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What effect has hook up culture had on American society?

I've had sex with 5 different women in the last two weeks thanks to Tinder. None of them were wife material.
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Bitches on tinder lately seem to look for the Man of their life.. Not only hookups anymore..

How bland are you about your intentions OP?
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>>73418473
It's the exactly formula that lead to the fall of Rome. You're nothing more than a symptom. Not a man.
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>>73418473
Exactly that. Took an entire portion of the population (women ranging from 5-8/10s) and turned them into shameless whores. The only good women left are the god-tier ones that you need to become an alpha to get , or the ugly ones. There are more good women than you think, but you have to work more to get them than before.
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>>73418569
>being such an incel that you think woman having sex with multiple men in their lifetimes lead to the fall of an empire
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I don't see the big deal I hook up with chicks at parties all the time and after we just go our separate ways no strings attached, no big deal.
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>>73418803
It's not the act of sex, idiot. It's the reason behind it being acceptable.
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>>73418473
>I've had sex with 5 different women in the last two weeks thanks to Tinder. None of them were wife material.

kinda makes sex a bit less worthwhile doesn't it?

the jew wants this to be the case
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>>73418803
shut the fuck up shlomo and pick up a history book

promiscuity leads to nothing good EVER
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>>73418958
>coming from someone who is statistically borderline obese

Hypocritical glutton, cute
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>>73418803
it does though. we're seeing the slow decline now. when the nuclear family is broken up, children do decidedly worse. everyone does worse.
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>>73419148
proof?
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>>73419148
>thinking nuclear families existed in the prime of the Roman Empire
>being this retarded
>nuclear
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>>73418803
>>being such an incel that you think woman having sex with multiple men in their lifetimes lead to the fall of an empire

it is the case. YOU are a part of the problem as well is bro culture
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>>73418561
R A R E
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>>73418473
Is Tinder really like that in US?

Here it looks like a generic dating service to me.
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>>73418473
>I've had sex with 5 different women in the last two weeks thanks to Tinder. None of them were wife material.

gtfo degenerate
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>>73418561

I usually don't bring it up till they do and just say I'm just trying to meet new people and am open to a relationship but not really looking for one. Most women want sex, they just want to have it with someone who respects them if even that person doesn't want to date them.
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>>73419381
>majority of my country is practically obese
> we have never been fatter
>nation of gluttons
>but bro culture is the problem

Die
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>>73419467
>Netherlands
>Rare
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>>73419472

It is if your looks are at least 2 standard deviations above the mean.
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>>73419381
I'm more bullish on "bro culture."

It's the "empowered womyn" meme that needs to fucking die.
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>>73418473

of course none of them were 'wife material' you fucking idiot - you were on *TINDER*
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>>73419472
you must be ugly senpai
Tinder is basically free pussy
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Watch out for herpes, got a red spot on my dick, just fungal but has made me think "no more random pussy!"
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>>73419190
Google the numbers for chikdren who grow up in single family households.

>inb4 there is no correlation between promiscuous sex and single parent households
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>>73418473
>sex with 5 different women in the last two weeks

teach me the secret to your punani-grabbing skills.
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>>73419858
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>>73419809
Well I mean I never ever saw a girl mention that she wants sex. Or specify anything sex-related at all.

Judging by screenshots on 4chan, it's common in US.
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>>73419928
>implying that the state takes priority over individual freedom and liberty
>implying single parent households matter

>>>>/reddit/
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>>73419954

Step 1: be good looking
Step 2: be attractive
Step 3: don't be unattractive
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>>73419868
Eh, I get matches, I just never write to anyone.
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>>73419723
>majority of my country is practically obese

that is the reason civs fall? obestiy? not loosing there reproductive capacities by loosing nauclear families?

end yourself you destrcuvtive evil degenerate

>>73419835
>>73419835
>I'm more bullish on "bro culture."
>It's the "empowered womyn" meme that needs to fucking die.

one causes the other cant you see? women are followere of men by nature and they still act like followers of a promisculous standard laid by men.
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>>73419797
That's Luxembourg you retarded Algerian
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>>73418473

>>rarely match with girls on tinder
>>match a normal looking girl.
>>we talk for a week, and during that time I throw out on option to meet up, very casual, public place
>>she never responded to it, but kept talking about other things.
>>next week I throw same idea out,
>>has some excuse
>>Last final attempt I mention how we can meet up
>>she is out of town
>>days go by, no talking from her
>> I'm done.

I fucking hate online shit, you just cant get a proper vibe. And if this girl and I could have gotten along in real life, it feels tarnished already because of her dodgy Online behavior, which makes me not give a fuck about her in real life.
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>>73420084
so if I'm a 9/10 I can just not say a word the whole time and smile like an idiot, and they'll rip my clothes off and get to work? that sounds awesome.
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Your intentions should say "I wanna fuck bitches in the anus" and see if you get anyone interested
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>>73418561
R A R E

A

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>>73420264

Same shit happened to me a few times and it went on for months. I hate to admit it but you almost have to use pua shit or else you seem like a cuck to them.
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>>73420141
Yes, obesity you short sighted nigger. Medical costs are running this country hundreds of billions, public infrastructure must be changed to accommodate the fatness. Labor intensive jobs are practically removed, welfare state increases because many of them can't work for themselves. Jobs cannot be done that require strong physical work. Diseases and illnesses caused by weight are passed down from generation to generation. The list goes on.

