and rarer as white people mostly leave society behind disillusioned by it all Atlas Shrugged.
>>73488952
>Sent from my iPhone
>>73488952
Its in your picture. They're watching black people on tv.
Media turned the focus to the lowest common denoninator and shamed actual progress. We're now afraid of the ethics of progress and instead share barber memes and upload twerking videos. Stagnation is a consequence of degenerecy.
It hasn't at all
>make America gr8 again
>>73488952
We have not recovered any UFO's lately, still working off of thier old technology
>>73489306
Surely just through population growth alone there should be the same amount of innovators around as there was in the past, even if a higher proportion of the population isn't.
>>73489306
This guy
The next generation of the west will be even worse though
We pander so hard to the lowest common denominators that people will fail at life just for freebies
>>73488952
We need a war to speed up the need for more advanced tech, without an arms race our tech will upgrade much slower.
>still waiting on my personal jetpack promised int he 1950's
>>73488952
Although more seriously, the space age/jet age was mainly the practical application of new technologies, and a lot of it was low hanging fruit.
It sounds stupid to say that going to the moon was low hanging fruit when it required harnessing the industrial output of an entire civilization but in terms of manned space exploration it definitely was.
Now we are in an area with fewer low hanging fruits and more just general kind of fruits everywhere
>>73488952
there's progress alright, you just don't see it because it's happening in realtime
it hasn't particularly stopped, we're just in a research phase moving into another consumer phase probably sometime in the late 10's early 20's. lots of new tech is here but not mature enough, and it's all going to hit around the same time. the 20's is going to be a hell of a decade.
The Civil Rights Movement.
>>73489445
But it seems to have: we have incremental improvement on things invented decades ago: commercial plane travel is exactly the same speed it was years ago, just a bit safer - in fact we lost the concorde. Computing grows, but what do we really have to show for it? We got to space on 1960s computing, nowadays the peak goes to rendering pixar animals.
No new categories of technology seem too have been created either, its just new versions of what we've seen before.
It could be argued that genetic technology and medicine is new, but we have seen literally nothing come of that.
>>73489556
But affirmative action and population inflation instead of sustainable growth in the minority races has created a disproportionality in the work force that's not beneficial for progress.
>>73489699
I bet that's what your government's been saying to your people for years
>>73489721
When consumer VR hits we are going to see a huge spike in software and engineering possibly many times larger than the smartphone boom.
But still it won't lead to space colonies
>>73488952
Less commercial applications for military technology.
>>73488952
Liberals
>>73489783
so you want brand new shit? what problems do you want solving?? we're working on nanomachines for medicinal problems but we can already cross distances easily, communicate worldwide etc. its just niche stuff and illness to be worked on non incrementally really
When I was a kid I thought I would live long enough to see people live on the moon.
Right now it looks like I will die before seeing anything noteworthy.
All we have is some stupid gimmick VR goggles for hipster faggots and drones for hipster film makers who make shitty youtube videos.
Kill me. I don't want to live. Why can't I go to Mars yet? Just kill me already.
>>73488952
>Compared to the boom of from 1940 to 1970, technological advancement seems to have comnpletely stagnated.
it's probably just reality.
the great age of physics only lasted a few decades. similarly, solid-state (are you old enough to remember when that meant something) electronics exploded for a few decades as well.
cars and planes are pretty much perfected, except for the transition to electrical power.
medicine will continue to advance at a snail's pace.
what else is there? and as for that 40s to 70s time period, cell phones and the internet have changed the world far more than anything from that era. nukes have had a profound effect in that super powers don't wage direct war anymore, but as for your life and my life, they changed more in the last two decades than in the 40-70 period.
I'm not saying there's nothing left to discover, but we are at something of a plateau.
>>73488952
How many mars missions would the war on terror and the f-35 have paid for?
>>73489830
But we can leave aside things like personal space travel, jetpacks and ray guns because many visions of the future were based on unnecessary things that were either not possible or just undesirable.
But we still haven't seen medical advances, something that is possible and is highly desirable.
Is it just because there is more money in consumer tech?
>>73489783
We can now land robotic probes on fast moving asteroids, have 4 legged walking robots advanced enough to self right when tipped over and most people in the developed world carry in their pockets a computing device more powerful than supercomputers from back in the 70s and 80s that has wireless access to the largest open library of information ever in the history of man.
Technological advancement gets better each year at a faster rate but you just don't notice because you're so immersed in the tech already that it now seems mundane.
>>73488952
Nope, you're just dumb. We are moving faster than ever before with no real end in sight, except for demographic replacement ofc
More taxes than ever. It is estimated that governments in the West take 30-50% of the average citizen's income.
No wonder why all investment is fleeing to SE Asia.
>>73488952
nigger have you seen the advances in computing since 1970 to 2016?
get the fuck up out of my face normie you know nothing of technology
>>73489918
Nanomachines are a wah out, they require too much energy for their size to be usable.
We could cross distances in the 1940s, we could communicate worldwide in the 1940s - later if we mean the internet.
Healthcare by and large has only improved through public health measures, we could benefit massively from robotics, even space travel is going to be a must at some point, genetic manipulation, etc. There are many areas we really should be improving in.
lack of war
Are you fucking stupid? Are you posting on 4chan from an 8bit computer?
>>73488952
jews
in particular the privately owned central banks that create money from nothing and lend it at 6% interest, increasing the national debt
and socialism taxing and spending all our money on useless people
>>73488952
>That time saw the invention of computers, space travel, nuclear power, modern medicine, international transport etc.
These fields were massively improved during your timeframe, but the groundwork was done earlier. In hindsight it might look like there's a period of stagnation but I'm sure we will see some interesting developments.
Or maybe just your african appeasement fund is draining funds from R&D.
