Real talk: how did America get away with this?
How do you go about punishing somebody willing to drop atomic bombs on people?
Bonus Question: How do you punish people willing to turn a dozen countries into bombed out hell holes when you are one of those hell holes?
>>73478939
Well the idea was that by bombig Japan they would safe lives. Because the invasion itself would cost up to 1 million usa lives and even more Japanese lives
So by bombing and thus ending the war they have safed a lot of lives.
>>73478939
They were given clearly defined instructions for surrendering.
They didn't follow the instructions.
>>73478939
Obviously by winning the war.
>>73478939
with a b29
By making more
>>73478939
By declaring war. The problem now is, nobody has the balls to use them again.
>>73481272
You don't need to use them again, the point has been proven.
USA #1
GOD BLESS AMERICA
>>73478939
>Be 1945 America
>Going to nuke Japan
>We could nuke any place of Japan
>Major Shekeltein interrumpts
>"I know lets choose the only two cities with christian population"
>
>>73478939
By warning Nips about it if they don't surrender.
>>73479392
>believing this bullshit propaganda
They won the war that's why they got away with it. They were the only ones with nukes literally no one could do anything to them.
>>73481456
But the jews controll the media, so nobody knows about this
>>73478939
>gooks witnessed the horror of nuclear warfare firsthand
>they still don't surrender
>America had to do it twice
Crazy ass Japs
>>73481457
So you target civilian populations you terrorist?
>>73478939
Uhhhh, they had nukes and no one else did at the time. That's how they got away with it.
>>73478939
By being part of a world-conquering military coalition, of course.
>>73481730
>it's not a war crime if they do it for democracy and freedom
>>73481730
if they didn't want to get nuked they shouldn't have been godless slant-eyed gooks
USA
S
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>>73481564
They won the war because of the nukes. The japs were zealots and a mainland invasion would have cost MILLIONS of casualties on both sides. You don't even have to look at "propaganda" to see this if you look at Okinawa and Iwo Jima, our troops got shredded on the islands. Before the nukes fell we hadn't even tried fro a full scale invasion because we wanted a better alternative
>>73481730
Christian majority civilians.
You can thank Israel for that.
Welcome to ZOG motherfucker.
>>73481335
Flag noted, the bombs dropped on Japan were low yield. People forget. There's no reason to not use them again. I can think of a few places that could use a refresher.
>Launch a surprise attack against a much stronger country
>Be generally savage little cunts who commit widespread atrocities
>Promote fighting to the death
>Wah wah why did big mean USA nuke them
I wonder what our white guilt would be like had we lost the war after dropping the bombs
>>73478939
Frendly reminder who is responsible for the bomb existing in the first place
>>73482086
>stein
OY VEY
THEY KNOW
SHUT IT DOWN
>>73481730
The only had 2 working nukes
>>73481947
>surprise attack
Yeah right
>>73481866
You could have blockaded their ports and starve them out. Japan was done for. Their Kwantung army was on the verge of destruction by the Red Army, all their allies had been defeated, there were many internal calls for peace-- Japan was effectively castrated and there was no pressing need for an invasion of the Japanese home islands.
The nukes were used to cuck Stalin out of getting leverage in the peace negotiations (it was his army that defeated the colonial units after all) and force an unconditional surrender to the US and you fucking know it.
>>73482082
Would have been completely impossible to lose after every enemy nation has surrendered lmao
>>73481937
We will follow you greatest ally.
>>73478939
Real Talk: How is America getting away with this?
>pic related
>>73481947
>Be "neutral" in war
>Embargo one side while supplying weapons to the other side
>Your ships get blown up
>Scream about the "unprovoked aggression"
It's like the Lusitania all over again.
>>73482481
We haven't yet. We are working on it. Also, is this a typical drive to work down under?
>>73482645
>>73478939
we (america and europe) were fucking up japan a long time before the nukes hit
>>73481730
>Civilians
>Total War
Nice try. Oh and build wall.
>>73478939
DEAL WITH NIP FUCKIN SHITS
>>73479392
Why didn't they drop them outside of a major city to show them they had nukes?
