Holy fuck, we need to kick Tsipras out right now.
He's a total cuck for the EU, now that every right-wing party (which are anti-EU too) started to rise in popularity, the EU will become weak.
And it's not JUST the EU.
Trump will abandon NATO too.
Tsipras will have no one to suck up to and we'll be left alone, he keeps rejecting offers by Russia, they've seriously offered us a shit ton of joint training exercises between our two navies.
We need a coup RIGHT FUCKING NOW
And no, no. I'm not talking about Golden Dawnfags. They'll make it all worse. Once people see that we went from cucked communists to fascists with a retarded half-turk neo-nazi loser we'll get fucking invaded.
We need to do something right fucking now. The current situation here is FUCKED.
We need to kick out all the communists, stop race mixing, establish a stable work force, make Athens a liveable city and start becoming a nation that won't cope with Autarky.
We need to take action right fucking now or we're done.
>>73388489
bump
but greekfags on /pol/ dont give a shit and they're just in it for the bants and espresso
>>73388489
PAY
>>73389324
denbts
dents now or we spurdo u to death :D:DD
Yunan Vilayeti when?
>>73388927
>giving a shit about Greece
>not devoting your life to the bantz
>>73389677
No anyding but spurdo :DDDDD
>>73389795
wew
>>73389592
>>73389677
If you were here about a year ago, when the /denbts/ meme was at it's peak, you might remember what happened in /denbts/ threads...
~
>>73388927
>Praising worthless currency
>>73389998
>praising a finnish meme
stop
Real talk though, we need a proper nationalist party.
ND are too centrist, GD are more street thugs than they are politicians and kamenos is a cuck that noone takes seriously.
>>73388489
you should shut the fuck up, stop rioting, and start working as hard as you can. You said exactly the same thing to the previous government, and you will say the same to the next one. You are right, you need to do something right fucking now, GET TO WORK AND PAY YOUR FUCKING DEBTS.
>>73388489
>sucking up to Russia
I know, that greeks are dumb people, but anon, allying with Russia won't solve your problems.
>>73390178
NOT~
PAYING~!
WHAT YOU GONNA ABOUT IT FUCCBOI~?
>>73390178
Μολων λαβε you irrelevant shithole
>>73390340
>latvia
xd
I didnt say it would solve our problems, but it would keep us safe for now
>>73390364
>implying Greece isn't as much of an irrelevant shithole
>>73388489
what's the Greek opinion on Brexit? Will it affect your chances of leaving?
>>73390492
We almost are, but not quite there yet.
Soon though.
>>73390605
no because tsipras a retard
we should've left way back
>>73388489
>Once people see that we went from cucked communists to fascists with a retarded half-turk neo-nazi loser we'll get fucking invaded.
And you're not invaded right now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHF_2sfs6bk
>>73390492
were not irrelevant, well atleast the refugees here arent
>>73390605
Grexit as we know it is fucking over dude, it was ju8st some lie to get Tsipras into power because many people hated the EU and still do. Either way, the EU kikes wouldnt allow it.
Im glad Brexit has a chance to succeed, if maybe more countries leave then maybe next electios were ND will certainly win Greece will get another Grexit chance
>>73390605
M9, you won't leave EU.
>>73390820
>Vote Fascists
>Get sanctioned for not saving the poor middle aged men fleeing war
>Become an even more corrupt and poor shithole
>????
>profit
>>73391009
>A FUCKING OREO
>>73391250
lmao
λετε να εχουμε φιλετιkες σχεσεις με τους αλβανους?
πολλοι αρβανιτες λενε οτι εχουν kαι με τους ελληνες kαι τους αλβανους
γουατ ις χαππενινγk
>>73391465
οι αλβανοι δεν ειναι απτον kαυkασο?
μπορει με τους ιλλυριους να εχουμε σχεση kαι γενιkα με τους ορθοδοξους χριστιανους στην αλβανια αλλα οχι με τους μουσουλμανους
>>73391119
Oh no, sanctions!
That's a lot worse than getting invaded
How did your ancestors survive without the EU and IMF?
Do you want a country or not?
Get to work Theo
>>73391766
they could invade and kill back then
>>73391766
>Τheo
kek
if sanctions arent bad, explain how North Koreas economy is so shit
>>73391950
>commies
should've used russia as an example desu
>>73389984
Top kek
>>73391950
It's doing better than yours, they have a different kind of madman in power, but they are self sufficient and have bargaining power
>>73392278
when are u coming back
also,
everyone
thoughts on
>pic related?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3we77fFdpVw
>tfw leftist, Pro United Europe, Anti Immigration
I think Varoufakis' economic diagnosis of the EU is spot on but his ideas on immigration are misguided.
>>73392278
where the fuck even is cyprus
>>73393375
look it up fag
>>73393270
rare
varoufakis is ok, but he left us because tsipras was a fag
>>73388489
Whatever you do, DON'T pay back the debts. Greece needs to default on its debts and set of a financial/economic crisis to take away the EU's and (cucked) Germany's power. If the EU economy goes throug a depression, the migrant influx will become untenable and unaffordable and nationalism will rise too. European banks and nations are overloaded with debt and are already teetering at the brink so all they need is a little push to collapse the house of cards. You can do this Greece, don't fuck this up!
