pol will defend this
>>73397983
Capitalism allocates resources to where there is a demand, which tends to be 'what people want'. Often that intersects with 'what people need', but no it does not always.
Over time it tends to do a better job than other economic systems.
>>73397983
please name one non-capitalist country that's not a total disaster
>>73398486
China
>>73398600
>China
>not capitalist
>communist cucks actually believe this
>>73398486
Antarctica
>>73398650
It is communist though.
>>73398745
China has easily one of the most capitalistic economic systems. It's society is strictly controlled and authoritarian, meaning some produce is banned and some materials are censored, but beyond that it's pretty much the most ruthless sort of capitalism.
>>73398693
Antarctica belongs to capitalist countries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctica#Politics
>>73398745
keep telling yourself that
actually, don't
https://www.quora.com/Is-China-a-communist-country?share=1
>>73398745
Clearly shifted closer towards capitalism over the years. Slowly but surely the communism is vanishing.
Pleb.
>>73398486
>not appreciating Best Korea
>>73398997
>99% of the population is starving, doesn't have running water, electricity, Internet
>labor camps
>no freedom of movement or of speech
it's shit
>>73398600
>hundreds of workers killed in landslide, dead fish floating down the river
just in the last 24 hours
gtfo zhang
>>73398486
Norway
>>73398486
>non-capitalistic
it doesn't exist, but you'd have to be braindead to think that countries don't have other differences. (USA vs Germany vs Japan vs China vs Singapore)
there are so many factors it's ridiculous.
Most countries have varying forms of capitalism, especially when it comes to competing in the global economy.
But to answer your question as well as I can, Saudi Arabia and Quatar are both hardly capitalistic, while not being a total disaster.
>>73397983
Pay taxes.
>>73399227
Norway, despite the highly elevated prices due to many welfare and social benefits programs, is one of the countries where it's globally the easiest to establish and run a company. If it was not so it would've fallen very quickly.
>>73399246
>any Arab country
>not a total disaster
kek
>>73399227
socialism != communism
>>73399153
in FL a month ago, we had millions of dead fish around the entire fucking peninsula.
Just saying, fish are easy to kill, and once those conditions are met, there is going to be a mass dying off in those waters. I think our problem was sugar industry run off depleting the coastal waters of oxygen, but who the fuck knows.
It was definitely weird as shit and unusual tho. Never gone to the beach before to be met with millions of dead fish that were just blitzkrieged.
>>73399246
Literally entire economy based on sitting on a mountain of black gold (oil).
Free gold runs out and their "not a disaster" of a country ends.
>>73397983
Those pictures are usually hilarious. This one does not make sense. Try starting a thread with some substance.
>>73398297
>Capitalism allocates resources to where there is a demand
lol, good luck telling that to Africans with their IMF mandated free-markets sucking all the resources out to the western would.
>>73397983
DUDE SANDWICHES LMAO
>>73397983
Well I agree, capitalism is a degenerate system that puts profit before the good of the nation and people.
>>73399111
The first of your points is complete bullshit. The last serious famine was years ago, though some shortages remain.
The overwhelming majority of the urban population has electricity and running water. Some rural areas do as well.
>>73397983
Dear neighbor, as a former socialist country citizen I can covey this to you.
>YOU ARE FUCKING RETARDED. YOUR COUNTRY WAS SPARED THE RED MENACE. YOU WERE A PROSPEROUS CAPITALIST COUNTRY WITH BOOMING FUCKING INDUSTRY AND MANAGED TO OUTPACE OUR INCOME TEN FUCKING TIMES. YET WHEN YOUR OWN INCOMPETENCE AND GREED MANAGED TO FUCK UP YOUR ECONOMY THE FIRST THING YOU BLAME IS CAPITALISM. THE SAME THING THAT ELEVATED YOUR LIVING STANDARDS FROM AFRICAN LEVEL JUST AFTER WW2. NOW YOU WANK AT SOCIALIST IDEAS, VOTE IN POPULISTS AND FUCKING COMPLAIN ALL DAY LONG
>you know what, GO AHEAD DO IT FGT DEMOLISH YOUR CLASICAL OLD BUILDINGS, THROW COMME BLOCKS ON TOP AND NATIONALIZE FUCKING EVERYTHING
jesus fuck, I am mad
>>73399600
if niggers got their shit together instead of constantly being at war with each other and having extremely corrupt "governments", they would live decently
No I won't. You're trying to phrase capitalism in Marxist terms.