>>73482787
I Fucking love you guys. If only you could have guns.
>>73482518
Stop pointing out the kike menace without naming them, FFS.
>>73482787
that's a cute snake
>>73482831
Civilians aren't supposed to be targeted. That's literally what separates terrorism from war.
>>73479392
>>73479996
>>73480674
All three of these are correct. Also the firebombing of Tokyo killed more than both atom bombs combined
>>73478939
I'd rather end the war sooner and at the cost of less lives thanks
>>73482960
we can just no fun ones
>>73479126
You don't. Any nation that actually can do that, can't be stopped.
There's a reason we're the best.
Last time we had a topic like this we transitioned from the weak propaganda excuses that we're already reading now to:
>WHATEVER MAN WE USED NUKES ON CIVILIANS WHO GIVES A SHIT USA USA USA WE PROUD OF WHAT WE DID FUCK INTEGRITY WHEN YOU CAN BE BADASS LMFAO WE WON THE WAR WE ARE RIGHT IF YOU'VE GOT THE WEAPON YOU SHOULD USE THEM THAT'S REAL POLITICS PLAYING DIRTY IS GOOD IF YOU WIN IN THE END
Just remember that most burgers are not reliable on this.
>>73483313
100% this
>>73482831
Well, it definitely helped that at the time we were the only country with them, and nobody else knew that they were the only two we had on hand. Nobody was going to say shit when they could potentially be next.
That having been said, the use of the bombs was justified. We dropped flyers over the cities we nuked for days prior to the nuking- pic related- and the Japanese simply didn't heed them. The losses in the two cities were nothing compared to the losses both sides would have endured in a more conventional land battle.
>>73481654
>had to do it twice
The operation was a feild test. The two bombs represented two different engineering solutions.
>>73483299
You are not the best. I used to think the US was good because of the cash you have due to your jewish blood, but the domestic problems in your nation are horrendous.
You are like the dude who calls out people for not being big and strong, but in the end your size came from your fatness. Eventually you die because of your obesity.
>>73483313
It's weird, usually american on /pol/ don't follow propaganda narrative, but with this most post stuff in this way. Maybe is guilt?
Everyone knows the nukes were used as excuse to be sole occupier of Japan. It was a geopolitical move.
>>73483048
The firebombing kill only eighty thousand people. The combined nukes killed 160 thousand.
>>73478939
Gooks got what they deserved. Just like Dresden.
>>73481564
if you dont believe that "propoganda", you literally have no education on ww2
probably because you got blown to hell sucking all that nazi cock.
>>73482193
yo nigger shlob dinger, the russians werent in negotiation or peace talks.
fife nigger funk
iirc, the russians not only refused peace talks with japan, but also with allied powers, essentially forcing truman to make a move, or have to handle yet another war with the russians.
>nuke 2 cities, killing roughly 100k people, but end the war and make russia look like the violent thugs they are
or
>let russia decimate japan, giving them land, while we piddle about in the ocean the russians couldnt give two shits about.
we nuked them, ended the war early, and saved the lives of the japanese and the russian tools that wouldve marche din.
get over yourself faggot. you know fucking nothing.
maybe the japs shouldnt have fucked up the entirety of southeast asia. they had it coming.
>>73483552
When you grow up being told that your country is the hero of the west, it's not easy to accept you can sometimes be a villain like every human society was, is and will always be. Evil is part of us.
>>73483034
Says who? Not us. And us is all that matters.
>>73483944
its posts like this that are making brits lean toward supporting russia in WW3
>>73478939
By being the winners, the most powerful country in the world, and having a Jew-controlled media.