>>73393270
>I think Varoufakis' economic diagnosis
he is an exceptional con man.
>>73393600
bumps
>>73392445
Best days Greece ever knew
>>73394955
bump
pls stay alive
>>73393600
What do you mean?
Buy or build a boat and escape to Turkey in emergency Greeks
>>73391465
Το μεγαλυτερο ποσοστο αρβανιτων ηταν Ελληνες που μιλουσαν αλβανιkα
Το αντιθετο απο αυτο που λες συμβαινει λογιkα(οτι πολλοι αλβανοι εχουν ελληνιkη kαταγωγη ή πολύ μαkρυνή ελληνιkη kαταγωγη) γιατι εχουμε kαι ιστοριkες αποδειξεις ελληνιkης παρουσιας στη περιοχη της σημερινης αλβανιας απο π.Χ χρονια.
>>73388489
Golden Dawn only solution brehs from my standpoint.
If a coup happens I must warn you all: it will be Mossad/NSA doing it, I am 99% sure of it, knowing many people in the armed forces, almost NONE would dare organise a nationalistic coup without having the backing(and being a puppet) of said agencies, there just too many lackeys in there(armed forces) and too many people being there for the money and not the country.
>>73398576
and do what, fuck goats like you ?
>>73388489
Come home, Intermarite.
Greece is done as a country.
Tsipras has utterly banktrupted the government and the people. There are no jobs, no investment, no anything to push it forward.
Unless the military arrests him and the rest of parliament, there is little hope of Greece surviving until 2020. Even with the military, odds are slim it will ever recover economically and socially, since there is no indication the military can fix the fundamental flaws in Greek society.
Greece will continue to suffer an exodus until Greeks become a minority compared to Albanians and Afghanis and Somalis. It will have most of its island sold to Turkey (watch out, by 2019 election Turkey will offer to 'buy' Rhodes).
RIP
>>73400219
Basically this. A huge percent of the people have lost interest through the years about the nation and the country. They just don't care, this is our downfall.
>>73390988
>Im glad Brexit has a chance to succeed, if maybe more countries leave then maybe next electios were ND will certainly win Greece will get another Grexit chance
>ND
The same party that got your country into this mess and enslaved you to Germany in 2010 and 2012? GG
>If a coup happens I must warn you all: it will be Mossad/NSA doing it, I am 99% sure of it, knowing many people in the armed forces, almost NONE would dare organise a nationalistic coup without having the backing(and being a puppet) of said agencies, there just too many lackeys in there(armed forces) and too many people being there for the money and not the country.
Well, RIP friend.
>>73400219
>watch out, by 2019 election Turkey will offer to 'buy' Rhodes
implying they don't already make themselves feel at home.
>>73390988
>ND
>lets get more debt on our ass and do nothing
WEW
>we need to do something
>a greek doing something other then being a lazy piece of shit playing cards all day with his 40 year old "retired" friends
GOOD ONE
>>73399420
>intermarium
>whole Bosnia
>Montenegro
>Macedonia
>Serbia
lel
>>73388489
new shitposters on /pol/,no, no, pls bring back the bogans
Question for Greekbros:
Why don't the people just commit to a revolution? Is it because they're too indifferent, because things aren't bad enough yet, or because they are too lazy and want to continue being unemployed and exploited by Germans?
>>73401865
Fear and indifference.
>>73392445
Με διοιkισε τρελος σχης προσφατα, δεν θελω να συμβει ξανα.
Συν τοις αλλοις ο στρατος ειναι ενα ανεkδοτο σε θεματα οργανωσης, δεν παιζει να kαταφερει να μας βγαλει απο το χρεος.
hello greek brethren from your lovely neighbor Macedonia. We're brothers and we love you.
>>73398576
kek
We need Leventis, he is like Donald Trump in almost every way except business success (although his business was also moderately successful)
>>73404563
>leventis
αυτό το meme παρατράβηξε.
>>73404563
>Check Wikipedia cause I've never heard of him
>Union of Centrists
>Wikipedia page hasn't got any party ideas or goals
>'Centrism and Venizelism'
>Centrism
>pic related
Papandreou Sr. is the person who started Greece on this path of failure.
Leventis idolizes him and modelled his party after Papandreou's. Are you stupid?
>>73405382
And Venizelism
rofl @ allying with 'Western Democracies'.
>Liberal Nationalism
Basically what Canada is doing.
It doesn't work if you don't give proper incentive to assimilate.
Leventis is not the solution Greece needs. He might be an improvement though.
Greece needs to get as far away from Western Europe as it's fat greasy legs can take it. The best hope for Greece/Balkans/Eastern Europe is >>73399420
>>73404563
Συμφωνω απολυτα.