>>73488952
How about you buy an LG G5 or Samsung Galaxy S7 (edge) and compare it to the phone you had in 2010
>>73488952
>He says this whilst posting on the internet
>>73488952
>US government stops funding those scientific categories and most sciences due to the free market and Soviet collapse
>Soviet Union collapses
>No competition between nations to be the best, China will fix that soon
>Schools started to become standardized bureaucratic convoluted messes in order to get tax dollars instead of educating the kids
>Standards have also been lowered for schools to help those who lag behind; common core, no kid left behind
>If you want to make a decent living you have to go to college now, college isn't meant for everyone and causes less 1 on 1 time for the bright students who get dragged down
>There is no incentive to be smart anymore or invent things, they're stolen by others and people are more interested in Kim Kardashians fat ass in a dress than a break through in aerospace technology
>>73489556
copyright and patents don't mean anything when china just steals them
also Whites aren't encouraged
>>73488952
>technological advancement seems to have comnpletely stagnated.
It hasn't, its just that barely nothing of it reach the public.
>>73489119
>>73489306
>>73489418
This.
>>73489599
Just wait until after winter this time.
>>73489987
So you think there's been a change from pioneering advances to personal consumer advances? That does make sense, but i feel like its still a shame.
>>73488952
It hasn't stop. You expect things too fast.
>>73488952
>CERN
>International space station
>phones that can literally so anything
>virtual reality
>etc
>progress has stopped
Goddamn I fucking hate summer and the dumb nigger Muslims it brings from the UK.
>>73490276
In 2017? You know something we don't anon? Care to share?
How about the fucking internet? Cellphones&laptops n shiiet?
>>73489418
>Its in your picture. They're watching black people on tv.
Well at least they got something right.
>>73488952
You are an imbecile and scientific illiterate. In the 60's they couldn't even predict internet, smartphones, emails and so on.
This revolution is about communication, others field advanced too (ex. medicine)
>>73490222
The internet is something I had forgotten and surely is one of the greatest inventions
I don't think it has. It always took time for new things to become mainstream.
You see intel working on 10 nm architectures, display manufacturers going for more than 150hz or new things like oled or laser proyectors. Just look at the CES if you think innovation has stagnated. It's just that now it's mostly focused on computers, robots and AI.
There's driverless cars and automation on everything, and our life now depends so much on technology we take those things for granted, like internet, faster processors every year or things like medicine, which might be why we think there's nothing being done. As for the other things you mentioned, we thought everything was possible but we realised we couldn't do everything.
>>73490267
What would be the purpose of purposefully sealing away tech?
>>73490098
>30-50%
that's a low estimate
vat alone is 20, and standard income tax here is 24, so that's 44%, then extra tax(80%) on fuel(including anything delivered by truck or ship or plane), at least 60% on fags, and booze
>>73488952
Because it's apparently more important to take care of blacks, arabs and muslims like they're children so progress and evolution is on a halt. If anything western nations are now in a state of decay.
Fuck hey we wuz kangz n shit.
>>73490367
> CERN
It found the 'god' particle, which you probably don't even know about and which has had no ramifications in real terms.
> VR
You can now put a screen on your face.
>blaming niggers
>not considering the possibility that maybe the government is surpassing things that compete with oil, because it's owned by the 5 banks that own the worlds biggest 5 oil companies
>>73488952
I think its not true when I was in elementary school I had a Siemens C35 phone and now my phone is stronger then my PC that I had in highschool.
>>73490444
Smartphones and emails existed in sci-fi in the 50s m8
>>73490542
too dangerous, too much better than current tech making a whole industry obselete, for shits and giggles
>>73490619
CERN literally invented time travel.
>>73488952
Everyone is majoring in useless liberal arts and humanities. Being a unique special snowflake with a podium to preach about imagined oppression of illegal immigrants is more important than Egineering or scientific breakthroughs.
Meanwhile, rising economic powerhouses like China and India have so many Engineers they have to look for work abroad just to find some shitty h1b job.
Its only going to get worse.
>>73490619
Yea you're a moron, keep waiting for your moving sidewalks though you fucking faggot
Technologies have developed. The consumer tech loving public is not interested in them therefore you don't see their mass production. Moreover not every government will allow street hoverboarding like Japan
>>73490367
He's still right though.
It's mostly because people stopped understanding that science takes us forward. All your fancy toys are fruits of science and most people nowadays don't understand this obvious fact. This is the reason governments are cutting research massively. First they take endless waves of immigrants from 3rd world countries and then they cut higher education of natives and research.
Why...? They get more feelgood votes in the next election. Democracy has failed so hard it's not even funny.
Isn't it just a shift to different less-visible areas? Like making prosthetic limbs you can control with your mind and VR and stuff like that. Hard to reinvent the atom bomb or the computer. Also yeah probably because we live in such a safe time with lazy underachieving people. No one really cares to put in tons of effort. Or they do and they all fail so we never hear about them.
>>73490666
So they then ADVANCED through scientific PROGRESS into real life. You're so stupid it's painful
>>73488952
>Compared to the boom of from 1940 to 1970, technological advancement seems to have comnpletely stagnated.
People even bothered entertaining this? really?
>>73490690
Time travel happens naturally - inventing it in the sense of travelling back in time is completely impossible.
>>73490714
Thanks for playing
>>73490542
It's a strategic advantage in the case of a possible conflict.
>>73490184
Probably a big part of it. total war forces innovation the results of which are often trailed for civilian purposes after.
but we are all 'happy' fat and peaceful in the west now
>>73488952
Socialism.
>>73488952
>We haven't had a new antibiotic developed in decades and cancer survival rates have only improved 5% since 1950
except that's completely untrue
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_antibiotics
although since you were trying to make the point that humanity is getting stupider, well done, you certainly succeeded there. almost 70 posts in the thread, and no one thought to check if what OP is saying is true
>>73490773
That's not really a response. My response was surprisingly directed at his statement.
>>73490024
I think one issue is that there are technological stages where what you can do with medicine increases.
With the IT technology we have now we can have complex data analysis and display of medical imaging in way that weren't possible decades ago. But that doesn't let us rewrite DNA or whatever, however we have swallowable cameras now.
To make massive changes in how diseases are treated is possible but we need to be at a higher tech level to realize them.