>>73483034
say that to the japs in regards to SE asia and all the civilians they killed, captured, tortured, experimented on, raped, exploited, labored and humiliated
>>73483552
i would almost wager that had russia gone into a land conflict, the war would have eventually turned against russia, since the war was beocming better documented. one might say that russia's face was saved in that its power level and atrocities werent exposed to the world liek it would have been had you taken japan and been put in charge of reforming it.
im willing to bet that if russia had taken japan, the rest of asia would have turned onto japan/russia, seeing as it was a eurasian incursion from the christian world, plus the fact that russia played almost no part in retaking and pushing japan out of SE asia.
pass the tpp
>>73484113
>cant handle the banter
>>73479392
So they bombed a civilian target, instead of going for military ones until Japan surrendered. The truth is, they wanted to see the effects of a nuke unleashed on an urban center. They got their wish.
>>73483276
Sorry broseph. Still love ya tho.
No homo.
>>73483400
>drop leaflets in shitton of cities because psy-warfare
>don't mention atomic bombs
>just a random bombing guise xd
>don't even know what the fuck those nukes are going to do
>just drop them anyway champ! [opens a bottle of Miller]
>oh wait we actually didn't even drop the leaflets in Hiroshima
>shit man we forgot the fucking leaflets
>nigga sheeeeeeeeeit
>>73484420
nice outdated design and cartridge you got there senpai
>>73478939
It's not a hard question.
In the same war there were another guy that kill a few jews. They just create an interpretation were this little jew killer and his friends were the most horrible human beings in history and spread it with mass media. It's what every facist goverment do, even to win the elections. Like in my full-of-idiot-people-county
>>73484200
>say that to the japs in regards to SE asia and all the civilians they killed, captured, tortured, experimented on, raped, exploited, labored and humiliated
You mean the same Japs that your good democratic government granted pardon and asylum to after the war in exchange for their loyalty and research data?
>the rest
Damn, you sure are brainwashed and ignorant. Typical burger.
>>73484200
Wtf are you talking about, you retard? Take your pills. It's so stupid and incoherent I can't even reply to it.
>>73484537
Thanks. I like it. It goes bang.
>>73478939
Because nobody cares about Japan.
>>73478939
By aeroplane
>>73483558
your figure for firebombing of tokyo is on the low end. top end is 100k.
nukes go from 100k to 160k ... or even 220k if you includes deaths up to several years after the war.
note also that the top 60+ cities in japan had an average of 50% buildings etc destroyed by firebombing and conventional bombs. the human toll was modest by comparison.
>>73483627
sadly, this.
>>73482086
Einstein didn't have much to do with the bomb.
It was mostly Oppenheimer and Teller being the driving forces.
In Germany Heisenberg was quite fond of the idea of getting a bomb, too, but the Nazis gave enough funding to their nuclear projects to hire only 70ish people (less than half of whom were concerned with a nuclear bomb), compared to the Manhattan project, which had thousands of workers behind it.
Morale: Physicists are autistic assholes who will create doomsday devices if you leave them to it.
>>73478939
Japan denied the Potsdam Declaration, knowing full well what the consequences would be. The United States was justified in its use of the atomic bomb.
>>73478939
Get away with what?
Are you so blue pill that you think there is some global police force that enforces some kind of global law?
If a someone is strong enough they can do what they like.
No one went to war to stop the holocaust.
No one went to war to stop Iraq or Afghanistan.
If the American government decided to kill all the Muslims no country would stop them except the ones being killed.
Justifying action is a joke, if you win your justified.
>>73482086
You do realize how he was depressed when he discovered that his study was used for war?
He didn't create the nukes, he only studied physics. His studies were later used by others for different goals.
>>73484816
(((((Physicists))))))
>>73478939
be happy we didn't nuke tokyo/kyoto
you started a war with us. we ended it.
>>73482904
DELETE THIS!
>>73484346
>bombing another port, killing roughly 230 gooks, 2 or 3 ships, dragging the wa ron and on til the point of everyone developing nukes and nuking eachother because muh feelings
or
>nuking 2 highly public cities, killing a fraction of the civilians the japs were responsible for killing, shocking japan to the point of crying mercy and ending the war before it snowballed into a fucking disaster
i doubt the full intention was to hit an urban center, but yea, ok, it probably played a part in the decision.