Why is it that Marxists think they're owed something? They're always the most consumerist
>>73399227
All white.
![korea-satellite_2088619i[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/k78jvHs.jpg "korea-satellite_2088619i[1].jpg")
>>73399656
>The last serious famine was years ago
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3553377/North-Korea-cookery-contest-held-Jong-despite-famine-reclusive-state.html
>The overwhelming majority of the urban population has electricity
why don't they use it then?
>>73398486
Grenada prior to the US coup
Honduras prior to the US coup
Chile prior to the US coup
... should i keep going?
>>73399403
Compare Syria and Qatar and tell me they're both the same and both disasters.
Face it, I'm right. Qatar is not a total disaster, and the government runs everything there. Sometimes sitting on a fuckton of natural resources and having a small country is all you need you French fag.
I mean hell, it's not like HUNDREDS of people are being shot up at concerts over there. Just the occasional slave mutilation/death.
>>73398745
That's like saying America is white
We have white people
but we're not white
>>73399246
Literally capitalistic disasters because of their shit culture
>>73397983
relevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnCtzB58SY8
Why does /pol/ get Triggered when someone dares to criticize Capitalism?
>>73399833
the only countries where you can have a successful coup are shitholes
>>73399850
>I mean hell, it's not like HUNDREDS of people are being shot up at concerts over there.
it's not like HUNDREDS of people are being shot up at schools over there :^)
also, Qatar is a Muslim country, it's a shithole by definition
>>73398486
Cuba
>no poverty
>no hunger
>100% illiteracy
>universal healthcare
>developed a working vaccine for cancer
>>73399478
you're actually wrong.
Qatar, unlike Saudi Arabia, has a very diversified economy. It would hurt them, yeah, but not as much as you're assuming. Just look at the huge drop in gas prices and how it's affected both governments.
But yeah, no shit natural resources help a country. That's true of every country, but there are plenty of countries that ARE resource rich and are still complete shit. Just look at Venezuela or any country in Africa.
>>73399991
because /pol/ doesn't like bullshit, and capitalism is perfect so no criticism of it is valid by definition
>dildos with flashing lights
Just curious, how is this even a bad thing. Someone enterprising individual providing people with a product there's obviously a demand for, all the while also providing employees with a paycheck and livelihood, investors with a profit and return on their investment, etc.
Seems like a win-win for everyone.
>>73399600
not our problem, those people are making the decision to let that happen to them.
>>73399712
The French are involved in basically every war in Africa and topple literally every African leader that has so much as a chance of getting their country's shit together to force open their markets.
>lol niggers get your shit together
>Stop hitting yourself, niggers.
>>73400007
>100% illiteracy
so that's why Americans like Cuba so much
>no poverty
>no hunger
do you really believe what you just typed?
>>73400070
It's a problem inherent to the capitalist system.
I'm not saying your average American pleb is the reason Africans are dirt poor.
who are you to decide that dildos with lights are not useful? a commie kgf comitee of trans inclusiveness?
>>73400000
it broke your mold, and i know that makes you upset. but you said non-capitalistic, not Muslim.
but yeah you're right, Muslims countries are shit. it's the reason I'll never visit Qatar, France, Egypt, and London.
also, at least I can shoot back at people here.
desu, any country that isn't the USA is shit.
>>73400079
>The French are involved in basically every war in Africa and topple literally every African leader that has so much as a chance of getting their country's shit together to force open their markets.
yeah, that's why Somalia or Erithrea are going so well right now, unlike Mali where the French military intervened recently and is now a much better place
>>73400000
>the only countries where you can have a successful coup are shitholes
What a garbage argument. Why are capitalists such niggers?
>>73399696
/thread
>>73400204
>France
>Muslim
sure thing buddy, it's one of the most Islamophobic countries in Europe
>>73400141
>0 homelessness
Cuba has literally less poverty than any western country.