Kill yourself, idiot.
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>>73420032
Found the efeminent man with a whore for a mother
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the mega sluts who devalue themselves on tinder were hanging out in nightclub meat markets before the advent of the iphone

the internet didn't change anything, it just distilled the act
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>>73420141

Is that from Rashomon?
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>>73420685
Pretty much
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>>73420010
Girls don't want to be known as sluts normally even if they are.
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>>73420597
what on earht are you smoking, the population levels of whites are barely maintened in Europe, nor is the situation any brighter in USA, and you are speaking about obesity?

and what on earth has manual labor have to do with economical decline
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how do I find women attractive?
I mean, I'm sexually attracted to them, but when I see them out at the bar, drinking and shaking their asses to shitty rap music, taking selfies and blathering about stupid shit, putting on this 'cool alpha bitch' persona, I feel disgusted at their vacuity.

I have slept with girls before, but I've never been able to work out an effective system to get me the results I want.
PUA stuff is like 10% traditional self-help positive psychology your dad should have passed onto you, and 90% esoteric marketing woowoo bullshit
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>>73420150
>American education

This obviously Netherlands
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>>73421240
Aquafresh for all I care.
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>>73418473
It's trivialized dating and relationships. Nowadays, dating is swiping left on your phone a couple hundred times, then meeting up with a random stranger at a shitty bar, and then both staring at your phones while you get drunk off of happy hour beers.

Smartphones are the death of social interaction for my generation. Most of the girls on Tinder aren't even looking for a guy, they just want the attention of having guys swipe them.
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>>73421782
You don't use tinder as a dating app, anon
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Anyone who has some tips to hook up with girls? I got the looks (tons of matches on Tinder), but I am socially awkward and not very good with talking to girls. Do I just start a conversation and ask to fuck after the conversation has developed?
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>>73421020
well...
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>>73421971
Nobody can tell you how to interact with other people. You have to learn from experience and expect to fail at first
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>>73421971
Its not so hard if you're willing to fuck ugly fat chicks and deal with the crushing feelings of emptiness in the days afterwards
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>>73421917
that's how people I know use it.

then again around here the guys on tinder outnumber the girls significantly.
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>>73422244
Well okay. But how does it go out when you get a girl? Do you just go to her place, fuck her and leave or go to some place to get to know each other and then fuck?
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>>73421020
Almost every girl i've ever fucked wants to be called a slut.
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>>73419954
1: swipe right on everything! You will be guaranteed to get a girl. She might not be very pretty or young, but hey its sex.

>>73420084
ignore this fagot giving out bad advice.
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>>73422480
It depends on the girl and the situation. There is no formula
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>>73418473

>Wanting a wife that will ruin your life and take all your money

Why don't you just convert to judaism?
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>>73418473
>I've had sex with 5 different women in the last two weeks thanks to Tinder. None of them were wife material.
>probably thinks he's somehow still husband material

apart from that, do you actually believe that you can find a decent wife on tinder?
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>>73420266
Yes. A mate of mine made a fake okc account with a chad picture and had women eagerly responding to him by messaging them "HALLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" and literal gibberish
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>>73422718
Alright. Thank you.
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>>73422480
Lure her into a false sense of security, feign interest in her personal life. Engage in light conversation about trivial normie pop culture- stupid fucking TV serials and gay twee indie pop music. Eventually, suggest that you go someplace more secluded, such as a walk in the park.
Once you are out of earshot of civilization, I typically use fibre wire and wrap it around her throat. Apply pressure until she stops breathing. Otherwise, knock her out with a blunt object to the skull, and begin stabbing her with your pocket knife. I find it's best to have your way with her in the last moments of her life, when the primal fear reflex has kicked in. There's few things in life more exciting, except for stabbing her in the neck, and cumming to the sound of her gurgling on her own blood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHBTVzRreSY
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>>73422940
No tinder has removed the need for a girlfriend. You can go on their and get laid then go back to your life without having to date.

How many women meet the most basic of male standards for marriage anymore?
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>tfw get messages on Tinder
>tfw I never reply and wonder why I can't get laid
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>>73418473
>led to the existence of places like ForeverAlone, Sluthate, etc
>made being a Chad life on easy mode
>made people opt out of the social contract and opt out of society, MGTOW, etc
>invalidated marriage
>elevated narcissism

All in all it hasn't been a great idea.
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>>73422123
she is easily 200lbs

i can tell
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>>73418561
Stealth toothpaste!
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> find woman from mexico
> looks white. People think she is ukrainian/russ/etc.
> easily 8/10, if she had bigger boobs/butt 10/10
> legit no shit good Catholic woman
> cook, clean, motherly,whole 9 yard's
> wife the fuck out of her asap
> be grateful everyday

Honestly most woman are disgusting now. I feel sorry for the men looking for a good woman still.
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>>73422953
this sounds reasonable for reeling them in for a quick troll over the app's chat feature, but I am skeptical that he could take it any further had he used a picture of himself and met up with them.
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>>73419409
the grapes should be rotten and mostly picked for this image to convey the accurate metaphor
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>>73423475
>posting cuck fiction
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>>73423733
What is the metaphor?
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>>73420666
>efeminent
Found the illiterate ad hominem spewing retard.
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>>73423663
It was purely trolling
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>>73419334

You're right, the SLAVES didn't have nuclear families but the upper and middle classes (you know the ones that actually get shit planned, funded, and organized) typically did have nuclear and extended families.
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>>73418473
It hasn't had any effect. Stop reading internet blurbs, they don't apply to the real world retard
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>>73423836
fox and the grapes - aesop's fable

The fox can't reach the grapes, so he decides that the grapes were probably not that good and worth pursuing anyway.
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>>73423836
That we're salty for not getting mad sex all the time off of tinder.
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>>73422953

Those threads on r9k are hilarious.
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>>73423475
>Fucking Chads reeee
>ignore the fact I'm too lazy to improve my social skills
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>>73423970
>cultural criticism isn't a response to the real world
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>>73424161
bitches are constantly being bombarded with male attention
you'd have to have superhuman social skills just to get her to put down the phone for 5 minutes
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I've had sex with almost 100 different women. I even got a hand job for a couple beers one time. The internet is amazing when you are in your prime.

