OK, pol...has any male poster here maintained a virgin until marriage and married a virgin?
is it possible?
>>73419609
That's what I plan to do. Will he hard to find a wife who wasn't deflowered at the age of 15 though.
>>73420345
its funny how standards have changed, in the start of the 20th century is was expected for both parties entering marrige to be virgins, now its extremly rare and one of the bigger problems is stigma of male virginity (for females there is also a stigma but less pronounced)
>>73420614
My parents were from the "silent generation" and what I gather from them is that back in the 50-60s all the guys that wanted to would lose their virginity would fuck the local slut (whom was often well known and publicly ostracized for their behavior).
Think of it as the opposite of the 80% women sleeping with 20% of men meme.
I thought the big jump was at 2+ partners, not 1+.
>>73419609
I'm sorry, anon, but statistics suggest that if you are a virgin now then chances are that's how you will remain. Congrats on being a permavirgin and don't be shy to embrace the label.
>>73422752
Source on that one?
Public school, university and the modern wage labor system RUINED young , virgin marriage forever.
you're supposed to be able to marry and be a responsible adult at 16-18 but the school system delays development to keep you as an impressionable child as long as possible.
there wasn't even such a thing as a "Teenager" 100 years ago. The whole concept is a Jewish lie.
>>73423452
The archives of /pol/ provide ample evidence of the inescapability of permavirginhood for nearly all posters here.
>>73423516
Yeah, you already said that. Also, blame Hollywood. We should have segregated schools back.
>>73423605
Yeah... Statistics...
>>73419609
Well I'm a kissless handholdless virgin but not by choice. Doubt I'll ever marry due to how useless I am.
>>73424026
even with segregated schools parents simply don't even give young marriage as an option to their kids. In fact its seen as shameful and "backwards" to even consider marrying before 21. The whole fight against "teenage pregnancy" is actually a war on the family.
It was better when if you had sex with your girlfriend at 16 you were forced to get married and both families would support it, or better yet marriages were arranged such that this wouldn't happen.
>>73419609
My girlfriend and I are both still virgins and plan to stay so until our marriage next year.
(I will be 22 and she will be 21 then)
It's probably not easy to find one, even in religious circles these days, but I'd say that there's where your chances are highest.
>>73424026
Is it just me lads or have the Germans been making some exceptionally stupid posts today?
>>73424631
the idea is that you're not even supposed to live together as boyfriend/girlfriend at all until you're married.
>>73424772
Oh, we don't.
We live in the same town, but that's it
Impossible if you or your spouse are good looking and not complete religious nutjobs (i.e. stupid)
Enjoy your life
Giving a shit about this kind of societal fabricated nonsense is warping your minds
>>73424354
I don't think that forced marriages are such a great idea. When you had them, divorce just wasn't an option. Today it is. I think that people need some maturity to chose a partner who is good for them. Some people may have that with 16, some with 22. But what you absolutely not need is sexual experience. We should focus on a higher deflowering age rather than an earlier marriage age.
>>73424652
It's May 8th. Fuck this day.
>>73425004
that's falling right into the trap of delayed development. Biologically people WANT to have sex at 16-20. This won't magically change, and in the past abstinence to 25-30 wasn't that common. Better to marry early than burn with lust end end up doing worse.
And especially given how porn, media and school will give people "sexual experience" and ruin true innocence even without sex, better to marry young before the mind is ruined to the point of basically not being a virgin (99% of all "virgins" on 4chan aren't mentally virgins because they used porn before they had sex)
>>73425521
>Biologically people WANT
Yeah, but what I am suggesting is called CIVILIZATION. It's all about the deferral of gratification for a greater good. Of course it is tough. But if you have some decency or virtues you can easily make it to 25 or so.
>>73426169
I'm not just talking about having sex, I'm talking about even knowing how it works at all or seeing images of it AT ALL.
seeing porn even once means you're really not a virgin. If you even know how it works you're ruined in a way. The point is when you marry you are supposed to not even know what the opposite sex looks like naked. That's what virginity is REALLY about and it practically doesn't exist outside of isolated communities today
>>73426516
Nah. Having actual sex is a whole other league than watching porn. It's like you are comparing playing CoD with killing people irl. Society can't stop kids from playing CoD at the age of 12. It also can't stop them from watching porn at 12. But what it can do is teaching them virtues so that they don't take the fiction to their reality.