>>73484636
>nuke civilian cities
>then whip them into slavery and imprisonment????
typical russian move
which proves that the rest of my post makes sense because
>>73484650
this gypsy cant even think up a decent response.
what youre basically saying is that, had the US not nuked japan and taken over, pardoning the faggots, so long as they bent to our will and stopped being hard ass nips
the russians would have taken over, brutalized the people, and that somehow would have been a better solution that wouldnt have eventually blown up in russias face, beckoning global retribution?
nigga yous mad
>>73484874
>to kill all the Muslims
>flag
>the mayor of the capital
>>73484890
>flag
He never studied physics you asswagon. He literally sucked at general mathematics growing up and worked a post office, where he stole the research mailed from research journals and managed to put 2 and 2 together.
Fucking jews.
>>73483299
Yeah you really saved us by doing that pfffff... come and help us get rid of the muzzies and their joo overlords instead of bragging about your mistake.
>>73482904
>>73483034
civilians on all sides were targeted, and have been throughout history
>>73485048
lol look at this flyover
hows life in a treeville, pop: 4?
>>73485137
>>73483034
>>73482904
99.9+% of the world will be targeted in ww3, including most animals and minerals
>>73481730
>So you target civilian populations you terrorist?
I wish you fucks did declare war on the US, then there wouldn't be so many spics in the US. Apparently one ass kicking wasn't enough.
>>73482904
Murrica dropped leaflets on cities that were potential targets to the atomic bomb. They wanted to see how much damage it does to cities and not civilians.(They tested radiation on biological life on pigs.)
>>73485296
yo, furreal tho, they have enough churros to cripple the US
those fuckers hurt when they get all dry and hard.
you ever fought against a beaner with a churro?
you ever had a stale churro shot at you from a rail gun?
>>73478939
USA had more bombs left.
>>73481930
>>73482086
International jewry won WW2
>>73485044
Would Russia go to war for them?
Seriously, who would even put sanctions on the yanks.
London mayors are a joke m8. Ken Livingstone, Boris Johnson, now this clown. London hasn't had a real mayor since Dick Whittington.
>>73481651
The jews didn't control it in 1945. They were still in camps. Duh
>>73485296
This is all I want.
>Trump gets elected
>Demands that a wall is build and that Mexico pays for it
>Mexico refuses
>USA sends their troops to their borders
>Things escalate and a war starts
>Europe,Russia and China join the war on the Mexican side
>Israel and SA join America
>We fuck up Israel.America and SA in one war
> No more American imperialism, Saudis maslim extermism and jews in one swoop
> All live happily ever after
>>73483299
Who is posting these
I made these Abe things in like 2007 and suddenly I've seen 2 here in a week
>>73478939
By winning
>>73483313
Who cares? We stopped selling them our oil because they were raping the shit out of China and Korea, so they bombed us. Then we fought back and they did everything in their power, knowing full well that they could never win to kill as many American's as possible. When we took back every Island and were right outside their door we offered them peace but they refused. They were lucky there was only 2 bombs, they wanted to assassinate their emperor and keep the war going but they eventually got their head out of their asses and surrendered like they should have a long time into the war.
>>73478939
pearl harbor
>>73481456
They choose the cities based on weather that day from a list of targets
>>73485636
>>Europe,Russia and China join the war on the Mexican side
Europe seems to be bracing for an incoming war with Russia. I hope we don't get involved but I know we will. China and the US rely heavily on trade and wouldn't want to get into a war with each other but if you're so sympathetic to Mexicans, by all means, take them off our hands.
>>73485648
Does it say 4chan.co.uk?
I didn't think so
>>73484901
I'm well aware that the first atomic bombs were very Jewish in origin. But it has to be asked whether the Jewish over-representation in the bomb is that much bigger than Jewish over-representation in 20th century theoretical physics anyway.
Relativity is Jewish. The groundwork of quantum physics: quantum mechanics, is Aryan, in my opinion, but the offshoots: Quantum electrodynamics, quantum chromodynamics and string theory are all largely Jewish.