Just remember to wrap it and don't date any of them. Most of the girls you will find on the net are slutty as fuck and will cheat on you at the drop of a hat. Fuck that is women in general I guess.
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>>73420264

The flakiness and attention whoring drove me away from it online dating.

Its driving me away from actively dating in general at least for the time being.
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>>73419381
There is actually plenty of evidence that associate this sort of sexual behavior is indicative of collapsing society
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>>73424317
Not at all. It requires almost minimal effort, because most men have your losing mentality
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>>73418803
>being that fucking stupid in not keeping women in check.
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>>73421782
... You swipe right as a yes, left as a no. You know that right?
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>>73423229
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>>73424161
Like it or not this is the future now. More and more men are becoming this way.

Face it, everything is fucked. 'muh social skills' isn't a good enough solution.
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>>73418569
Rome had Tinder
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>>73418473
Doing your part to destroy western society i see?

You just can make up your own morals and rules and do what ever feels good at the moment.

What a pathetic and shallow life you lead.
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>>73420705

yes. great film
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>>73424847
You're one angry little faggot, aren't you? I guess this is what happens to those ugly kids who never got female attention.
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>>73420032
they will matter if the divorce rate continues to increase as it is doing now.
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>>73418473
>Tinder
>Hatch Labs
>IAC
>Chairman Barry Diller
>Diller was born into a Jewish household in San Francisco, California, and is the son of Reva (Addison) and Michael Diller.
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I used Tinder for a while. Met up with a few girls, had a few good experiences, and one really bad one.

But seriously, the girls on there are like zombies. I've never seen anything like it.
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girls just don't seem to get edginess

it's like, when I make fun of the holocaust, trannies, rape, or slavery around them, they get all offended and shit
They tend to not be interested in guns, death metal, ultraviolent 80s horror movies/ anime, or ironic nazi memes
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>>73421782
i agree with this. smart phones are the worst
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>>73425295
>ironic nazi memes
I forgot to tell you earlier, we dropped the "ironic" part and we're actually serious Nazis now.
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>>73419467
>>73420374
>>73423536
Uncommon but not rare

>>73419797
>>73421240
I bet you're probably trolling, Mehmet, but yes the flag is actually Luxembourg and not the Netherlands, despite having very similar flags. Just hover your mouse over >>73418561 flag and you shall see it is Luxembourg.

t. flag connoisseur
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>>73418473

Is that Kanye's wife?
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>>73424317
This. Last girl I was on a date with could barely put her fucking phone down. She was well below me in looks, status, and wealth, too. Her friend told me this was probably the first date she had ever been on. I guess so. 5'1" wanna-be Stacy, but doesn't have the body-type for it. Her Facebook says "music is my life". That bitch didn't even know that Marilyn Monroe was dead. Never answer my calls after the date. She's 28, hope she's wearing a seat belt when she hits the wall.

Guess I'm even worse though, since I don't know how to FIND women. This was over a year ago, and I haven't even had a date since.
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>tfw i found a big titted 18 yr old virgin on tinder and fucked her

Feels good
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>>73418473

>What effect has hook up culture had on American society?

From an outsider looking in, not a very good one.

By "outsider", I mean I'm literally in a bubble. I had one girlfriend in my life, didn't even fuck her, never really had a chance to develop socially or have a "normal" life because both of my parents got cancer and I had to drop everything and care for them right out of high school, then when they got back up on their feet, I moved out, then my dad's cancer came back and he died, so I had to come back to help my mom run the house while she worked, then my sister and her two kids moved in and I'm having to help take care of them, too. I'm literally in a bubble and never have time to develop a social life. So, as a virgin who has had minimal female contact and no chance to ever have it, I can say that this "hook-up" which developed behind my back and out of my sight has been disastrous, at least around here.

I'll sometimes meet up with my high school friends and they're absolutely miserable. None of them have girlfriends and they still play Magic the Gathering and video games. I always ask why they don't put that shit down and try to find someone and they all say "What's the point? If you're not good looking, you're fucked"

Granted, they're not matinee idols, but they're not hideous ghouls, they just look like normal dudes. When I press them by what they mean by this, they all told me that these days, you just your phone and the only thing there is your picture and you're judged by that. Conventional dating is more or less dead and they're fucked by what people our age are using for dating and hook-ups: The internet. These smart, funny guys would rather not even try to compete and just stick with their nerd hobbies.

It's fucking depressing to hear that from them and almost makes me grateful I've never had the chance to find out how miserable the world of sex and dating is. And we're all in our late 20s, so the clock's ticking.
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>>73425082
>your a loser haha
>it's okay to be a degenerate
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>>73426093
What weight class? Heavyweight or super-heavyweight?
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>>73418473

On the one hand side:

>no death in combat
>no war
>gym membership costs as low as 10 bucks/month
>women one click away
>if fit and hip can bang up to 7 different women/week
>but never going to find a qt virgin to settle down with who wants kids at age 20

As opposed to

>born to fight
>daily struggle to stay alive
>the best fighters are rewarded with insane pussy
>can rape and pillage your way through civilized pussy
>probably have 20 bastards
>possibly meet some qt waifu who started out as a war slave trophy
>die at age 35
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>>73418976
... is this a shoop?

