Why do you guys think it is okay to have sex before marriage?
I don't.
t. christian
>>73419660
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>>73419501
>>73419660
I actually started the same thread here >>73419609
problem is that people blame women, while women simpyl follow the standards put there by men (i.e. you have to be promisculoius to be manly)
t. christian
I don't
t. Non-Christian
>>73419501
I don't.
Because consensual adults can do whatever they damn fucking please.
You religious zealots have just realized that nobody wants you and you hide behind religious morality to explain your lack of pussy, or you are a hypocrite with massive double standards.
Marrying without fucking could be a very expensive mistake.
I don't.
t. Atheist
>>73420480
religious zealotry is what prevented pic rel for a long time, enjoy promisculity as much as you can but dont pussy out when you need to reap the consequences of a failed family
>>73420480
this guy is right i mean come on is 2016
people doing things has literally no socio-political implications u fuckin bigots
>>73420480
What is even the point of marriage when you fuck around with other people?
>>73419501
sex=marriage
According the the law of God thus the universal natural law, "marriage" according to man is going to a church or court to sign papers thus getting also married to the state which will then rape you of your kids and money. This is why women are broken as fuck they have had multiple husbands breaking their natural order of only being of only having 1 man, oppression,depression, pains, and emotional emotional problems is what follows this whores especially when they start to grow old.
>>73419501
Because I'm not a cucked religious faggot who gets his worldview from a 2,000 year old Jewish fantasy novel written by Arabs.
>>73419501
You can minimize the damaging aspects of premarital sex if you,
1. In a long term stable relationship.
2. Relationship not founded on sex.
3.You only have sex with one another.
4. Protection, birth control, the usual stuff.
No damage is better than very little but you old mantra "everything in moderation"
>>73421412
What is really killing things is the comparison. It don't have to be "one is better than the other". Different is enough. When you have only had 2 sex partners in your life you can still look at the differences of this 2 and extrapolate a whole world of unexplored sexual possibilities.
Just look at this graph and look at the jump from 0 to 1 premarital partners. >>73419609
>>73420776
This pic is not representative at all.
Let me give you some facts, Ivan.
Immigration from the third world is going DOWN in Norway. There is almost a complete stop in accepting refugees, most who made it will be deported, and the number of asylum seekers from the Muslim world and Africa have declined massively for several years thanks to our policies. The birth rate of immigrants is also going down, and is almost as low as the Norwegian birth rate. This is also the case for Denmark.
Crime is going down for the 15th year in a row, also among immigrants and in Eastern Oslo.
Also, divorce rates are going down fast because people now can make more informed choices about who they marry due to increased social mobility and less religious morals.
Now, I don't like Islam and I don't want it to get a hold of us, but the truth is simply that Norway doesn't have anything to fear.
Public school RUINED young , virgin marriage forever.
you're supposed to be able to marry and be a responsible adult at 16-18 but the school system delays development to keep you as an impressionable child as long as possible.
there wasn't even such a thing as a "Teenager" 100 years ago. The whole concept is a Jewish lie.
>>73422893
>The birth rate of immigrants is also going down, and is almost as low as the Norwegian birth rate.
I wish I can believe and that what you just stated will stay that way, but it seems its just a swing in trends
Not to mention the very concept of "dating" isn't even consistent with the bible or for that matter pretty much any religion on earth. They ALL prefer arranged marriage and for a reason.
>>73423384
the birthrates for Muslims in the west actually ARE going down as they adopt the same consumerist culture as whites. They're only exploding for the first generation or two
>>73423378
>marrying at 16-18
>good idea
WEW LAD
>>73419501
it's highly degenerate.
>>73423800
well it WAS a good idea, because back then at 16-18 you'd be working a real job and be ready for it, since the education system wasn't fully Jewed yet. You had to care about your survival, thus no time to be a boy until you're 25 like people seem to believe today
>>73421412
>>73419501
My gf doesnt believe marriage is a good thing, shes christian but thinks that marriage is just a show that you put on for friends and family.
I took her virginity 4 months into the relationship and have myself had sex with 2 gf's before her. I'm the only one she's had sex with despite a few boyfriends before me.
There is a difference between having sex and making love to someone in a meaningful longlasting relationship.
>>73424263
the idea is that the families on both sides are united into one family.
I agree that the state shouldn't be a major part in it, and modern marriage is legalistic bullshit (not to mention no fault divorce). But the real point is that the FAMILIES of both partners get to know each other and approve of it.
The biggest lie of the modern era, since the late 1800's, is that marriage is romance and about love between two individuals and not two families
>>73419501
Me either
These heathens these days make me pretty sick tbqh
>>73420998
this
>>73423384
Wealth, careers, consumption, education, etc drives birth rates down. Basically, every generation has been increasingly involved with Western culture, and birth rates decline accordingly.
Now, since Norwegian community planners are not completely retarded (like they are in Sweden), they have come up with several solutions to address the obvious challenges that non-Westerns represent.
With the exception of some areas of Eastern Oslo, asylum seekers and refugees have been spread thin all across the country to avoid the kind of clogging and parallell communities that Sweden has experienced. Those who live in Oslo usually have jobs, except those of the first generation (who are literally dying). Living in Oslo is fucking expensive, and basic welfare shit usually won't cover the cost of living at all. Also, welfare money is harder to get by than in Sweden.
Also, the number of immigrants in Oslo will decline rapidly once the gentrification of Oslo East begins. The city council basically made a plan to price immigrants out of the city.
>>73424607
well her family is a pain, her mother died when she was young (6maybe) and her dad remarried, hes making her pay a rent starting this august if she doesnt move out of the house and her mother in law is litterally not talking to her, not even to say hi. Shes just ordering her to do chores from time to time. A mutual grown relationship doesnt need the approval of the families but i get what you say about the symbolism of marriage.
A marriage between me and gf would be simply strategic for taxes and such
>>73419501
marriage is a spook
>>73424607
>But the real point is that the FAMILIES of both partners get to know each other and approve of it.
>letting your parents have a say in the matter
Eeew, no, seeing as my mom and dad were stupid enough to marry each other, they are disqualified from any opinion on the matter.
Not liking the spouse choice of a family member is totally legit, but a grown-ass man doesn't need his family's approval.
>>73420924
It says before marriage, not during.
>>73426302
I know.
>>73426557
now realize that every single naked woman you've ever seen in porn or even scantily clad woman in public adds to the "numbers of partners" in your brain.
really it can barely tell the difference between imaginary and real partners (for men).
hell if you've had "Sex education" , know how sex works and even fantasize about other women you've upped that count of other partners in a way that really impacts almost as badly as if you fucked around.
Therefore even if you're a virgin, you're really NOT a virgin.
>>73427096
Well the only statistical evidence we have is based on actual physical encounter. And what it does say is that that changes a lot. And I would not bet on the chance, that all the people who had not had sex before marriage also didn't watch porn. Because everyone has.
>>73419501
Because sex feels good, and you can get a lot of shit out of your system so you can be a better man to your eventual wife. Just don't be a complete degenerate about it and you'll be fine.
>>73419501
>sex before marriage
instead, not before. and it's all right, your problem with it is that it's other people, not you, doing it.