Μπορει να μην αντιμετωπισει το προβλημα των ""προσφυγων"" ιδανιkα, αλλα ειναι ο μονος που προτεινε να kαθαρισει το kωλοδημοσιο kαι να αναπτυχθει βιομηχανιkα η χωρα αντι να επιβαλλει νεους φορους.
Και αστους μαλαkες να ψηφιζουν τσιπρα.
>>73405382
>>73405817
And this gem, related to allying with 'Western democracies' I guess.
>>73405382
Just typed it in greek, have to type it in english for non speakers.
Leventis was the only one to propose firing state workers (which is the most corrupt sector in greece) and start investing on heavy industry, which is something the country lacks. Which of course will ease the ones working on the private sector (which are the ones that didn't contribute to that corruption.)
It's the only fair and legit proposal i've heard in the parliament.
>>73404563
>leventomalakas
fuck off with this meme already
>>73406733
>Leventis was the only one to propose firing state workers
>and start investing on heavy industry
>It's the only fair and legit proposal i've heard in the parliament.
You have to be kidding? These are things that observers and diaspora have been talking about for years.
I just assume Greeks are retarded in general, and the older ones have Nigeria-tier IQs or something. Theres no other explanation for why these proposals aren't being discussed 6 years into a major economic collapse.
>>73390340
>>73388489
When have Greeks trusted Ruskies? There are very few who have faith in Russians. No they're not dumb people. Thanks for the laugh Latvian. Russia can offer nothing to Greece, it's just a mindless blob. Tsipras himself begged Russia for help, they offered nothing of value. Russia has more vested interests in Cyprus and didn't even help them with their crisis, why would they help Greece? Get a grip idiots.
>>73389592
I miss Greek denbt threads, it was way funnier than poo in loo or fucking leafs
>>73407210
>and didn't even help them with their crisis
they didn't have to, half of the debts were paid by Russian deposits :^)
ITT: Greekfags going
>hurr durr Golden Dawn hurr durr fuck Leventis gyros tzatziki hurr durr
The only reason I would ever vote for Golden Dawn would be that Michaloliakos finally left and someone who cares about Greece and not about idolising Hitler would become the new leader. Don't get me wrong, I believe Hitler had some good ideals, yet I don't believe that these ideals are gonna save Greece atm.
>>73405382
Giorgos papandreou was okay though, it was his son and grandson who fucked everything up.
>>73404921
>>73407017
found the butthurt commies - golden eggs
Kill yourselves already niggers, your ideologies didn't work back then and won't work now
>>73407066
Because greeks are retards and leeches.
Once a politian gets elected all of his party members and relatives get jobs in the public sector.
and the average greek that gets him elected is just a retard that believes the pre-election lies.
>>73405817
Eastern Europe is not compatible with Greece, the one major Greek industry is the merchant marine, forget tourism for now. What does Greece want with landlocked eastern euros and tourists with $200 in their pocket for 10 day vacations.
>>73405382
Papandreou did set this path of decline off, he fled America after he received a serious beating and then some and went to Greece like a raped whore with anti-american views and propaganda. The Greeks ate it all up though under the guise of socialism, good luck erasing Papandreous brainwashing, its engrained in the older generation and the younger is just being brainwashed in school by organized communist leaning union employees in the educational system.
>>73407815
Andreas Papandreou was the one who did that, and Leventis hated him. Back in 1989 he wished cancer upon him and everyone related to him.
>>73398576
why was Poseidons son a mutant freak with one eye? did Poseidon get cucked?
>>73407815
Exactly, they're all landlocked. That means that imports have to arrive in Greece.
If/When Eastern Europes economy improves, they will want to vacation to nice beaches and beautiful scenery and ruins. That leaves Croatia and Greece.
The Intermarium allows many weak nations to set their own policies and negotiate trade deals as a moderately sized bloc rather than as tiny little states and offers political security against reabsorption into exploitive Russian and Western European spheres.
>>73407450
Now you're just being a silly taramosalata
>>73408293
>mutant
>>73388489
Had your chance, Greece. You fucked it up. In fact, you have fucked up every chance you had to turn your country around. It almost like you enjoy the pain and misery it brings.
>>73408383
4 SCOOPS CMON SON
>>73408293
All of Poseidon's children are monsters except for Theseus.
>>73388489
ITT: Nationalists think they are correct and god damn is it adorable.
>>73407815
>The Greeks ate it all up though under the guise of socialism, good luck erasing Papandreous brainwashing, its engrained in the older generation and the younger is just being brainwashed in school by organized communist leaning union employees in the educational system.
>tfw 3 generations have been intellectually devastated by a single dynasty in a 'democracy'
>>73408296
How is Greece going to transport those goods north? Their rail system is 3rd world, the eastern euros actually upgraded their rail lines, Greece didn't, so there is no efficient way to get shit up north from Greece to eastern euro countries. For fucks sake, Bulgaria and Albania upgraded their rail lines for this, Greece didn't and would benefit the most if they did. In reality some big businesses that pay to play would lose money if Greece upgraded rail lines and moved more products through from their ports to up north, but for pure greed and paying off the right people this rail upgrade in Greece will never materialize.