Or does he actually attempt to eat all of that?
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>>73418473
And that's the way it goes.
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There are just as many good women as there are good parents.

If you ever think about it, television, computers and now smartphones are capturing parents' minds (and especially lazy men's).

All these kids that get no attention are desperately seeking it from other people around them. The whole hook-up culture is a very logical result of the failed parenting simply because sex is the single best way of getting another person's attention.

As some in this thread put, the lack of the nuclear family is what's causing this. I don't think that's entirely true. I think what we lack, and what the nuclear family traditionally provides, is love, safety and social guidelines/ morals. You can get these things from elsewhere. The bottom line is people today don't grow up.

I think the best thing you can do is to work with yourself on how you become a man. Don't forget women are likely to 'follow the lead'. If you have a plan with your life and a strong mind/ will to achieve your goals they'll naturally reflect that.

These reflections comes from somebody who just lost his first girlfriend by being a complete faggot. I completely forgot how to be myself which is the most important thing a man can do in life.
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>>73426176
>And we're all in our late 20s, so the clock's ticking.

No, it's not fucking ticking. Not for men. You've been listening to too many women, dude. Men are treated like shit by society until at least mid-30s. Wait until all the women your age start hitting the wall. Attain wealth and status, and you can get with any woman 20 and older.
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>>73426498

The hook-up culture and general lack of respect between people might lead to widespread loneliness and depression.

You won't have that with stable families.
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>>73426614

>These reflections comes from somebody who just lost his first girlfriend by being a complete faggot. I completely forgot how to be myself which is the most important thing a man can do in life.

sounds like me 5 years ago.
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>>73427028

The worst thing is she is wife-material.

But she's 6 months older than me which still counts in my age (21) so I've never had the mental strength to challenge her and develop the relationship.

If only I knew what I know now 6 months ago.
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>>73418473

the good women dont stay on tinder long, that skews numbers.
>a distant girl friend of me was on tinder looking for relationships.
>9/10
>3 coffee dates
>relationship
>off the market for 1.5 years and going after being on Tinder for 1.5 weeks.

its basically the same as with the job market. the unwanted stay there seemingly forever, while the good ones stay only a short time, if ever.
that, however, has nothing to do with technology or culture. it's logic / game theory.
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>>73426176
I started reading your post and was going to direct you to /r9k/ but holy shit that is a sad story anon.
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>>73418473
>Tinder
>None of them were wife material

Finding a good one is luck, anon. Actually making a connection is hard work and skill. You have to become good husband material if you want the right kind of woman and be able to project that identity when the time comes.

Sure as hell won't pull that off with fuck buddy apps and clubbing.
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>>73418473
i haven't hard sex with any woman in the last 26 years thanks to tinder.
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>>73426956

Here in the South, that's not the mindset of either men or women. We typically marry young and you're considered weird if you don't.

Small town mentality, friend. I don't believe it and agree with you, but I'm in the minority.
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>>73427705
Thanks, anon. I didn't think it was the mindset, either, until I found out it was. 31 from Mississippi here. Live in a town of 4,000.
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>>73427594

>You have to become good husband material if you want the right kind of woman

So much this.

Be a man and do the things that makes you happy and confident. Then the right girls will start showing up.
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>>73418473
In a couple years when you're looking for a wife to bear your children, you will wonder why you can't find out... and then you'll remember how you contributing to turning all women around you into worthless trash.

In other words, you will eat what you've cooked.
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yeah but what if I want to make up for high school and college and just fuck sluts while I'm still in my 20s
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>>73418803
It makes way for harems. Which leaves ~70% of men in the society less likely to actually have a stake in it and more likely to give zero fucks about actually maintaining said society. So yes, it's more or less exactly how empires collapse. Or at least a very significant contributing factor. There's also the fact that stupid people breed more reversing Darwinian social evolution once an empire gets to a certain point of stability. The fact that we glorify youth (stupidity) doesn't help that either and also plays right into the vapid hookup culture. Throw in the relaxed immigration policies of the west importing literally millions of people who can't even read and you're basically looking at the last century of western civilization as we know it.
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>>73418473
all the good ones are taken after high school
get them young
japs had the right idea, women pasted 25 are scum, but they were off a couple years
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>>73427440

>The worst thing is she is wife-material.

Same here, only she became infected with feminism when she attended grad school.

She'll probably revert once shes out and cant find a job.

I know this because I impressed my political beliefs onto her during our 4 year relationship, and i know how impressionable she is on politics and policy. Basically she has no real political "beliefs" despite having relatively high morals; she just want "get along" and never challenge peoples beliefs or validate your own.
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I'm a 6'3, /fit/ male with a handsome face. As a university student I have seen my fair share of pick up culture and I have had women with short time interest in me aswell. But to be honest, I have always despised it somehow. I consider it to be very shallow. I have a girlfriend and I love her very much. And honestly, I think I would do much better with a nice girl than banging damaged sluts every week. It sounds arrogant but I don't think the grapes meme applies to me. I think it has a very bad impact on society but at the same time I think that adults should be able to do what they want with their own bodies, even if it is degenerate. However, I do not want to associate myself with those kind of people.
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Can some older /pol/tard say if the 'brotherhood' between men was stronger in the past?