>>73400000
damn, since you got trips tho, i'll just let you get back to trolling. Kek has obviously blessed you for it
>>73400141
Yes, obviously. These are UN statistics.
>>73397983
>waah people want to pay for dildos instead of giving their hard earned cash to me
pay denbts
>>73399600
Free markets direct resources to their most valued uses
There is no value in feeding a Starvin' Marvin
>>73399934
preston, pls.
>>73400210
Literacy in Mali - 34%
Literacy in Eritrea- 80%
Tutsis dead with the help of the French- at least 500,000
>>73397983
>need
>demand
Obviously people don't demand what they need. Most people don't even know what they need. Capitalism is for wants.
>>73397983
How can you talk about economy when you can't even pay debts?
>>73400369
There is unless you're a massive psychopath.
>>73400277
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Cuba#Poverty
>Cuba has literally less poverty than any western country.
they are ranked 48th globally, also $30/month would qualify as "extreme poverty" in any developed country
>>73400281
>00000
>trips
do all Americans not know how to count or it's just you?
>>73400436
>literacy is the only metric that matters
Eritrea is worse than North Korea
>>73400013
Qatar, as far as I know, unlike Saudi Arabia actually invested some of their oil money into things which are not luxuries and immediate consumables, so that's why they're doing better. But then, I have only perfunctory knowledge of their economies.
When it comes to Venezuela, Africa and most of Latin America it's mostly because of utter shit tier administration and laws copuled with either bad or worse people. A monkey nation will never build a skyscraper.
>>73399476
>sugar industry runoff
I don't buy it. Sounds like propaganda to get money. There is a nuke plant leaking into the Atlantic near Miami.
>>73397983
Why do you hate people who want dildos with flashing lights you faggot?
>>73399696
someone fucking screencap this
>>73400595
Life expectancy in Eritrea- 62.24
Life expectancy in Mali - 54.60
>>73397983
>implying capitalism doesn't produce so many useful things that it can't waste resources on producing luxuries
>>73400742
>trying to determine which African country is more of a shithole
I didn't say Mali was good, I said it was less shit after France was involved than before
>>73399600
That picture is from the 1992 famine in Somalia under the Marxist-Lenninist regime.
>>73399712
Being fair to niggers, decolonizing countries before splitting them over proper tribal lines was fucking stupid
>Here's a border drawn up arbitrarily when we took your land. It contains 2 tribes who fucking hate you and half of your tribe is on the other side of the border in a different country.
In those circumstances a lot of European countries would be fucked. The only reason the Balkans aren't still tearing fuck out of each other is that we don't want that bullshit on our doorstep.
>>73397983
pay debt Greek !
>>73399991
Because you're a fucking commie who needs to get murdered for idiocy and workshiping niggers and kikes.
>>73400523
It's sad but it's true, if you are just going to give starving people food just because they are human and "have a right to live" you are going to find that they will have a bunch of kids who will end up starving and propagating the problem. Until people can prove themselves a benefit to others and/or become self sustainable there isn't really a reason to bother saving them unless you want to deal with a worse problem down the line again.
I think we would all like for there to be no more people who starve anymore (despite the fact that obesity is a bigger problem in Africa than starvation) but it's just the sad truth of the matter.
>>73397983
The flashing light dildo industry isn't that big. That's a niche market.
>>73397983
>capitalism forces you to buy dildos
>>73398600
People cannibalized their own children in China.
>>73400815
Actually it's from the Sudan.
>>73398486
Third Reich
Capitalism more or less has top down economic planning anyways. See: distribution centers
>>73399696
DANGER DANGER
BASED AS FUCK BULGARIA BLOWS UP THE SPOT
>>73400832
>Here's a border drawn up arbitrarily when we took your land. It contains 2 tribes who fucking hate you and half of your tribe is on the other side of the border in a different country.
sounds a lot like Alsace and Britanny to be honest
>>73400436
Source?
>>73398486
Name one libertarian country.
>>73400815
How come communism is so powerful it can control the weather?
>>73400037
It's degenerate
>>73397983
>Capitalism produces what we need
>need
You mean "want".