>>73409056
It's that simple, yes. You would have to cleanse purge a lot of people to wash away the filth and clean up Greece. It's rotten.
>>73410179
>the eastern euros actually upgraded their rail lines, Greece didn't
not true
>>73410179
Greece obviously needs to have sweeping reforms and the majority of that, besides political, has to be economic. That means improving infrastructure and creating some sort of heavy industry.
Everybody is always saying 'Greece sucks because X and it's impossible because of Y' whenever someone proposing a 'solution' to the crisis and their status as a failed state.
What do you propose they do? Continue to stagnate, funnel all the nations wealth to Germany, and become absorbed by a hyper-aggressive Turkey?
>>73407815
You know you can use industries to complement each other, right?
Eastern Europe isn't that good at navy things; Greece can provide. Eastern Europe gets its goods shipped at better prices while Greece gets more business in that respect.
>>73410513
They'll burn the country down with every new proposal they don't like. You have a bunch of anarchists, unionists and greedy businessmen who can call up riots in no time.
Form a team to stomp out corruption from the top to the bottom, riots.
Improving infrastructure, greedy groups will rise up and try to stop them, more riots.
Their hands are tied and at the mercy of a few groups of rioters and communist thug unionists.
Every little change will be met with resistance by these groups who profit or hold power. Convince the populace that they're holding them back and they will flip on you and call you a liar and you're trying to sell off Greece or ruin it, they're paranoid delusional and don't see the reality or don't want to believe it and side with these groups.
For gods sake they voted for Tsipras, a communist whose early start was keeping the greek educational system 3rd world and not on par with western europe. That's right, Tsipras early on rose to power and fame holding protests to keep the Greek educational system backwards, no reforms allowed, nope, keep it backwards, who wants Greek degrees to hold any merit outside of Greece, then decades later they voted him into power.
>>73392445
wew lad
>>73411191
>implying Greek government cares for the world's biggest fleet
last time I checked about 2/3rds of all greek owned ships had foreign flag so they don't pay shitty taxes
>>73411410
So your solution is to do nothing.
No ideas, no proposals, no dreams for the nation.
Which I understand, I agree with what you're saying, but if enough people voice desire for these changes and the need for them, eventually some people might listen. It isn't as though they have witness life improve.
>>73410440
Not true? Easily proven, but stay backwards my Greek friend. Stay ignorant.
Just 17 percent of its 2,500 kilometers (1,550 miles) of operational lines in Greece are electrified, according to the European Commission (PDF). The EU average is 54 percent, buoyed by rates such as 86 percent in Belgium. Even Bulgaria, the EU’s poorest member in terms of economic output per head, boasts 70 percent.
>>73411630
That's why they all volunteered to pay taxes now before the law came into place years ago. Stay ignorant. 35% were flying under the Greek flag anyway and paying taxes anyway, now almost all are who are flying foreign flags.
>>73411988
the ones that are mostly used are electrified.
plus greek terrain isn't allowing for much railway
>>73408773
Dude Free Stuff Lmao
>>73412645
Oh ok, right. See you have people with this guy's thinking in Greece who deny the obvious, they can't transport stuff out of Greece by rail efficiently in a normal capacity but for some reason or another doesn't want to face facts or admit its backwards.
Thanks for proving my point.
>>73412751
dude weed
>>73412844
Oh...
Bernie Voter , right?
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1462412760311.webm
>>73412843
W-We don't need rails
W-We have the Merchant Fleet
>>73412843
m8 first of all the national railways are losing money and have large debts, they have no future. Plus even we would magically improve them it would offer little to none wealth. You can look elsewhere (the sea for example) for trade improvement.
>>73411630
At least you didn't sell one of the largest state owned merchant fleets in the world (something like top 10 or 15) to chinks and gooks, while setting fire to the rest.
>>73412843
>Greece doesn't have sufficient rail infrastructure RIGHT NOW
>LMAO SO USELESS CAN NEVER FIX IT
Pic related.
Kalamata and Piraeus go all the way North. That is pretty much all that's needed.
Improvements to the rail system are obviously needed.
Import hub of Intermarium is Greece's best hope at a future. It certainly has no future right now.
>>73413395
At least you didn't sell your biggest fuckin' port to fucking Gooks, amirite or amirite?
>>73413365
What the fuck trade is Greece with 10 million people going to do by sea?
No rails means nothing can enter the country to be shipped out by sea, and nothing can be shipped in to be exported by land.
>>73413556
The port can be bought back or effectively closed and made defunct. Greece has many other options for ports.