I heard an interesting discussion about affairs earlier and there was a guy who basically said that a good brother would never have sex with somebody else's woman. The same same goes for 'sisters'.

When I think of a 'man' I think of someone who would be a brother and not have sex with somebody who is in a relationship because he would know that it could eventually backfire on him. This general respect (brotherhood) would also contribute to more stable relationships.

Am I completely off or is there some kind of truth to it regarding the way society is developing?
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>>73427999


The mayor of Tupelo, the city next door, is getting married to the former Miss Mississippi this weekend. There are almost 20 years difference between them, and he's a tub of fat, but he's rich and has status.
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>>73418958
Its like you dont want to have sex. Faggot
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>>73429034
Not this weekend, apparently I can't read.
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>>73429034
Women are retarded cunts.
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>>73429072
Sex is probably the single most overrated thing in the universe.

Considering the volume of sheer mental misery (aka closely interacting with a female on a regular basis) one has to put up with in order to get it, it's an equivalent of climbing Mount Everest and getting a cookie as a prize.
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>>73429436
You must be retarded its easy enough to just go to the bar chat a bitch up take her home and fuck
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>>73428737
heyyy i know that feel

cool band
saw them live in cleveland once
runes and men is their best song

>>73428934
Not really an older /pol/tard, but I'm pretty sure that was the case.
There are just fewer and fewer outlets for the sense of camraderie and 'trials by ordeal' that go into making a well-adjusted adult man. I can see that it's less of a problem for previous generations- most of my ancestors were either drafted into the military or served as civil servants (police/firefighters). Luckily my family was oldschool enough to put me through things like boy scouts, marching band, and summer camp-
Small things like wearing uniforms, initiation rituals, bantering with your mates- They do make a difference.
Sadly, it seems like a lot of my peers simply don't 'get it'. Even if I've had some 'man' experiences, the society around me devalues them.
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>>73429436
I think to most guys, getting laid has become a status thing and one of the few things one can do to prove your mascunlinity.

A hundred years ago, that would have been considered shameful behaviour.
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>>73422436
Those mingers can be fun fucks though if you're halfway-decent looking and don't want to put in the effort to bang chicks with equal sexual market value to you.

Like shooting fish in a barren. It's still fun as hell, just don't go bragging about it.
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>>73429436

If you don't put of with shit then you don't put up with shit.

Tell them to shut the fuck up and fuck them. That's what you want and that's what they want.

Things are falling apart because modern men are not men. We as men can fix all of this.
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>>73429691

I was also a boy scout and did a lot of other stuff. My dad was a captain and his dad before him was also in the military.

My dad was never my friend but a (loving) authority. I feel the same as you. The group mentality is gone.
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>>73423229
Not bad, man. I've never tried that.
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>>73426176
>late 20's, so the clock's ticking

Naw, not really for guys but very much so for women. Men are programmed to procreate as long as possible, women are not.
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>>73426176
>I had one girlfriend in my life, didn't even fuck her
Same for me, lad.

I have extreme trust issues and am uneasy with getting with women because right off the bat I assume they're all whores, and changing this mindset with a particular woman can be slow for me, call it a "guilty until proven innocent thing." I won't settle and get cheated on/cucked either, so I avoid women in general. None of them want a traditional life either, at least the one's I've talked too. Too much desire to live a "yolo" life, open relationships, and straight up polygamy is ruining things. Back then average looking dudes would at least be able to get a wife as long as he had a decent job but now multiple women flock to an increasingly small pool of men, and leave the rest of us out of reach. You have to be rich and good looking to get access. Being loyal, hardworking, and wanting to raise children are no longer desirable aspects women look for in men. Fuck, even a lot of ugly chicks have impossibly high standards. I don't ask for a trophy wife, I'll settle for an average looking girl with traditional values, not a whore (preferably virgin like me) and be willing to cook and clean. But such women are almost impossible to find in the western world.
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>>73423229
Music ruined it, Guy
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ficki ficki
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>>73428934
I don't know about others, but I follow this thing you call "brotherhood." Once I learn that a woman is committed, I back off all advances, I refuse to ruin relationships, even if it's the woman that comes up to me and wants to cheat. It takes a lot of wilpower to say "no" though.
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>>73430150

I don't want to judge you but from what you're expressing it sounds like you don't trust yourself.

In my experience women look for confidence, so basically an alpha, right? Not really. Being confident just means you love what you're doing and don't give a shit what other people might think. You can only reach that mental level if you work with yourself.

Today we all sit behind our computers and smartphones and never really do anything which is what we really need.
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>>73423733
wait, shouldn't the grapes in this case just be lying on the ground with a sign saying 'free grapes, may contain herpes"? Then the fox is like "nah fuck that"?
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>>73424492
got any links? this sounds interesting.
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>>73430626

Ideally I'm a brother. But I've never been in that position so I can't tell if I'd be able to restrain.
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>>73422628
>She might not be very pretty or young, but hey its sex.

I don't think I could do that. I've just installed Tinder and I can't be bothered to sit there swiping. I have some matches but I don't know what I'm supposed to do now.

I usually just fuck 10/10 hookers from Eastern Europe which are plentiful here.

I'd rather fuck a hooker than a fatty.
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>>73429661
But then you have to actually talk to a woman and pretend what she's saying isn't the most mind-numbing garbage ever
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>>73418473
I've got news for you, anon

You aren't Dad material.
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>>73430691
You're right, I have my own set of self trust issues I haven't quite been able to deal with. Must be anxiety and self esteem but I always doubt myself and feel I'm not good enough.