The interesting thing about the bomb is that it was an engineering marvel, too. Jews aren't that good at engineering. Einstein was the best theoretical physicist of last century, but Rutherford was the best experimentalist, and was said to be the best since Faraday (both of whom are Aryan). Aryans are very often the people constructing the extremely complex tests which can detect theoretical physics predictions. So Jews can be proud of the bomb in the sense that it was a good engineering achievement for them, which is a bit of a change.
>>73481937
low yield, but very durty
>>73486099
what makes you think europe is going to war with russia?
>>73486245
it was engineered so well because it was american made
>>73485048
>math
>physics
It uses math but isn't math
>>73482193
Nukes were also used to prevent loss of life. After the intial confusion and shock of banzai charges, they were easily defeated. But the holdouts on the island were harder to deal with.
Not to mention the inevitable invasion casualties.
>>73483502
You know how stupid it is to say that Americans are overweight? It's stupid because it's never been done before. It's stupid because the fact that the majority of americans have "problems" with weight, has never been said of any society ever. It's because success is no longer dependent on physical health. It's sad, because if the rest of the world had an "obesity problem", I could almost guarantee that they wouldn't be poor.
>>73487330
Being obese has little to do with wealth but with shitty culture and eating habits. Many developing countries also have that problem because they eat shit junk food.
>>73487001
But the engineering design solutions were thought up by the Jews like Teller and Ulam.
It's not exactly clear to me if the Soviets hit upon their own successful designs, or whether they were stolen from the US via espionage. Assuming they hit upon them themselves, it was probably Sakharov who did them, but even that isn't certain to me. It may have been a Jew like Zeldovich.
Details of who created the successful designs for the UK project are even less well-known. The UK progam was seemingly headed by two Aryans, Penney (who was particularly admired by General Groves) and Cockroft, but I think it quite likely that they delegated much of the work to other scientists.
I assume the French design was thought up by Jews, because Israel reportedly got its own nuclear arsenal via "French" scientists telling them how to do it.
>>73488224
Didn't US just share their nuke technology with you?
>jp gf
>sometimes we role play
>the other day while fucking her she lit said "ruin my pussy like you ruined hiroshima!"
>dick became harder than diamonds
>>73488459
Only after we demonstrated that we could build a thermonuclear bomb independently of them.
They were supposed to share their secrets with us after the war ended, but they didn't, probably due to their own desire to want to hold all the power, and their justified worry about the infiltration of British science teams by communists like Klaus Fuchs (who despite being a commie, was one of the greatest scientists that joined the Manhattan Project from Britain).
The UK team managed to construct a H-bomb with a lot less money than the US team, so I think the US team were interested in how they did it. And indeed, there were a few innovations hit upon by the British that the Americans hadn't thought of, IIRC. Although the overall design quality of the US one was superior, I think, so the British benefited from getting to use it.
Because if anyone had a problem with it we would do it to them too. All you third worlders out there be thankful you allow you to live
>>73481827
Butthurt butterkraut
>>73482160
Pearl Harbor Heinrich
>>73482193
shit son i've read about that jap who thought the war was still going like 20-40 years later and even killed some dudes while he was in the jungle surviving.
>>73489802
Yeah I've heard of that as well
japs are fucking crazy
>>73490133
yea thats why if you invaded shit would of been a big fucking massacre.
>>73488880
>They were supposed to share their secrets with us after the war ended
This never happened. Only once it became obvious that multiple NATO members were going after the bomb did nuclear sharing even become a thing and that was to strengthen ties and keep the US and UK from wasting energy doing separate research and development.
>>73485636
>Russia joins Mexico over Trump's America
top kek
If WW3 begins under Trump, America and Russia will form an alliance that will be invincible.
Also your country only exists because we saved you useless pussies, ungrateful fuck.
>>73481456
Japan doesn't have Christians, they worshiped their god emperor and coconuts
>>73486173
>>73491323
No American soldier stepped on Slovenian soil during ww1 or ww2. NONE. You didn't do jack shit for us. There isn't a single stature dedicated to American soldier in Slovenia but there are quite a lot dedicated to Russians. They were the ones who helped. So please stfu and vote Trump so it can begin.
ps.: Russia will never help America over Europe. No matter how much we hate "each other" brother is still a brother and foreigner is foreigner.