Fucking hell reddit, when we invade your corner of the internet we at least put in a minimum of effort.
You're really doing no one any favors with low energy b8 like this.
>>73399246
Are you fucking kidding me? The government with its petro-fueled handout schemes and sinecures dominates the Saudi economy. You also misspelled "Qatar". Disgraceful.
>>73400972
it was going so well that its leader is almost universally regarded as the definition of pure evil, and the name of their political party is used as an insult
>>73399696
Someones butthurt
>>73400920
It wouldn't happen if the workers controlled the means of production for themselves, and thus in times of famine could simply eat rather than having any food exported out of the country. Hence why socialism is necessary.
But of course whenever something bad happens because of capitalism it must always be framed as an unfortunate fact of life. Rather than something that could be prevented with a more humane system.
Capitalism is fine; consumerism is the problem. Capitalism can produce what people need and what people want, but consumerism has corporations manufacturing the want itself.
>>73401012
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SE.ADT.LITR.ZS
>>73399600
Their fault for being stupid.
>>73401144
>literal islamig gommunisd on /pol/
>>73401144
socialism isn't incompatible with capitalism
in fact, except the USA and African shitholes, all capitalist countries are socialist
>>73401040
Somalia.
>>73401144
>Africans
>working
>ever
>>73397983
>greece on the economy
PAY DENBTS
A
Y
D
E
N
B
T
S
greeks are nigger-tier lazy.
>>73401239
social democracy isn't socialism.
>>73398600
>China before capitalism
Literally starving
>China no
Pic related.
>>73399696
Gayreek rekt.
>Everyone needs to be equal in misery, instead of unequal in prosperity
Name one, independent adult in America who can't buy some of those "dildos and flashing lights." I haven't fucking met one; not even the hobos. Everyone in this country has enough excess resources for SOME sort of vice.
>>73401239
>Socialism isn't incompatible with capitalism.
>The worker control of the means of production isn't incompatible with a privatized economy.
Protip: Bernie Sanders isn't a real socialist.
>>73401269
>Vaping
>White lives matter
>1 million guns
>Ancap flag
lel
>>73398745
>>73398600
You will never be Australia braliukas, just stop.
>>73401331
Shame that consumerism removes the choices that actually matter. Resources can't buy something that is a civic choice
>>73398600
China calls itself "Capitalism with Chinese Characteristics"
It is 100% free market capitalism
>>73401375
>The worker control of the means of production
that's communism, not socialism
>>73400954
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Sudan_famine
>Human Rights Watch blamed the following groups:[1]
>The government of Sudan
>The Baggara militia
>Sudan People's Liberation Army
>Dinka warlord Kerubino Kuanyin Bol
Good to know marxists helped.
>>73398745
>China
>Communist
Are you posting from a time machine?
>>73401144
What does that even mean? There is nothing stopping them from doing that under capitalism, there isn't some regiment of "capitalism enforcers" marching around Africa stopping them from growing their own food to eat and instead forcing them to sell it on the market, but they don't and end up relying on aid from other countries to survive.
Maybe there is a corrupt government doing something like that, but that doesn't sound very much like capitalism to me.
>>73401375
Technically speaking it's sort of true if you have worker co-operatives.
Although it would be such a regulatory and ideological clusterfuck that I'm far too tired to think through the details.
>>73401451
>Shame that consumerism removes the choices that actually matter.
What choices would those be?
>>73401131
The oppression, enslavement and destitution of your people do cause inflammmatory emotions.
>>73401239
I see what you're getting at but there is a difference between a welfare state and a socialist economy.
>>73401485
Communism is an idealistic stateless society.
Socialism:
>Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership and democratic control of the means of production, as well as the political ideologies, theories, and movements that aim at their establishment
>>73400007
Yeah that's totally why hundreds of thousands of them risked their lives on Africa-tier rafts to try to make it to Florida. Fuck off you lying commie son of a bitch.
>>73401485
Communism is the stateless organization of society with the advent of mass-automatization making it possible for everyone to just NEET it up and life the good life.
Socialism is the statist organization of society that Marx predicted to precede communism where the workers would control the means of production in a statist framework.