Of course there is also the issue that smartphone technology and shit is unrestricted pure competition while medical technology is very very political and hugely encumbered in red tape and so it's easier to make angry birds 5 than it is to develop a new X-ray scanner to look inside somebody's testicle
religion
>>73488952
Jews
Political Correctness
THE INTERNET RAISING THE NEWER GENERATIONS
>>73489783
Supersonic flight is just so much more expensive than a comfy mach 0.85. Planes are getting more and more efficient instead, a 777 uses a tiny amount of fuel compared to an early 747 from the 70s and carries a similar number of passengers.
Rocket technology is improving too, webm related.
>>73488952
Well, theres no benefit for men being high acheivers any more. Women aren't interested in "career scientists", "career engineers".
We can't exactly turn into oppressed brown people or Tyrones with foot long cocks so we just play video games and masturbate to internet porn. Sorry about that, forefathers, but thats what you get for letting cunts vote.
>>73490940
This.
>>73488952
>Computer progress
Still booming, don't you bongs notice? Hard Drives are becoming less common as SSDs begin to become common for PCs. Vidya games are running smoother, faster, and in better detail than ever (from major developers). A big advancement isn't always in the amount of the computing power, but often in the ability to miniaturize it, something that was never imaginable back then.
>Space Travel
I'm stumped. I'll blame the Jews, they probably don't want us using Nazi designed rockets to leave the hell hole they want. However, you can't say people aren't trying to continue to advance in this category, even if national/multinational space agencies have given up on propelling humanity into the stars, fulfilling our rightful destiny as conquerors of the stars.
>Nuclear Power/Energy
Green Energy and Coal lobbies have fucked Nuclear in the States, and most people are too misinformed to see the benefits of fusion research. The first country to develop and use Fusion as an energy source will become a super power, mark my words.
>Travel/Transport
Maglev trains are the future. The problem is powering them over long distances, and I think Nuclear Fusion would be a great solution for this. Also, cars are getting more and more fuel efficient, and are gradually leaning toward other sources, like electric. While Electric cars may still have issues, the tech will improve.
>Medicine
Some things in medicine are hard to advance. Others have made leaps and bounds since the 70's. You might have metal sticks attatched to your leg stump in the 70's, but look at what Oscar Pistorious was able to do with prosthetics (no, not kill his wife, the Olympics thing). While many medical treatments have not boomed, the tech surrounding the medicine and utilized by the docs have improved greatly. In 1971, a CT scan took 5 minutes to get an image. Now, Siemmens has made one that takes an image in a second.
>>73488952
everything is fault of Slavshits and Cuckians
remove them and a base on Pluto is ready in 5 years
in 20 years we reach Alfa Centauri
and in 100 the whole galaxy is ours
Big Government, which leads to Cronyism, which leads to less competition, which leads to stagnant technology and innovation.
>>73488952
brown people
>>73490982
Fuck i hate these dumb made up graphs.
I hope you're too young to understand how stupid you are so as to avoid embarrassing yourself further.
>>73490982
>This.
is bullshit
>>73490892
Interesting, I drew the information from two articles - perhaps they meant a major class of antibiotics?
As for cancer rates I have no idea where they came up with that then, but your stat doesn't seem realistic either: 99.9% prostate cancer survival rate?? I know someone who's died from it.
>>73490276
wait for war or jetpack?
>>73490542
>What would be the purpose of purposefully sealing away tech?
Economic reasons, they want to make money selling oil and coal.
And what would happen if some one had anti gravity FTL saucer and just allah snackbar'd it into new york? These things have existed for a long ass time now.
Also the military is saving its toys for the next big wars. Programs like the f-35 is really just money laundering for black budget projects.
>>73488952
Computers have advanced massively though, right now we live in the Information Age for a reason.
>>73488952
Hippies environmentalist bums.
But hey you got your touchscreen phone surveiling you? Thats progress. Internet too. So fuck off.
>>73490982
mfw Christians were referred to as "atheists" by the Romans because they refused to be involved in roman religious festivals.
mfw this faggot thinks Christianity is the only religion and pre-Christian Europe had no religion.
>>73490982
Nigga, you are so stupid.
It's not like we destroyed everything when the huns came in and sacked the eastern empire.
>>73489599
How is loads of people dying a good solution?
there are other options
ITT: /pol/ blames blacks for yet another unrelated occurance
The real reason for the technological slowdown is that most of our technology needs have been met. We're simply running out of ideas for things than can improve our lives. We are at peak moderness.. meaning it's never going to get better than it is right now, and if it does, it will be only marginally. Massive fullscale production of robots is about the only thing that could bring meaningful change to our way of life. I.e. robots manning every factpry, doing the chores, trimming the palm trees, etc.. and that might be coming in our life time.
>>73490939
I've had a capsule endoscopy though and even then its old technology, the camera is much larger than any smartphone camera and you have to wear a sizeable belt to receive the signal and store the images.
Not saying it isn't an advancement but its using technology a decade old.
Feminism.
>>73489830
virtual reality applied to science (such visualization) will probably be a catalyst to all areas including aero spatial, educational possibilities are endless too.
>>73489918
you're an idiot, there's nothing new coming.
Women's liberation. A nerd who can't get laid has no stake in society and therefore no reason to improve it. Shill for tech companies to afford a cushy living, ignore rest of the world.
>>73491172
>>73491185
>>73491271
>>73491279
>>73489967
>>73489830
>>73488952
>>73489656
Why does /pol/, when it comes to technology, always look forward towards colonizing other planets?
>>73490138
ooh, color screen
I remember an episode of Eureka where they put out fires in just a few seconds with somekind of nanobot cloud or was it a foam with AI, the sherif asked afterwards why the rest of the world doesnt get it and the answer was that all the firemen would be unemployed after that.
Think about all the people who would be unemployed, maybe people wouldn't need to work because everything was automated but what purpose in life would you have after that?
>>73491208
Is there any evidence for this though - it feels like hopeful speculation that there is a wealth of future technologies soon to be revealed.
>>73491409
Kek
> people bring up other points, causing me to think critically
>fedoras!!!!!!!!!