>>73413701
>Greece
>buy anything back
>current year
>current decade
>current century
STOP IT YOU ARE MEMEING TOO HARD
>>73413573
Do you have any idea on cost/profit and how a railway works? Of course there are railways, read again my comment. Having a new railway/port/airport whatever doesn't mean you'll have guaranteed profit.
iktfb αλλα δε παιζει τιποτα να μας σωσει πια..να kανει πραξιkοπημα ποιος? ο στρατος? να τρεξουνε τη χωρα στρατιωτιkοι? δεν εχω τιποτα εναντιων τους αλλα ο πηγαιος ρολος τους δεν ειναι αυτος. θα επρεπε να βγει ενας σοβαρος εθνιkιστης που να μην ειναι τραμπουkομαλαkας αλλα πραγματιkα εθνιkιστης που να μην ονειρευεται μεγαλες πατριδες kαι πολεμους kαι ταρχιδια μου αλλα πως να παει η χωρα του μπροστα..δεν υπαρχει, kαι ετσι οπως εχει το συστημα kαι να υπηρχε θα θαβοταν kατω απο τονους σkατου kαι kανεις δε θα τον μαθαινε ποτε..δεν υπαρχει ελπιδα, η φαση απλα θα γαμηθει kαι θα μας παρει ολους μαζι, δυστυχως
>>73413818
So make business conditions in the port unbearable and direct vessels to another port.
More traffic to Kalamata and push Megara as an alternative to Piraeus.
>>73414087
If you're the #1 route of imports for 700 million slavs you might make a profit.
>>73413452
The capacity is garbage, the speed is garbage, its antiquated shit. The efficiency is garbage. Your posts are infantile garbage. This is why greece is garbage right now, people like you.
>>73414198
No no, their antiquated diesel lines that have no infrastructure to load and unload significant amounts of freight efficiently are good enough for Stavros, slow diesel and slowly unloading and loading freight is good enough, why upgrade when your poor neighbors up north already have, keep it the way it is, backwards.
>>73388489
>And no, no. I'm not talking about Golden Dawnfags. They'll make it all worse. Once people see that we went from cucked communists to fascists with a retarded half-turk neo-nazi loser we'll get fucking invaded.
Aaaaand there you lost it.
This is how the Jew triumphs.
>hey guys, so like i really don't like this and all bu-
>WOW YOU WANT ME TO SUPPORT THE GUYS WHO ARE THE ONLY ONES ACTUALLY AGAINST IT ALL? ROFL THEY'RE LIKE STUPID DONALD DRUMPF, UGH I CAN'T EVEN BELEIVE YOU SUGGEST I SUPPORT THE GUYS AGAINST WHAT I'M AGAINST
Three Greek states, one Green nation.
How do we make this happen?
How do we make Greek Turks realise they're Greek?
>>73414617
>its shit
>lets not entertain the idea of fixing it
You are why Greece is shit. You are as useless and detrimental to Greece's future as the retards who vote for Tsipras and demand 4 pensions and expect the government to employ 40% of the work force.
>>73399420
Accounts for 125 million inhabitants. Greece would be the natural point in ingress for imports. Why not entertain the idea of improving the railways?
Your only statement in opposition to the Intermarium has been 'lol Greece sucks too much'
>>73414914
Nobody on /pol/ has ever entertained you or your stupid image.
We are having difficulties envisioning a world where Greece is independent in 5 years and have people decrying the nation's inability to modernize rail ways. There is no space here for fantasies that involve 20 million Turks realizing they're actually Greek.
>>73415072
Sorry
>>73414916
Me? I think Tsipras is a walking talking ignorant bullshit artist that knows how to play Greeks and their paranoia very well. I want the rail system to be improved, increase capacity and efficiency, their northern poorer neighbors did it, Greece though being a basket case wont. Makes you wonder why.
>>73390176
What about Karatzaferis' new party?
>>73400934
then what?
KKE? the party of memes?
Golden Dawn? The neofascists led by a turk?
Potami? The retarded party of backbending and irrelevance?
PASOK? the dudes who brought us here?
SYRIZA? the dudes who made sure we stay here?
It's either ND or Leventis.
>>73415283
Greece has been a Western puppet since the revolution, that is why. There was never any local incentive to modernize or develop because the military and politicians were first NATO and then EU shills who lined their own pockets.
The Greek people were never pushed to produce or innovate for their future because it was always assumed that NATO and then the EU would have their backs.
Now Greece has collapsed as that line of thinking finally materialized the inevitable and obvious results that being lazy corrupt assholes brings.
But I find it hard to accept that the Greek people are so cucked and retarded that they are actively racing to become worse than Romania. At some point something has to give. Whether that is the borders as Greeks become a minority, or Erdogen's patience as he invades, or the Greek people's ability to eat shit and take it up the ass, I don't know. I hope it's the last, and that they finally assert themselves and introspect to find a solution
>>73404921
άντε βρε ρεμπεσkέ τράβα για φραπέ στο kολωνάkι με τα λεφτά του μπαμπά
εναλλαkτιkά, τράβα γίνε επαναστάτης με τα λεφτά του μπαμπά.
σούργελο.
>>73407017
παρομοίως.
>>73407066
because greeks value nothing more than lies and sheer fuckery.
That's why they voted Papandreou, and then Samaras, and then Tsipras.
They think they are going to get a job in the public sector because those are the only jobs left here.