Another protip: notice how there's no C's in the name USSR. Because it stood of Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
>>73401375
Okay, how do you implement it?
You'll always end up with an inefficient system.
It's far easier for government to intervene while allowing free enterprise, rather than destroying the system and replacing it with a flawed system that hinges on people being rational.
>>73401485
No, that's socialism, one style of it. Communism is something else.
>>73401144
>in times of famine could simply eat
>famine
>simply eat
wut
>>73399600
>IMF mandated
>Free market
Pick one
>>73401144
>>73401144
No one is stopping you and a few of your comrades getting together, founding a co-op and only selling locally. That's the beauty of freedom and a free market, you can pretty much have Socialism if you want, you just wont make as much money.
>>73401689
>Another protip: notice how there's no C's in the name USSR. Because it stood of Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.
the Democratic People's Republic of Korea must be pretty good then, it says so in the name
>>73401512
Uhm, yes there isn't. There's an organization keenly devoted to preventing worker control of the means of production and it's called the CIA.
>>73400079
The French largely act to prevent the worst of the native idiocy.
>>73401512
>there isn't some regiment of "capitalism enforcers" marching around Africa
We call them the IMF
They dictate terms to African governments for repaying denbts which often include privatizing state owned enterprises and continuing to repay debts run up by prior dictatorial regimes which have just been overthrown and which weren't used to fund anything of value (i.e. corruption.)
>>73401375
True, he's not anti-white enough.
>>73401570
Civic choices, like I said. You can't buy a bus system, or satisfactory public education. Consumerism removes the choices that matter and replaces them with choices that don't
>it's another ''capitalism iz evil guize'' thread
>>73400250
>'Islamophobic'
>Not admitting that it's simply disliking sandniggers
>>73401798
Mate, if the USSR actually was communist they would have wasted know time in brandishing that around as proudly as possible because achieving something as technologically unfeasible as communist would be the accomplishment to crown all human history.
But no, they were socialist. And socialism is the best we can do for the time being.
FUCK SOCIALISM
FUCK EVERYTHING IT STANDS FOR
FUCK EVERYTHING IT DOES
FUCK EVERY IDIOT WHO LIKES IT
FUCK
FUCK FUCKF FUCK
YES I MAD
FUCK
>>73400786
>implying luxuries are a waste of resources
>>73401762
Artificial scarcity, my man.
>>73401747
I think my own Northern Ireland is a great inspiration for how all states should be structured. The state is absolutely useless for doing anything other than keeping the peace, yet has a smooth and stable bureaucracy.
If you were to create a socialist government, where it was impossible for the government to do anything apart from enforce the law whilst also being able to smoothly transition from leader to leader it would be the greatest country we currently have the means to create.
>>73398745
Shouldn't a guy from a former communist country have a good idea of what communism is?
>>73401798
"Democratic" in the name of a country is a meme in itself.
"People's" = Meaningless drivel you can't disprove.
"Republic" Technically the Kim family aren't monarchs even if succession works similarly.
"Korea" = it does claim ownership of most of Korea.
Meanwhile
"Union" = Yes, multiple countries were united.
"Soviet" = Yes, they were notionally under the control of the soviet councils even if they were practically powerless.
"Socialist" = Yes, the workers notionally did own the means of production via the state. Some would argue they were actually state-capitalist, but let's not get into that.
"Republics" = Yes, succession didn't even follow family lines.
Also
>>73401990
>if the USSR actually was communist they would have wasted know time in brandishing that around as proudly as possible
[Also, the USSR was run by the CPSU - Their end goal was communist and their ideology was to bring it about, but they stalled during socialism, hence why they were USSR and not USCR or (non-existent state because communism is a stateless society)]
>>73401869
>They dictate terms to African governments for repaying denbts which often include privatizing state owned enterprises and continuing to repay debts run up by prior dictatorial regimes which have just been overthrown and which weren't used to fund anything of value (i.e. corruption.)
The reason they can do that is because they have lent a lot of money to African nations. They used to just freeze the rent or ignore, but that made a some African dictators like Ide Amin and Mobutu Seko intentional starved or created crisises to get aid money and loans to embezzle. The corruption in nearly all African nations post colonialism has been so bad this step was taken.