>>73490211
everything in a smart phone already existed retard
chinks putting a radio and a camera together doesn't constitute a new device
>>73488952
Extra-terrestrials came in the 40's and helped earth technicians with developing technology.
When the aliens saw the 'cultural revolution' of the late 60's begin to unfold, and continued through the 70's with no signs of slowing, the aliens decided that they'd made a big mistake.
They simply fucked off.
religion is the eternal enemy of rationalism (fundamental of science) derive your conclusions from this.
the allah snackbar and trump christian fundamentalists are the enemies of reason.
>>73488952
>Not much tech progress since 1970
>says that from a computer on the internet
>>73491195
>perhaps they meant a major class of antibiotics?
even then, still wrong
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2016/03/14/first-new-antibiotic-in-30-years-discovered-in-major-breakthroug/
>99.9% prostate cancer survival rate??
in prostate cancer's case, that's because the vast majority of prostate cancer is diagnosed in elderly men, who tend to die of something else before the cancer gets them
>>73491417
To leave the non-whites behind.
>>73491223
I dont have a smartphone m8, I dont actually have a phone at all.... But phones are just an iteration of technology we've had for decades.
>>73489830
Wew lad.
VR is gonna be about as successful as 3D television.
Augmented reality like google glass or the hololens might have some limited applications.
But consumer VR is already DOA. It will have select military and medical use. Gaming might use it, but it will be the same companies that exist now who will have the money to develop VR games.
>>73491285
Let's be honest here, war is part of the cycle on this planet. Look at nature, when push comes to shove two sides go against one another until one wins. That isn't too different for us either, main difference is that we mainly rely on the tech we invented rather than claws or brute strength. And just as in nature the one with the better and more lethal method of killing is triumphant in the end, therefore in war who has the more advanced tech can assure victory easier. Plus this is also nature's way of weeding out the excess population.
>>73490367
that's some shitty fucking progress
>>73490982
and your solution is islam sadiq?
>>73491050
>Space travel stumping
There is no profit to be made in space beyond low orbit communication satellites. There will never be a resource on another celestial body that will be easier to collect that it is on earth. There will never be a planet as habitable as earth. There will never be suitable tech to travel between the stars in any remotely plausible amount of time.
The reason space exporation is slowing down is the unfortunate reality that there really isn't anything out there for us. I know man. It sucks.
>>73491348
Nice try, free market shill. I won't be buying shares from you meme company, so you can create another useless gizmo.
>>73488952
It isn't. We have colonies on the Moon and Mars, we have ships that can fly at
500 million km an hour, human genetic hybrids are now functionally immortal, we have created AI beings that assist and guide us amongst the stars. The 7.125 billion of us on Earth are just the afterbirth and we will never be told the whole truth.
>>73491564
In that case, all technology is just an iteration and next step of thoughts we've had for decades.
Fire, wheels, and agriculture ate apparently the only inventions.
>>73491591
VR is a success already, billions spends, constant interest in news, and when you try it is like psychedelic drugs.
>>73490024
We've already had commercial space tourism, jetpacks have been invented but are exactly as safe as you'd expect and don't ever get used, and we strap lasers to planes to shoot down missiles in mid-air.
In terms of medical technology, we're held back by a combination of patent law, over-regulation requiring stupid numbers of clinical trials, monopolistic lobbying, and progress in biology itself.
Having said that, check out http://spectrum.ieee.org/the-human-os/robotics/medical-robots/autonomous-robot-surgeon-bests-human-surgeons-in-world-first, https://www.sciencenews.org/article/breakdown-product-not-ketamine-may-ease-depression, and http://www.grailbio.com/. People do awesome shit with medical technology every day, and you only ever hear about a tiny fraction of it.
>>73490249
THIS!!!
I cannot stand the thought that Kim Kardashian earn more, but fuck that, has easier, nice life than most of scientists just because she has an enormous, interesting butt coupled with a nice looks.
Also who would you fuck: a scientist or Kim.
Please, don't hurt me more.
people really need to see visible change to understand progress. when drones are routinely dropping off amazon boxes, that'll be a pretty big one.
>>73491614
It is good to know that 4chinz still exists in 2300.
>>73489987
>Aviation tech
>Car tech
>"Perfected"
Top kikity kek!
>>73490982
You reek of simplicity and unintelligence, hence why originally I tried my best to avoid interacting with you, but seriously? How did you manage to quantify "scientific advance" so accurately, and based on what do you propose your linear view of history (that is, that if you remove one chapter of history, you'll automatically end up in the one succeeding it)?
Also,
>muh "Christian" dark ages may-may
In what ways was that era dark thanks to Christianity exactly? Byzantium was also heavily religious and it retained a relatively healthy economy and way of life for a reasonable amount of time... they just happened not to have been overrun by barbarians raping, killing and destroying everything in their way.
pro-tip: burning Giordano Bruno didn't turn Western Europe into a plague-infested shithole.
>>73490786
show me a faster plane then genius
humanity is bogged down by a unrelenting tide of stupid people.
We need genius sperm banks and common sense eugenics.
>>73491286
If robots do all the work how are poor people going to make money ?
btw /pol/ isn't blaming the blacks they are blaming social engineering.
>>73488952
No competition.
World War 2 and the Cold War incentivised competitiveness in all fields, leading to an incredible leap in humanity's achievements.
>>73490892
>haven't cured anything since polio
>0 cures in the pipeline
progress!
>>73491430
>>73491503
Anon, shut up. You're so dumb and illinfomed it hurts.
>>73488952
We hit the wall, progress hasn't stopped though, it's still going
>>73488952
Whites are repressed.
Science is twisted and shackled by an oligarchy.
>>73491605
Stop this, a man can dream you know!
We could have digita money instead of coins and bills. This would put mst banks out of business, the money would be traceabe, meaning it can not be stolen, or used in ilegal shit and would be easier to everyone. But the jews are in the way
We could also easiy replace phone lines, tv and radio waves with internet. But again the Jews are to greedy, they dont wanna this easy money.
>>73491671
Well from the thread in general it seems that healthcare is the one area that has truly stagnated and others have improved, but in a less 'showy' way than before.