>>73488880
Hey numb nuts, how did USA end up in the war? You guys needed shit right? We supplied more shit than gold in return butterteeth.
They sacrificed a few hundred thousand to save multiple millions. Obvious choice, it had to be made.
>>73480773
Underrated
>>73491633
> vote Trump
the only thing that coherently made sense
>>73478939
Why didn't the Nips surrender after the first nuke?
inb4 surrender monkey jokes.
>>73478939
literally no one was in any shape to care even if they did
>>73481730
>>73481827
>war crime
Lel
Niggas actually think ther s rules
>>73492360
Ofc there are rules, just not for you barbarians. No honour in you fucks
>>73492522
Il be sure to read the war handbook, just incase i do something that may be unfair or mean.
>>73492671
Let's face it. You fucks have no clue what war is. You have never experinced one on your soil in the last what 200 years...
And yes you should read the fucking war book. That's what people with honour do. Not drop fucking atomic bombs on civilians. Dick fart.
>>73492793
no point arguing with burgers.
they're dumb enough to be illegal
>>73482481
Trump heil
Because of their military power and you know, fucking nukes?
If some guy comes into a shop and opens fire with a machine gun would you tell him to stop if you're unarmed?
>>73492360
Niggah the only people that care about war crimes are the losers. The winners get to rewrite history.
>Dresden happened
>barely a peep, if any
>invasion of Okinawa
>had more casualties than both bombs combined
>never brought up
>nukes dropped on gooks
>ANOTHER HOLOCAUSTU! USA BAD GUY, LONG TIME!
>>73481866
kek
stupid brainwashed amerifat
you burst into tears when you watched that shit propaganda pearl harbour didnt you?
>>73484346
Hiroshima was a military target. A bunch of important military assets got destroyed by the bombing.
The winner not only gets to write history but also gets to write morality itself
>>73484494
To be fair, telling people that you've developed a single bomb that could wipe out a city would get you skeptical stares.
The Japs didn't believe it, hell even the majority of Americans, solder and civilian didn't believe it.
Even after dropping 2 nukes on the Nips and wiping 2 cities of the face of the earth, their military still wanted to fight the Americans cause they thought it was made up.
"A city wiped out by a single bomb? ridiculous you must be over exaggerating. its probably destroyed a single block and that's it."
>>73485625
Which camps?
>>73490393
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quebec_Agreement
You signed an agreement saying you'd share the secrets, but reneged on it, with some justification.
>>73497026
And here is the info-sharing agreement signed once the UK had demonstrated capability of building a thermonuclear weapon independent of the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_US%E2%80%93UK_Mutual_Defence_Agreement
>>73493608
>>73492793
MUH honor!!
Fuck off losers. You haven't experienced shit on your soil either
Muh heritage
Muh ancestors
Keep pretending your some reincarnated citizen of an older era.
>>73496642
the ones you made. Don't fucking even think of writing they didn't exist you fack face. My grand mothers brother was in one of it (not a jew tho)
>>73478939
Because they won, the axis was defeated. That's pretty much it. It's not like Britain or Russia was going to say anything after what they did in Germany.
>>73498129
We had war 25 years ago you dick face. I was 6 at the time and my father fought in it. I damn know what war is. Then we had a first row tickets to slaughter show that happened in croatia and bosnia.
>>73498326
>I was 6 at the time
>my father fought in it
>I damn know what war is
Because Japan is a top economy with a good standard of living. This is one important aspect people ignore, and why japanese internment on the west coast also is forgiven.
They got whipped, but got their shit together since then and have nothing to complain about. Only niggers blame other groups for their disadvantages, rather than improving the community from within.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki both held critical industrial functions that fueled the Japanese war machine.. Fucking blue-pilled cucks.
>>73483502
Sensing some jealousy over here, roo fucker.
>they hate us cause they aint us