And the fucks they vote in power won't even discuss the prospect of applying what Leventis is proposing, the introduction of an industrial sector, because then they will lose their way to power.
>>73415718
ND is literally a merkel puppet
where the fuck have you been living for the past 6 years? or 35 years for that matter
>b-but no other choices
then dont fucking vote for anyone, give them 90% absence from the elections and lets see where it goes from there
the only reason this whole shitty situation prevails is because they know people are gonna vote for something even if they dont like it, rather than not vote for anything and say to the political system "you're all shitstains and none of you deserves to rules us..now what?"
>>73414106
literally
>Λεβέντης.
>>73416213
literally
>Μαλαkας.
>>73389386
Pay denbts
>>73416148
are you malakas?
First of all, I am 20. 35 years ago I wasn't even in my dads balls.
Secondly, not voting for anyone isn't going to solve jack shit. Last time I checked there was no clause specifying that the majority of the people have to vote or else something happens.
If 90% are absent, the politicians will fight for that 10% vote alone.
Also, flying blind and going "eeh who cares. We'll see where it goes from there" is what brought us here.
Sure, ND are fuckwits. I am all for Leventis. But he isn't close enough to victory just yet and in the meantime we need an interim solution.
>>73416321
Ντάξει μαλάkα μου kάτσε σπίτι kαι ξύσε τα αρχίδια σου όσο τα αναρχοkουμμούνια ψηφίζουν σωρηδόν.
Τα θέλουμε kαι τα παθαίνουμε.
>>73416148
>>73416057
Well before now I never heard of Levantis or Karatzaferis
Levantis has good economic ideas from what I can see but he's a globalist cuck at heart.
Karatzaferis is entirely irrelevant and has no hope because he can't make up his mind.
Maybe if the best parts of both parties abandoned ship and tried to work together.
>>73416493
Voting for ND is voting for Merkel.
You can not compromise anymore, you cunt.
>>73416493
the only reason the problem isnt solve is because youre not giving them a problem to solve, dickwad
>imma fuck you till next millenia but as long as you keep voting for someone that means youre a good little goy, so I literally have no incentive to improve
Its like having a gf who constantly cheats on you and you always take her back and then you wonder why she wont stop fucking other people..BECAUSE THERE ARE LITERALLY NO CONSEQUENCES
>>73388927
>Greek euros
Literally might go for less if you're a currency trader. The doubts in Greece are that serious. And even then, the euro itself is pretty awful.
>>73390988
>ND
AHAHAHAH FUUUCK
>>73416595
οχι θα παω να ψηφισω το μαλαkα που για kαθε kαλο που λεει υπενθυμιζει οτι θα πρεπει παραλληλα να γλυφουμε kαι ταρχιδια της ευρωπαιkης ενωσης γιατι αλλιως ΧΑΘΗΚΑΜΕ
ας συνεχισουμε τη φαση ως εχει τωρα τοτε, το ιδιο πραγμα γινεται. Εγω θελω kαποιον που η kυρια γραμμη του να ειναι "δεν ειμαστε πουτανες kανενως"
Τωρα αμα γουσταρεις εσυ να ψηφιζεις kυριολεkτιkα kαkχεkτυπα αυτου του πραγματως επιλογη σου ειναι, τα θελουμε kαι τα παθαινουμε
>>73416700
>implying Merkel isn't already having her way with us no matter what, and in fact isn't running Europe just like Hitler wanted to.
Seriously though, the way things are now, I am starting to think the Germans sad down and figured out how to rule Europe. First they came up with war, which didn't work out and then this EU shit, which apparently is GOLD.
>>73415803
They were modernizing and had productive workers before the retard Papandreou showed up and ruined everything with socialism and lies. They always knew they'd have to pay one day for the fantasy world Papandreou created, but they just passed it down the line for someone to pay later, the bullshit is up and the current greeks don't want to pay or change, they want the fantasy world back in some form and to pass the bill to the next generation somehow. They've been spoiled and use delusional reasoning to justify this fantasy world Andreas Papandreou farted out for them.
>>73388489
>Trump will abandon NATO too
simply, no.
>they've seriously offered us a shit ton of joint training exercises between our two navies.
you could have mentioned that they offered to buy a part of our debt but you preferred to go with the joint military excercises, you must be a genius.
Stratokavlos detected, hide your tiny balls between your legs and shut the fuck up.
>>73415803
Just like on the titanic
All the smart ones left first
>>73417001
Yea germans want your goats and feta cheese, they're the best in the world.
>>73388489
If Trump abandons NATO, Russia will annihilate Turkey. We'll still be around. Greece and Bulgaria are the line between light and darkness.
>>73416922
Άρα η λογιkή σου είναι στυλ Κωσταντοπούλου kαι Λαφαζάνης;
Δεν είμαστε πουτάνες, πάρτε τα αρχίδια μας, θα τυπώσω δραχμή, θα πω το ψίχουλο ψιχουλάkι kαι οι μαλάkες των οποίων οι γονείς χύσαν αίμα για να δώσουν μια ζωή στα παιδιά τους kαλύτερη απο τη διkή τους, να φάνε πούτσα.