Whilst there's comfort in that, I feel it would be more important that we make healthcare developments than everyone ITT marveling at how I can now play angry birds on a 4K screen.
>>73491494
>Is there any evidence for this though
Well you have the statement from the director for lockheed martins skunkwork aka the father of stealth. Then there are lots of old astronauts, high ranking airforce pilots, officers, photos etc. You can call me a tinfoil if you wan't, i won't care because i am in good company.
But if you are waiting for a official statement from the government or something you can keep waiting because that won't happen. Some people within the government(s) talk about it when they get old and stop caring about death and all that.
Here is the former minister of defense for leafland talking about it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhElE3JILAE
Pic is just a painting from astronaut alan bean, note the upper right corner.
TL;DR
The major powers are all ready operating ''alien'' tech, anti gravity, FTL and all that.
>>73488952
Prevention of economic collapse, at least their definition of it.
Let's say I found a way of making a better TV than anything seen before and it's simple and cheap to build, a company would buy my patent for a frighteningly huge sum and make it disappear.
They need to stagnate the technological development to maintain the status quo. You could, potentially, end up in a state where you can mass produce anything at all and charge very little for it.
The long term goal is to prevent a naturally evolving collectivism. If everyone can have everything, even pointless crap like iphones, cheap why would you follow the instruction of an employer or banker? You wouldn't.
>>73491902
Healthcare development is hard when you can't use human test subjects.
>>73491494
Here are some quotes and statements from various service members, intelligence officers etc.
And before you start spouting ''hurr aliens'' keep in mind that UFO only means unidentified flying objects. There are plenty of those around.
>>73491605
Dude, mining the moon for heavy metals/rare-earth metals would be very profitable. Also, there is a close asteroid worth trillions in platinum.
As for the OP:
There are more educated people, but the average decreased from average joe to retarded facebook dependant zombie.
People in the 70's would be horrified to see the lack of progress we've made on things that matter.
"Hey here's your handheld transistor radio TV VCR hifi, enjoy your AIDS"
>>73491902
Your monitor breaks, you get a new one. Your pacemaker breaks, your family sue the manufacturer. They sue even if it will prevent future research in the area, even if it will bankrupt a forward-thinking doctor, and even if it will send an innovative company into receivership, because you were worth a lot to them and they can't accept that your death must be balanced against the deaths that would occur without that pacemaker.
>>73489119
>>73490276
kek, yes because "brown people" were invented in the 70s.
how fucking underage can this board get holy shit
>>73492050
Niggers are close enough.
>>73488952
>Why Has Progress Stopped?
Millennials.
>>73492132
I wasn't at any point saying 'aliens' or 'tinfoil hat', im just curious so i asked for what evidence there was.
Whilst im unlikely to believe any alien influence or any contact with aliens will happen in the course of humanity's existence, im happy to believe there is technology hidden if there is evidence for it.
>>73492138
Just who the fuck are you going to employ to be a moon miner ?
>>73490267
>Says the CEO of a company who has shares in it.
In reality the shit in military black projects is at best 5 years beyond what we currently see. Shit like radar detection and chemical lasers.
Not computers and spaceships.
But of course being as stupid as the US mil tech industry is we got direct from China engineers working on it sending this shit back to China.
T. Former contractor.
>>73491494
>it feels like hopeful speculation that there is a wealth of future technologies soon to be revealed.
I didn't say that they will be revealed, i said they exist.
People (credible high ranking people with actual knowledge) that try to reveal this end up dead.
>>73491837
>incremental improvements in consumer electronics
>t-this is a big deal!
k
>>73491417
we can spread the true faith
>>73488952
Leftists.
No one else has declared war on progress as much as those fuckers.
1. Those were low hanging fruit compared to the stuff we have to deal with now.
2. People back then underestimated the complexity of things that they sought to achieve. Had they known better they wouldn't have talked about jet packs and other shit.
3. The promised energy revolution never materialized. Just like today you have people predicting the future based on the growth of computer power, back then they were doing the same with energy. Oil seemed to be infinite and cheap, in one human lifetime they went from horses and carriages to supersonic jets and space travel, from simple rifles to nuclear weapons. They were predicting the future based on what had been happening until that point, which is a fallacious way of doing things because trends like that are inherintly unreliable.
Muh feels took over
Just look at any news of a new discovery and you'll find hundreds of comments saying that money should've been spent on poor niglets.
>>73488952
This triggers me so hard. The internet, wifi bruh
>>73492221
Yes it is a very milennial thing to do to not provide any substantial response and instead give a sarky, empty retort in order to get internet points in lieu of actual argument.
>>73490972
This. I have a shit eating bean counting job and even that I can't fucking stand going to. I would rather just be broke and sit at home masturbating to cartoons and smoking marijuana.
>Compared to the boom of from 1940 to 1970, technological advancement seems to have comnpletely stagnated.
No, the fact that you think this shows scientific illiteracy. I thought like you at one point, but the fact is that it's simply not true. We're progressing just as much if not more than before, just in different, usually more dense areas like neuroscience, nanoscience, artificial intelligence, and robotics. Just because we aren't achieving the next moon landing or h-bomb in those fields doesn't mean they aren't progressing at a steady rate. This wouldn't need explaining if people actually paid attention to them and learned enough to understand what's happening where they're interested instead of just waiting for the next monumental, history-making discovery. It's a problem of the education system not understanding this concept of scientific literacy, and the population being spoiled by the propagandized scientific sensationalism of the cold war.
Go watch Neil Tyson's we stopped dreaming video on youtube. It has the answers you seek.
>>73491902
they can do stuff in medicine that was in star wars 40 years ago. 3d printing mini brains to test drugs on, genomic sequencing will be pennies on the dollar soon, reviving the paralyzed with neural prosthetics. unfortunately even a billionaire would be hard pressed to utilize these technologies at this stage, but in 20 years they'll be commonplace.
>>73488952
What's funny about your picture, OP, is you have this huge megalopolis in the background but essentially 1950s level congestion on the highways.