I know they look for confidence, but for me, I am somewhere between lacking confidence and simply not caring about what kinds of vibes I send off to women. You have a point though, I do have to iron out these issues with my personality.
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>>73431057
Where do you go for your hookers? And how much... I have a thing for Eastern euro chicks.
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>>73431204
This

>Where are all the good women? All they ever want to do is fuck
>I'm a great man. All I ever want to do is fuck

OP is a child in an adult's body
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>>73431458
London is the main place.

Google AdmiralEscorts london.

Typical is 150 an hour. It's worth it, they look better than their pictures which are slightly altered in the face to protect their identities from families and friends.
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>>73418473
Does tinder have to be linked to your facebook?
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>>73431949
>£150/hr.
You can just jerk off for free
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>>73418473

>Tinder
>Wife material

wew lad
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>>73432132
>You can just jerk off for free

Wow like I didn't know that. It's not the same as having a beautiful 20 year old with you though.

I've had things done which no previous gf would ever do such as getting my ass licked, having a full body massage by a hooker who was also a part time sports therapist and doing anal.
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>>73420084
>Step 1: be good looking

Welp looks like Tinder is not for me
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>>73429034
Why does your county have a town called Egypt?
>Captcha Sphinx
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>>73432329
> doing anal
did you use an enema first?
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>>73432329
>getting my ass licked
You like a little tongue slip eh cup of tea??
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>>73430150
I agree. Woman standards are too high and Mens standards are at all time low leading to anyone getting cucked or cheated on at any time.
I've had buddies get cucked/cheated on and it's hard not for me to not be like "Yeah I don't ever want that shit to happen to me soooo".
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>>73426176
>>73426956

Nah man. Learn about sexual market value. Men's worth is largely determined by our productivity and general attractiveness - the funny, smart shit you mentioned - and both (if you're working at it) get better with time. Like other anon said, women's market value is pretty much their reproductive and subsequent mothering capabilities. One severely worsens with age, the other severely worsens with shit personality and life choices. End of the day, women are literally fucking themselves out of a happy life.

Bottom line to you: work hard, get money, and don't put women on a pedestal. They should be like any other life facet you hope to get for yourself in the future; financial security (savings, investments), general peace of mind, bitch. Get these things in that order and never, EVER risk the first two for the third.
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>>73432738
Why wouldn't we?
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>>73433068
>sexual market value
Sad how human relationships have to be reduced to a goony video game.
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>>73430691

>tfw cant be confident due to small dick

Honestly like whats the point if you can't change that? I was attractive, I was fit and I did have a social life until I realized my current dick situation isn't worth me doing anything anymore.

Sitting behind my computer and on my smartphone is the only thing keeping me sane.
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>>73418473
>I've had sex with 5 different women in the last two weeks

You don't sound like husband material.

Incidentally, what's the opposite of "deeper?"
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>getting a haricut
>hardresser asks me why I'm 25 and still single
>she tells me to use tinder
>tfw 6'3" and attractive but no social life and you need a facebook to use it

Is OKcupid the only option?
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>>73433218
The internet has united all manner of detached social retards. PUAs are just one variety.
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>>73433218

Except they aren't. Sexual market value has been a thing since the dawn of fucking time when men put women and children ahead of themselves to protect their bloodline/future of the tribe. Ever hear of a social contract? Think of it like symbiosis. Men gets wealth and material goods through his work ethic and talent. Women gets to share in these things by offering her sex/comfort and family.

That's literally an exchange of services which have value like EVERY relationship.

You have friends, anon? Are they funny, smart, reliable, give you nice shit, what? If they offer you nothing, you don't hang with them. If they offer you intelligent conversation or some other diversion which you in turn offer back to them, then you've got a functioning friendship. Anything else is stupid masochism.

Everything is an exchange, and in said exchange there must be value. At least if you're smart. Are you smart, anon?
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>>73424756
And lucky for Nero, lots of it
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>>73419976
>le angry wolf meme :^)
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>>73433068
>Men's worth is largely determined by our productivity and general attractiveness

I disagree with this. Status and wealth are much more determinant.

The rest of your post is good stuff.
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>>73433351
I had some success with okc three or four years ago, but it got increasingly SJWcentric. They also gave the site an awkward facelift (probably to make it usable on smartphones) and it annoys me to use it now
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>>73433457
I didn't say you were wrong. I just think that the need for this kind of analysis speaks to the loss of social intuition in our atomized modern society.
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>>73431136
Then dictate the convo you pussy. Or talk to a woman who is interesting.
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>>73418473
My fuck, I'm glad I'm a somewhat old fag who missed the bus on hookup apps.
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>>73428934

This is the product of the dissolution of virtue and honor in favor of hedonism and moral relativism. (like most of the social problems discussed on /pol/)

I've noticed it, there are guys out there that don't have a problem bedding another mans wife or girlfriend. I personally have never done it and have even refused a beautiful girl i met in abar when she informed me "her boyfriend was out of town".

The real question is if she makes the advances do you tell your bro ? It could ruin the relationship and cause him suffering but save him heartbreak or illegitimate child later.
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>>73423385
>How many women meet the most basic of male standards for marriage anymore?

Are we counting Amish country?

4 or 5.
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>>73434930
Idk, I think the ideal of cucking a male liberal sounds appealing
Like, I'd bang his girlfriend, and upon reaching orgasm, hold her down and grunt 'DONALD TRUMP 2016' into her ear
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>>73425128
>every
>fucking
>time
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>>73427590
this

fuck this gay earth
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>>73434930
Of course you tell dude. You even show him the pictures.