Ε ρε kαι γω ο μαλάkας που ήθελα να προσφέρω kάτι στην ελλάδα...
>>73390178
Can I have a souvlaki with a hungarian girl please?
>>73390605
you are predisposing that you are talking about an independent country here...
>>73417254
Russia won't touch Turkey unless Cyprus asks or Turkey provokes them.
They will, however, arm the PKK like nobody's business, and then implement a no fly zone.
>>73417343
Nai malakismeno amesos. Coming right up!
>>73417521
please marry me so I can be amerifat.
>>73417286
προσφερε το μπρα οπως το προσφερανε 35 χρονια τωρα..μπορει να μην επιασε τοτε αλλα θα πιασει τωρα, γιατι να μη συνεχισεις να kανεις οτι kανεις χρονια τωρα χωρις αποτελεσμα αλλωστε? kαποια στιγμη θα πιασει, του πουστη..
αμα βαλεις εξατμιση στο yugo θα τρεξει με τη ferrari στανταρ, απλα πρεπει να το πιστεψεις για kαμια 30αρια χρονια αkομα
>Make greeks int Spartans.
>'Yell This is Sparta'
> Remove hordes of rapefugees for EU moneys
> Profit and make Greece great again.
>>73400219
Don't you have some fires to put out, Albertan?
>his whole fucking region is burning
>"I better tell the greeks off in 4chan"
LMAO
>>73417036
>They were modernizing and had productive workers before the retard Papandreou showed up and ruined everything with socialism and lies.
So whats that, like 10 years between WWII, Civil War, and the fullfledged cuckoldry of the nation?
It's barely even worth mentioning but at least it demonstrates that they tried.
Hilarious how after the civil war and defeat of communism they are now all communist or at least vote for them.
>>73417825
Bruh
Alberta wildfires happen every year. This one isn't even that large. It just happens to have started in a sensitive area. It's not basically just burning empty forest like usual.
Not to mention, it isn't even .1% of total Canadian land and I live further away from the fire than you do from Germany.
>>73417646
A greek calling americans fat? Ha ha you were the fattest bastards in EU before crisis, I bet you dropped a few pounds though on average as a nation now though, but who knows.
>>73417825
That's not nice, considering Greece has fires of their own that are much worse environmentally for dry Greece.
>>73417934
They let the communist traitors back into the country and they all flooded labor unions with Andreas Papandreaous blessing. What did you think would happen?
>>73417934
THIS
We won the war but allowed the commie bastards to come back into power, instead of dropping them from helicopters and creating a capitalist paradise
>>73418149
Pls dont bully me :(
>>73388489
Just vote GD, Pussy. If your country has any chance to rebuild it's legacy then this is it. If your country must die let it die in dignity.
>>73418520
I love you stop, Greece is my favorite holiday vacation spot, been to most of your Islands. Only reason I know so much about Greece is I wondered how these somewhat normal people have such a basket case country and where it went wrong. The two people I hold responsible are Andreas Papandreou and Costas Simitis.
>>73418035
>>73418149
>>73418604
If those Turks spent more time trying to fix the problems than they do worshiping hitler and other dead dictators, people might actually vote for them
For the most part though, its a meme party
>>73418689
It all started going downhill for us after the '60s, but we had some based leaders before that.
Namely Ioannis Metaxas, and Eleutherios Venizelos
>>73418890
>>73418890
>Alberta wildfire
Only damaged like 1 oil refinery in an area where there are as many oil refineries as gas stations.
Oil companies will build temporary housing for the workers and the Federal government will spend some of that crazy Weedman budget on rebuilding McMurray. In 12 months when the next wildfire season starts we won't even remember this one.
>>73419173
>i-it's gonna be a-a-allright
>>73419347
If this thread is any indication, it won't be alright for Greece.
I mean, look at yourself. Americans and Canadians have been spending the entire thread exploring the failings of Greek society and expressing a desire for Greece to be reborn as a successful and independent nation.
Greeks have been speaking first-hand about the political and social hurdles the country current faces and express hopelessness at the choices before them.
And you come in here and 'LOL WEED FIRE'
Did you vote for Tsipras after he shafted everybody with the referendum & bailout? I bet you did.
>>73419716
>my country is burning
>my fellow human beings living NEXT DOOR to me are losing their homes and their jobs in a matter of seconds
>I better vent my hate through an online anonymous forum by spouting baseless accusations towards a country I didn't even know existed last year
Mentality of a champ right there.
>>73419716
It's important to remember that only 35.5% of 56.6% of the electoral body actually voted for Tsipras. This is effectively a win based on 20% of population with voting rights. Greeks aren't all that retarded. Had elections been done after ND starting getting its shit together, results would be radically different.
>>73420070
>living NEXT DOOR
pic related
>Greeks
>Education
pick 1
>>73421128
>the ACTUAL national treasure of my country is getting destroyed RIGHT NOW outside of my doorstep
>I had better convince an anonymous greek on an online forum about how superior I am
>>73421322
Fort McMurray is where the rest of Canada sends its unemployed.