>>73491597
Yes, it is nature's way, but how is that the good one? nature is brutal, it works but it's brutal, evolution is trial and error, but that is only one of the ways of solving a problem.
> Excess population
2 kids per couple, legal age to own a child is 25 ish, then people can be more mature when they have kids and don't fuck it up.
> Technological advancement
Cut down welfare and increase government-sponsored research into various fields and release said discoveries to the public for companies to develop into practical appliances.
the amount of GDP% spent on R&D is a pittance in most countries.
Eugenics will allow more efficient use of money thrown towards medicine, rather then maintaining lives of people born weak or unhealthy to live, spend less money on cancers as there will be less people with cancer.
it will also create more intelligent people and maintain a healthy gene pool.
and much more..
All these solutions are easily obtainable, but cultural and ethical struggles get in our way all the time, certain groups push these racial tensions and twisted ethics for their own monetary gains and it doesn't look this is going to go anywhere.
though another way, war I suppose would solve it but we can't have wars forever will we? a short term solution that is.
>>73492223
https://vault.fbi.gov/hottel_guy/Guy%20Hottel%20Part%201%20of%201/view
>>73488952
In very futuristic pic: driverless cars; weird shaped buildings; etc. Inside car in foreground: B&W TV.
Artist could imagine all the rest, but colour TV? Wow, that's crazy talk!
>>73488952
The Nazis lost.
>>73492223
>I wasn't at any point saying 'aliens' or 'tinfoil hat', im just curious so i asked for what evidence there was.
Well just google ''astronaut talks about ufo'' or something similar, i am sure you find something.
>Whilst im unlikely to believe any alien influence or any contact with aliens will happen in the course of humanity's existence, im happy to believe there is technology hidden if there is evidence for it.
Well who knows.
>>73492229
>In reality the shit in military black projects is at best 5 years beyond what we currently see.
Yeah right, we are talking about a gap that is greater then the gab between bow and arrows and rifles. It would be pointless to even put a number on it.
>>73491128
>>73491167
These two are closely related.
Shit skins always vote for big government because they are helpless, useless, lazy, corrupt pieces of shit.
>>73488952
The space race ended, and with it massive amounts of money that used to be spent on research are now spent on gibs me dat, war, and other useless garbage with nothing to show for it.
>>73488952
in the 40's-70's people took pride in their work and made things to last.
now people want to make money. They don't care how, they don't care why.
overcrowding makes people want to feel better than erryone else. They feel better than erryone else by having mo money and bright shiny things.
>>73488952
In America, at least, we declared war on the middle and working classes that would've driven demand and tooled up and skilled up for advancement.
>>73490982
>christians
>not saving science
Fuck off. Pic related.
>>73488952
Immigration
>>73492374
>in 20 years we'll all have flying cars
This is how stupid you sound
>>73490267
And yet americans lost vietnam, afghanistan, irak and so on.
>>73492374
>but in 20 years
>>73488952
A few facts wrong there: new antibiotics aren't limited by researchers or engineers, but by money. New a-b will cost many millions to develop and until we have lots of deaths from a-b resistance every day, the drug companies can't charge enough for the new a-b to make it worth their while. Which is crazy from a saving-lives point of view.
And what about green power? Wind turbines and solar panels have come ahead by leaps and bounds in the last 30 years.
>>73490189
Inflationary currency discourages long term investment. Regulations make it difficult to start businesses. The tax code forces you to keep your money in financial instruments instead of real property and other projects.
>>73489795
Ridiculous. Are you older than 16?
>>73492589
yeah because i'm talking about real trends in innovation not sci-fi movies you fucking blockhead.
>>73492385
Never said it's a good solution, but it's not like anything else has worked so far. All those high and mighty "morals" got us into the current mess we are in. While I see your points and the thought behind them, main issue is that it will never happen with the amount of welfare leeches and their "supporters" who can't go on without the thought that they're not a "good person", and so on.
>>73492520
>in the 40's-70's people took pride in their work and made things to last.
somewhat true, somewhat not true.
in 1960, a 20 year old car was a fucking joke. nobody in 1969 drove a 1949 car unless he wanted to be perceived as a nutty eccentric.
today? you barely notice a 1996 car on the road because they last much longer and are not very different in terms of technology.
on the other hand, up until cordless phones were developed, you would literally own the same phone for your whole life, if you didn't move. phones back then were indestructible for that reason. but they only did one thing. and they did it well. today you are considered odd if your phone is over two years old.
but, by any measure, today is vastly better than it was in those days.
>>73492770
Yeah sure brah and I'll have a nanorobot controlled immune system in just 50 years!
>>73492400
Just a record of what one investigator said, so it appears the fbi found a guy who heard that the air force was keeping aliens.
>>73491285
Just use darkies as soldiers. Nothing of value will have been lost :^)
>this entire fucking thread
if any of you spastics have grandkids, they'll laugh at you and having to wait 3 years for an operating system and the advent of touch screens.
>>73489987
>cars and planes are pretty much perfected, except for the transition to electrical power.
>medicine will continue to advance at a snail's pace.
>what else is there?
Perfected on a human level, anyway.
I can't find the fucking article, but a bunch of scientists allowed an algorithm to build radio devices.
They worked without antennae and with components that weren't even physically linked.
Once AI takes off, we'll have a lot of design beyond human comprehension.
Rapid prototyping and ever stronger simulations are really helpful here.
>>73488952
The only thing that has ever managed to stop progress in every civilization since the dawn of time, from Egypt to Persia to Greece to Babylon to Turkey to Spain:
Shitskins.
They enter each civilization like a disease, then outbreed the whites in that civilization until no high-IQ people are left to make progress.
Europe and America are merely the last islands of civilization in one great sea of dusky, thick-lipped subhumanity, and soon, very soon, they too will submerge.
And the end of complex civilization will be truly complete. Forget about asteroids. This was the threat all along, and we didn't see it coming until it was too late.