Better to find out you are a cuck from your buddy than from when "your" first son is born and the doctor says, "congratulations it's a niglet."
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>>73435419

He was a construction worker living and working on the road just like me. He was probably in a bar where he was working looking for a hook-up as well. These arrangements never work out and Ive seen many of them in my career, but I still couldn't do it knowingly.

Id had the same thing happen to me while I was away a year before.

(Thus I realized you cant have relationships when you're on the road unless you have a wife and keep her barefoot and pregnant)
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>>73426176
>holy fuck are you me???

I'm older then you, but a very similar story. My dad fighting and dying of cancer fucked my life up hard. One gf, didn't fuck her. One day I thought you were supposed to find and love the right girl and marry and build a family. Then one day I wake up and you swipe a screen and try to fuck a slut.

I don't belong in this world.
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Nothing good, that's for sure. Keep in mind you are also not husband material.

>having sex outside of wedlock
I really don't know how people can even do this. Absolutely vile.
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>>73420141
>a promisculous standard laid by men
This promiscuous nature is the property of the to 10-20% who don’t have to do any work for pussy.

For the rest of us, and by the tone of your language I should assume you are not a part of, have to invest time and money into securing any relationship with a woman.

No one want to waste their life on someone who will just arbitrarily walk away with no punishment for the destruction they cause to the lives that depended upon their presence.

Women behave the way they do, because they can.
If they were punished for their transgression, like in the old days, you would have much less of their destructive behavior.

But now every woman feels entitled to whore it up with royalty.

Fuck em. I've moved on and am much happier for doing so.

I just wish there was a way to eases the pain of dudes who are still "in heat". Maybe sex bot will be the answer.
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>>73436031
>I really don't know how people can even do this.
well they remove eachothers clothes and then the man puts his dingus in the womans meat socket
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>>73425138

What was the bad experience?

I'm in a good relationship, so not likely to end up using Tinder.
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>>73429341

Nope. They are genetically coded to seek provision. There's a study some where (I'll see if I can find the link) that shows women even orgasm harder for wealthy men.

They're not faking it any more then you fake it when you see beautiful tits or a tight pussy. We're coded to seek physical youth and beauty, a proxy for fitness to carry and bear a healthy child. They are coded to seek provision, a man who can care for mother and child until the child is independent.

Problem is this conflicts with the needs of civilization. One man/one woman life time marriage counters this for the sake of civilization. But we have a generation that doesn't care about civilization, only fucking.

We're doomed.
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>>73436171
Often without a condom too, which makes it even more disgusting.
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>>73436169

>If they were punished for their transgression, like in the old days, you would have much less of their destructive behavior.

I don't know if should punish them legally but we certainly shouldn't subsidize their responsible behavior.

You are dead that much of this boils down to (lack of) social pressure and the "lionization" of single mothers particularly and all women in general.
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>>73418614
If you have to work for them then they are not good women.

See, this neo-reactionary bullshit is even more misandrist than feminism. Oh you're so fucking edgy bashing feminists when they make themselves look ridiculous already. I bet you'd make a great admin on /r/ the red pill.

AWALT. Your fat momma was like that, your slut grandma was like that. In fact I'm sure your slut grandma forced your granddad to work coal mines or die in some war while she was safely at home sucking some nigger cock that couldn't even vote.

The least misandrist culture we have is Islam. Islam has it's faults certainly, but it leaves no leverage for women to be the source of those faults y'dig?

So I'd rather deal with jungle bunny Shariah law than one more God damn day of armchair fascism where you're sipping your Starbucks right alongside the genderfluid tranny-boy.
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>>73420264
Just don't give a shit and they'll like you. It's a numbers game.
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>>73436558

>their responsible behavior.

I meant irresponsible
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>>73420264
>talk for a week

Guarantee you she fucked like five different guys in that time span. If she doesn't give you a number and you don't set up a date in the first day you match then you can just give up then.
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It has killed structured society and sown the seed for male genocide.
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>>73436169
>Maybe sex bot will be the answer.

Why the FUCK are the Japanese taking so long here?

I don't even need her to cook and clean. Just be sweet and fuck. And not run away with half my money because Chad or Tyrone flashed his dick online.
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>>73422123
>Wu-Tang is forever

She is so clearly lying about her age.
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>>73436609

>The least misandrist culture we have is Islam

Yes, Islam where raping and abusing boys is totally not common or tolerated at all.
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>>73436840

She FEELS 22! Check your privilege you cis biological age SHITLORD!
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>>73418803
Spot the cuck
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>>73418473
It's worse being gay.
All I want is another masculine /pol/ faggot to be with. They're are as fuck, and I've had no luck.
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>>73437335
*rare
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>>73418473
Rate some of the girls I've found in my area
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>>73418473
>browsing /pol/
>fucking women
pick one
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>>73437602
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>>73418473
>dude I fucked like twenty bitches last week lmao

Why do I get a feeling you post stock images of attractive girls on /b/ and claim they're your gf?
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>>73423229

That's how we do it hueland.
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>>73422123
>22
that bitch is in her mid 30's
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>>73418473
the root of evil is deep inside you, if you and others didn't feel the need to"hookUP" and are convinced that sex before marriage is ultimate degeneracy this thread wouldn't have existed.
but hey, embrace your lust. after all, lust is what's keeping you from killing yourself.
i think crack culture is more interesting than this hookup culture, crack won't give you herpes.
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>>73433221
>Being this insecure
My buddy has a 4 inch dick and gets more pussy than anybody I know. They also come back for more.
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>>73437753
fucking this
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>>73437602
>pregnant
Swiped left, if there's one baseline standard I have for women, it's that she cannot be pregnant or have had kids from a previous relationship.
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>>73418561
>luxembourg

i hate you faggots i wish i could punch you in the face
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>>73437832
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>>73418803
Someone post the graphs showing the correlation between the more dicks a slut has ridden and instability in marriage, depression, and STDs.