>>73427133
I think you're underestimating the real damage porn does.
not to mention that once VR takes off this line will be even more blurred
>>73427248
>I think you're underestimating the real damage porn does.
Porn has been around since we could make cave painting but the difference is now there is much more of it and in a greater variety. Plus its incredibly easy for children to access it and most are never taught the virtues morals to put the scenes into context of reality. Porn and Sexual culture get to the kids before the parents do
My first exposure to porn was about 9 or 10 and a friend of mine had a "Penthouse" in his Tree House.
It wasn't until my introduction to internet porn (circa 13-14) that I developed more deviant preferences.
>>73419609
In our country, only die hard Catholics do that. The average girl has already fucked the local soccer player Chad a time or two by the time she's 18.
>>73427248
I agree that there is a problem with porn. And I also don't like the idea of a future wife having watched porn in her life. But that problem is in terms of the stability of marriage by far not as big as early sex. Most people know the difference between fiction and friction. Also with basic virtues being taught in schools porn use will decrease. And not teaching basic biological facts is just madness.
>>73427248
>I think you're underestimating the real damage porn does.
like which?
>>73427983
the internet in general is really the destruction of society, not just porn (see dating sites, women can have real sex as easily as men can find porn)
the internet really has to be destroyed to actually fix marriage and the family
>>73419609
I'm a virgin but its the jews fault
>>73428329
That wouldn't kill sluttiness, sluts would just frequent bars and skanky nightclubs more often.
Until men raise the bar and say no, we won't stand for sluts and whores, women will not improve.
>>73419609
It is possible, but I don't see a non neckbeard tier reason to do so.
>>73419609
Yeah, they're called Mudshits.
Yes but ours was an arrange relationship so it's not like I went and found a virgin.
>>73419609
While my boyfriend is not a virgin, I am.
I am not mad that he isn't, but I would prefer if he was.
I wanted to save up for the person I would marry, and so far I am saving up for him.
my gf was a virgin
>>73428526
Just look at the fucking graph. Or look at even more graphs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um3EmS9DKsI
>>73424772
Plus statistics show that marriages that occur after the gf/bf lived together are more likely to end in divorce.
>>73428495
>Until men raise the bar and say no, we won't stand for sluts and whores, women will not improve.
This.
You have to set a high standard for yourself and reach it first. Then you can apply a higher standard to the women, and be sure not to compromise.
>>73419609
Yes it is possible.
>>73428818
How is this relevant? Of course women who have sex before the age of 12 are likely to be white trash STD ridden sluts. Of course women who have their first sex after the age of 20 are likely to be extremely ugly necbeardy types/Christcuck fundamentalists.
>>73429213
The problem is, anon, that it's a hard, long and lonely road. I'm 24 and I'm very afraid I won't be able to find a good wife. In any case, I find myself attracted to younger girls, girls my age have been around the block a time or two.
And before someone calls me a shitlord, I'm a decent looking guy, I have 2 MAs and I have my shit somewhat together. I have never in my life approached a woman with the intention of having casual sex with her.
>>73429611
For your children, everything is better than a mother who expulses you and wants to raise them alone or with her new boyfriend. Civilization can only survive when children grow up in healthy families, whether they are ugly christcucks or not.
>>73429631
Unless you are religious and attend church or whatever foundation you go to regularly I am afraid to break the bad news and tell you that your chances of finding a virgin girl are virtually zero outside any religious institute.
>>73429213
if you're a 4chan user you don't deserve better than a slut, or permanent virginity
that's the hard truth.
I'm literally diagnosed autistic, and I realize that at best, I deserve a similarly defective woman
Hardcore Christcuck families tend to raise their children to be submissive losers/abusive assholes.
I'd take a single mother over this without hesitation.