>>73491285
The holocaust was a good solution
>>73488952
it's only downhill from here, m8
>>73489987
Ah, found the article.
http://www.damninteresting.com/on-the-origin-of-circuits/
>tfw hoverboards still haven't been developed for the average consumer
>>73488952
Because people went to church. Today's society has no God. God and Sceince are one in the same without Him society progresses backwards.
Like my niggha Tokeville said "America was Great because Americas Weed was Good"
>>73492934
I wish you remembered that article. That sounds interesting.
>>73491817
If it ever gets to that point I imagine it will be a "star-trek" society where everyone gets gibs for free, because no one really needs to work.
The real answer is:
The internet. It's connected everything together and homogenized things. People are spoonfed the consensus on how to be and what to think.
Facebook/social media has created bigger awareness of the difference between a normie and an autist. Eccentrics and boffins now make a conscious effort to be normal which stifles their creativity. Only mentally ill people openly show themselves doing their own thing.
Piracy has disincentivized creative pursuits and made people consider creativity as fanciful and a meme.
People are also stale and often depressed in their thinking because they are looking at screens all the time.
>>73492623
Solar panels are fucking bullshit for use at scale. CST with molten sodium heat storage is a little better, but it's really only viable in predictably sunny places.
>>73491997
Just a tip. Those "aliens" are fallen angels.
>>73490965
That is unreal.
>>73488952
You can thank affirmative action for that, places like Nasa and tech companies are being filled with shitskins.
I'm trying to understand how the technology we have today isn't amazing. Shit that was purely science fiction is now reality. We have computers in our pockets. Instantaneous global communication. Self driving cars. Lasers that can actually kill things.
Where should we be in 2016? What should we have that we don't?
>>73491417
To leave you and your people live on this giant plantation until the brown people revolt and overthrow you...
Meanwhile we'll be dabbling in 4th and 5th dimensions and colonizing the universe like we were meant to do
>>73491050
>Still booming, don't you bongs notice? Hard Drives are becoming less common as SSDs begin to become common for PCs.
PCs barely have any moving parts anymore and air cooling is now so efficient that there's no direct advantage to water cooling and that even tablets can get fucking heat pipes with a hybrid of passive and active cooling.
Form factors are shrinking, CPUs have reached a plateau, but storage, memory and GPUs are still advancing at fuckspeed.
Building a PC is comfy as fuck nowadays.
There's also pic related. Getting into USEFUL electronics has never been easier.
Just buy an Arduino Leonardo and you can build your own fucking set of multimedia keys with an investment of about fourty bucks - If you don't have a soldering iron or any components yet.
>>73492209
look at america's powerhouse industrial city in the 70s vs now.
>>73493407
Printable girlfriends
>>73491817
Socialism.
We took the Pareto principle and fucked it in the ass with socialism and wealth redistribution.
>>73492934
>Once AI takes off, we'll have a lot of design beyond human comprehension.
that will probably be laughed at years from now, the same way we laugh at articles from the 50s saying that we would all have personal flying vehicles by the 80s.
AI is, and always will be artificial stupidity. the best it will ever do is be able to fool us into thinking it is a person. but as far as inventing something like a transistor, from basically nothing? nope.
computers will be able to research drugs and other chemicals at a rapid rate. but as for that day when a machine becomes sentient, that's sci-fi and always will be.
>>73492989
Olduvai theory. Pretty interesting. Seems plausible.
Scary stuff.
It's all internet. No one of you could remember when the last time he read book.
>>73493462
Therein lies the problem. We've basically handed all means of production (wafer fabrication, manufacture of electronic components) to the Chinese and Koreans... We just GAVE it to them so we can use their slave labor.
That's when progress died and it became consumer driven
>>73493535
I read 'Things Fall Apart' last week.
>>73493535
>No one of you could remember when the last time he read book.
I'm currently re-reading To Kill a Mockingbird. it's rather quaint in its idealistic 60s version of race relations in the usa.
>>73491591
Ok, niggers, buckle up and fucking listen:
VR is NOT just another fucking gimmick. The way it works is very simplistic.
It tracks your head movement and transfers it into the simulation, with a lag of less than 20 milliseconds.
The result is that your brain thinks that you are inside of the simulation. Just because of this one simple trick.
And that is fucking huge. There's a lot of shit you can do with it.
From therapy, over looking at an apartment before you buy it, to VR games.
Now, the hype is retarded (No, you will not have VR movies, because the entire point of VR is that you can look around freely. And no, you won't play all games on it, because it fucking deprives you of your awareness of your surroundings), but it will definitely become a mainstay technology.
However, AR will be more pervasive. It will invade every facet of our daily lives. You will have information everywhere in a package that has absolutely no intrusiveness.
Real and virtual will merge slowly.
>shitskins are holding our technology back
Never change /pol/
>>73489987
>2016
> Any perfect technology
Top fucking kek lad
>>73493697
yeah feeding and housing millions of net losses for the state sure has colonized the moon real fast hasn't it?
>>73492138
>Hurrrrr mining the moon
Even after the next 1000 years of humans stripping earth of resources, it will still not be worth the transport costs to move materials from the moon to the earth. There are no elements on the moon that aren't already on Earth. We are closer to discovering how to synthesize heavy metals like Pt, Au, and U using fusion than we are to making space vehicles that can mine and transport minerals to Earth.
I say all this admitting that Space Engineers is in fact my favorite PC game.
>>73493673
> "Wow i can look around like im in an apartment! Better than actually going, this way i can walk two steps in any direction or immersively use a controller to walk around whilst just using my head for tilt."
Also I've used a set for a game and it was just a shitty on rails zombie shooter.
It won't take off at all.
>>73488952
>get mildly better iphones
here's you problem, you iSheeple fuck --
stop buying regurgitated crap as an increasingly higher prices, just to be keep up with the Normies, and perhaps companies will be incentivised to innovate, rather than milk garbage
>>73493697
Yeah, that's what I came here to say...
>>73490982
yes we know shlomo, christians are the only problem and you are the only victim.
>>73493510
Have you even read my fucking post?
I'm talking about AI-based design. Which is already being tested and already edges on human comprehension, as you can see in this article:
>>73492993
>>73488952
Leftists.