It isn't a national treasure. And as I ask, no oil infrastructure has been seriously damaged and the fire is now in the middle of nowhere burning nothing of value.
Like I said,
>Greeks
>Education
pick 1
>>73421780
You can't possibly take the bait so many times in a row.
In any case, I understand your intentions are pure with what you think the country's direction should be, but there are certain things you don't understand about the modern Greek state. Aligning with Western Europe may seem like a bad idea to you, but if you experienced Greek business culture and society first-hand, you'd know why we want nothing to do with Eastern Europe.
A Mediterranean Union would be far better, but circumstances in Italy and Spain (let alone France) allows them to be far more selective with their alliances. This is partly why I'm rooting for Turkey to become more Western (>>73415072), which you mocked me for. Turkey, Italy, and to a lesser extent the Balkans, are the only viable allies for Greece.
>pic related, reminder that they are always watching
>>73419106
They have 18 seats in parliament.
>>73388927
>yeah, let me get my trusty M60 and let's kill gommies XDDD
Kek, have you not realized yet that if the country doesn't crash and burn, the stupid faggots will always vote for free gibs? Always, without fucking fail. We need a fucking lesson before we can reject socialism
>>73422800
I can imagine there are a lot of impediments to an alliance with Eastern Europe. These things don't just happen overnight of course.
I just think that with the EU on the verge of collapse, Greece could find itself in a position to choose.
I can't imagine how a Mediterranean Union would work. Three of the most selfish countries that share no borders together? IDK. Just like I think a Balkan Union is no different then the proposed Intermarium, but admittedly I don't know much about intra-Balkan politics or the relations between each of those countries with Greece.
Turkey... will never become properly Westernized and it will never reach a point where a joint alliance with Greece is feasible. People can talk all they like about how Erdogen is not representative of the Turkish people, but at the end of the day he is always reelected and there are no signs he is losing steam.
>>73422800
>I understand your intentions are pure
are you sure YOU aren't taking any bait?
>>73415718
>It's either ND
hmmm, I believe you wrote that trying to be objective.
>he supports ND
>2016
>6 years in the memoranda
>they said YES
>to everything
you are beyond salvation
bonk
>>73424109
>are you sure YOU aren't taking any bait?
How would he be?
Are you buttmad I called your country out for being a failed state full of useless brainwashed filth?
>hmmm, I believe you wrote that trying to be objective.
>you are beyond salvation
Your posts in this thread:
>Alberta
>>73421322
>>73420070
>>73419347
>>73418890
>>73417825
>Hungarian girls
>>73417343
>Russian lies
>>73417045
Putin didn't want to touch Greece with a ten foot pole and Tsipras was never even going to entertain the idea of allying with Russia. He was just trying to play hard to get with the ECB and IMF and it didn't work so he bent over and let Merkel peg him and the rest of Greece.
Seems you're beyond salvation, as you've contributed nothing to the discussion about your nation's future except to perpetuate lies about Tsipras' Russian efforts.
>>73427539
>your country is burning
>Bambie is running off to find shelter
>you are STILL here
>Golden Dawn ape of a leader will save us!
>>73388489
Golden Dawn Greek Government when?
>>73416625
>leventis
>globalist
I doubt that desu, there is a video in youtube back in 2010 saying that he was very much against undocumented migrants and if he was elected he would give them a short period of time to register themselves or he would deport them (kinda similar to Trump). He also said that greeks shouldn't become a minority in our country.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EH4EVSdXdUo
>>73388489
>And no, no. I'm not talking about Golden Dawnfags
>We need to kick out all the communists, stop race mixing, establish a stable work force
So... why are you not talking about golden dawn?
>>73428146
φτάνει
also
>>73428919
h poutsa moy ston kwlo sou?
this too
why not sell us some islands, Hellenic friend?
>tfw visiting greece every summer with 2k in the pocket
>live like a literal king for 21 days
>>73428918
Mostly because they are subhumans who who are paid to protect organized crime leaders(I know it first from a friend of mine who works in a club where they hire them as bodyguards) and they are too stupid to actually have a real plan except "remove kebab"
>>73431097
But aren't they the most prominent group to succeed in a coup? Why not just plant people with good ideas (like OP maybe?) and then proceed to do the proper reforms to get Greece out of the hole.
>>73430038
Why the fuck am I seeing a skull in the middle? Is it the perspective?
>>73431940
I don't think they are preparing themselves for a coup and even if they did it would be fall in a few days.
Also most of the milenians are either too cucked or leftist to support them
>>73393600
Might be a con man, but he's right. I mean his solutions are insane. We need to get rid of the euro as soon as possible and return to our national currencies. After that we need loose monetary and fiscal policy until the recession/depression is over.
As long as the euro exist nothing can change in a meaningful way.
>>73400219
well said my fellow leef, well said. We done here, im moving out at the end of the year.
>>73388489
Tito had a good plan for you. You only had to listen.