>>73430855
this was for >>73430535
>>73428697
how did you do this? Indian?
>>73430806
Why not just kill yourself it is a lot easier than you think and you'd probably make your family less stressed out.
>>73430716
Oh I'm not aiming for a virgin. I hope to find one that hasn't indulged in casual sex, I have no problems with a girl who's had sex in long term relationships.
>>73429611
Czechbro, your women are trash. Czechstreets, Czech casting, Czech fake agent, you name it, your girls have done it. And let's not even mention what they do when they come to my country in the summer, they get fucked in every way possible and are easy as all hell.
>>73431060
I'm not THAT autistic, I was good enough to get a high paying engineering job and I'm moving out and have no problems living independently.
>>73422673
There's a reason all cultures encouraged sexual monogamy until ours. 75% stability rate in modern society, where women are basically payed to just divorce their husbands, is insane.
You could have a loving wife who was dedicated to you, almost certainly did not cheat, and was willing to stay married to you until death.
>>73430716
>>73430806
Ok, I'll better cry myself to sleep now. Tomorrow will be a new day full of endless possibilities ...
Do you think them being the first is the reason for longevity and not more religious/conservative attitudes of those who are likely to have married their first partner?
>>73430855
Ok then, bro. Have a great life...
>>73431155
And? Sex is a casual thing for me. Christcucks made it into a shameful taboo.
Also, hate to break it to you but all of those vids are fake and pre-arranged.
>>73431653
Also...
>unironically using the word deflowered
You have to be some type of an autist/neckbeard.
>>73431626
What is really killing things is the comparison. It don't have to be "one is better than the other". Different is enough. When you have only had 2 sex partners in your life you can still look at the differences of this 2 and extrapolate a whole world of unexplored sexual possibilities.
>>73419609
I did. Great happy marriage with kids now. Total trust. No exes to worry about
>>73431849
Well good, because unless you're cumming inside a fertile woman, there's no difference between spraying it on a woman's face or on a tissue, you're wasting your sperm just like that weeb who faps to 2D.
Is that video of a teacher taking a creampie and her students finding it on the internet pre arranged? I know many are pre arranged, the point is the producers certainly aren't running out of willing amateurs any time soon.
>>73431626
desu, it's probably a mixture of either.
Sex is/was supposed to be something special, and that it can only be if you don't change partners every week or even year.
While I do think that it can still be special to people that only have sexual contacts in longterm relationships, I believe that it loses some of it's "magic" with every new partner.
The thing is, if you stay with your first partner, you will probably work on that relationship a lot and value it.
People with more than, let's say 5 even though I personally find that quite high already, sexual partners, tend to always be looking for other partners as they get bored quickly and buy into the "if it doesn't work after talking about it once, it's not meant to be"-meme
>>73431469
It's alright bro. Use those sweet social skills you have picked up on 4chan to sneak your way into to some fundamental religion (I suggest Islam, more than one wife in some circles!). Keep up that hard praying and you may be allowed to marry one of those closeted virginal religious girls. Plus another benefit with this strategy is any children you have will not suffer your fate and will mix in well when they are outnumbered by all the refugees you are letting in.
>>73432137
>wasting your sperm
You can't run out of sperm.
>>73432465
A guy who's fucked 2 women but has 2 kids is more alpha than a guy who's fucked 100 and dies alone. That's my point, you're nothing more than a glorified wanker.
>>73432611
neither fucking 100 women nor having kids is an accomplishment and it doesn't make you alpha.
Jeb Bush has 3 for reference.
>>73432448
Totally doing that. Thank (You).
>>73432611
>2016
>Having kids
kek
>>73432611
>>73432839
All that matters is genetic success. Be a sperm donor. Farther 800 kids. Be genetically alpha.
>>73433608
I'm capable of impregnating fatties and butterfaces myself, thank you very much. I want to have kids with a beautiful woman
>>73433964
>beautiful woman
>on 4chan
Good luck with that
>>73434312
You suppose my chances would be better if I frequented Reddit?
>>73434714
Well when you put it that way...