>>73401927
Capitalism in Marx's time was very bad.
It's exactly thanks to Marx that you aren't working 16 hours a day and that you enjoy some safety regulations.
Marx was wrong about what is to be done, but he was absolutely right in his analysis of capitalism.
>>73402249
Those are peculiar examples. Greatest trap is to think some system can be applied everywhere.
Liberal capitalism worked great in America in past, because they were isolated, empty and full of resources.
>>73401800
So the CIA marches around Africa and takes the food out of the mouths of starving African kids because that somehow "helps capitalism"? So it's not the corrupt African governments that sell the futures of their own people, but those oh-so evil capitalists?
>>73401869
That's a better case, but that's the fault of corrupt governments, not "capitalism".
>>73401591
>muh oppression
>>73401689
It will be far more efficient if you leave the actual production to private companies run by people who are still intelligent enough to be productive and just distribute the resources with some kind of basic income scheme. Government is ok at regulating but shit-tier at producing.
>>73402314
By the way soviet and council mean the same. ''Soviet'' is council in Slavic languages.
>>73402621
I know, one thing that makes the NI government work is how the political groups are in near perfect equilibrium partially thanks to the ethnic makeup.
I'm not sure how such a retarded and ineffectual form of government could be implemented elsewhere.
>>73402626
No system is evil on it's own.
However, there are certain entities that push some systems. That's what people mean when they say ''capitalism is evil''.
And yes, capitalism, or better said neoliberalism and neoconservatism, is an ideology sponsored by Americans, who employ various means including aggression to enforce their system, because that system profits them primarily. Though today, I'd argue it only profits American elites, not Americans in general.
>>73402626
>Socialist leader pops up somewhere in the world.
>Bam, instantly assassinated/couped by the CIA.
>Country devolves into warlordism/dictatorship thanks to native collaborators.
Corrupt natives are plenty to blame. But the CIA are the biggest enforcers of capitalism contrary to any sense of democracy or indigenous support known to man.
>>73402369
>The corruption in nearly all African nations post colonialism has been so bad this step was taken.
Ultimately it's been taken because we want our investors' money back, and it's more important than the stability/living standards of a country now under a less corrupt government.
>>73402626
It ties into the general capitalist system (and how we hold the country/people responsible for the actions of a now deposed government because we'd rather not cause any trouble by saying "lol sorry investors, money's gone, maybe think harder next time")
Lest ye think I'm some kind of bleeding heart type, I think imposing more stringent direct intervention overall would be worth a try. We directly set all sorts of policy in exchange for financial aid while treating the legitimate government as nothing but regional advisory. If we actually wanted to improve living standards, the risk of corruption would be lower than just handing them money and consequently trust would be higher. They would also be under reliable democratic scrutiny [here] instead of relying on the political intricacies of the countries themselves.
>>73402373
Underrated post. Marx predicted the modern welfare-regulatory state as an alternative to communist uprisings. Turned out much better, though more work is needed to improve efficiency.
>people saying "capitalistic" as an adjective
Just say capitalist
>>73397983
Although I despise that someone would have a demand for this, if they want to buy it and someone else wants to make it, should I stop them?
I will discourage them with my judgment and attempts to shame them, but should I actually use force to stop them?
I don't know. Something would have to be a lot more obviously dangerous to society for me to consider using force to stop them. Something like mass immigration of sub 80 iq foreigners that speak a different language.
>>73401040
USA, around the year ~1900
>>73401126
That's only because he lost. They were only able to take him down with virtually the entire world against him.
>>73403492
Man, I sure do miss those times. Killing Injuns and owning people.
>>73403492
That's false. You could argue about American frontier though.
In any case, those systems worked simply because America was isolated from the center of global politics at that time, and because they had abundance of resources and empty land, as well as being a new country with a lot of vigor.
You can't repeat that today.
>>73400369
>Free markets direct resources to their most valued uses
>There is no value in feeding a Starvin' Marvin
There's a rule above that one though. Starvin Marvin can't consume more than his productivity.