>>73489119
Was looking to find "the Jews"... But that's OK.
>>73493904
You cannot possibly tell me that you aren't a Canadian living in Straya who's using a proxy.
>>73493927
>uses the terms "sheeple" and "normie"
Dude nice trenchcoat.
>>73493842
What about Helium 3? If not transporting it down to Earth it could be like a space port or something.
It was largely looted from Germany, also the 80's the jewish neo gained control of most of the western countries.
>>73493830
>colonizing a tiny barren rock
>not happening because muh immigration
>>73493997
>Have you even read my fucking post?
yes. I read that article years ago and it is very interesting. but it merely supports what i said about your post: computers will be better at humans when it comes to finding a needle in a haystack, but no computer will ever decide to look for a needle in a haystack without being programmed to do so.
by that i mean that the best AI in the world that is programmed to find a cure for cancer will never change its mind and write a great song. that's what sentience means.
progress in the 2000 became synonym with ''Steve Jobs''.
aka fashion products that pass for technological advantages, when they really aren't
so yeah, progress has stopped because technology is now fashion
>>73494197
Well, duh.
As long as we don't build a general AI, we won't have a general AI.
But how does that refute the statement that we'll have hardware design on a level incomprehensible to humans?
You seem to agree that AIs are perfect for tasks that require condensed superhuman autism.
>>73488952
Ya'll need a Space Elevator thread.
Between computers, the internet, and hand held devices each with more computing power than all the computers in 1970 combined, several times over, this is a hard argument to make.
It is true that, since the moon landing, we don't really do "big" projects anymore - with the exception of some impressive particle colliders. People, in this age, are not willing to invest in generations more than one beyond their own. We've become too hedonistic to act on the survival of mankind in the long term. Gone are the days of super-dams, sweeping international highway systems, and world altering projects (the internet arguably being the last of them). Now, the only hope is that a series of small projects will add up to the grandeur of the past, and the fact that we can do so many things faster than ever before will compensate for the fact that no one gives a shit what will happen after they are dead.
>>73490982
Top Kek. Yeah because only the people who practised Christianity are capable of advancement in science.
>>73494071
>What about Helium 3
Helium-3 is a product of tritium decay, and tritium can be produced through neutron bombardment of deuterium, lithium, boron, or nitrogen targets. Production of tritium in significant quantities requires the high neutron flux of a nuclear reactor; breeding tritium with lithium-6 consumes the neutron, while breeding with lithium-7 produces a low energy neutron as a replacement for the consumed fast neutron.
If you really need it you can make it on earth.
>>73488952
the extraterrestrials went home
>>73494070
nice prevarication revealing your guilt, pauper's grave filler fagget
>>73488952
Medicine isn't progress, it's regress. It allows the stupidest most useless people to survive and reproduce at everyone else's expense.
If anyone here is pre-med, get out of that shit now. You're causing the decline.
>>73494332
>But how does that refute the statement that we'll have hardware design on a level incomprehensible to humans?
that will probably happen. but as for a machine doing anything remotely like the ability of a four year old child's thinking process, maybe in a million years, but not in our lifetime
>>73488952
Because it was stopped, it didn't stop on its own.
>>73494524
>Because it was stopped, it didn't stop on its own.
how do broken people like you function?
>>73494243
>aka fashion products that pass for technological advantages
it wasn't even new tech, he just packed in already available products in a white hull called it ixxx and the cult bought it.
>tablets were a thing before the ipad
>mp3 player were a thing before ipod
>smartphones were a thing before iphone
>>73488952
Less war
>>73494197
>>73494332
All ya gotta do is simulate a human brain, and make the simulation run faster than a human brain, give it total control over its virtual environment, and enough data space to reproduce, as well as sufficiently stimulating artificial environment to sustain all that. *poof* General AI, that's better than yours.
Granted, that's all a long ways away, but to say "never" is just silly - it's all conceivably within reach, it's only a matter of time. One way or the other, AI is coming - barring a dark age or a global disaster wiping us out before then.
>>73490542
Why did the Egyptians keep astronomy a secret?
>>73493535
I've read more books since I bought a smartphone than I had read before that time. I'm 33. Between e-books and audio books, I own around 300. Those wouldn't fit on my shelf today.
I think the problem isn't that we aren't reading. It's that we're reading too much and not dreaming enough.
>>73494500
Priceless.
>>73488952
Based on my PhD in Civilization 5, the united states has already collected at least 1 of every luxury on the map and the level of happiness isn't increasing in proportion to the rising population. Because we have a net negative happiness, production is down by like 15-25% and we have too many worker and military units pulling from the gold. The level of gold has been net negative for several turns and rebel BLM rioters are now attacking cities.
If we have any conquered cities overseas we need to build courthouses. And if we're talking about the Brave New World expansion pack We also need to build our culture up to unlock the Order ideology tree and get more happiness through the +2 happiness for each monument unlock.
But with Trump there's going to be an 8 turn golden age so that should help. The Wall of Trump wonder should help boost the culture, unlock a free policy, give a big boost to happiness, and help control the raiding barbarians to the south.
>>73488952
There's a kind of absolute cap to how far we can progress based on the composition of resources here on Earth and the capacity of our brains themselves. We've just about reached that max capacity for advancement.
>inb4 hurr durr you're a nigger that's what people thought 5000 years ago and they were wrong
>>73494676
>but to say "never" is just silly
true.
have you heard the one about having a machine to take a tiny bit of your brain at a time, and simulate it until your brain was the same as before. repeat this until your entire brain has been replaced by a machine. and that machine is now you.
pure horseshit, but interesting idea.
>>73494786
oops wrong pic.
>>73494514
I don't see why our progress would suddenly stop.
They might not reach the energy efficiency of a brain in a while, but you can always just scale them up to room-level.
>>73494581
Is basic English a problem for you or is it just so fucking fantastical to you that people don't want to see the status quo upset?
Maybe you forgot Three Mile Island and the science-fear craze between the 60s and 70s because you're an underage newfag and don't know shit about your own fucking history?
Are are you a Canadian with a proxy?