When you marry a slut, you set yourself up for failure.
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>>73418473
The breakdown of the nuclear family, although it is not alone in its contributions to this effort. More specifically, it creates an environment in which there is no incentive to achieve and maintain a relationship, see: sugar daddies.
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>>73437709
>I'm just looking for a nice face to sit on
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>>73430714

yeah like would you just pick up some grapes off the ground with a free grapes sign that other people were pooping on the street like in india and poop scooting over to pick from the grapes
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>>73418803
What incentive is there for me, as a man to get married and reproduce?

>A woman is a cum dumpster up until MAGICALLY she wants me to be her provider. Lucky fucking me...
>A woman wasn't a cum dumpster, maybe even had less sexual partners than me, but given society's favoring of women all in all each one of the lays she did get was easier and it always would be so.
>There is nothing stopping her from divorcing me, and women are typically the ones to initiate break-ups and divorces. So even if I'm smart enough not to get married this isn't some very specific power dynamic. She's still going to cuck me in the end.
>But I, as the man... am expected to initiate conversation, be witty, be sharp, dress well, basically peacock for a woman. All the while actually doing the contributing to society via education, hard work, just to try and convince her to push out a few kids.

>And I'm a virgin loser for just mentioning it outloud huur duur duur. Live out your life of mediocrity and disappointment.
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>>73437709
Drinking has me concerned, otherwise this one might work out, I might be tempted to be the face that gets sat on.

>>73437832
>wife with extra permission to find some extra fun
Into the trash it goes

>>73437984
Not enough information, but she's qt, would fugg
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>>73418569
Get alpha, get laid, settle down with a younger waifu in grad school in your mid 30's when you have a good career. It's the only way to roll.
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>>73419190

Go outside, look around.
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>>73418473
Women are a meme you can cum in.
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>>73437335

LONDON
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>>73437602
>inb4 /pol/lack spots his gf
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>>73438182
Literally the only reason to exist is to reproduce.
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>3rd grade teacher

These people are fucking demons.
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>>73437832
Found some more
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>>73437602
>>73437709
>>73437832
>>73437984

Jesus fuck what a bunch of nightmares. Sit on face girl is a qt though, too bad.
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>>73438635
My favorite so far
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>>73438635
>>73437602

im lmaoing at ur life

>>73437984

dem tities, lord give me strength
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>>73418976
I CANT IMAGIN WHAT THIS NIGGAS COLON LOOKS LIKE
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>>73438665
This one's been messaging me and we're going to hang out soon

Only downside is I think she likes bioshock infinite
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>>73438205
You took the b8 m8.

The third one is the worst of them all. See, you noticed the obvious whore of "I have permission to look for fun." Either she's lying, (big possibility) or her boyfriend/husband is beyond hope. I would never encourage polymary less it was specifically multiple women because I'm not going through the trouble of getting with a woman for other men to cum in her. Period. They'll die and have their limbs cut up and thrown in the fucking dumpster before that happens.

But the third one... the third one is clever. She leaves her profile vague so you self insert all your hopes and dreams. She knows she's mildly attractive, so she perks up her boobs, appealing to your lizard brain. You want those boobies, and they're out there enough to grab your eye but not in such a way that it makes it obvious everyone's already seen them.

But they have.
She's a whore.
And she's trying to find a provider male because she knows those tits are going to sag in like four years.
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>>73438635
>Psych major so I see through your bullshit!
Then where's that babies father? Didn't see through HIS bullshit, did you bitch?
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>>73433898
Then how do deadbeat poor stoners end up with girlfriends?

There's much more to it than the summation of status, wealth and productivity - stoners got one of that shit. Or is there a separate category for drug girlfriends?
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I started using Tinder after a friend told me about it and we use to just have a coffee and shoot the shit over it.

Then I started just taking screencaps on all the degenerates.

It really just makes me depressed seeing all the girls on there. Makes me just want to bunker up in my room and play vidya
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>>73438236
>get alpha
>implying he isn't alpha yet

Or: be alpha, go to church, and find a qt waifu with morals and family values, that you didn't meet on some meet-n-fuck website.

This is the problem with idiots today. You're never going to meet a good woman at a bar, or a titty club, or some fuck website. These women have morals as loose as the roasties between their legs. And you're one of the ones that cries: "fuck womenz! dere no good ones anymore."
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>>73437906

>My buddy has a 4 inch dick and gets more pussy than anybody I know. They also come back for more.

The man should be a cult leader...
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>>73438809
>work is my life
HARD TO PORT.
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>>73438901
>zine culture
As someone who has familiarity with this (don't ask me how), I can confirm that it's the worst thing on the list.
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>>73438949
It's honestly the most baffling thing I have ever seen. I legit thought the man was hung like a horse for years until multiple girls that he had fucked were drunk at a party and talking about how small his dick is. The man is a god damn sexual dynamo.
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This one might be a tranny
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>>73438665
>Sit on face girl is a qt though, too bad.

That's my fucking fetish. As long as it's clean and shaved I love eating pussy. I would let sit on face qt sit on my face any time.

>inb4 degenerate filth w/ FalloutVegasCaesarLegion.jpg
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