>>73403813
>You can't repeat that today
>>73398888
The numbers speak the truth
>>73403963
Excellent reply. As to how it goes in different setting, see Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
>>73399696
>Criticizing a portion of capitalism means you are socialist
Someone is too fucking butthurt
>>73403087
I think it's a little easy to blame capitalism when any superpower (like the US nowadays) is going to assassinate people to gain more power or prevent the loss of it, it doesn't seem like it's necessararily capitalism that causes it, as any other nation in the same position would do the same regardless of whether they were capitalist or socialist or communist or whatever. Kind of like what >>73403061 said.
>>73403163
I suppose that's a fair enough, at least that is actually something capitalism is responsible for.
>>73403061
Same thing with religion then?
>>73404590
I know they would, but the crux of my argument is that communism is good and capitalism is bad so if say the KGB was causing communist revolutions all over the planet this would be good.
>>73404747
I maybe exaggerated when I said ''every'', but you get the point. Outside of extremes most ideologies promise good things. However, their real test is their real life application.
>>73404903
I agree with you - I'm just clarifying that. I have often used nationalism as a rebuttal to the idea that certain religions are inherently violent and/or destructive
>>73401910
>you can't buy public transport or public education
Ok? What does that even prove, and why would I want to? I can still choose whether to pay for use of public transport or private transport (like my own car). Also private schools, charter schools, and home schooling are things.
>>73397983
delete this retard
>be teenager
>offer next door neighbor to mow their lawn for $30
>next day the People's Cooperative Democratic Socialist Party take my neighbor behind the wall and shoot him for exploiting me and not giving me the full value of my surplus labor
such is life
>>73398650
>>73398745
It's conveniently communist when capitalists want to use it as an example for why communism is bad.
>>73401771
This.
A free market is simply a situation where individuals can make transactions without interference by a third party.
The IMF is basically a body that pimps neoliberalism/conservatism and Keynsianism/Monetarism full time.
>>73397983
Capitalism produces what people want, can afford, and are willing to pay for. Socialism produces what the central planners think should be produced; a few hundred men decide the economic activity of millions. Communism produces what the collective ownership votes to produce.
>>73406017
>be teenager
>have 10 friends, 2 brothers
>all work for $1 an hour in a factory for Megacorp, based in the US
>accidentally get my hand cut off
>fired
>die on the street because I can no longer work
Such is life
>>73397983
If someone can acquire the means to allow for the manufacturing of a dildo with flashing lights, and want to have such a product made, why shouldn't they? If this was done by tax dollars I'd understand, but you are totally unaffected.
socialism was a mistake
>>73397983
> econonmic advice thread
> OP Is greek
> Exhale quickly out of nostrils
>>73397983
Of course. /pol/ is mostly 20 year old edgy students
>>73407161
>bullshit counterfactual in response to a scenario that is basically Kulak.jpg
K.
>>73399991
Because the criticism is never good
>>73401114
that's not a picture from reddit, it's from an alt right facebook page
I made that exact point when it was first posted and everyone just went "LALALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU"
>>73407477
How is it counterfactual or bullshit?
I get that your Aussieposting but c'mon
>>73398600
China is more facist rather than communists.
Read more nigga
>>73407238
I kinda wish this was tumblr right now, because we have a brown person with lived experience saying socialism sux.
How the fuck are you on the internet right now, out of interest?
>>73407220
Because the resources going into making dildos with flashing lights could be put into something "better" with more benefit to society. It's all subjective though, maybe dildos are the best use of resources in your opinion.
>>73399696
>WE WUZ VICTIMS OF COMMUNISH: THE POST
>>73399696
Fucking based Bulgaria
>>73405786
>I can still choose whether to pay for use of public transport or private transport (like my own car)
No you can't, not if your city doesn't have an efficient public transportation system. That decision has been taken away from you.
>why would I want to
If you can't afford a car?
>Also private schools, charter schools, and home schooling are things
That's the point. It's the privatization of things that we used to demand as citizens. Yes, you might be able to afford private schools, but not everyone can. And those that can't are stuck with a shitty, failing public school system that isn't supported as an institution anymore.
